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Official Dallas Cowboys In Season Thread (1 Viewer)

Any good coach could win a superbowl with this collection of talent.
This disease tends to make the rounds in Washington too, but I think you're overestimating Dallas' talent. They underperform and are inconsistent to be sure, but those WR's and that defensive secondary, and even the LB's outside of Ware are not all that impressive. And Romo is starting to look too mercurial to rely upon in critical situations like playoff games. Just sayin'.
 
Some more on the Romo controvery...this looks plausible.

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Todd Archer/Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips

Cowboys public relations head Rich Dalrymple sent the following e-mail to explain the confusion resulting from Fox 4 video regarding Tony Romo.

"As Tony was walking off the field after the fourth down play, he saw that the down marker on the Dallas sideline read “3.” As it turned out, the marker was in the process of being changed, sequentially, from the number “4” to the number “1” for the Broncos ensuing possession. The marker on the Cowboys side read “3” temporarily. When he saw the “3,” he thought there might have been the possibility of an error on the down count. After asking the officials (holding up three fingers), he then saw the down marker move through the progression from 3 to 2 to 1.

He told the offense it was fourth down in the huddle prior to the last play."

 
It's a tough pill to swallow knowing JJ is making $$ hand over fist with a sub par team on the field. I still think we have pretty good players but the coaching strikes no fear into the team. If they f-up then it's just really not a big deal. No threat of being benched or cut or traded. All the talk of Shanny or Cowher to me is just garbage. Why would any legitimate coach come to Big D to have JJ encroaching on his judgment? With JJ's ego and now the new stadium I doubt he'll ever sell the team. Unless people stop buying tickets we are screwed and that is not going to happen. The Cowboys are the only show in town and so ticket sales will remain strong for the foreseeable future. At least UT runs a competitive program in the NCAA year in and year out. Without the Horns I would be in a heap of hurt. Hook'em Horns!

 
It's a tough pill to swallow knowing JJ is making $$ hand over fist with a sub par team on the field. I still think we have pretty good players but the coaching strikes no fear into the team. If they f-up then it's just really not a big deal. No threat of being benched or cut or traded. All the talk of Shanny or Cowher to me is just garbage. Why would any legitimate coach come to Big D to have JJ encroaching on his judgment? With JJ's ego and now the new stadium I doubt he'll ever sell the team. Unless people stop buying tickets we are screwed and that is not going to happen. The Cowboys are the only show in town and so ticket sales will remain strong for the foreseeable future. At least UT runs a competitive program in the NCAA year in and year out. Without the Horns I would be in a heap of hurt. Hook'em Horns!
I agree with both comments. Jerry Jones is the suck. Parcells had this team going in the right direction with a great young coaching staff but Jerry had to stick his damn ego in between the success of the team and his dumb idea. Went with Owens over Parcells. Great choice. Romo has regressed under Garrett. Sucks to see. Huge Horns fan. Thankfully.
 
More picture fun.

I would put out a $50000 bounty on Manning next time we play him.

BY Eric Kreindler // Friday Oct 2, 2009 at 06:23 CDT

A NBCDFW.COM user forwarded an image purportedly showing Giants' quarterback Eli Manning's victory signature after the team defeated the Cowboys in Arlington on Sept. 20.

"See the picture of a concrete column in the visitor locker room in the new Cowboys stadium," the NBCDFW.com user wrote. "I heard the locker room was spat on and had many used jock straps hanging from the mirrors and other places too. What class."

The Cowboys have not responded to our questions on the authenticity of this message or information about the condition of the visitors' locker room after the Giants 33-31 victory, the first regular season game in the Cowboys new stadium.

We looked around and checked the photo with recent Manning autographs and to the untrained eye, the signature appears to be real, but we know there are many ways to adjust photographs in the digital age.

Anyway, with no real confirmation, it is out there and up to you to decide.

Edit-My link won't work to the picture.

For those on the Zone-check it out there.
If true, then stay classy Giants! It'd be nice to get the DNA samples from that saliva and put a bounty on those players too. My bet is one of them is Mr. Jacobs.
 
It's a tough pill to swallow knowing JJ is making $$ hand over fist with a sub par team on the field. I still think we have pretty good players but the coaching strikes no fear into the team. If they f-up then it's just really not a big deal. No threat of being benched or cut or traded. All the talk of Shanny or Cowher to me is just garbage. Why would any legitimate coach come to Big D to have JJ encroaching on his judgment? With JJ's ego and now the new stadium I doubt he'll ever sell the team. Unless people stop buying tickets we are screwed and that is not going to happen. The Cowboys are the only show in town and so ticket sales will remain strong for the foreseeable future. At least UT runs a competitive program in the NCAA year in and year out. Without the Horns I would be in a heap of hurt. Hook'em Horns!
I agree with both comments. Jerry Jones is the suck. Parcells had this team going in the right direction with a great young coaching staff but Jerry had to stick his damn ego in between the success of the team and his dumb idea. Went with Owens over Parcells. Great choice. Romo has regressed under Garrett. Sucks to see. Huge Horns fan. Thankfully.
Are we really going to play this game? The team is still making the same bonehead mistakes (holding on 1st and goal from 1 etc.) whether Wade Phillips or Bill Parcells is coach. They have had a hard ### coach and soft coach and yet the results are the same. As far as TO vs Parcells, I personally think that having TO was a necessity to aid in Romo's growth and development. Without TO im not sure Romo progresses to anything more then Trent Edwards. TO gave Romo confidence and a lifeline when the defense was coming. Dallas still has as good as chance as any to make the playoffs. I think its incredibly ignorant to say thier eliminated or the season is over because of last second losses to the Giants or Broncos.

