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Look in the mirror you old rascal . Your name ought to be spoons because you are constantly stirring the pot

Look in the mirror you old rascal . Your name ought to be spoons because you are constantly stirring the pot
What am I looking in the mirror about...you complain about people spamming this thread...but have no problem when its done here and elsewhere by your fellow Trump supporters.Look in the mirror you old rascal . Your name ought to be spoons because you are constantly stirring the pot
Good thing I don't take it seriously.How can anybody seriously vote for this? This isn't just a difference in opinion about politics between the D and R this time. Hillary is a seriously flawed candidate. But this isn't just incompetence that a vote for Trump endorses. It is ineptitude, incoherence, misunderstanding of facts and procedure -- it's almost as bad as Sarah Palin being president.
I'm pushing the button marked Trump as if I was launching all of our nuclear missiles. That way, when Shillary sends us further down the crapper I can blame the rest of you.Are there real people actually still considering voting for this guy?
A recent survey of teachers found many are struggling to reassure students, particularly those from immigrant and Muslim families, who are frightened about what a Trump victory in November might mean for them. (A new ad from Hillary Clinton’s campaign centers on kids as a particularly vulnerable audience for the presumptive Republican nominee’s rhetoric.)
At the same time, educators report they are afraid to violate school-district policies that prohibit political advocacy in the classroom. They also worry about alienating families that might hold divergent viewpoints. On the upside, there's a chance this could spur great civic engagement by young people—but at what price?
Im pushing the button for Gary Johnson...that way no matter who is voted in I can blame those who voted for the winner and mock those who voted for Trump.I'm pushing the button marked Trump as if I was launching all of our nuclear missiles. That way, when Shillary sends us further down the crapper I can blame the rest of you.
Gotta hand it to ya. That is the best option. Voted for him last go round. When Trump loses, I'm going to turn on him, berate him and call him a loser. I'll stamp a big L on his forehead in my avatar.Im pushing the button for Gary Johnson...that way no matter who is voted in I can blame those who voted for the winner and mock those who voted for Trump.
Same here.Gotta hand it to ya. That is the best option. Voted for him last go round.
Same here, plus I want to be able to look myself in the mirror.Im pushing the button for Gary Johnson...that way no matter who is voted in I can blame those who voted for the winner and mock those who voted for Trump.
Was just coming here to post this: Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s de facto campaign manager, accused Mr. Kasich of acting “petulant” for refusing to support Mr. Trump following the governor’s defeat in the Republicans’ presidential nominating process.Insulting Kasich in Ohio![]()
Honestly, is there anyone Trump can get along with? It's sort of required by the job.
Sure. All you have to do is to agree with him. I can only imagine the ### kissing and sucking up going on in his corporations.Insulting Kasich in Ohio![]()
Honestly, is there anyone Trump can get along with? It's sort of required by the job.
If elected, do you think Trump will run the Presidency just like he runs his corporations?Sure. All you have to do is to agree with him. I can only imagine the ### kissing and sucking up going on in his corporations.Insulting Kasich in Ohio![]()
Honestly, is there anyone Trump can get along with? It's sort of required by the job.
This is the same reason I'm Ridin' the Johnson. That way when Clinton/Trump really screw things up, my conscience is clear.I'm pushing the button marked Trump as if I was launching all of our nuclear missiles. That way, when Shillary sends us further down the crapper I can blame the rest of you.
I can't imagine he knows any other way. Christie caught on with the culture quickly and attached his lips to The Don's ### quicker than anyone. The sucking up in Washington would be entertaining as would the volleys with anyone voting against any of his plans. That's the part I would really love to see. Donald tweet: 'btw, senator Blowhard from (insert state) voted against my plan. Remember to vote him out in his next election. He's such a loser'.If elected, do you think Trump will run the Presidency just like he runs his corporations?
