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Ted Cruz Appears To Get Most Of North Dakota’s National Delegates


Well the NDGOP’s 2016 convention just ended – finally – and the last bit of business was the party’s delegate to the national convention.

This was a big deal, because the possibility of a contested convention is looming, North Dakota’s unbound delegates might be a big factor.

Certainly the presidential campaigns made a show of it. Ted Cruz himself addressed the delegates, as did his surrogate Carly Fiorina. Donald Trump sent his top surrogate Ben Carson to the state, and even Kasich sent some former Senator to speak.

There was an intense amount of scrutiny on who the delegates would be. The Cruz campaign circulated a flyer with the names of delegates they wanted.

After the delegates voted, the Cruz got 18 of the names they wanted (though the Trump campaign has been spinning to the national media that some of those names might be theirs.

The first part of the list is above (they displayed them on the screens at the convention) and the second part is below. Delegates 1-25 are the actual delegates. Those after are alternates.

... One thing to keep in mind is that none of these delegates are bound. They have inclinations, I guess, but they aren’t required to vote any particular way.
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https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/ted-cruz-appears-to-get-most-of-north-dakotas-national-delegates/

- Cruz showed up in ND, Trump did not.

Considering the 3 other delegates of the 28 are ND GOP party leaders, it looks like Cruz has grabbed 21 of 28 delegates in ND. - eta - Apparently a good deal like 5-6 of the remaining 7 delegates are not committed to Donald either.

 
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Colorado has had ongoing delegate selection by district this weekend and apparently it continues into next weekend.

There is no vote.

Colorado canceled its binding presidential straw poll at the March 1 caucus, allowing its 37 national delegates to pledge to a candidate or remain unbound.
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This is an indication of where things are going.

Ted Cruz is the favored candidate among the 587 party activists vying for one of the 13 national delegate slots on the state level — but the majority want to remain unpledged to the Cleveland convention, according to a final list released Friday by the Colorado Republican Party.

Cruz won the support of 30 percent of the potential statewide delegate candidates, compared to just 7 percent for Donald Trump. John Kasich finished with 2 percent, while Marco Rubio and Ben Carson registered 1 percent or less, the figures show.
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http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2016/04/01/ted-cruz-colorado-gop-delegates/125400/

So 37 delegates up for grabs, and they appear to be doing this district by district.


 


Ted Cruz wins first 6 Colorado delegates, Donald Trump shut out


Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz took the first six national delegates awarded in Colorado, winning all the seats elected at two congressional district conventions Saturday.

Of the six delegates and six alternates elected, 10 pledged support to the Texas senator and two are unpledged.

Donald Trump supporters made loud noise at the conventions and John Kasich put forward a three-delegate slate — but both candidates were shut out.

The overwhelming win showcased the Cruz campaign’s months-long efforts behind the scenes in Colorado, led by U.S. Rep. Ken Buck with help from grassroots organizations, Gun Owners of America and the Faith and Freedom Coalition. ...

The six awarded Saturday represent just a fraction of the 34 delegates Colorado will award in the next week. The remaining three of the state’s 37 total are party leaders who are so far unpledged.

...The early results affirm that the state’s caucus system favors the candidate with the best organization, despite dedicated fans for Trump.

“This is fundamentally a grassroots, conservative state,” said John Carson, a CU Regent and Cruz supporter elected here at the Congressional District 6 convention.
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http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2016/04/02/ted-cruz-wins-colorado-delegates-donald-trump/125427/

- So it looks like Cruz is on his way to a solid win CO.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:   You and about 10 others have 400 posts responding to him in these threads.
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Oh Giggles. I guarantee I don't even have 25% of the amount of posts in these Trump threads as Higgs does. And not a tenth of the posts he has this weekend. I wasn't near a computer Friday or Saturday nights. 

 
JuniorNB said:
Oh Giggles. I guarantee I don't even have 25% of the amount of posts in these Trump threads as Higgs does. And not a tenth of the posts he has this weekend. I wasn't near a computer Friday or Saturday nights. 
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Let me guess - out at the local club?  Nursing those Sea Breezes and putting out the vibe?

 
Higgs said:
Let me guess - out at the local club?  Nursing those Sea Breezes and putting out the vibe?
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Friday night, out with my girl for dinner with some other family members.  Last night, took her to the Sand's casino to hear a band. Not as cool as message boarding all night, but it passes the time.  

 
Higgs said:
Now now squis, leave MOP out of this.  He's classier than you guys would ever know.
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Sorry, I am not Rubiobot, which should be obvious to anyone familiar with my postings (I doubt I could get away with an alias even if I wanted to).

 
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Considering AZ finished earlier, Cruz is on pace to win: UT, ND, WI, CO consecutively. Apparently WY has some residual delegate gathering to go there and Cruz is expected to get a few more delegates there.

After that, there is:

- 4/19 - NY

- 4/26 - PA + CT, DE, MD, RI

In NY whether Trump can get 50+% of the vote is a big deal, because at that threshold it's winner take all (WTA). Currently the count is:

CBS/YouGov New York:

Trump 52

Cruz 21

Kasich 20

Meanwhile there is a 20% threshold for qualification for delegates to Cruz has to reach that level to split with Donald even if he is sub-50.