 
Routilla said:
It's a tough pill to swallow knowing JJ Snyder is making $$ hand over fist with a sub par team on the field. I still think we have pretty good players but the coaching strikes no fear into the team. If they f-up then it's just really not a big deal. No threat of being benched or cut or traded. All the talk of Shanny or Cowher to me is just garbage. Why would any legitimate coach come to Big D Washington to have JJ Snyder encroaching on his judgment? With JJ Snyder's ego and now the new stadium his relative youth I doubt he'll ever sell the team. Unless people stop buying tickets we are screwed and that is not going to happen. The Cowboys Redskins are the only show in town and so ticket sales will remain strong for the foreseeable future. At least UT the Nats the Wizards the Terps the Orioles aw crap- nevermind runs a competitive program in the NCAA year in and year out. Without the Horns I would be in a heap of hurt. Hook'em Horns!
Fixed. I sure hate commiserating with you wankers, but eerie isn't it?

 
simmonjm said:
Are we really going to play this game? The team is still making the same bonehead mistakes (holding on 1st and goal from 1 etc.) whether Wade Phillips or Bill Parcells is coach. .
Parcells commented after he left that part of the reason for his departure was that he could not reach the team. The boneheaded mistakes, he could not figure out how get them to stop. He could not seem to get through to the team.Was he too old? Too out of touch? Its interesting that he moved "upstairs" at Miami, not back to the sideline. He would never have been able to do that in Dallas. Obviously the mistakes have continued under Wade. Is it because he's too soft? Or is it indemnic to the players?There's no doubt that this team has issues. But would it surprise you to know that 3 of the last 5 NFC champions were 2-2? Not saying that Dallas will do that this year. 7-9 seems more likely. But lets not jump off the cliff just yet either. Some times thing do turn around. Remember Coughlin was about to be run out of NY just as the Giants turned around.
 
simmonjm said:
Are we really going to play this game? The team is still making the same bonehead mistakes (holding on 1st and goal from 1 etc.) whether Wade Phillips or Bill Parcells is coach. .
Parcells commented after he left that part of the reason for his departure was that he could not reach the team. The boneheaded mistakes, he could not figure out how get them to stop. He could not seem to get through to the team.Was he too old? Too out of touch? Its interesting that he moved "upstairs" at Miami, not back to the sideline. He would never have been able to do that in Dallas. Obviously the mistakes have continued under Wade. Is it because he's too soft? Or is it indemnic to the players?There's no doubt that this team has issues. But would it surprise you to know that 3 of the last 5 NFC champions were 2-2? Not saying that Dallas will do that this year. 7-9 seems more likely. But lets not jump off the cliff just yet either. Some times thing do turn around. Remember Coughlin was about to be run out of NY just as the Giants turned around.
Parcells took that job after his wife had cleaned him out in their divorce and he needed a lucrative contract to replenish his finances. It was my impression, and no doubt the impression of at least some of the players, that his interest in coaching wasn't entirely related to passion for the job and that he had only short-term and primarily selfish goals during that head coaching stop. He'd already moved upstairs for a while with the Jets previously, so I think that's the track he wanted to be on by that point anyway. Add to that the fact that JJ has always bypassed the coaching staff and had direct contact with players and you start to see where the lack of accountability to Parcells came from.
 
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Parcells took that job after his wife had cleaned him out in their divorce and he needed a lucrative contract to replenish his finances. It was my impression, and no doubt the impression of at least some of the players, that his interest in coaching wasn't entirely related to passion for the job and that he had only short-term and primarily selfish goals during that head coaching stop. He'd already moved upstairs for a while with the Jets previously, so I think that's the track he wanted to be on by that point anyway. Add to that the fact that JJ has always bypassed the coaching staff and had direct contact with players and you start to see where the lack of accountability to Parcells came from.
I agree with you to a point. Parcells wanted a pay day. But at the same time, a guy like that has WAY too much pride to do something half assed. Parcells wanted to win badly. Just as Jerry does. And Parcells being such a control freak, I doubt he tolerated Jerry doing much going behind his back. He had the chutzpa to tell Jerry where to go if Jerry played those games.Maybe that's why he left. Maybe he was burned out after 4 years of banging his head against the wall. He's claimed that's been his reasons for leaving in the past. Maybe he had enough of Jerry's money. We'll never know the real truth.
 
Thought I'd drop in a few relevant updates from Todd Archer:

Cletis Gordon is getting a crash course in the Cowboys defense and special teams units.

Signed Tuesday, Gordon could be active Sunday at Kansas City with the Cowboys shorthanded because of injuries to safeties Gerald Sensabaugh and Mike Hamlin. Alan Ball will take his work at safety after playing corner since the season began. Wade Phillips said the team did not target a safety because Hamlin is expected back after the bye and Sensabaugh has not been ruled out of Sunday's game.

"I'm familiar with Cletis," said Phillips, who coached him in 2006 in San Diego. "He's a good athlete who may be able to help us at the corner position."

Gordon is familiar with the Cowboys. He lived in Carrollton for a few years before moving to Louisiana.

"The first team I ever saw on TV was the Cowboys," Gordon said. "It's like they're my team since growing up."

Gordon said the terminology is almost the same as he had in San Diego so he does not anticipate a long learning curve.

"Whatever they need," Gordon said. "I'll play receiver if they ask."

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Andre Gurode, Roy Williams and Felix Jones didn't practice today. Neither did safety Gerald Sensabaugh (thumb), linebacker Curtis Johnson (hamstring) and safety Mike Hamlin (wrist).

Interestingly, Wade Phillips did not rule out the chance of Sensabaugh of playing Sunday at Kansas City, but that is highly unlikely.

Phillips wasn't sure if Gurode or Williams would be able to practice on Thursday.

