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*** Official Discussion of US Politics Resulting From The Ukraine Conflict *** aka Discuss what Donald and AOC said/tweeted here here (1 Viewer)
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HellToupee
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great idea
While you are starting threads another good idea , imo, would be a dedicated thread for media like livestreams and YouTube interviews.
While you are starting threads another good idea , imo, would be a dedicated thread for media like livestreams and YouTube interviews.
HellToupee
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timschochet
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I expressed my thoughts in the main thread. They’re appropriate there, and not “pollution”. I have nothing further to offer.
PhillipPhoto
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OldMilwaukee
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This is all on Biden. End of story.
He encourage the attack by reducing the US sources of energy, and abandoning Afghanistan. It is nowhere near as complex as some proselytizing.
He encourage the attack by reducing the US sources of energy, and abandoning Afghanistan. It is nowhere near as complex as some proselytizing.
Apple Juice
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PhillipPhoto
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Is it true that Trump somewhat jokingly told Putin that if he went sniffing around Ukraine, Trump would bomb Moscow and that it would be a shame if all those beautiful buildings in Moscow were turned to rubble?
Biden says let's wait a month and see what happens.
Biden says let's wait a month and see what happens.
dozer
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As Russian forces invade Ukraine, Russian TV features Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo and Tucker Carlson praising Putin.
Putin is evil. Every American watching what’s happening in Ukraine should know that.
—Liz Cheney
Putin is evil. Every American watching what’s happening in Ukraine should know that.
—Liz Cheney
dozer
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The mystery “surprise guest” at AFPAC tonight was Marge Greene.
Here she is welcomed by their leader, white nationalist, Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes.
And posted in other threads, here is the clip of America First PAC attendees chanting their support for Putin and Russia.
Some of the worst America has to offer on full display…
So, now the only groups supporting Putin are China and the extreme right wing in America.
Here she is welcomed by their leader, white nationalist, Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes.
And posted in other threads, here is the clip of America First PAC attendees chanting their support for Putin and Russia.
Some of the worst America has to offer on full display…
So, now the only groups supporting Putin are China and the extreme right wing in America.
FairWarning
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Somehow I see that visual of the Russian TV in a democratic campaign ad if Trump runs. Can’t say I would blame them either.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
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James Daulton
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Oddly enough, the only conservatives I hear saying anything about this really unamerican display is to whatabout something Maxine Walters said about Trump.
This is truly crazy town.
FairWarning
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James Daulton
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FairWarning
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dozer
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Marge Greene now claims that when she went as the headline speaker to the America First rally last night, she didn’t know what they were about.
She didn’t know anything about their leader who invited and introduced her....
..and EXCUSE ME!..... just went because she cares about young people.
dozer
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Twitter Thread from The Hoarse Whisperer (Rolling Stone)
Someday, historians will look back at the last two weeks and recognize that Biden and American intelligence outing Putin’s plans to fabricate a cause of war was a major historic domino.
It led to Putin’s unhinged rant about restoring imperialist Soviet Russia…
…which in turn shocked, scared and woke up even Putin’s “friends” to the danger he poses.
“Sometimes you have to enlarge a problem to solve it.”
Putin enlarged it by revealing Ukraine to be merely part of his imperialist plan to destroy Eastern Europe as we know it.
Someday, historians will look back at the last two weeks and recognize that Biden and American intelligence outing Putin’s plans to fabricate a cause of war was a major historic domino.
It led to Putin’s unhinged rant about restoring imperialist Soviet Russia…
…which in turn shocked, scared and woke up even Putin’s “friends” to the danger he poses.
“Sometimes you have to enlarge a problem to solve it.”
Putin enlarged it by revealing Ukraine to be merely part of his imperialist plan to destroy Eastern Europe as we know it.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Oh absolutely. What the clown said was terrible. And Marjorie Taylor Greene is a stain on the Republican Party. Ugly in every way.
dozer
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Asha Rangappa Twitter
"Now would be a good time for news outlets to revisit (in detail) Paul Manafort’s efforts in Ukraine on behalf of pro-Russian interests and why the FBI was clearly justified in trying to figure out what he was up to in the Trump campaign in 2016."
Oh, and that Trump pardoned him...
"It could also be a good time to ask Sen. RonJohnson and others (Rudi) why they were parroting Russia’s claims that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election."
Just Security Article from August, 2020
"Senator Ron Johnson has been laying the groundwork to undertake Ukrainegate 2.0: An attempt to accomplish through a congressional hearing what President Donald Trump was unable to achieve through his quid pro quo to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, namely, to put Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, under a cloud of suspicion before the country votes this November."
"Now would be a good time for news outlets to revisit (in detail) Paul Manafort’s efforts in Ukraine on behalf of pro-Russian interests and why the FBI was clearly justified in trying to figure out what he was up to in the Trump campaign in 2016."
Oh, and that Trump pardoned him...
"It could also be a good time to ask Sen. RonJohnson and others (Rudi) why they were parroting Russia’s claims that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election."
Just Security Article from August, 2020
"Senator Ron Johnson has been laying the groundwork to undertake Ukrainegate 2.0: An attempt to accomplish through a congressional hearing what President Donald Trump was unable to achieve through his quid pro quo to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, namely, to put Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, under a cloud of suspicion before the country votes this November."
moleculo
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Was the report that Trump had support for Ukraine dropped from the GOP platform in 2016 ever debunked?
timschochet
Footballguy
I don’t understand why AOC is in the title of this thread. Did she say something controversial about this war?
knowledge dropper
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HellToupee
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@Dinsy Ejotuz . Didn’t want to ask in the Ukraine thread but are you calling cpac a white supremacist conference?
dozer
Footballguy
Dinsy is talking about the AFPAC.