You are right. But I can easily see open revolt against him because of his "my way or the highway" attitude, even leading to impeachmentI can't imagine he knows any other way. Christie caught on with the culture quickly and attached his lips to The Don's ### quicker than anyone. The sucking up in Washington would be entertaining as would the volleys with anyone voting against any of his plans. That's the part I would really love to see. Donald tweet: 'btw, senator Blowhard from (insert state) voted against my plan. Remember to vote him out in his next election. He's such a loser'.If elected, do you think Trump will run the Presidency just like he runs his corporations?
You've basically just described the best case scenario of a Trump presidency.You are right. But I can easily see open revolt against him because of his "my way or the highway" attitude, even leading to impeachment
Here in New Orleans we had a "Trump" - former mayor Ray Nagin. He was a 'renegade businessman' 'not connected to the establishment' who would 'run the city like a business.' I have seen this in action. You are right, this will likely happen. As it did happen Nagin went to jail.You are right. But I can easily see open revolt against him because of his "my way or the highway" attitude, even leading to impeachment
Cruz is also, considering how Trump ripped into Cruz and also Cruz's father (Trump accused him of being in on the JFK assassination)So Rubio and Ryan are going to speak? Would love to see one of them man up and just tear apart the GOP and Trump and frankly any person that calls themselves a conservative member of the party actually allowing this ****show to get this far. Would be a great story. Let everyone see your prepared speech and all that and get it loaded in the TelePrompters and then just give a different speech finally being whatever is left of a voice of reason for the GOP.
If they did it right both of them could basically become the new ladership of the party and maybe it will finally result in Rience Preibus melting and falling back into the dimention he came from.
I don't think he'd show it. He'd settle for AG.Isn't Christie speaking as well. He was supposedly "livid" after being snubbed for VP.
I'd love for that to be Paul Ryan. Even as a liberal I had a lot of respect for him until he admitted Trump's statement about the Mexican judge was the definition of racism; and then said he was supporting him anyway. I think in his heart he'd love to do what you're suggesting, but I doubt he has the stones to do it. If he did though, he'd have my vote in 2020.So Rubio and Ryan are going to speak? Would love to see one of them man up and just tear apart the GOP and Trump and frankly any person that calls themselves a conservative member of the party actually allowing this ****show to get this far. Would be a great story. Let everyone see your prepared speech and all that and get it loaded in the TelePrompters and then just give a different speech finally being whatever is left of a voice of reason for the GOP.
If they did it right both of them could basically become the new ladership of the party and maybe it will finally result in Rience Preibus melting and falling back into the dimention he came from.
Why would Paul Ryan want to rip apart the GOP is an attempt to become a party leader when he's already on track among GOP insiders to become a party leader?So Rubio and Ryan are going to speak? Would love to see one of them man up and just tear apart the GOP and Trump and frankly any person that calls themselves a conservative member of the party actually allowing this ****show to get this far. Would be a great story. Let everyone see your prepared speech and all that and get it loaded in the TelePrompters and then just give a different speech finally being whatever is left of a voice of reason for the GOP.
If they did it right both of them could basically become the new ladership of the party and maybe it will finally result in Rience Preibus melting and falling back into the dimention he came from.
Perhaps the value of taking a breath and not yelling?For those who care to take a breath and not yell, I have a question.
What GOP values are not coming thru with the current nominee?
The anti-Trump GOP types is who I am asking. They seem to be upset and I guess I mistakenly ID Clinton supporters who are in fact just anti-Trump. I'm asking why the hate?Perhaps the value of taking a breath and not yelling?
If he had any honor and integrity I'd think he would much rather be the leader of a GOP not in bed with Donald Trump and the ridiculousness that the GOP is right now. But I'm an idealist.Why would Paul Ryan want to rip apart the GOP is an attempt to become a party leader when he's already on track among GOP insiders to become a party leader?
Because he is not a conservative?The anti-Trump GOP types is who I am asking. They seem to be upset and I guess I mistakenly ID Clinton supporters who are in fact just anti-Trump. I'm asking why the hate?