Allocation: 11 at-large, 81 congressional district, 3 automatic. - Even so we are just talking about 11 delegates for WTA (I believe). So NY could end up a divided pie. But even so at ~20% in many districts Cruz is going to have a hard time winning a lot of that 85 delegates portion by district even if Donald only does relatively so-so.

CBS/YouGov Pennsylvania:

Trump 47

Cruz 29

Kasich 22

- Not so sure about this one as I think I've seen Kasich and Cruz both hovering around ~30% there as of a week or so ago.

We discussed in January how the Republican Party arrives at Pennsylvania’s 71 delegate allocation total. Three party leaders, plus four bonus delegates added to 64 electoral delegates. 10 of those electoral delegates are distributed to every state as each state has two Senators (five delegates per Senator). The rest of the electoral delegates is determined by granting 3 delegates to each congressional district in the state.

Pennsylvania has 18 congressional districts multiplied by three delegates equals 54 delegates. Why are those delegates important? Because they are completely unbound.
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http://www.politicspa.com/pennsylvanias-54-toss-up-delegates/73656/

 
JuniorNB said:
Friday night, out with my girl for dinner with some other family members.  Last night, took her to the Sand's casino to hear a band. Not as cool as message boarding all night, but it passes the time.  
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:thumbup:  Awesome.  I'd ask GM to regale us further with tales of how wonderful his life is, but unfortunately he's in the timeout chair.

 
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Jeff B/DDHQ ‏@EsotericCD


Jeff B/DDHQ Retweeted Ernest Lee Luning

This sort of long-game delegate scrounging is what the Cruz operation was designed for from start. Paying off in CO.
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- PA could prove crucial, even if Donald "wins" many of the 54 district delegates in PA, they may still do whatever they might want at the actual convention and Cruz has been really good at picking off delegates in little batches of 3-5 at a time in various districts.
 
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Patrick Ruffini ‏@PatrickRuffini Apr 1
Overall, this Maryland model has Trump performing 1.4% worse in MD than VA but with a few caveats.
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- MD's numbers are expected to go like VA (Trump won with 34.7), however VA had Rubio doing very well (32%) and you'd have to expect a good deal of that Rubio vote going to Cruz & Kasich. In MO for instance the Rubio vote went 5/6 against Trump. My guess is MD goes Cruz or Kasich.
 
Rubiobot said:
:confused:  

Wait...I thought the mods were all biased towards libs and only gave Trump supporters timeouts?
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GM gave them no choice.  He even acknowledged in his rant that he was going to get a timeout for it.  It was disgusting stuff.  Just horrible really.

 
Were he to be elected president, Trump said he would want high-level employees of the federal government to sign legally binding nondisclosure agreements so that staffers couldn’t write insider accounts of what it’s like inside a Trump White House.

“When people are chosen by a man to go into government at high levels and then they leave government and they write a book about a man and say a lot of things that were really guarded and personal, I don’t like that,” Trump said.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-turmoil-or-triumph-donald-trump-stands-alone/2016/04/02/8c0619b6-f8d6-11e5-a3ce-f06b5ba21f33_story.html?postshare=4601459641412217&tid=ss_tw

- Another totally nutso idea out of nowhere. This is against the 1st Amendment rights of federal employees, is openly hostile to transparency, and creates a scenario where the federal government would be suing and intimidating its own highest level members of the administration.

 
The General said:
Outrage is a bit much, but it's not fake. 

This is much more complicated than saying it's now illegal so you arrest people. Gaffe machine Trump of course wades right into it throwing out all sorts of nonsense as he tends to do. When people discuss what he means it's "gotcha" journalism or people are "out to get him". What a load of ####.

Also, I don't think many people are "for abortions". 
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Maybe you explain Hillary's gaffe on the abortion issue today.  Is it a child?  Is it a person?  If so, how are their constitutional rights not protected?  Anxiously await all the pro abortion folks to respond.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/3/hillary-clinton-unborn-person-has-no-constitutiona/

 
Higgs said:
:thumbup:  Awesome.  I'd ask GM to regale us further with tales of how wonderful his life is, but unfortunately he's in the timeout chair.
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The guy with that huge post about how awesome he is because he's VP of some kids soccer league talking tough online.... Not enough of these :lmao: . 

 
Higgs said:
Maybe you explain Hillary's gaffe on the abortion issue today.  Is it a child?  Is it a person?  If so, how are their constitutional rights not protected?  Anxiously await all the pro abortion folks to respond.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/3/hillary-clinton-unborn-person-has-no-constitutiona/
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First, no one is pro-abortion. Not sure where you get this term from. It's pretty gross.

I don't know where Hillary is on this topic so not sure if this is a big change from where she was in the past. I'll let you google that for me and get back to me. What she said there seemed pretty reasonable to me. You can stick to your guys stance which my understanding is to work to make abortion illegal and when this has happened arrest women.

 
The General said:
First, no one is pro-abortion. Not sure where you get this term from. It's pretty gross.