"I can't guess," Phillips said. "I'm just telling you, these guys didn't participate, but we'll see. We haven't ruled [Williams] out."

Running back Marion Barber, left tackle Flozell Adams and linebacker Jason Williams took part in a full practice.

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The theory going around is that Tony Romo has been coached so much about protecting the ball and make sound decisions that it is taking away from his natural playmaking abilities.

If I can steal a Jacques Taylor term for a moment, Wade Phillips believes that's poppycock.

"We're not trying to change him," Phillips said.

Is there a possibility Romo is being too careful?

Sure he could but I don't think he's doing that," Phillips said. "He's working through it and we're working through it. He's not playing terrible but we've got to get him playing on top and one of the top guys in the league which he is."

Phillips doesn't believe Romo will be affected by the swirl of activity regarding last week's fourth-down play at Denver and the video.

"Tony's fine," Phillips said. "He's going to do well because he works so hard at what he does. He's a talented guy that cares. I think he'll do better and better."

 
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Phillips doesn't believe Romo will be affected by the swirl of activity regarding last week's fourth-down play at Denver and the video."Tony's fine," Phillips said. "He's going to do well because he works so hard at what he does. He's a talented guy that cares. I think he'll do better and better."
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It's a tough pill to swallow knowing JJ is making $$ hand over fist with a sub par team on the field. I still think we have pretty good players but the coaching strikes no fear into the team. If they f-up then it's just really not a big deal. No threat of being benched or cut or traded. All the talk of Shanny or Cowher to me is just garbage. Why would any legitimate coach come to Big D to have JJ encroaching on his judgment? With JJ's ego and now the new stadium I doubt he'll ever sell the team. Unless people stop buying tickets we are screwed and that is not going to happen. The Cowboys are the only show in town and so ticket sales will remain strong for the foreseeable future. At least UT runs a competitive program in the NCAA year in and year out. Without the Horns I would be in a heap of hurt. Hook'em Horns!
I agree with both comments. Jerry Jones is the suck. Parcells had this team going in the right direction with a great young coaching staff but Jerry had to stick his damn ego in between the success of the team and his dumb idea. Went with Owens over Parcells. Great choice. Romo has regressed under Garrett. Sucks to see. Huge Horns fan. Thankfully.
Are we really going to play this game? The team is still making the same bonehead mistakes (holding on 1st and goal from 1 etc.) whether Wade Phillips or Bill Parcells is coach. They have had a hard ### coach and soft coach and yet the results are the same. As far as TO vs Parcells, I personally think that having TO was a necessity to aid in Romo's growth and development. Without TO im not sure Romo progresses to anything more then Trent Edwards. TO gave Romo confidence and a lifeline when the defense was coming. Dallas still has as good as chance as any to make the playoffs. I think its incredibly ignorant to say thier eliminated or the season is over because of last second losses to the Giants or Broncos.
I never said they wouldnt make the playoffs. I doubt they will based on their remaining schedule....Yes, I will play that game though. Maybe if Jerry wasnt such an egotistical moron he would have let Parcells move into a management position and kept Sporano as the head coach. I think that was on the horizon.

 
As far as my thoughts go, it seems everybody has the first bullet in their chamber marked for the coaching staff.

Big surprise. The fact that this coaching staff is inept is not new news to anybody around here, as I pointed out in the offseason thread last spring.

This team is what it is. Some carryover, some new. Same old staff outside of Joe DeCamillis.

Their practice facility collapsed on the team during mini-camp, and now their coaching staff is collapsing on them. Poor preparation, poor playcalling, poor decisions. Not enough discipline, not enough accountability. Players on this team have to man-up and and take a lead. So far, Keith Brooking is the only player that I've seen willing to do so. This guy is easily the best addition this team has made this past offseason. In his words, "this thing has to get fixed on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Not on Sunday." He sees it, and it's time for the rest of the team to see it.

As for Romo, he needs to study his 2007 game films. It's been great that he's put in the work to better protect the football, but mix that in with his ability to move around extending the play and find the open receiver. He's tried to turn himself into a disciplined pocket passer but that's not what he is. Being a little on the smallish side behind such a huge line does not fascilitate that. He makes plays outside of the pocket and his career stats clearly point that out. His numbers are actually significantly better from outside of the pocket than in it. I was screaming for this last Sunday but didn't see it until he was flushed out of the pocket in the closing minutes when he hit Hurd that took them down to the red zone. His best play of the day... from outside of the pocket. That's the Romo we need. That's the Romo that set records in 2007 and took the league by storm. Nobody could stop him... but himself. And now he has.

As for Roy Williams. Pure disappointment. He thinks he can play Sunday with his bruised ribs. Wade's not so sure. I say sit his ### and activate Kevin Ogletree. Crayton is what he is, which is fine if they can find somebody on the outside who can get open and make plays. I say the jury is still out on Austin until he and Romo can get on the same page on a consistent basis. Somebody on this receiving corp needs to step up and do something. Sure, Ogletree is an undrafted rookie free agent, but that doesn't mean he's not ready to play on Sundays. I've liked what I've seen and heard about this guy and I say he deserves a chance. What the hell have they got to lose? The Cowboys once had an undrafted rookie free agent WR out of Tulsa that turned out to be pretty good and developed into Roger Staubach's favorite receiver. You might have heard of him. His name was Drew Pearson.

 
Its impressive how quickly everyone has bailed on this team after only 2 losses. Things change fast in the NFL if you remember back to last season I believe Buffalo was 4-0 or 5-0 and look how their season turned out. Way to early to count someone out. Hell even the Panthers have a good shot at winning their next 4 games and getting back to .500

 
Its impressive how quickly everyone has bailed on this team after only 2 losses. Things change fast in the NFL if you remember back to last season I believe Buffalo was 4-0 or 5-0 and look how their season turned out. Way to early to count someone out. Hell even the Panthers have a good shot at winning their next 4 games and getting back to .500
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.