And the conference was chock full of White Nationalists…
AFPAC- America First Political Action Committee
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HellToupee
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dozer
Footballguy
Marjorie Taylor-Green was the Keynote speaker…
Claims she never heard of Nick Fuentes, the guy that invited and introduced her…
Nick Fuentes was photographed hanging out with fellow white supremacist, Baked Alaska, in the Capitol on J6.
Fuentes was also a big presence at the Charlottesville white supremacist rally.
dozer
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Ronna McDaniel statement on Marjorie Taylor Greene appearance last night at Fuentes event: “White supremacy, neo-Nazism, hate speech and bigotry are disgusting and do not have a home in the Republican Party.”
dozer
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The white nationalist AFPAC event that Marjorie Taylor Greene spoke at was also attended by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes.
dozer
Footballguy
CPAC not much better….
Will Hild—Former deputy director at the Federalist Society is making jokes at CPAC about Hillary Clinton killing her critics and covering up the murders.
Same Hillary that has been investigated for years and testified in public for 11 hours…
What office is She running for?
Sheesh, talk about living in their heads…
Will Hild—Former deputy director at the Federalist Society is making jokes at CPAC about Hillary Clinton killing her critics and covering up the murders.
Same Hillary that has been investigated for years and testified in public for 11 hours…
What office is She running for?
Sheesh, talk about living in their heads…
moleculo
Footballguy
I think it's interesting to ask, who do the Russians prefer in office?
Daily Beast
As for Putin’s biggest cheerleader, former U.S. President Donald J. Trump, who described the Kremlin’s moves in Ukraine as “genius,” Putin’s men in Moscow anxiously await his return as their sole hope for relief from rapidly accelerating Western sanctions—which will soon include the disconnection of Russia’s biggest banks from a global messaging system known as SWIFT.
During his Friday broadcast, amid tense discussions of Western sanctions, Soloviev theatrically looked down at his watch and asked: “Is Trump coming back soon?”
H/T to @cosjobs
Daily Beast
As for Putin’s biggest cheerleader, former U.S. President Donald J. Trump, who described the Kremlin’s moves in Ukraine as “genius,” Putin’s men in Moscow anxiously await his return as their sole hope for relief from rapidly accelerating Western sanctions—which will soon include the disconnection of Russia’s biggest banks from a global messaging system known as SWIFT.
During his Friday broadcast, amid tense discussions of Western sanctions, Soloviev theatrically looked down at his watch and asked: “Is Trump coming back soon?”
H/T to @cosjobs
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BassNBrew
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1. Insert a Dem of your choosing. Although you and I probably agree on our disdain for Trump, there are people here with differing opinions.
2. She previously attacked a great American who has done more to help Ukraine than AOC will ever dream about.
Thanks for bringing your lowest form of discussion to the lowest form of discussion thread.
timschochet
Footballguy
OK. Thanks for clarifying your reasoning and your opinions. I will withdraw from further discussion in this thread.
BassNBrew
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FYI…the fbg_moderator specifically asked you to post war politics in threads like this.
moleculo
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Mile High
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James Daulton
Footballguy
The take from a very Trump-centric board is that the media is lying and that the Russians are doing everything they want against very little resistance.
It's amazing how one person has turned a significant group of people into believing that nothing they see or read is real unless it comes from his mouth.
Crazy times.
It's amazing how one person has turned a significant group of people into believing that nothing they see or read is real unless it comes from his mouth.
Crazy times.
supermike80
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James Daulton
Footballguy
For real. Many folks on that other board think we're all being fed misinformation from the MSM. A lot also side with Putin and keep talking about how the US created the problem.
Summer Wheat
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They were talking about gun control and people needing and taking up arms in Ukraine and said "could you imagine an invading army trying to occupy America? It could never happen they would be out gunned by the civilians"
If those vehicles drove though Chicago`s east side they would look like swiss cheese.
If those vehicles drove though Chicago`s east side they would look like swiss cheese.
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massraider
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This war has really sucked the oxygen right out of CPAC and the convoy, huh?
GoBirds
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Chaz McNulty
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While planning for the Ukraine invasion, I have to believe that Putin was really counting on Trump getting in a 2nd term and the West and NATO being divided. It was a major miscalculation on his part. He would have been better off trying this in 2019.
Trump is seen as a friend to Putin, tough on NATO, and fairly indifferent to the Ukraine. There is no way we would be getting the united response to the Russian invasion that we are seeing right now. From Trump's previous actions regarding Putin, I would think there would be a minimal response from Trump, and the sanctions would be fairly muted compared to what they are right now. You might have even heard Trump talk about how Russia had some very valid arguments for invading the Ukraine.
Trump is seen as a friend to Putin, tough on NATO, and fairly indifferent to the Ukraine. There is no way we would be getting the united response to the Russian invasion that we are seeing right now. From Trump's previous actions regarding Putin, I would think there would be a minimal response from Trump, and the sanctions would be fairly muted compared to what they are right now. You might have even heard Trump talk about how Russia had some very valid arguments for invading the Ukraine.
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