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I Googled this and it translates to "I'm so small a virgin toad is sloppy".  Please explain how this has helped you.
you won't know 'til you've deflowered an amphibian....

seriously, the object is to crowd other thoughts, impulses, brood or rage cycles out of one's head with directed thinking. that i decided to trust a culture (i don't chant for stuff like many do, but i've been chanting to focus my concentration since i saw it in the Jack Nicholson movie "The Last Detail" 40 yrs ago) that has been experimenting with the manipulation of body energy for 2000 yrs is a personal choice and i freely stipulate  to it being entirely possible that chanting "Tuesday consecutive breakfast" could work as well.

 
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I take it by no posts since July that people are good? 

Well, I am out of it today. I forgot to call in my prescription for my Limactil and Prozac on Thursday and havent taken any since Thursday morning. Just realized it last night. So everything is back full force (Racing thoughts, anxiety, no focus, etc.). My pharmacy is open today so I hope I can get it refilled today otherwise it will be Monday.

I will be OK, just will be a rollercoaster weekend if I can't get them until Monday
How is the Lamictal-free weekend going, Mojo?

 
I take it by no posts since July that people are good? 

Well, I am out of it today. I forgot to call in my prescription for my Limactil and Prozac on Thursday and havent taken any since Thursday morning. Just realized it last night. So everything is back full force (Racing thoughts, anxiety, no focus, etc.). My pharmacy is open today so I hope I can get it refilled today otherwise it will be Monday.

I will be OK, just will be a rollercoaster weekend if I can't get them until Monday
Is your pharmacy online to where you can set it to auto refills? Walgreens is what I use. 24/7/365 with a drive through.

Hope you feel better soon. Xx

 
Is your pharmacy online to where you can set it to auto refills? Walgreens is what I use. 24/7/365 with a drive through.

Hope you feel better soon. Xx
Much better now. And I go to a local pharmacy. Closed mostly on the weekends, but it is worth the  great service and the prices are comparable. 

 
Much better now. And I go to a local pharmacy. Closed mostly on the weekends, but it is worth the  great service and the prices are comparable. 
In case you don't know, sometimes you can find meds much cheaper on goodrx.com, even cheaper than insurance. 

Glad you're feeling better.

 
Oh no, that article really is sad.  Do you know where you'll go?  I'm glad to hear that you know this will all pass and that you're looking forward to a better week.
Don't know yet. I do have an apartment I can go to, but it is a last resort. I am looking

 
I've started reading a book by Dr. Robert Lustig entitled The Hacking of the American Mind.  The premise being that pleasure and happiness are two different scientific, biological functions and that both have been hacked.  Not necessarily with evil in mind, but rather by profit.  Why is obesity, addiction and depression on the rise when we have made so many advancements in science and technology.  Lustig attempts to answer those questions.  I haven't read the whole book but I know the basic outline from watching him give a few talks about this topic.  I find it very fascinating and wanted to post a link here to the thread I started in the PSF (I outline there why I started it in that forum).  I realize some of the FFA folks don't like to wander in to that forum (understandably) but that thread has been a good discussion so far.

Note: I'm not a medical professional on any level and I'm not even endorsing this book yet as I haven't read it fully - but what I've read so far makes sense and his arguments are persuasive IMO.  I'm hoping that any of you who may be struggling can find some nuggets that are helpful to you.

 
I've started reading a book by Dr. Robert Lustig entitled The Hacking of the American Mind.  The premise being that pleasure and happiness are two different scientific, biological functions and that both have been hacked.  Not necessarily with evil in mind, but rather by profit.  Why is obesity, addiction and depression on the rise when we have made so many advancements in science and technology.  Lustig attempts to answer those questions.  I haven't read the whole book but I know the basic outline from watching him give a few talks about this topic.  I find it very fascinating and wanted to post a link here to the thread I started in the PSF (I outline there why I started it in that forum).  I realize some of the FFA folks don't like to wander in to that forum (understandably) but that thread has been a good discussion so far.

Note: I'm not a medical professional on any level and I'm not even endorsing this book yet as I haven't read it fully - but what I've read so far makes sense and his arguments are persuasive IMO.  I'm hoping that any of you who may be struggling can find some nuggets that are helpful to you.
While i dont believe that one can bring their life entirely under control by managing their endorphin/cortisol/dopamine/serotonin hierarchies (just as i don't excuse destructive behavior solely on that basis), knowing the effect of those cycles really do show how one has to learn to drive the car of their endocrinology to live optimally. 