 
Its impressive how quickly everyone has bailed on this team after only 2 losses. Things change fast in the NFL if you remember back to last season I believe Buffalo was 4-0 or 5-0 and look how their season turned out. Way to early to count someone out. Hell even the Panthers have a good shot at winning their next 4 games and getting back to .500
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.
I agree with Ridgelake. Good post. :unsure:

 
Its impressive how quickly everyone has bailed on this team after only 2 losses. Things change fast in the NFL if you remember back to last season I believe Buffalo was 4-0 or 5-0 and look how their season turned out. Way to early to count someone out. Hell even the Panthers have a good shot at winning their next 4 games and getting back to .500
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.
I agree with Ridgelake. Good post. :goodposting:
I'd like to be clear as well that I have NOT packed up my tent on this year. I do have grave concerns but I also can't deny that there is a ton of football left to be played and a lot of talent on this team. Here's hoping.Do or die-I cheer every game regardless of the game or our record.

 
Bankerguy said:
Reacher said:
Andy Herron said:
simmonjm said:
Its impressive how quickly everyone has bailed on this team after only 2 losses. Things change fast in the NFL if you remember back to last season I believe Buffalo was 4-0 or 5-0 and look how their season turned out. Way to early to count someone out. Hell even the Panthers have a good shot at winning their next 4 games and getting back to .500
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.
I agree with Ridgelake. Good post. :lmao:
I'd like to be clear as well that I have NOT packed up my tent on this year. I do have grave concerns but I also can't deny that there is a ton of football left to be played and a lot of talent on this team. Here's hoping.Do or die-I cheer every game regardless of the game or our record.
For as much flak as we take being Cowboys fan I can vouch that the same group of guys is here rooting for the Cowboys year in year out even with all the disappointment we have suffered in the past 5 years.
 
Andy Herron said:
As far as my thoughts go, it seems everybody has the first bullet in their chamber marked for the coaching staff.

Big surprise. The fact that this coaching staff is inept is not new news to anybody around here, as I pointed out in the offseason thread last spring.
Link?
 
Andy Herron said:
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.

Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.
What is your basis for The Eagles can't protect McNabb? McNabb was not sacked in the first game and got hurt whenCarolina's Defensive linemen fell on him in the end zone. Kevin Kolb has been sacked 3 times in the 2+ games he has

played. That's 3 sacks in 3 games for a unit that had turnover in the off-season and did not play together in the preseason. They should only get better as the season progresses.

Not trying to be argumentative, I just don't see the basis for your comment.

 
Andy Herron said:
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.

Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.
What is your basis for The Eagles can't protect McNabb? McNabb was not sacked in the first game and got hurt whenCarolina's Defensive linemen fell on him in the end zone. Kevin Kolb has been sacked 3 times in the 2+ games he has

played. That's 3 sacks in 3 games for a unit that had turnover in the off-season and did not play together in the preseason. They should only get better as the season progresses.

Not trying to be argumentative, I just don't see the basis for your comment.
He may be referring to the broken rib from a few weeks ago. You don't have to get sacked to re-injure that. You can't put him in a vacuum so he's going to have to deal with the pain every week. He has not been hit since the injury so we'll see what happens when he gets that first hard hit, again it doesn't have to be the result of a sack.
 
simmonjm said:
Its impressive how quickly everyone has bailed on this team after only 2 losses. Things change fast in the NFL if you remember back to last season I believe Buffalo was 4-0 or 5-0 and look how their season turned out. Way to early to count someone out. Hell even the Panthers have a good shot at winning their next 4 games and getting back to .500
I've highlighted the games on the schedule that the Cowboys should be favored in for the rest of the season. It's not clear for sure what the SD line would be, but I give the Cowboys the benefit of the doubt here. There will need to be 8 wins on this schedule in the remaining games.

Sun, Oct 11 @ Kansas City (FOX) Noon Travel

Sun, Oct 18 BYE

Sun, Oct 25 ATLANTA (FOX) Sponsored by BANK OF AMERICA 3:15 PM Tickets

Sun, Nov 1 SEATTLE (FOX) NOON Tickets

Sun, Nov 8 @ Philadelphia (NBC) 7:15 PM Travel

Sun, Nov 15 @ Green Bay (FOX) 3:15 PM Travel

Sun, Nov 22 WASHINGTON (FOX) Sponsored by PEPSI NOON Tickets

Thurs, Nov 26 OAKLAND (CBS) 3:15 PM Tickets

Sun, Dec 6 @ New York Giants (FOX) 3:15 PM Travel

Sun, Dec 13 SAN DIEGO (CBS) Sponsored by DR PEPPER 3:15 PM Tickets

Sat, Dec 19 @ New Orleans (NFLN, TXA 21) 7:15 PM Travel

Sun, Dec 27 @ Washington (NBC) 7:15 PM Travel

Sun, Jan 3 PHILADELPHIA (FOX) Sponsored by UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX NOON Tickets

 
Andy Herron said:
Indeed. Only the shallow-minded would turn in their season after only four games.

Likening this season to a NASCAR race, we're still on the lead lap although not running up front at the moment.

It's not like we've crashed and had to be taken to the garage, thus being several laps down.

Cleveland maybe.

Not saying we'll get there, but you can't say we won't either. That's blasphemous.

Eli is questionable for the remainder of the year with his heel/foot.

The Eagles can't protect McNabb, nor can the Packers for Rodgers.

The Vikings will only last as long as Favre does.

There's room for improvement on many fronts for nearly everybody in the NFC, not to mention the entire NFL.

The season is only over for those who choose to close their eyes to it.

