The Commish
Footballguy
Kinda shocking down here GB.
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (16 Viewers)
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Osaurus
Footballguy
No doubt, but we were the youngest ones there easily by 20 years. They were all cheering each other on the way out of the injection room.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
My parents, aunts, uncles, etc. all got the updated booster over the weekend. Seems like a decent rollout. Hoping I avoid COVID until my chance to get it in the next couple of weeks.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Got my booster and flu shots yesterday at CVS. Had an appointment at Rite Aid but when I got there they were like 'Sorry, we didn't get our shipment'. Drove by CVS on the way back home and saw on their sign they were promoting having boosters. Checked with them to confirm they had the updated one and a flu shot and got it as a walk in there. Arm is a bit sore today, but nothing horrible. I know it is somewhat controversial to some people but all I know is I've lost some people that were close to me and it wasn't to the covid vaccine. It was to the actual covid covid. I was vaccinated and boosted at the end of Oct. 2021. When Omicron hit almost everyone around me has had covid at some point including my wife, but I've managed to avoid it unless I was just one of the lucky asymptomatic ones. When she had it I tested regularly that week as I was also helping out getting my father to and from cancer treatments. Regardless, I know the vaccine and booster seems to have helped me out so I'm sticking with what has worked so far. Sign me up for the jab juice.
Meh, don't apologize for getting the booster. It shouldn't be anywhere near controversial at this point to say you got the updated COVID booster.
Doug B
Footballguy
My wife and I went ahead and got the bivalent booster this past Saturday. No appointment necessary, no wait upon arrival to the pharmacy. For convenience, went with Pfizer this time after four Moderna shots.
Our teenagers will be getting it this week, as well.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Got my booster and flu shot Friday morning. Felt pretty good during the day but got tired and went to bed early. Slept horrible, both arms sore and just felt crappy. Woke up Saturday with a headache and just tired. Sat on the couch and watched football all day. Was fine by Sunday.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Got my Moderna bivalent booster at a Target CVS, pre-checked in to my pre-scheduled appt. as I was walking to the counter and I was in and out quickly. Wife and son went to a different pharmacy that had Phizer, this was a walk-in, but they received their shots quickly. They were made to wait for 15 minutes before they could leave.
Both my wife and I had a rough Friday night with fevers. Mine broke by morning, but I was sore and lethargic Saturday and lesser so on Sunday. My wife developed a migraine for several days after the first booster and is having less severe headaches and light sensitivity after this one. Son had no side effects to the primary series and first booster, but had milder side effects to this booster.
Both my wife and I had a rough Friday night with fevers. Mine broke by morning, but I was sore and lethargic Saturday and lesser so on Sunday. My wife developed a migraine for several days after the first booster and is having less severe headaches and light sensitivity after this one. Son had no side effects to the primary series and first booster, but had milder side effects to this booster.
LOL this **** sounds worse than the current version of omicron
Doug B
Footballguy
Varies wildly. You'll hear from people who had noticeable reactions (like in this thread) but won't hear from the greater number who experienced little to nothing after the booster (myself included).
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I don’t know what strain I had of Covid but my four doses combined have been nothing compared to when I had it. Knocked me on my *** for a week.
nirad3
Footballguy
This was exactly my first thought
Osaurus
Footballguy
Same here. Only the initial Pfizer shot made my arm very sore, but it only lasted a day. The other 3 since were very mild to nothing. I wonder if anyone else compares these injections to getting a tetanus shot. Those things hurt. It's why I use it as my pain baseline.
Pipes
Footballguy
Same with me. Combined that with my son getting pretty bad hives on his 3rd shot (1st booster) really has me questioning getting any more shots. I'm certainly not going to rush out to get another one but don't begrudge people that do.
Sorry to hear that but I know dozens of dozens of people that had far milder symptoms of Covid than you and your wife experienced with the latest booster.
Doug B
Footballguy
If you and your son had gotten Moderna shots in the past, you may get a smoother experience from Pfizer boosters. Moderna's boosters have a 50% larger dose than Pfizer's (50 mcg vs. 33 mcg).
One person's account doesn't mean your experience will be the same, but: After four Moderna shots, the after-effects of the Pfizer shot I got this past weekend were smooth sailing. Mild spot soreness at the injection site for maybe 4-6 hours, and I was good to go.