I don't know where Hillary is on this topic so not sure if this is a big change from where she was in the past. I'll let you google that for me and get back to me. What she said there seemed pretty reasonable to me. You can stick to your guys stance which my understanding is to work to make abortion illegal and when this has happened arrest women.
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Losers says pro-abortion because pro-choice actually sounds reasonable and correct. 

 
Cruz needs to drop out

Based on current delegate counts and poll numbers Ted Cruz will be mathematically unable to reach the delegate count required for him to win the Republican Presidential nomination.  

By the end April it will be clear that Ted Cruz has no chance of reaching the 1,237 delegates needed to win the nomination.

Actually in only 3 weeks, on April 26th, it will be clear that Ted Cruz cannot win.
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
 


- PA could prove crucial, even if Donald "wins" many of the 54 district delegates in PA, they may still do whatever they might want at the actual convention and Cruz has been really good at picking off delegates in little batches of 3-5 at a time in various districts.
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Yeah the PA vote really means nothing unfortunately. I wonder if the GOP has really thought through the whole support-Ted-Cruz thing.

 
Rohn Jambo said:
Trump's poll numbers went up?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3522167/Trump-lashes-dirty-rotten-cheater-Cruz-worst-week-comes-close-IMPROVED-poll-numbers-predicts-big-surprise-Wisconsin-primary.html
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Not surprising at all.  The abortion "controversy" was nothing more than a silly media trap.  No substance there.  The Lewandowski arrest was absolutely ludicrous.  No one in their right mind looks at that and sees anything worthy of a criminal prosecution.  The big negative in the past two weeks for a trump was the Heidi tweet.  That right there lost him some votes and angered a lot of his supporters.  And Trump knows he blew it there, and he admitted as much.  It probably cost him Wisconsin though.

 
dfsguy said:
Cruz needs to drop out

Based on current delegate counts and poll numbers Ted Cruz will be mathematically unable to reach the delegate count required for him to win the Republican Presidential nomination.  

By the end April it will be clear that Ted Cruz has no chance of reaching the 1,237 delegates needed to win the nomination.

Actually in only 3 weeks, on April 26th, it will be clear that Ted Cruz cannot win.
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This cannot be real. No one of voting age could fall for this.

 
[scooter] said:
This cannot be real. No one of voting age could fall for this.
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Most people of voting age, other than yourself apparently, can read.  The article says that by April 26th Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from being able to secure the necessary delegates (1,237) to win the nomination.  They say it twice.  And you don't believe this can be real?  So you suck at math as well as English?  :lmao:

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
The first First Lady de Trump speaks on immigration - we need it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/275032-ivana-trump-we-need-immigrants-to-clean-for-us
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“And I’m an immigrant,” said Ivana, who was born in the Czech Republic. 

“As long as you come here legally and get a proper job … we need immigrants. Who’s going to vacuum our living rooms and clean up after us? Americans don’t like to do that,” she added. 

The Republican presidential front-runner's first wife insisted she has “nothing against Mexicans.” 

“But if they [come] here — like this 19-year-old, she’s pregnant, she crossed over a wall that’s this high. She gives birth in American hospital, which is for free. The child becomes American automatically,” she said. “She brings the whole family, she doesn’t pay the taxes, she doesn’t have a job, she gets housing, she gets the food stamps. Who’s paying? You and me.” 
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As ####ing stupid as Drumpf.

 
Higgs said:
Most people of voting age, other than yourself apparently, can read.  The article says that by April 26th Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from being able to secure the necessary delegates (1,237) to win the nomination.  They say it twice.  And you don't believe this can be real?  So you suck at math as well as English?  :lmao:
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Probably the fact that both statements are wrong. Ted Cruz doesn't have to get to 1237 to win the Republican nomination. And, therefore, he can win with something fewer than 1237 delegates.

 
bentley said:
Higgs said:
Most people of voting age, other than yourself apparently, can read.  The article says that by April 26th Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from being able to secure the necessary delegates (1,237) to win the nomination.  They say it twice.  And you don't believe this can be real?  So you suck at math as well as English?  :lmao:
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Probably the fact that both statements are wrong. Ted Cruz doesn't have to get to 1237 to win the Republican nomination. And, therefore, he can win with something fewer than 1237 delegates.
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Actually what I meant by "this can't be real" was "this can't be a real post by a real poster because no one is dumb enough to fall for such a logically flawed premise".

 
Well,  obviously I don't condone death threats,  but let me say,  people are very upset,  they feel very passionate,  and when they see how unfairly Fox News treats me,  I mean,  look, you know,  Megyn Kelly is a very attractive woman,  very attractive, I've been around beautiful women, believe me..... and clearly you know, I mean look,  she started it really,  it's difficult  to blame people who are angry at the status quo, and sometimes they get a little overboard,  a little......I love the passion, I really do.......but obviously I don't condone that,  no. 

 
what was so "wishy washy" about Trump's stance on abortion? from the video I watched, he said he was pro-life about 3 times. very clearly stated his position. Is the criticism coming from something else? different video?

 
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