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This whole idea that Putin decided our president is totally off the rails insane. It’s one thing that the left-wing media continues to promote it, its another that people in high places give it legitimacy. It seems like all rational thought has evaporated.
I know, right.  it's almost as crazy as thinking a political opponent could be poisoned with a lethal dose of radioactive polonium slipped into a teapot at a hotel bar!

 
I know, right.  it's almost as crazy as thinking a political opponent could be poisoned with a lethal dose of radioactive polonium slipped into a teapot at a hotel bar!
I liked this.  I'm not sure what it means (did Putin do this) but it sounds like something that actually happened.  

 
Smoking Gun: The RNC *was* hacked despite what Preibus says after all. The IT firm they - among many other GOP heavy hitters like McCain, Graham, Koch Bros, etc - used was hacked. Oops.
NYT:

When Special Agent Adrian Hawkins of the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Democratic National Committee in September 2015 to pass along some troubling news about its computer network, he was transferred, naturally, to the help desk.

His message was brief, if alarming. At least one computer system belonging to the D.N.C. had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,” a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government.

The F.B.I. knew it well: The bureau had spent the last few years trying to kick the Dukes out of the unclassified email systems of the White House, the State Department and even the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one of the government’s best-protected networks.

Yared Tamene, the tech-support contractor at the D.N.C. who fielded the call, was no expert in cyberattacks. His first moves were to check Google for “the Dukes” and conduct a cursory search of the D.N.C. computer system logs to look for hints of such a cyberintrusion. By his own account, he did not look too hard even after Special Agent Hawkins called back repeatedly over the next several weeks — in part because he wasn’t certain the caller was a real F.B.I. agent and not an impostor.
Podesta was hacked in March 2016 - so it was seven months that FBI warnings went unheeded.

My guess is that the RNC also received such warnings.

 
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No, this is how we get crappy governance.  The better choice is to turn Johnny Lunchbox and Mary Homemaker into more sophisticated voters.  I realize this is not easy but that's how I want to do it.
I am 100% on board this train, but it will never happen.  There is a shockingly high percentage of voters who prefer to follow "their gut".

 
Smoking Gun: The RNC *was* hacked despite what Preibus says after all. The IT firm they - among many other GOP heavy hitters like McCain, Graham, Koch Bros, etc - used was hacked. Oops.
Btw this issue was the same one presented for Hillary:

- Just because the emails/data has not been leaked/posted does not mean the Russians do not have it, and if they have it then the question is what would they plan to do with it.

 
One other sidenote on THIS - I absolutely guarantee you that anything Donald ever did in a Russian hotel room and several other places like on his phone, including voice or email, was bugged, recorded and captured.

And fyi or as a reminder Donald first went to Russia when it was the USSR in 1987.

 
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If you put out Economy / Jobs / Personal Freedoms as your High Level Platform, you're going to beat the Abortion / Transgender / Making-Climate-Change-related-companies-rich platform every single time.  James Carville is kind of an idiot but even he knew to pull Bill Clinton aside and say "it's the economy, stupid"
This was not the platform.  Lay off the Limbaugh and Breitbart

 
Btw this issue was the same one presented for Hillary:

- Just because the emails/data has not been leaked/posted does not mean the Russians do not have it, and if they have it then the question is what would they plan to do with it.
The DNC hack happened because Podesta fell for a phishing scam ( :D ), I wonder where the RNC hack will be traced back to.  I've got a weird feeling it's going to be a site with a female Japanese news anchor getting violated by an octopus

 
The DNC hack happened because Podesta fell for a phishing scam ( :D ), I wonder where the RNC hack will be traced back to.  I've got a weird feeling it's going to be a site with a female Japanese news anchor getting violated by an octopus
I'm guessing young boy porn.

 
This whole idea that Putin decided our president is totally off the rails insane. It’s one thing that the left-wing media continues to promote it, its another that people in high places give it legitimacy. It seems like all rational thought has evaporated.
It's not that Putin decided the outcome, it's that he/Russia influenced the outcome of an extremely close election. Trump's margin of victory in the electoral college deciding states was less than 100,000 out of over 136,000,000 million votes cast. That's less than .0008%, and of course he lost the national popular vote by over 2.8 million or a full 2%.

Not just influencing by expressing a preference for the candidate who was quietly and somewhat inexplicably changing his party platform to be pro-Russia and pro-Putin, but by violating our laws and national sovereignty. This isn't going to be just swept under the rug and forgotten about, regardless of Trump taking office in January. 

 
One other sidenote on THIS - I absolutely guarantee you that anything Donald ever did in a Russian hotel room and several other places like on his phone, including voice or email, was bugged, recorded and captured.

And fyi or as a reminder Donald first went to Russia when it was the USSR in 1987.
Yes and that's the real concern. How Putin leverages Trump with this is what remains to be seen.

 
Btw this issue was the same one presented for Hillary:

- Just because the emails/data has not been leaked/posted does not mean the Russians do not have it, and if they have it then the question is what would they plan to do with it.