After the first three Moderna shots, by contrast, my entire deltoid flared up like I had been shoulder-pressing a dump truck. Plus I felt like sleeping all the next day.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I was going to go with pfizer for this same reason, but with Moderna so far keeping me covid free (or just luck) I kinda don’t want to mess around.
top dog
Footballguy
Since we are talking side effects vs covid I'll provide some anecdotal evidence from folks I know as well provided in chronological order for each of them...
Me:
1st shot (Moderna) - Arm hurt bad for 3 days, no other side effect
2nd shot (Moderna) - Arm hurt for about a day, not as bad as first shot. Was tired the following day
Booster (Moderna) - Arm sore for about 1/2 day, no other side effects
Booster (Phizer) - Arm sore for about 1/2 day, no other side effects
Covid - have not had as far as I know
Wife:
1st shot (Moderna) - Arm hurt for a couple days, no other side effects
2nd shot (Moderna) - Had chills and fever night of shot, cleared by morning
Covid - Omicron in Dec 2021 (didn't get booster when I did) - Somewhere between a cold and flu. Had 2 days of rough symptoms then got better fast
22 Year old son:
Covid - OG Covid in Nov/Dec 2020 - Basically had a semi-rough cold for 5 days
1st shot (Moderna) - Arm sore for a day or two, No other side effects
2nd shot (Moderna) - No side effects
26 year old son:
covid - OG Covid in Dec 2020 - Cold symptoms for a few days
J&J Shot - had a migrane next day
26 year old daughter-law:
covid - OG Covid in Dec 2020 - Cold symptoms for a few days
1st Shot (Moderna) - No Symptoms
2nd Shot (Moderna) - No Symptoms
4 yr old grandson:
covid - OG Covid - had like a 24 hour flu. Has now developed asthma and had numerous respiratory issues that the doctors have attributed to having have COVID. Not sure how that is all related, etc. but I'll go ahead and trust the Cleveland Clinic here.
50 year old high school friend
No Vaccine. (great shape, gym warrior. Thought he was good)
covid - Omicron dec 2021 - DEAD. I now see updates on FB from his son who is the starting running back for our hometown Highschool team where he dedicates each game to his pops.
Me:
1st shot (Moderna) - Arm hurt bad for 3 days, no other side effect
2nd shot (Moderna) - Arm hurt for about a day, not as bad as first shot. Was tired the following day
Booster (Moderna) - Arm sore for about 1/2 day, no other side effects
Booster (Phizer) - Arm sore for about 1/2 day, no other side effects
Covid - have not had as far as I know
Wife:
1st shot (Moderna) - Arm hurt for a couple days, no other side effects
2nd shot (Moderna) - Had chills and fever night of shot, cleared by morning
Covid - Omicron in Dec 2021 (didn't get booster when I did) - Somewhere between a cold and flu. Had 2 days of rough symptoms then got better fast
22 Year old son:
Covid - OG Covid in Nov/Dec 2020 - Basically had a semi-rough cold for 5 days
1st shot (Moderna) - Arm sore for a day or two, No other side effects
2nd shot (Moderna) - No side effects
26 year old son:
covid - OG Covid in Dec 2020 - Cold symptoms for a few days
J&J Shot - had a migrane next day
26 year old daughter-law:
covid - OG Covid in Dec 2020 - Cold symptoms for a few days
1st Shot (Moderna) - No Symptoms
2nd Shot (Moderna) - No Symptoms
4 yr old grandson:
covid - OG Covid - had like a 24 hour flu. Has now developed asthma and had numerous respiratory issues that the doctors have attributed to having have COVID. Not sure how that is all related, etc. but I'll go ahead and trust the Cleveland Clinic here.
50 year old high school friend
No Vaccine. (great shape, gym warrior. Thought he was good)
covid - Omicron dec 2021 - DEAD. I now see updates on FB from his son who is the starting running back for our hometown Highschool team where he dedicates each game to his pops.
Pipes
Footballguy
Thanks good to know. Moderna all 3 rounds so switching to Pfizer is definitely something we'll look at
belljr
Footballguy
Yep - my son, daughter in law, mom, sister and bil
all had 3 shots - caught some vraiation of omnicron - mom is 70 ok health was probably the worst bad congestion for 5 days. My sister has a heart condition but was only tired for a couple days. Same for the rest of them.
So its just really wild and individually dependent I think. *Assuming you had some form of vaccination
AAABatteries
Footballguy
That was another poster but yeah - I get it. My wife isn’t getting this latest booster.