Look where improvising has gotten us, folks. One hundred years ago, we were all living under very similar expectations and pretty specific codes of life and conduct and, though i'm as glad as anyone that those constraints have been cast away in the name of personal liberty, that doesn't mean that making it up as you go along is the optimum strategy for life within yourself or with others. One must understand health, balance and exercise in their minds just as well as they do in their bodies to get this all right. Some science is starting to come in on this and those who ignore it are playing themselves for suckers and we all suffer when that happens.

 
Crazy this thread popping back up...I almost went looking for it again.  Have two things I wanted to discuss:

First off, I wanted to warn those of us with proclivities to depression to keep doing what helps you, even when things seem to be going fine.  Work has become relentlessly stressful for several months now and it has taken a toll.  I've started having thoughts of wanting to die from time to time.  I've stopped working out, eat poorly, drink more and sleep less.  If it wasn't for my medication and officiating football games, I'd probably be in a very dark place right now. Luckily, there is also a light at the end of the tunnel for me at work, but I'll have at least 3 more weeks of stress.  I feel like I've learned a lot and can cope without spinning further.  I have talked with my wife and she is checking on me daily.  I am making a conscious effort to eat healthier and am committing to actually working out 2 times/week.

Secondly, I'd like some advice.  I'm thinking about letting my boss know what has been going on with me and curious to know what everyone thinks.  My work has slipped and he has noticed.  I'm keeping my head above water, but I was doing really well before this.  I think he already understands and isn't blaming me because I inherited a mess, but he also assigned another guy to help me keep up.  I'm afraid it will start to become an issue if I can't get more done than I am currently capable of.  I just don't have the mental capacity to work anymore long nights or weekends.  Anytime I do it is like one step forward and two steps back.  He is a good guy and seems understanding, but I'm not sure what his take on depression is.  A lot of people just don't get it and I'm afraid he'll see me as incapable or a liability.  I'm leaning toward simply getting through this stage and hoping turning things around in a couple of months, but I don't want to get some kind of poor review or worse and then either just let them think I suck or make it look like I'm using depression as an excuse after the fact.  This also coincides with the timing of me officiating football and I'm also afraid they may see that as the reason for my struggles and either ask me to quit or hold it against me.

 
While i dont believe that one can bring their life entirely under control by managing their endorphin/cortisol/dopamine/serotonin hierarchies (just as i don't excuse destructive behavior solely on that basis), knowing the effect of those cycles really do show how one has to learn to drive the car of their endocrinology to live optimally. 
The portion of depression that is chemical seems to be, like so many other areas, a grey area with a sliding scale dependent on the person.

I know what I was like without the SSRI I'm taking, and my emotions ran up and down like a damn pinball game.  Now, even though the thoughts of sadness still creep in, I don't fly off the handle like I used to.  Also, the suicidal thoughts are much less and more subdued when present.  They are more like passing thoughts than actual considerations.  So there is definitely a space where if things were bad enough, I could still bottom out while on medication, but I'm less likely when taking it.

Curious to know others thoughts.  Did medication save you?  Does it seem to have no effect?  Somewhere in between?

 
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The portion of depression that is chemical seems to be, like so many other areas, a grey area with a sliding scale dependent on the person.

I know what I was like without the SSRI I'm taking, and my emotions ran up and down like a damn pinball game.  Now, even though the thoughts of sadness still creep in, I don't fly off the handle like I used to.  Also, the suicidal thoughts are much less and more subdued when present.  They are more like passing thoughts than actual considerations.  So there is definitely a space where if things were bad enough, I could still bottom out while on medication, but I'm less likely when taking it.

Curious to know others thoughts.  Did medication save you?  Does it seem to have no effect?  Somewhere in between?
Medications for life are needed for some. The problem is some people are told you can do without by some docs or Dr Oz and they go off and it's worse. Depression is difficult and different for everyone. The old think positive, exercise, get out, diet etc does help many good enough or completely but not everyone. Some must be on meds for life and there is nothing wrong with that. 

So if the meds are working for you, why mess with it? I understand we'd all like to not pop any pills, I hate the ones I have to pop as they give me ####ty side effects, but I'm banking on that they're working to keep me going longer. 