 
[SIZE=13.0117px]Didn't Hillary simply say there was any evidence of her server being hacked? While IT security experts probably snort and bray at this assertion, no evidence has yet been produced. The RNC just got busted. Things beginning to pile up a bit for the incoming administration.[/SIZE]

 
How Putin leverages Trump with this is what remains to be seen.
Putin has been leveraging Trump since Day One. Trump knows that Putin controls his destiny, and he's doing everything in his power not to upset the bear.

 
It's not that Putin decided the outcome, it's that he/Russia influenced the outcome of an extremely close election. Trump's margin of victory in the electoral college deciding states was less than 100,000 out of over 136,000,000 million votes cast. That's less than .0008%, and of course he lost the national popular vote by over 2.8 million or a full 2%.

Not just influencing by expressing a preference for the candidate who was quietly and somewhat inexplicably changing his party platform to be pro-Russia and pro-Putin, but by violating our laws and national sovereignty. This isn't going to be just swept under the rug and forgotten about, regardless of Trump taking office in January. 
And it shouldn't.  The Dems need to be relentless on Trump.  Just relentless bait him into being himself.  Attack him.  Accuse him of treachery.  Label him.  That's the main thing.  Comrade Trump needs to be a real thing over and over and over.  Marketing and branding is how Trump got in office.  That's all he ever was.  A brand.  That brand needs to be tarnished relentlessly.  

 
[SIZE=13.0117px]Didn't Hillary simply say there was any evidence of her server being hacked? While IT security experts probably snort and bray at this assertion, no evidence has yet been produced. The RNC just got busted. Things beginning to pile up a bit for the incoming administration.[/SIZE]
And your typical Trump voters gives zero ####s.  Because they won!  They did it! 

 
It's not that Putin decided the outcome, it's that he/Russia influenced the outcome of an extremely close election. Trump's margin of victory in the electoral college deciding states was less than 100,000 out of over 136,000,000 million votes cast. That's less than .0008%, and of course he lost the national popular vote by over 2.8 million or a full 2%.

Not just influencing by expressing a preference for the candidate who was quietly and somewhat inexplicably changing his party platform to be pro-Russia and pro-Putin, but by violating our laws and national sovereignty. This isn't going to be just swept under the rug and forgotten about, regardless of Trump taking office in January. 
Arrogance and incompetence (and I’ll add greed of money and power as per usual) is the foundation of everything Hillary Clinton. This time it just happened to be her run for the presidency.

It’s simple. Trump ran to get jobs. Hillary ran to be the 1st woman President. Guess what the country wanted.

But liberals can never admit their own failings, so they have to blame them on someone else. That’s what children do.

 
Arrogance and incompetence (and I’ll add greed of money and power as per usual) is the foundation of everything Hillary Clinton. This time it just happened to be her run for the presidency.

It’s simple. Trump ran to get jobs. Hillary ran to be the 1st woman President. Guess what the country wanted.

But liberals can never admit their own failings, so they have to blame them on someone else. That’s what children do.
This has nothing to do with Hillary.

Do you just flat out reject the consensus of the U.S. Intelligence community that Russia was responsible for the DNC/Podesta e-mail hacks?

Set aside the dispute between the CIA and FBI over intent to elect Trump. If Russia is responsible for those hacks it can't be reasonably argued that they didn't influence the election. That doesn't necessarily mean the outcome would be different, but you'd essentially be saying that the Wikileak emails were inconsequential. 

 
I truly do wonder if this Trump disaster is an anomaly or a sign of things to come.  I mean, would anyone really be surprised if Trump refused to leave the Presidency after his term?  And his supporters would lap it up.  

 
Arrogance and incompetence (and I’ll add greed of money and power as per usual) is the foundation of everything Hillary Clinton. This time it just happened to be her run for the presidency.

It’s simple. Trump ran to get jobs. Hillary ran to be the 1st woman President. Guess what the country wanted.

But liberals can never admit their own failings, so they have to blame them on someone else. That’s what children do.




 
Personally, I don't think she based her campaign on that at all. I think she tried to run on a collection of things - race, gender, jobs, income inquality, et al - while Trump ran on two simple ones that are linked, immigration and jobs. In the end, some voters didn't trust her to deliver on that while they were willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

 
This has nothing to do with Hillary.

Do you just flat out reject the consensus of the U.S. Intelligence community that Russia was responsible for the DNC/Podesta e-mail hacks?

Set aside the dispute between the CIA and FBI over intent to elect Trump. If Russia is responsible for those hacks it can't be reasonably argued that they didn't influence the election. That doesn't necessarily mean the outcome would be different, but you'd essentially be saying that the Wikileak emails were inconsequential. 
On the advanced level, since the creation of the CIA and its clones, we have been in an almost constant state of warfare and destabilizing governments around the world. 6 plus decades of that crap and honest people debate about whether they were involved in the periphery of murdering JFK. Its beyond debate that they have repeatedly used drug and weapons trafficking to fund various black ops.

Before they existed, with the USA was much less inclined to go around the world doing that kind of thing.
I always heard that’s how we avoid another Pearl Harbor. I always thought the next people who considered a sunday morning sneak attack might look at all of Japan as a smoking ruin and Hiroshima and Nagasaki being nuked and feel deterred.