Doug B
Footballguy
Generally agree with this, and I would have been happy to get a fifth Moderna shot. Going with Pfizer was a matter of convenience -- that's what they had in stock, and I'd have had to either wait some time or else do some legwork to find a Moderna booster.
Doug B
Footballguy
It's not all that different from when some people said (and still say) that "the flu shot gives me the flu!" Free flu shots used to come to the office at my previous job, and quite a few people begged off for that reason.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I had someone tell me this the other day and I wanted to say that's not how this works at all. But just let them say their peace.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Got my flu shot yesterday. Going in for my Pfizer updated booster tomorrow. First 3 shots were all Pfizer. Last one was last November. I had pretty mild reactions to all 3. My wife and kids had stronger reactions. Wife getting her updated Pfizer on Friday. Probably waiting until right before fall break for the kids updated Pfizer.
HFS, just go to the German link and look at the comments. This fool is literally getting his news and his views from some very troubled people.Really? Are ya that brainwashed? Have you not been paying attention? IT NEVER WORKED!!! See Dr. Birx.
During a Fox News appearance on July 22, she told Neil Cavuto that “I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection.
That IS NOT A VACCINE!!!!
You are soon gonna find out how horrible this garbage really is, very possibly wrecking you immune system. It's killing people left and right. But hey, keep injecting yourself with something that never worked. I have been right the whole time and people like icon have been horribly wrong. EVERYONE that has this garbage in them is a ticking timebomb.
Here is what the end result will be. Once they can no longer deny the dangers of this crap, they will blame Trump.
....and you jabbed will be doing this: You will cheer that they blamed trump at the same time you realize that you have this deadly garbage in your system.
The Dems are already starting the turn.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...se-authorizations-house-report-finds-00053428
The Democrats’ investigation also documents White House attempts to block the FDA from collecting additional safety data on Covid-19 vaccines in order to get them to the public before the 2020 presidential election. When Trump runs again in 2024, its a guarantee they roll out the 'It's Trumps fault the 'vaxxes' are killing people.'
England wondering why there is a an sudden increase in excess deaths.
Germany. 1 in 500 permanently disabled or dead from the jabs. Yeah, you read that right.
Germany's largest health insurer reveals 1 in 25 clients underwent medical treatment in 2021 for COVID 'vaccine' side effects, an increase of 3,000%, w/1 in 500 injections expected to cause serious side effects, including permanent disability & death.
https://rairfoundation.com/germanys...tment-in-2021-for-covid-vaccine-side-effects/
I'd love to hear your opinions on the "deep state", the upcoming global currency reset, and especially Comet Ping Pong pizzeria. Thanks in advance.
Some summaries and snippets:
The vaccines are meant for killing and depopulating the world. Hitler is in on Satanism and controlled by a Jewish demon. The World Economic Forum envisions a food system that doesn’t include animal foods or require a large land footprint. In fact, for several years now, the WEF has promoted the idea that we should get used to eating bugs and drinking reclaimed sewage. Both are now being rolled out.
Doug B
Footballguy
(NOTE: Recent figures in the Worldometers graphs can get large adjustments as much as two weeks after they first drop. Accordingly, I've waited ten days to let the last-week Monday (September 5) numbers settle in. They will likely rise slightly by next week's update.)