I've told this story before back when I was helping my cousin who was living with me. Fam shunned her because mental illness doesn't happen in our fam. Anxiety and depression are solved not by meds words. So I took her in. One time she thought she's fine now and without telling me, went off her meds. It was a scary mess. She tried killing herself at one point and I had to 5150 her. It wasn't enough to have her restart the meds. She was miserable for a long while. It's easy to go down but difficult to climb out of. She's fine now but man was that a mistake. She takes her meds daily and is never going off. Why should she? Side effects aren't bad. She's functioning well in her life now. She's been through cognitive behavioral therapy so she's aware of her thoughts. My thought is this. You try everything first. If it's not working, meds. Life is way too short to be in mental pain.

As for telling your boss, I'd start not with your whole diagnosis speel since unfortunately there are still many people out there despite all this mental awareness stuff who don't get it. Thank him for getting someone to help you, that you are having a hard time right now (ie, for the next 3 weeks) and you are doing the best that you can. If he's a good boss he'll appreciate your words and letting him know you are in a tough spot right now and that you appreciate the help that is coming. Take it 1 day at a time and just do your best. That's all you can do, anyone really. 

Best wishes xxx

 
First post here. I really don't know what I'm doing but I just need to type some #### out. I think it's time I went and talked to a professional.

I just had a wonderful Thanksgiving day with family and friends, yet I'm sitting here crying. My wife and I just had a disagreement and my gut reaction was to say "I'm not happy"

I'm not.

I love my wife and children. I hate my job. Ultimately I'm not "not happy" because of my job. No one likes their job. I think that's just my excuse. That's what I tell my wife, She was crying and asking what she could do. She can't do anything more. She is the ultimate mother to our kids. I'm the #######.

I don't know what I'm typing. It just helps to get it out I think.  I think I'll find out in the morning

 
'Fish is right, stryker. Dead ends require no more than a turnaround, but way too many folk stay stuck and begin to wither. You dont want that.

One usually has to get wife & fam on board for a big change, so think it out, go to em once you have and see if you can make a change. Either a new gig, new direction, new career, go to Saskatchewan and rough it, whatever. If you really cant change your circumstance, you'll have to work on your ability to cope. That's doable, too.

The human organism and psyche is remarkably flexible & pliable if properly conducted. We'll help you with it if it comes to that. The key right now is to proceed without panic. There is a one-step-in-front-of-the-other solution for almost all of life's problems. Move with good & even pace, holla if you need a hand and good luck.

 
I had typed a bunch of stuff out to post in this thread over the summer, I put it in a word document with the thought of sharing it, but I wanted it to be organized.  My laptop crashed before I got to post it, but writing it helped. 

@strykerpks if it helps, a good part of the reason for my depression was losing a job of 12 years. It was a good paying job but corporate politics caught up to me and the right person got the right reason to get rid of me, some of it through my own fault, and most of it not. I digress, but my point is that no job is worth it. I am happier now that I don't have that job and from what I hear from the folks I used to work with, they did me a favor when they peaced me out with a nice package. The job is important in that I am guessing you need it to support your family, but don't make it the end all be all. I have a new opportunity now, several months later, and while less than ideal in some respects, the new gig is not going to be the death of me either.

On a personal level, getting on a script for wellbutrin has also helped, I think. It took some therapy and a doc for me to figure out  "wow, I have been battling depression in one form or another for my entire life".  It was getting canned that pushed me over the proverbial edge. In the long run they did me a favor.   It is always darkest before the dawn, it will get better, just believe that it will.

I also have to pose a serious question in here. Anyone ever deal with someone with Xanax addiction? If so, I'll take any advice I can get. We are afraid this has become an issue for my step-son. 

TIA

 
First post here. I really don't know what I'm doing but I just need to type some #### out. I think it's time I went and talked to a professional.

I just had a wonderful Thanksgiving day with family and friends, yet I'm sitting here crying. My wife and I just had a disagreement and my gut reaction was to say "I'm not happy"

I'm not.

I love my wife and children. I hate my job. Ultimately I'm not "not happy" because of my job. No one likes their job. I think that's just my excuse. That's what I tell my wife, She was crying and asking what she could do. She can't do anything more. She is the ultimate mother to our kids. I'm the #######.

I don't know what I'm typing. It just helps to get it out I think.  I think I'll find out in the morning
Just curious what you currently do for a living? Is it withing the realm of possibility to try something else or are you more or less forced financially to stay in your position/field?