The pretenders and contenders won't be sorted out until after Thanksgiving.

It plays out that way every year, which is why Parcells always preached it. And he's right.
What is your basis for The Eagles can't protect McNabb? McNabb was not sacked in the first game and got hurt whenCarolina's Defensive linemen fell on him in the end zone. Kevin Kolb has been sacked 3 times in the 2+ games he has

played. That's 3 sacks in 3 games for a unit that had turnover in the off-season and did not play together in the preseason. They should only get better as the season progresses.

Not trying to be argumentative, I just don't see the basis for your comment.
He may be referring to the broken rib from a few weeks ago. You don't have to get sacked to re-injure that. You can't put him in a vacuum so he's going to have to deal with the pain every week. He has not been hit since the injury so we'll see what happens when he gets that first hard hit, again it doesn't have to be the result of a sack.
Fair enough. The way he said it though, seemed to be an indictment of the Eagles offensive line rather than McNabb's ability to stay healthy. And I don't know yet how the Eagles will do this year on the offensive line or in general. They played two good games against what appear to be bad teams and one bad game against a good team. I don't think we will know where the Eagles are this year until they play three straight against the NFC East in weeks 7, 8, & 9.
 
Practice participation today was pretty much the same as yesterday. Those who didn't practice yesterday didn't participate today either outside of Gurode having limited participation. Felix, Roy, and Sensabaugh did not practice.

Wade said if Roy felt well enough to play Sunday he would, regardless of whether or not he gets any practice in this week.

Sensabaugh is likely out. Felix being out is a given.

Barber is getting better. I expect him to be a full go on Sunday. Good thing.

 
I am having a very hard time on figuring out how good the Cowboys are. On one hand, I feel like they have the potential to be one of the elite teams in the league, and on the other they are just middle of the pack.

It really boils down to Tony Romo. I hate to put it on one player but he's in such a critical position that when he makes a poor decision or play, the entire game changes.

He just hasn't progressed like he should have the past two seasons. He's still making the same poor plays and decisions he made his first season. Back then, you just said he's inexperienced, we'll take the bad with the good and when he gets more experience, this guy's going to be a star because there should be all this good and the bad has been corrected.

The bad hasn't been corrected. In fact, I think he's been more inaccurate this season than I've ever seen him. He's missing guys all the time, he just isn't looking comfortable to me. He's also not moving around and running enough. The guy could scramble and get positive yardage a lot more than what he's doing. It's like he's fighting it and doing something different and what he's doing is just unnatural for him and he looks like crap doing it.

Throw in there that I think the receivers stink. These guys are not getting open and Tony sometimes has nowhere to throw the ball. These slow mediocre receivers are not making his job any easier, throw in the problems I mentioned above and you have an ugly passing game.

The run game is OK, but it's a bit too inconsistent. They look great running the ball at times, but when it counts, somtimes they either abandon it or don't get what they need. I'm tired of giving the other teams too much credit. I don't care if Denver has a good defense, we were up 10-0 and then did nothing. It was so ugly to watch, I felt like chewing off my hand watching it.

D. Ware for whatever reason is not the same player as last year. Yes, he's caused some Qb's to move around a bit and maybe run into another Cowboy, but come on. Dominant defensive players have ALWAYS found a way to get theres and he's not doing it.

I think T. Newman can be overrated at times, but for the most part I think he's played solid so far this season. Yes, I saw the Brandon Marshall play. Jenkins has played OK, better than last year IMO. Our noseguard is the best defensive player on the team, the only guy I'd call dominant.

I think they finish 9-7 with a lot of close wins and losses.

 
Practice participation today was pretty much the same as yesterday. Those who didn't practice yesterday didn't participate today either outside of Gurode having limited participation. Felix, Roy, and Sensabaugh did not practice.

Wade said if Roy felt well enough to play Sunday he would, regardless of whether or not he gets any practice in this week.

Sensabaugh is likely out. Felix being out is a given.

Barber is getting better. I expect him to be a full go on Sunday. Good thing.
Is this one of those 'it couldn't be more clear' moments (again)?
 
At 2-2 with the Giants at 4-0 and a win over Dallas we are actually 3 games out already. With how weak some of the other divisions are in the NFC it's risky that even 9-10 wins gets us in as a WC not to mention the loss of home field.

Another site suggests that Bigg Davis has gotten old and slow and actually looks worse than Flozell this year. Has anyone studied our OL in that much detail?

It was also suggested that Roy is infact a solid receiver he is just mis-cast in this type of offense. He is more of a West Coast type while we need a guy who can get open quickly out of his break.

I hope Miles steps up and breaks out this week ... could be his best chance to shine.