ThanksBecause he is not a conservative? By what definition?
Because he is full of crap? What politician isn't?
Because he has zero experience actually dealing with the people he will need to deal with internationally and domestically when it comes to the economy.
I believe Trump understands the economy better than you say he does. He is a graduate of one of the best IIRC, he's built a little empire on his brand name, I don't hate this part of his make up like you do. I'm not worried about him sitting down with foreign leaders, have you seen the Global Roster lately? Pretty sorry bunch of punks. The JV as Obama calls them all.
Because the government is not run like a real estate deal. It's not run like a soup kitchen either, what's your point? Obama had little experience with hands on management and it really shows at times.
Because he is the epitome of do as I say not as I do with many of his thoughts on trade. Time and time again we have seen the secret side of folks...look at Billy Boy in the White House, do as I say not what I do...c'mon now.
Should I go on? That's plenty to start
And because this election is not just about his nutty economic ideas, but the job requires a ton when it comes to foreign affairs and he does not seem to have the knowledge to deal with any of it...or even the thought to learn about things.
What did you think of the Ryan selfie? White out?If he had any honor and integrity I'd think he would much rather be the leader of a GOP not in bed with Donald Trump and the ridiculousness that the GOP is right now. But I'm an idealist.
Further than not knowing anything, I honestly don't think he wants to be President. He has stated before he doesn't want to deal with the day-to-day grind of the Presidency. Well, that is a big part of the job. He just wants to run and get the attention. Doesn't want to do any workSeriously? He's a complete babbling moron with zero clue on anything of importance and zero substance. If you're looking for more than bigotry and juvenile insults, he has nothing to offer.The anti-Trump GOP types is who I am asking. They seem to be upset and I guess I mistakenly ID Clinton supporters who are in fact just anti-Trump. I'm asking why the hate?
I beg to differ. Without The Donald we wouldn't have Ivanka.Seriously? He's a complete babbling moron with zero clue on anything of importance and zero substance. If you're looking for more than bigotry and juvenile insults, he has nothing to offer.
By nearly every definition of the word? Guy has been a long time democrat. Nearly every position of his has changed to make this run.Thanks
Your question assumes something that you can's assume. "What GOP values are not coming thru with the current nominee," presupposes that the GOP actually has values. It doesn't. Not anymore. The republican party doesn't stand for anything anymore. And the rest of your post actually trying to articulate what Trump has been talking about might look good in a post, but doesn't match with what he is actually saying - which is nothing of any substance at all. He is the very definition of a Twitterverse politician with literally no substance behind him. I guess we deserve it at this point. I would just like Ryan or Rubio to have a, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore," moment if for nothing else to see what potential leadership should look like for the second major party in our country.For those who care to take a breath and not yell, I have a question.
What GOP values are not coming thru with the current nominee? What specifically is not appealing to you? Your moral values vs the rest of society and the Barons of Wall Street?
I'm asking because I have hard time trying to figure out how the religious right ever attached themselves to the GOP or how that marriage started to begin with? Because if you are for lower taxes and explosive capitalism than you had to know the types of people at the heads of those ships, they weren't choir boys by any stretch of the imagination.
What does the Republican Party stand for because they seem to not understand the resentment that many in the GOP or fiscal conservatives that usually vote their way would eventually revolt. Some folks seem to not accept that many would be voters of the Republican Party want nothing to do with people prying into their personal lives. Keep your religion to yourself.
What many dislike about Muslim values and the way they run their politics in the Middle East...we have our own problems with those mixing religion and politics here. It's why so many stopped voting for the Conservatives as somewhere conservative meant you were a born again Christian and clearly Trump has shown that there are plenty who want to vote GOP but don't want to hear squat on religion right now.