 
I had typed a bunch of stuff out to post in this thread over the summer, I put it in a word document with the thought of sharing it, but I wanted it to be organized.  My laptop crashed before I got to post it, but writing it helped. 

@strykerpks if it helps, a good part of the reason for my depression was losing a job of 12 years. It was a good paying job but corporate politics caught up to me and the right person got the right reason to get rid of me, some of it through my own fault, and most of it not. I digress, but my point is that no job is worth it. I am happier now that I don't have that job and from what I hear from the folks I used to work with, they did me a favor when they peaced me out with a nice package. The job is important in that I am guessing you need it to support your family, but don't make it the end all be all. I have a new opportunity now, several months later, and while less than ideal in some respects, the new gig is not going to be the death of me either.

On a personal level, getting on a script for wellbutrin has also helped, I think. It took some therapy and a doc for me to figure out  "wow, I have been battling depression in one form or another for my entire life".  It was getting canned that pushed me over the proverbial edge. In the long run they did me a favor.   It is always darkest before the dawn, it will get better, just believe that it will.

I also have to pose a serious question in here. Anyone ever deal with someone with Xanax addiction? If so, I'll take any advice I can get. We are afraid this has become an issue for my step-son. 

TIA
Xanax addiction should be handled like other drug additions with medical professionals and a detox program. I'd start with the psychiatrist rx'ing the xanax, and to find a detox centre that fits for your step son, if he is addicted. Hopefully he's  receiving therapy and not just popping pills. Good luck. X

 
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Xanax addiction should be handled like other drug additions with medical professionals and a detox program. I'd start with the psychiatrist rx'ing the xanax, and to find a detox centre that fits for your step son, if he is addicted. Hopefully he's  receiving therapy and not just popping pills. Good luck. X
Unfortunately it is not a doctor rx'ing the xanax . He has had his own struggles to be certain, but we have reason to believe that he has a source other than a medical professional. So yea, it is more of the not receiving therapy and self medicating that we are dealing with  :(

Thanks for the well wishes and advice. I appreciate it. 

 
Thanks all. I was a bit overserved last night and that played a bit into it. We've had some good conversations today. Things go beyond my job. It's been a trying year or so with our family for reasons I'll keep to myself for now. At any rate we've both agreed to work on some changes. Today was great. Put up some Christmas lights for the kids and played bocce on the PS3 together. It was fun and things really felt different for the first time in a long time.

@dickey moe I'm a warehouse manager for a shipping company. But I've been there 18 years so I'm compensated very well and have a ton of flexibility. I've been passively looking for something else for the past 5 years or so but nothing has materialized. It has to be the right fit. I'm sure that sounds like excuses but I've had a some interviews and offers that I've turned down. :Shrug: 

 
Thanks all. I was a bit overserved last night and that played a bit into it. We've had some good conversations today. Things go beyond my job. It's been a trying year or so with our family for reasons I'll keep to myself for now. At any rate we've both agreed to work on some changes. Today was great. Put up some Christmas lights for the kids and played bocce on the PS3 together. It was fun and things really felt different for the first time in a long time.

@dickey moe I'm a warehouse manager for a shipping company. But I've been there 18 years so I'm compensated very well and have a ton of flexibility. I've been passively looking for something else for the past 5 years or so but nothing has materialized. It has to be the right fit. I'm sure that sounds like excuses but I've had a some interviews and offers that I've turned down. :Shrug: 
Np. I'm kind of in the same boat. Occasionally looking into other opportunities (which are somewhat limited locally and can't move because my wife's business depends on her staying where we are). I like where we live and have considered going into business for myself at some point but it would take a giant leap of faith.

 
Crazy this thread popping back up...I almost went looking for it again.  Have two things I wanted to discuss:

First off, I wanted to warn those of us with proclivities to depression to keep doing what helps you, even when things seem to be going fine.  Work has become relentlessly stressful for several months now and it has taken a toll.  I've started having thoughts of wanting to die from time to time.  I've stopped working out, eat poorly, drink more and sleep less.  If it wasn't for my medication and officiating football games, I'd probably be in a very dark place right now. Luckily, there is also a light at the end of the tunnel for me at work, but I'll have at least 3 more weeks of stress.  I feel like I've learned a lot and can cope without spinning further.  I have talked with my wife and she is checking on me daily.  I am making a conscious effort to eat healthier and am committing to actually working out 2 times/week.