 
I am having a very hard time on figuring out how good the Cowboys are. On one hand, I feel like they have the potential to be one of the elite teams in the league, and on the other they are just middle of the pack.It really boils down to Tony Romo. I hate to put it on one player but he's in such a critical position that when he makes a poor decision or play, the entire game changes.He just hasn't progressed like he should have the past two seasons. He's still making the same poor plays and decisions he made his first season. Back then, you just said he's inexperienced, we'll take the bad with the good and when he gets more experience, this guy's going to be a star because there should be all this good and the bad has been corrected.The bad hasn't been corrected. In fact, I think he's been more inaccurate this season than I've ever seen him. He's missing guys all the time, he just isn't looking comfortable to me. He's also not moving around and running enough. The guy could scramble and get positive yardage a lot more than what he's doing. It's like he's fighting it and doing something different and what he's doing is just unnatural for him and he looks like crap doing it.Throw in there that I think the receivers stink. These guys are not getting open and Tony sometimes has nowhere to throw the ball. These slow mediocre receivers are not making his job any easier, throw in the problems I mentioned above and you have an ugly passing game.The run game is OK, but it's a bit too inconsistent. They look great running the ball at times, but when it counts, somtimes they either abandon it or don't get what they need. I'm tired of giving the other teams too much credit. I don't care if Denver has a good defense, we were up 10-0 and then did nothing. It was so ugly to watch, I felt like chewing off my hand watching it.D. Ware for whatever reason is not the same player as last year. Yes, he's caused some Qb's to move around a bit and maybe run into another Cowboy, but come on. Dominant defensive players have ALWAYS found a way to get theres and he's not doing it.I think T. Newman can be overrated at times, but for the most part I think he's played solid so far this season. Yes, I saw the Brandon Marshall play. Jenkins has played OK, better than last year IMO. Our noseguard is the best defensive player on the team, the only guy I'd call dominant.I think they finish 9-7 with a lot of close wins and losses.
:whistle:I agree with pretty much everything you have to say, especially the part about Romo not playing his style. It clearly looks like he's not playing natural. Also agree how the running game is doing well, but not when we need it.As far as Ware goes, he needs help from Spencer. I see Ware getting blocked by two guys, and getting chipped by a third a lot. If he is drawing two, and sometimes three defenders, Anthony Spencer needs to get his ### in there. I'm missing Gregg Ellis now. Not his whiny attitude, but his pressure, even with a bad wheel. I have also been pleased with Jenkins. The play where he didn't even try to make a tackle (on Ward?) in the Giants game last year scared me to death. This year he has been aggressive and sticks his nose in there. I don't think he will ever stick guys like Newman can sometimes, but he has shown a willingness to tackle. For the 2,123,692 time, Barbie Carpenter needs to go. The only time I ever see him is when he is getting pushed around or when he arrives after the tackle has already been made.
 
Any good coach could win a superbowl with this collection of talent.
This disease tends to make the rounds in Washington too, but I think you're overestimating Dallas' talent. They underperform and are inconsistent to be sure, but those WR's and that defensive secondary, and even the LB's outside of Ware are not all that impressive. And Romo is starting to look too mercurial to rely upon in critical situations like playoff games. Just sayin'.
I'm pretty sure you are underrating the secondary. A couple of the players are young, but they look like they'll be good as they develop.WRs are horrible, including Roy who should just be moved to TE, and be the third stringer.

Romo was a UFA, right? He's a gamer, reminds me of Doug Flutie in a lot of ways... and that's what you'll get from him, a few big plays, but lots of silly stuff too.

That said, they have a very solid OL, very good RBs, and if they played right, they'd be 4-0. I think their draft this year was foolish, they don't have enough talent to draft depth. Every draft should be looking for starters, or potential starters. You don't draft looking for guys you don't want to have to play... that's idiotic. So next year, they'll be in a worse situation than this. I'm not a Jerry hater, but I do think he's made some bad decisions based on personal feelings, and needs to be more cold and calculated. Phillips and Garrett are not what they were thought to be (what were they thought to be?) and they need to get rid of them. Bring in Shanahan, especially with this trio of runners and Romo. Force him to hire a very good DC since he sucks defensively. Find a good GM or at least someone to run the draft and scouting department and make personnel decisions.

 
Any good coach could win a superbowl with this collection of talent.
This disease tends to make the rounds in Washington too, but I think you're overestimating Dallas' talent. They underperform and are inconsistent to be sure, but those WR's and that defensive secondary, and even the LB's outside of Ware are not all that impressive. And Romo is starting to look too mercurial to rely upon in critical situations like playoff games. Just sayin'.
I'm pretty sure you are underrating the secondary. A couple of the players are young, but they look like they'll be good as they develop.WRs are horrible, including Roy who should just be moved to TE, and be the third stringer.

Romo was a UFA, right? He's a gamer, reminds me of Doug Flutie in a lot of ways... and that's what you'll get from him, a few big plays, but lots of silly stuff too.

That said, they have a very solid OL, very good RBs, and if they played right, they'd be 4-0. I think their draft this year was foolish, they don't have enough talent to draft depth. Every draft should be looking for starters, or potential starters. You don't draft looking for guys you don't want to have to play... that's idiotic. So next year, they'll be in a worse situation than this. I'm not a Jerry hater, but I do think he's made some bad decisions based on personal feelings, and needs to be more cold and calculated. Phillips and Garrett are not what they were thought to be (what were they thought to be?) and they need to get rid of them. Bring in Shanahan, especially with this trio of runners and Romo. Force him to hire a very good DC since he sucks defensively. Find a good GM or at least someone to run the draft and scouting department and make personnel decisions.
That's the main thing that needs to happen and Jerry is never going to give that up (in my opinion).
 
dhockster said:
switz said:
Any good coach could win a superbowl with this collection of talent.
This disease tends to make the rounds in Washington too, but I think you're overestimating Dallas' talent. They underperform and are inconsistent to be sure, but those WR's and that defensive secondary, and even the LB's outside of Ware are not all that impressive. And Romo is starting to look too mercurial to rely upon in critical situations like playoff games. Just sayin'.
I'm pretty sure you are underrating the secondary. A couple of the players are young, but they look like they'll be good as they develop.WRs are horrible, including Roy who should just be moved to TE, and be the third stringer.

Romo was a UFA, right? He's a gamer, reminds me of Doug Flutie in a lot of ways... and that's what you'll get from him, a few big plays, but lots of silly stuff too.