Updating numbers to see where things have been standing recently from a top-of-the-mountain view. All figures below are 7-day averages from Worldometers U.S. graphs here. In the United States:
CASES ON THU 09/15/2022
Thu 01/13/2022 - 826,760 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Tue 02/01/2022 - 425,029
Thu 02/17/2022 - 116,616
Mon 02/28/2022 - 62,205
Mon 03/14/2022 - 32,900
Sat 04/02/2022 - 27,313 <--2022 LOW
Mon 04/18/2022 - 40,892
Mon 05/02/2022 - 63,279
Mon 05/16/2022 - 100,359
Mon 05/30/2022 - 110,505
Mon 06/13/2022 - 107,785
Mon 06/27/2022 - 113,557
Mon 07/11/2022 - 120,686
Fri 07/15/2022 - 133,047 <-- SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 07/18/2022 - 132,635
Mon 07/25/2022 - 132,235
Mon 08/01/2022 - 125,348
Mon 08/08/2022 - 112,032
Mon 08/15/2022 - 102,411
Mon 08/22/2022 - 93,832
Mon 08/29/2022 - 89,777
Mon 09/05/2022 - 78,896 (Tues 9/6 number was 64,766 on 9/8/2022)
Sun 09/11/2022 - 59,263 <--provisional count
Mon 09/12/2022 - 57,997 <--est provisional count
Tue 09/13/2022 - 56,732 <--provisional count
DEATHS ON THU 09/15/2022
Sun 01/29/2022 - 2,822 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Fri 02/18/2022 - 2,190
Mon 02/28/2022 - 1,740
Mon 03/14/2022 - 1,105
Mon 03/28/2022 - 623
Mon 04/11/2022 - 487
Mon 05/02/2022 - 338
Sat 05/14/2022 - 284 <--2022 LOW
Mon 05/16/2022 - 291
Mon 06/06/2022 - 341
Mon 06/20/2022 - 320
Mon 07/04/2022 - 369
Mon 07/11/2022 - 397
Mon 07/18/2022 - 430
Mon 07/25/2022 - 460
Mon 08/01/2022 - 461
Mon 08/08/2022 - 508
Wed 08/10/2022 - 514 <--SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 08/15/2022 - 493
Mon 08/22/2022 - 468
Mon 08/29/2022 - 447
Sun 09/04/2022 - 401
Mon 09/05/2022 - 378 (estimated, was 312 on 9/8/2022)
Tue 09/06/2022 - 355
Mon 8/12/2022 - 312 <--provisional count
CASES: 7-day average of confirmed COVID cases in the U.S. peaked at 826,760 on 1/13/2022, and was provisionally 78,896 on 9/5/2022. Starting from a peak on July 15, 2022, the 7-day average case numbers have continued to decline for nine weeks now. Signs in the data continue to indicate that the decline is hastening.
DEATHS: 7-day average of confirmed COVID deaths in the U.S. peaked at 2,822 on 1/29/2022, and is estimated at 378 on 9/5/2022. The 7-day average deaths on 8/10/2022 is the new spring/summer high, now adjusted to 514. The decline in deaths continues, though not dropping as quickly as cases. Really watching the Labor Day number and the day after (9/5 & 9/6) to see if they will stay below 400.
For comparison: Low-water marks in the U.S. from summer 2021, 7-day averages after the initial thrust of vaccinations and before summer 2021's Delta surge.
CASES: 12,265 on 6/21/2021
DEATHS: 245 on 7/8/2021
Updating numbers to see where things have been standing recently from a top-of-the-mountain view. All figures below are 7-day averages from Worldometers U.S. graphs here. In the United States:
CASES ON THU 09/15/2022
Thu 01/13/2022 - 826,760 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Tue 02/01/2022 - 425,029
Thu 02/17/2022 - 116,616
Mon 02/28/2022 - 62,205
Mon 03/14/2022 - 32,900
Sat 04/02/2022 - 27,313 <--2022 LOW
Mon 04/18/2022 - 40,892
Mon 05/02/2022 - 63,279
Mon 05/16/2022 - 100,359
Mon 05/30/2022 - 110,505
Mon 06/13/2022 - 107,785
Mon 06/27/2022 - 113,557
Mon 07/11/2022 - 120,686
Fri 07/15/2022 - 133,047 <-- SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 07/18/2022 - 132,635
Mon 07/25/2022 - 132,235
Mon 08/01/2022 - 125,348
Mon 08/08/2022 - 112,032
Mon 08/15/2022 - 102,411
Mon 08/22/2022 - 93,832
Mon 08/29/2022 - 89,777
Mon 09/05/2022 - 78,896 (Tues 9/6 number was 64,766 on 9/8/2022)
Sun 09/11/2022 - 59,263 <--provisional count
Mon 09/12/2022 - 57,997 <--est provisional count
Tue 09/13/2022 - 56,732 <--provisional count
DEATHS ON THU 09/15/2022
Sun 01/29/2022 - 2,822 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Fri 02/18/2022 - 2,190
Mon 02/28/2022 - 1,740
Mon 03/14/2022 - 1,105
Mon 03/28/2022 - 623
Mon 04/11/2022 - 487
Mon 05/02/2022 - 338
Sat 05/14/2022 - 284 <--2022 LOW
Mon 05/16/2022 - 291
Mon 06/06/2022 - 341
Mon 06/20/2022 - 320
Mon 07/04/2022 - 369
Mon 07/11/2022 - 397
Mon 07/18/2022 - 430
Mon 07/25/2022 - 460
Mon 08/01/2022 - 461
Mon 08/08/2022 - 508
Wed 08/10/2022 - 514 <--SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 08/15/2022 - 493
Mon 08/22/2022 - 468
Mon 08/29/2022 - 447
Sun 09/04/2022 - 401
Mon 09/05/2022 - 378 (estimated, was 312 on 9/8/2022)
Tue 09/06/2022 - 355
Mon 8/12/2022 - 312 <--provisional count
CASES: 7-day average of confirmed COVID cases in the U.S. peaked at 826,760 on 1/13/2022, and was provisionally 78,896 on 9/5/2022. Starting from a peak on July 15, 2022, the 7-day average case numbers have continued to decline for nine weeks now. Signs in the data continue to indicate that the decline is hastening.