Secondly, I'd like some advice.  I'm thinking about letting my boss know what has been going on with me and curious to know what everyone thinks.  My work has slipped and he has noticed.  I'm keeping my head above water, but I was doing really well before this.  I think he already understands and isn't blaming me because I inherited a mess, but he also assigned another guy to help me keep up.  I'm afraid it will start to become an issue if I can't get more done than I am currently capable of.  I just don't have the mental capacity to work anymore long nights or weekends.  Anytime I do it is like one step forward and two steps back.  He is a good guy and seems understanding, but I'm not sure what his take on depression is.  A lot of people just don't get it and I'm afraid he'll see me as incapable or a liability.  I'm leaning toward simply getting through this stage and hoping turning things around in a couple of months, but I don't want to get some kind of poor review or worse and then either just let them think I suck or make it look like I'm using depression as an excuse after the fact.  This also coincides with the timing of me officiating football and I'm also afraid they may see that as the reason for my struggles and either ask me to quit or hold it against me.
sorry to hear this, man.  I know this is bit late, but never saw it before.  hope you got through this rough patch.  in general, i think that trying to give some kind of explanation sounds like the right thing to do. 

really hope you are able to get past the thoughts of wanting to die.  there are many great things in life that you will experience, so hopefully you can focus on those.

 
First post here. I really don't know what I'm doing but I just need to type some #### out. I think it's time I went and talked to a professional.

I just had a wonderful Thanksgiving day with family and friends, yet I'm sitting here crying. My wife and I just had a disagreement and my gut reaction was to say "I'm not happy"

I'm not.

I love my wife and children. I hate my job. Ultimately I'm not "not happy" because of my job. No one likes their job. I think that's just my excuse. That's what I tell my wife, She was crying and asking what she could do. She can't do anything more. She is the ultimate mother to our kids. I'm the #######.

I don't know what I'm typing. It just helps to get it out I think.  I think I'll find out in the morning
i get the desire to think this way, and i'm sure your wife deserves all credit and respect, but you are not necessarily the #######.  lots of things may be hitting you hard and there is no shame in feeling and expressing that.  i'm sure that your wife wants you to be happy and to express your emotions and to support and help you actualize yourself.  so just appreciate that and try to strive to be your best self, whether that means getting a new job or or figuring out some other way to make things work better.

 
Well, it has been a rough week. Between the political news and the place where I am working and living is closing, have been feeling down. It is situational, it will pass. But I hope next week is an improvement
Update? I hope you landed on your feet and are doing well.

Life can be challenging, unexpectedly. And at that point the urgency of the situation can be overwhelming.

I have gone from living in a nice house on the golf course to homeless/hotels/sleeping in car back to nice house. Several times, unfortunately. 

You are right, it is always situational. This too shall pass. 

 
A friend took his life tonight.  Mid 40s. 3 children.  A tragedy.

Please check in if you need help. 
Sorry to hear that. And especially for the family he left behind, at the holidays no less.

As someone who has half heartedly hoped for a blown tire  while driving 70 mph down the interstate many times, I can't imagine the pain and hopelessness that someone must feel to actually go through with ending it all. 

Sorry for your loss and for the pain he was in. 

 
Update? I hope you landed on your feet and are doing well.

Life can be challenging, unexpectedly. And at that point the urgency of the situation can be overwhelming.

I have gone from living in a nice house on the golf course to homeless/hotels/sleeping in car back to nice house. Several times, unfortunately. 

You are right, it is always situational. This too shall pass. 
Thanks for checking.

Well, I am still here. Official close date is January 10th. But people are working with the new owner to keep it open. I feel good it will happen.  Otherwise I have a place to go if this falls through. 

How are you doing? I never was homeless, but came close. Hope you are safe for thus holiday season.

 
sorry man, any clues prior that he would do something like this?
I wasn't super close but my best friend was so nothing for me.  He reached out last week asking for a job and now my buddy is wondering if he handled the conversation right.  ####ty situation every way you look at it.

 
Does anyone take any over-the-counter type medications/supplements that help them with maintaining a good mental balance, reducing anxiety, etc.?

 
Thanks for checking.

Well, I am still here. Official close date is January 10th. But people are working with the new owner to keep it open. I feel good it will happen.  Otherwise I have a place to go if this falls through. 

How are you doing? I never was homeless, but came close. Hope you are safe for thus holiday season.
Wishing you good mojo in the new year.