That said, they have a very solid OL, very good RBs, and if they played right, they'd be 4-0. I think their draft this year was foolish, they don't have enough talent to draft depth. Every draft should be looking for starters, or potential starters. You don't draft looking for guys you don't want to have to play... that's idiotic. So next year, they'll be in a worse situation than this. I'm not a Jerry hater, but I do think he's made some bad decisions based on personal feelings, and needs to be more cold and calculated. Phillips and Garrett are not what they were thought to be (what were they thought to be?) and they need to get rid of them. Bring in Shanahan, especially with this trio of runners and Romo. Force him to hire a very good DC since he sucks defensively. Find a good GM or at least someone to run the draft and scouting department and make personnel decisions.
That's the main thing that needs to happen and Jerry is never going to give that up (in my opinion).
Actually Jerry has said he will never give this up.
 
Yes, Jerry has said he isnt going to give up control of the Cowboys. Or put another way, he' s said he's got to be involved, that he's always been active in everything he owns.

Jerry gets a lot of grief for his job as GM. But the overall talent level on the team is above average. Does every move they make work out? Absolutely not. Does any team have every move work out? Absolutely not. You have to judge by the totality of the body of work. And most educated neutral observers would say that the talent level on the team is better than most.

I personally give Jerry a lot of credit for his draft day manuveuring. He's one of the best in the business at moving up and down to maximize value.

Its hard to argue that he isnt very good at marketing the team and the NFL. He's been a leader among the owners on broadening the league's revenue base.

Where I think Jerry gets himself into trouble is undermining the authority of his coaches. Thats the element where his involvement seems to really hurt the team. Unless and until the team wins playoff and superbowls again, this element will always provide ammunition to his detractors. And probably justifiably so.

 
Yes, Jerry has said he isnt going to give up control of the Cowboys. Or put another way, he' s said he's got to be involved, that he's always been active in everything he owns.Jerry gets a lot of grief for his job as GM. But the overall talent level on the team is above average. Does every move they make work out? Absolutely not. Does any team have every move work out? Absolutely not. You have to judge by the totality of the body of work. And most educated neutral observers would say that the talent level on the team is better than most.I personally give Jerry a lot of credit for his draft day manuveuring. He's one of the best in the business at moving up and down to maximize value. Its hard to argue that he isnt very good at marketing the team and the NFL. He's been a leader among the owners on broadening the league's revenue base.Where I think Jerry gets himself into trouble is undermining the authority of his coaches. Thats the element where his involvement seems to really hurt the team. Unless and until the team wins playoff and superbowls again, this element will always provide ammunition to his detractors. And probably justifiably so.
Many good points here. He does come with negatives though too:He strips his staff of any really authority or voice. Players are smart know this too. Jerry makes the calls and is the show which oftern times puts Football on the back burner and ultimately a dysfunction operation.His drafting is getting better for sure, his recent trade for Roy and then release of TO did not make sense to me (In hindsight).
 
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Yes, Jerry has said he isnt going to give up control of the Cowboys. Or put another way, he' s said he's got to be involved, that he's always been active in everything he owns.

Jerry gets a lot of grief for his job as GM. But the overall talent level on the team is above average. Does every move they make work out? Absolutely not. Does any team have every move work out? Absolutely not. You have to judge by the totality of the body of work. And most educated neutral observers would say that the talent level on the team is better than most.

I personally give Jerry a lot of credit for his draft day manuveuring. He's one of the best in the business at moving up and down to maximize value.

Its hard to argue that he isnt very good at marketing the team and the NFL. He's been a leader among the owners on broadening the league's revenue base.

Where I think Jerry gets himself into trouble is undermining the authority of his coaches. Thats the element where his involvement seems to really hurt the team. Unless and until the team wins playoff and superbowls again, this element will always provide ammunition to his detractors. And probably justifiably so.
Many good points here. He does come with negatives though too:

He strips his staff of any really authority or voice. Players are smart know this too.

Jerry makes the calls and is the show which oftern times puts Football on the back burner and ultimately a dysfunction operation.

His drafting is getting better for sure, his recent trade for Roy and then release of TO did not make sense to me (In hindsight).
:) What didnt make sense about it? TO had lost a step and all of a sudden all of the bickering after games about personal stats was no longer outweighed by his talent. Roy Williams was brought in for two purposes, one to give a boost to a sputtering offense and to eventually replace TO.

 
Yes, Jerry has said he isnt going to give up control of the Cowboys. Or put another way, he' s said he's got to be involved, that he's always been active in everything he owns.

Jerry gets a lot of grief for his job as GM. But the overall talent level on the team is above average. Does every move they make work out? Absolutely not. Does any team have every move work out? Absolutely not. You have to judge by the totality of the body of work. And most educated neutral observers would say that the talent level on the team is better than most.

I personally give Jerry a lot of credit for his draft day manuveuring. He's one of the best in the business at moving up and down to maximize value.

Its hard to argue that he isnt very good at marketing the team and the NFL. He's been a leader among the owners on broadening the league's revenue base.

Where I think Jerry gets himself into trouble is undermining the authority of his coaches. Thats the element where his involvement seems to really hurt the team. Unless and until the team wins playoff and superbowls again, this element will always provide ammunition to his detractors. And probably justifiably so.
Many good points here. He does come with negatives though too:

He strips his staff of any really authority or voice. Players are smart know this too.

Jerry makes the calls and is the show which oftern times puts Football on the back burner and ultimately a dysfunction operation.

His drafting is getting better for sure, his recent trade for Roy and then release of TO did not make sense to me (In hindsight).
:P What didnt make sense about it? TO had lost a step and all of a sudden all of the bickering after games about personal stats was no longer outweighed by his talent. Roy Williams was brought in for two purposes, one to give a boost to a sputtering offense and to eventually replace TO.
I have no problem with the TO release-it was time.I guess I saw Roy (when he was originally brought in) as a compliment to Owens. Not a replacement. I thought we were loading up for a run at a SB. It doesn't apear that way now. I would rather have kept the picks tried to sign a FA or take one in early in the draft. We gave up too much for a bad decision.