DEATHS: 7-day average of confirmed COVID deaths in the U.S. peaked at 2,822 on 1/29/2022, and is estimated at 378 on 9/5/2022. The 7-day average deaths on 8/10/2022 is the new spring/summer high, now adjusted to 514. The decline in deaths continues, though not dropping as quickly as cases. Really watching the Labor Day number and the day after (9/5 & 9/6) to see if they will stay below 400.
For comparison: Low-water marks in the U.S. from summer 2021, 7-day averages after the initial thrust of vaccinations and before summer 2021's Delta surge.
CASES: 12,265 on 6/21/2021
DEATHS: 245 on 7/8/2021
Doug B
Footballguy
Surprising language from WHO -- I've always felt they shaded pessimistic:
I'm interested in the drop in worldwide detected cases because it means that COVID is getting progressively fewer flops of the cards to come up with something that can beat out Omicron BA.5. The Worldometers worldwide graphs are bearing out the same thing.
WHO: COVID end ‘in sight,’ deaths at lowest since March 2020 (AP, 9/14/2022)
At a press briefing in Geneva, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the world has never been in a better position to stop COVID-19.
“We are not there yet, but the end is in sight,” he said, comparing the effort to that made by a marathon runner nearing the finish line. “Now is the worst time to stop running,” he said. “Now is the time to run harder and make sure we cross the line and reap all the rewards of our hard work.”
In its weekly report on the pandemic, the U.N. health agency said deaths fell by 22% in the past week, at just over 11,000 reported worldwide. There were 3.1 million new cases, a drop of 28%, continuing a weeks-long decline in the disease in every part of the world.
I'm interested in the drop in worldwide detected cases because it means that COVID is getting progressively fewer flops of the cards to come up with something that can beat out Omicron BA.5. The Worldometers worldwide graphs are bearing out the same thing.
Doug B
Footballguy
Dr. Jetelina starts off pessimistically in her latest Your Local Epidemiologist column -- but once she hones in on why observed data is taking place, it ends up being a more hopeful piece (IMHO). Her overall point is that "We can do something about outcomes if we choose to -- even individually."
High points:
High points:
Vaccination
It’s abundantly clear the majority of deaths continue to be among the unvaccinated (20% of Americans are still without even one dose).
In addition, there is a clear dose response with vaccines: the more vaccine doses one has, the more that person is protected from death. According to the CDC, vaccinated people with one booster had 3 times the risk of dying compared to people vaccinated with two boosters. Unvaccinated people had 14 times the risk of dying compared to those with two boosters. Interestingly, the under- or un-vaccinated are more and more likely to have been infected. So, models are no longer comparing vaccinated people to immune naïve; rather, they are comparing vaccinated (or hybrid immunity) to those with more and more infection-induced immunity. This indirectly highlights a positive effect of vaccines against death compared to infection.
...
Among patients in the ICU and/or ventilators for COVID-19, about half are immunocompromised, have a significant underlying lung disease, or are over the age of 65 years. Also, 5 out of 6 people in the ICU are under- or un-vaccinated. This highlights that it’s essential to stay up to date on vaccines. One of six patients in the ICU is up-to-date on vaccines.
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Regional patterns continue to shift. For example, Florida just passed New York in cumulative deaths. This is a big milestone given NYC’s huge death toll in early 2020.
...
Racial disparities. Interestingly, age-adjusted racial disparities continue to attenuate. I would attribute this to two things: 1) massive community engagement on the ground to reduce disparities; and 2) Black and Hispanic adults were more likely to be in the “wait and see” category for vaccines compared to non-Hispanic Whites adults, who were more likely to be in the “never get vaccinated” group. The Kaiser Family Foundation continues to update their data on deaths over time, and this closing gap is apparent.