 
I wasn't super close but my best friend was so nothing for me.  He reached out last week asking for a job and now my buddy is wondering if he handled the conversation right.  ####ty situation every way you look at it.
Sorry for your loss. The holiday season is the worst for those suffering.

Your buddy shouldn't blame himself. Clinical depression is difficult even for therapists to tackle. My bro held the same guilt when his friend killed himself in 2013 because he missed checking in one time. It took awhile but he realised it was bigger than him.

Most people plotting suicide show no real signs. It's hard to tell if someone is just in the moment saying they can't go on or if it's for real. The only thing we can do for anyone who's depressed is to be there and show we care. It may or may not prevent suicide as professional care is a must as well as the support.

I pray for his family. May he rip. Xxx

 
Thanks for checking.

Well, I am still here. Official close date is January 10th. But people are working with the new owner to keep it open. I feel good it will happen.  Otherwise I have a place to go if this falls through. 

How are you doing? I never was homeless, but came close. Hope you are safe for thus holiday season.
Happy to hear you have a place tl go in the event this doesn't work out. Wishing you the best in 2019! Xxx

 
@nihilist_arbys is a fun twitter feed for the depressed soul. 

And I hate this time of year. It gives me so much stress and anxiety that I just do not need or want. Just don’t understand how people enjoy all this #### every year. 

 
Does anyone take any over-the-counter type medications/supplements that help them with maintaining a good mental balance, reducing anxiety, etc.?
More in favor of things like Tai Chi, focused breathing, meditation, mindfulness than supplements for those seeking to keep their distance from the void without crossing over to pharma solutions. There is a feral beast competing with a genius angel inside every human being - balance is a must.

 
@NFL2DF, we have had big differences in the political forum, but I appreciate you asking about me. I really hope you have wonderful Holidays and that 2019 is your best year ever

 
Does anyone take any over-the-counter type medications/supplements that help them with maintaining a good mental balance, reducing anxiety, etc.?
i agree that meditation and mindfulness is useful, but I have been taking deproloft for a while, which is an adaptogen that helps your body respond better to stress.  Also an Adrenal Rx supplement recently, which is similar.

Rhodiola is also supposed to be a good one for mood, but it didn't seem to have much of an impact on me.

 
i agree that meditation and mindfulness is useful, but I have been taking deproloft for a while, which is an adaptogen that helps your body respond better to stress.  Also an Adrenal Rx supplement recently, which is similar.

Rhodiola is also supposed to be a good one for mood, but it didn't seem to have much of an impacteo on me.
Are those over the counter? Any others that people may use that have a benefit?

 
chet said:
I wasn't super close but my best friend was so nothing for me.  He reached out last week asking for a job and now my buddy is wondering if he handled the conversation right.  ####ty situation every way you look at it.
oh man, that has to be pretty tough for your buddy - that could last a lifetime.  

 
For those taking a pharma route I thought I would share that I have had great success with generic Pristiq. As opposed to only an SSRI like Prozac, which I was on a couple months ago, it's a a serotonin AND norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (SNRI).  I haven't had an 7-10 depression day since I started taking it (1-10 scale). YMMV.

 
For those taking a pharma route I thought I would share that I have had great success with generic Pristiq. As opposed to only an SSRI like Prozac, which I was on a couple months ago, it's a a serotonin AND norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (SNRI).  I haven't had an 7-10 depression day since I started taking it (1-10 scale). YMMV.
Pristiq is a lateral move from effexor and has the same withdrawal ses as effexor which makes it hard to wean off even slowly. But if it's working, then that's good. Just giving a heads up when cousin was trying to find the right meds. GL xx

 
Pristiq is a lateral move from effexor and has the same withdrawal ses as effexor which makes it hard to wean off even slowly. But if it's working, then that's good. Just giving a heads up when cousin was trying to find the right meds. GL xx
I take effexor and I hate it.  I guess it works but there is NO remedy that I have tried that works better than marijuana.

I would love to dump the pharma drug and just go with pot but Im sure thats probably not wise.

 
I take effexor and I hate it.  I guess it works but there is NO remedy that I have tried that works better than marijuana.

I would love to dump the pharma drug and just go with pot but Im sure thats probably not wise.
My experience is that many try an assortment of SSRIs before finding one that synchs with their system. It might be wise, if you're less than satisfied but hesitant to do without, to rotate a new one in annually. One might click - seen that as often as not before. GL -

 

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