Maybe it's just me :lmao:

 
Had the Cowboys drafted Maclin, Harvin, Nicks, or even Massquio or another WR from this season they' likely be our best receiver. I really hope Miles steps up tomorrow it's now or bust for him I fear.

That said, living in KC I'm hearing A LOT of national experts being interviewed picking the Chiefs to win outright. It's a road game for Dallas ... it'll be a closer game given the Cowboys lack of offense offsetting the Chiefs defensive woes ... and enough chances for mistakes, bad play, and the Romo factor for the Chiefs to stay close and maybe pull it out. In many ways this compares to the Rams game last season.

 
Ridgelake said:
Yes, Jerry has said he isnt going to give up control of the Cowboys. Or put another way, he' s said he's got to be involved, that he's always been active in everything he owns.

Jerry gets a lot of grief for his job as GM. But the overall talent level on the team is above average. Does every move they make work out? Absolutely not. Does any team have every move work out? Absolutely not. You have to judge by the totality of the body of work. And most educated neutral observers would say that the talent level on the team is better than most.

I personally give Jerry a lot of credit for his draft day manuveuring. He's one of the best in the business at moving up and down to maximize value.

Its hard to argue that he isnt very good at marketing the team and the NFL. He's been a leader among the owners on broadening the league's revenue base.

Where I think Jerry gets himself into trouble is undermining the authority of his coaches. Thats the element where his involvement seems to really hurt the team. Unless and until the team wins playoff and superbowls again, this element will always provide ammunition to his detractors. And probably justifiably so.
it all goes back to one thing: running Jimmy Johnson out of town, thinking it didnt matter what coach he had, and bringing in Barry Switzer. ;) as for the '09 version of the Cowboys, i dont see them being much above average. they could get hot, but i see the same old stuff. this is not a very disciplined team. the odds are stacked against them, but this is the NFL, everything can change in a week.

as of right now, i think bailing on TO was the right decision. giving up what we did to get Roy, not so much.

another concern i have is the aging O-line. not much behind the starters.

 
Count me in the camp that likes the Roy Williams addition. In hindsight, I wish we would have gotten Bolden for less.

However, I think Roy is very talented, and just needs more throws his way. I'm worried about Romo and locking onto Witten all day long and not paying enough attention to his rec's.

Also, and I said it before, I'm thoroughly impressed and love Roy's run blocking.

Wish we drafted Percy Harvin, big fan.

 
The Cowboys made a roster move yesterday, bringing back RB Chauncey Washington and signing him to the roster again. They had cut him after the Denver game last week. This time around, it was backup center Duke Preston getting the axe to make room for Washington.

 
We win a tight game today. I predict the Chiefs give us a scare and likely lead until late in the 3rd Quarter. Our pair of TE's make the late difference and we win 21-17.

 
Count me in the camp that likes the Roy Williams addition. In hindsight, I wish we would have gotten Bolden for less.However, I think Roy is very talented, and just needs more throws his way. I'm worried about Romo and locking onto Witten all day long and not paying enough attention to his rec's. Also, and I said it before, I'm thoroughly impressed and love Roy's run blocking. Wish we drafted Percy Harvin, big fan.
agreed on Roy's blocking. and yes, Harvin looks like a real weapon.Roy just doesnt seem to get much separation from defenders. maybe Romo needs to just throw it up for him. i dont know? i'm really starting to believe this guy cant be a true #1 WR. can he be an important part of this offense? Yes. is he gonna be the go-to? doesnt look like it so far.the reality is, this group of WR's is a committee. along with Witten and Bennett, the overall group can be pretty decent. guys just need to step up and get it done.
 
It would appear that Tony Romo is anxious to get this game underway and begin moving forward from his lackluster performances of the last two weeks.

On road games, there are two buses that transport the players from their hotel to the stadium. An early bus, and then a later bus. Romo is usually a second bus guy, but not today. Today he was on the first bus. Not big news, but nonetheless interesting.

I'll be anxious myself to see if a full week's worth of work with Austin in RW's spot pays dividends. He and Romo desperately need to get on the same page for Austin to reach his full potential. I'll also be anxious to see if Ogletree gets in on any plays today. I'll be sorely disappointed if he doesn't get at least a handful of plays. I honestly believe he's prepared to bring at least a little something to this offense. I'm also patiently waiting for them to utilize Martellus Bennett more.

 
we having fun yet?
If Jason Garret continues to play a hurt Barber over a healthy Tashard Choice then he needs to be taken out and shot. Oh and Austin better be the starter after the Bye week. Glad we got the win but I thought it was a very hard game to watch. It was nice to see a WR step up for a change.
 
we having fun yet?
If Jason Garret continues to play a hurt Barber over a healthy Tashard Choice then he needs to be taken out and shot. Oh and Austin better be the starter after the Bye week. Glad we got the win but I thought it was a very hard game to watch. It was nice to see a WR step up for a change.
I agree, I dont get the coaching staff. Barber was obviously not himself, especially after halftime.....Crazy... Its not like Choice is some 3rd string scrub.....
 
for a brief moment I thought we had seen the end of the wade era. Would have been a good time to fire him. It's inevitable now at this point. Might as well have gotten it over before the bye.

 
i wanna say one thing: that F'in penalty on Alan Ball for helmet to helmet was the biggest bunch of BS i've ever seen!!!! this is F'in football LET THEM PLAY THE F'IN GAME!!!!!!!

 
for a brief moment I thought we had seen the end of the wade era. Would have been a good time to fire him. It's inevitable now at this point. Might as well have gotten it over before the bye.
Dallas will go on to have a nice season from here. They'll come off the bye healthy. Romo won't have the game in his head so much after the relaxation and laughs he's entitled to for the next couple weeks. This team...Will Win A Playoff Game. :shrug:
 

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