The intelligence community has become a shadow government, and is not a force for good or the American way.

 
On the advanced level, since the creation of the CIA and its clones, we have been in an almost constant state of warfare and destabilizing governments around the world. 6 plus decades of that crap and honest people debate about whether they were involved in the periphery of murdering JFK. Its beyond debate that they have repeatedly used drug and weapons trafficking to fund various black ops.

Before they existed, with the USA was much less inclined to go around the world doing that kind of thing.
I always heard that’s how we avoid another Pearl Harbor. I always thought the next people who considered a sunday morning sneak attack might look at all of Japan as a smoking ruin and Hiroshima and Nagasaki being nuked and feel deterred.

The intelligence community has become a shadow government, and is not a force for good or the American way.
So is that a no? 

 
On the advanced level, since the creation of the CIA and its clones, we have been in an almost constant state of warfare and destabilizing governments around the world. 6 plus decades of that crap and honest people debate about whether they were involved in the periphery of murdering JFK. Its beyond debate that they have repeatedly used drug and weapons trafficking to fund various black ops.

Before they existed, with the USA was much less inclined to go around the world doing that kind of thing.
I always heard that’s how we avoid another Pearl Harbor. I always thought the next people who considered a sunday morning sneak attack might look at all of Japan as a smoking ruin and Hiroshima and Nagasaki being nuked and feel deterred.

The intelligence community has become a shadow government, and is not a force for good or the American way.


How big of a cabin do you live in?

 
One other sidenote on THIS - I absolutely guarantee you that anything Donald ever did in a Russian hotel room and several other places like on his phone, including voice or email, was bugged, recorded and captured.

And fyi or as a reminder Donald first went to Russia when it was the USSR in 1987.
Yup. You better believe they have something big on him and will be sure to remind him of that whenever they want something. Very scary times up ahead.

 
On the advanced level, since the creation of the CIA and its clones, we have been in an almost constant state of warfare and destabilizing governments around the world. 6 plus decades of that crap and honest people debate about whether they were involved in the periphery of murdering JFK. Its beyond debate that they have repeatedly used drug and weapons trafficking to fund various black ops.

Before they existed, with the USA was much less inclined to go around the world doing that kind of thing.
I always heard that’s how we avoid another Pearl Harbor. I always thought the next people who considered a sunday morning sneak attack might look at all of Japan as a smoking ruin and Hiroshima and Nagasaki being nuked and feel deterred.

The intelligence community has become a shadow government, and is not a force for good or the American way.
So is that a no? 
You're expecting a lot from this troll

 
Just killing time between meetings. Hey how do you get the multi-quote thing to work? I haven't figured it out since the last board update. 


Only way I know is to highlight both posts.  Sometimes it comes up with a black box which says "Quote This"

@fantasycurse42 seems to really know how to work the quote function on this board
Yeah, when I do multi-quote selecting two posts I can get it to pull up like this but it loses the threading. Evidently we need Russian hackers to help us navigate the message board. 

 
Only way I know is to highlight both posts.  Sometimes it comes up with a black box which says "Quote This"

@fantasycurse42 seems to really know how to work the quote function on this board
Yeah, when I do multi-quote selecting two posts I can get it to pull up like this but it loses the threading. Evidently we need Russian hackers to help us navigate the message board. 
They probably sent some Psy-Ops guys here, saw we had DFSGuys and etc., then decided they couldn't do better

 
Just an observation.  Everyone is making it sound like Russia used some sophisticated coordinated cyber attack to infiltrate the DNC. 

Podesta's probably still waiting for a reply from the Nigerian Prince he was working with.
Actually the worst thing is Podesta actually checked with IT staff and they told him to click through the link, enter his password, download and away they went....

 
Yeah, when I do multi-quote selecting two posts I can get it to pull up like this but it loses the threading. Evidently we need Russian hackers to help us navigate the message board. 


They probably sent some Psy-Ops guys here, saw we had DFSGuys and etc., then decided they couldn't do better
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Вы, американцы, ложному дерево ... Вы должны слушать то, что сказал Сноуден о своем NSA
 
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Apparently IT sent an email with a typo. It said "legitimate" instead of "illegitimate" and to change his password. 
So they claim. What IT guy says it's an illegitimate link and then tells the user to click through it and enter password etc.?

eta - And btw same Apple Dumpling Gang has the FBI calling them and leaving them messages every week about hacking and they don't even think it's real.... these people work at the DNC.

 
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So they claim. What IT guy says it's an illegitimate link and then tells the user to click through it and enter password etc.?
I thought it said to "change your password."  

So if the scam was that you needed to click a link to verify/change your password, then I am sure that is what he did. Whereas the IT guy meant to change his exisiting password outside of the email. Still profoundly stupid by both the IT guy and Podesta. 

 
I thought it said to "change your password."  

So if the scam was that you needed to click a link to verify/change your password, then I am sure that is what he did. Whereas the IT guy meant to change his exisiting password outside of the email. Still profoundly stupid by both the IT guy and Podesta. 
This is the email.

I feel bad for the guy, but it looks like the phishing link was asking for a pw entry and the IT staff fell for it.

 
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