...
Political patterns also continue to emerge. The Washington Post posted an article a few days ago highlighting this continued trend. While there is no difference with cases per capita, deaths per capita strikingly separate along partisan lines.
Big League Chew
Footballguy
We are still wearing masks at work .. what a joke org we are
My company just had a HUGE town hall followed by networking event. Hundreds of people. No masks, no vaccine requirements, fully supportive of hybrid work environment. I love the company I work for!
nirad3
Footballguy
I am torn on this latest booster. I had COVID in late July, even after being boosted. It was no big deal, was just tired and a little stuffed up for a day.
I certainly understand those that want to get the current booster but at this point I'm leaning towards just waiting.
I certainly understand those that want to get the current booster but at this point I'm leaning towards just waiting.
top dog
Footballguy
As I stated in some of my previous posts I am a vaccine believer for myself. It seems to be working for me and I'm willing to keep up on the recommended boosters. That being said I don't judge anyone who is reluctant. My wife had her first two shots, didn't get boosted, caught covid during the Omicron surge and hasn't boosted since then. Since she went through Covid without any major issues, it isn't a priority for her to get boosted.
If I had got it in July I'd be in no hurry either to get boosted.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Getting the Bivalent Booster and Flu vaccine this evening.
Wife tomorrow (Daughter not ready for this booster yet as she had her regular booster at the end of June...same with our son).
also updating our TDAP boosters for my wife and I as a relative's pediatrician recommended it anyone who would be around their child get that updated (they will have their first child in about a month).
Wife tomorrow (Daughter not ready for this booster yet as she had her regular booster at the end of June...same with our son).
also updating our TDAP boosters for my wife and I as a relative's pediatrician recommended it anyone who would be around their child get that updated (they will have their first child in about a month).
skol asylum
Footballguy
Got my flu shot on Tuesday and the Bivalent Pfizer booster today. No big deal. I'm a huge believer in vaccines and will continue to get as recommended.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
This was the reason that school was virtual before the vaccines were widespread. Getting a while house infected would inevitably lead to poor outcomes for some and the risk of poor outcomes was very high for some people.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Is this one of those cases where 50-80% higher than .001% is still .001%?
Doug B
Footballguy
Pinky's link does give the study's numbers:
Also, from the study's abstract:
That means that the effects of vaccinations on this cohort are largely absent, since the first ten or eleven months of the medical encounters took place before vaccinations were rolled out. A good portion of the medical encounters must also have taken place before patients received their second shots. And none of the patients were boosted.
Given all of that ... it makes me think that this study mostly reflects what happens, specifically, to an immunologically-naïve population of older people who get COVID. As for vaccinated/boosted folks, there's likely still much to learn.
I'd love to see this research team perform this same analysis starting in June 2021 and going on until the end of this month. And try to tease out the various statuses of vaccination among the patients.
Scoresman
Footballguy
You don't get enough appreciation for the knowledge you constantly drop in this thread. Thank you.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Agreed!!!!
You don't get enough appreciation for the knowledge you constantly drop in this thread. Thank you.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Wife went to get her bivalent booster today. She registered online at CVS, but when she showed up they refused to give it to her because she's under 50.
Instead of arguing, she drove over to the Walgreens, where she got it without any problem.
Instead of arguing, she drove over to the Walgreens, where she got it without any problem.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
One could argue that the reason your symptoms weren’t bad when you got Covid is precisely BECAUSE you were fully boosted at the time.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
And one would be correct. Basically, the entire reason why this was so bad intially was because our body had no knowledge about how to fight it. The vaccines let our bodies respond fast enough that we aren’t getting super sick or getting organ damage.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
All true, but I also think that if @nirad3 had Omicron two months ago, there's no need to rush out and get the bivalent booster. While it was never a smart strategy to rely on infections in place of vaccinations, at this point in the pandemic I think if you happen to get an infection you can view that as essentially the same as if you got boosted.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Yea, I would wait 3 months probably if I was infected.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I still haven’t been infected, but having gotten my second booster in July, I’m thinking of waiting until January. It will really depend on what the caseloads look like. If there’s another big spike, it might make sense to move up the timeline. But assuming rates remain low, I don’t see any reason not to wait
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I would probably wait a bit too, but the data seems pretty clear at this point that vaccinations protect a lot better than immunity from infection.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
For your first shot, absolutely, but I wonder if the same is true for boosters.
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