What GOP values are being railroaded at the moment? I hear Trump talk about jobs, taxes, trade, what fiscal conservative or someone who values economics as basically the 1st thing that needs to run smooth before any of the social programs get tacked on top, who is not intrigued with what Trump might be able to shake up? What's the real harm in making those idiots in D.C. realize they can be removed quickly if they don't start working on programs that the average Joe in this country will start benefiting from? And it won't be new entitlements, it's got to be something people can believe in and actually work towards a goal in this country again.
It's not name calling, it's the simple truth. He's utterly clueless on everything. Just the greatest hits include defaulting on our national debt, returning to 1920s style isolationism / protectionism, providing nuclear weapons to the Saudis, leaving NATO, ordering our military to use torture and deliberately target civilians, and using nuclear weapons in Syria against ISIS. Those ideas should horrify pretty anyone with a functioning brain. The bigotry (which again, isn't just "crying" but blatantly obvious) is just the cherry on top of the sundae made up of stupid and dangerous.he has a lot of speeches on Youtube, I think you are being pretty closed minded. He says some foul things but there has been hours of his rants and quite a bit of it has some substance when folks are not stomping with their fingers in their ears crying bigot.
Name calling doesn't further the anti-Trump movement at this point and for a long while really, not understanding the repeat here.
Because he would appeal to millions of voters in the middle. If done correctly it could mitigate a lot of damage down ticket that Trump will inflict.Why would Paul Ryan want to rip apart the GOP is an attempt to become a party leader when he's already on track among GOP insiders to become a party leader?
Problem is Ryan endorsed Trump. He sold his soul.Your question assumes something that you can's assume. "What GOP values are not coming thru with the current nominee," presupposes that the GOP actually has values. It doesn't. Not anymore. The republican party doesn't stand for anything anymore. And the rest of your post actually trying to articulate what Trump has been talking about might look good in a post, but doesn't match with what he is actually saying - which is nothing of any substance at all. He is the very definition of a Twitterverse politician with literally no substance behind him. I guess we deserve it at this point. I would just like Ryan or Rubio to have a, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore," moment if for nothing else to see what potential leadership should look like for the second major party in our country.
Now we're getting somewhere. I appreciate you playing ball for a minute with me.Your question assumes something that you can's assume. "What GOP values are not coming thru with the current nominee," presupposes that the GOP actually has values. It doesn't. Not anymore. The republican party doesn't stand for anything anymore. And the rest of your post actually trying to articulate what Trump has been talking about might look good in a post, but doesn't match with what he is actually saying - which is nothing of any substance at all. He is the very definition of a Twitterverse politician with literally no substance behind him. I guess we deserve it at this point. I would just like Ryan or Rubio to have a, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore," moment if for nothing else to see what potential leadership should look like for the second major party in our country.
Interesting- Rubio's schedule has been fixed for some time as having him nowhere near the Convention.So Rubio and Ryan are going to speak? Would love to see one of them man up and just tear apart the GOP and Trump and frankly any person that calls themselves a conservative member of the party actually allowing this ****show to get this far. Would be a great story. Let everyone see your prepared speech and all that and get it loaded in the TelePrompters and then just give a different speech finally being whatever is left of a voice of reason for the GOP.
If they did it right both of them could basically become the new ladership of the party and maybe it will finally result in Rience Preibus melting and falling back into the dimention he came from.
You are simply taking 5 second sound bites and regurgitating them into your talking points tapes.It's not name calling, it's the simple truth. He's utterly clueless on everything. Just the greatest hits include defaulting on our national debt, returning to 1920s style isolationism / protectionism, providing nuclear weapons to the Saudis, leaving NATO, ordering our military to use torture and deliberately target civilians, and using nuclear weapons in Syria against ISIS. Those ideas should horrify pretty anyone with a functioning brain. The bigotry (which again, isn't just "crying" but blatantly obvious) is just the cherry on top of the sundae made up of stupid and dangerous.
Also odd that name calling by message board posters bad....name calling by presidential candidates is all good though.It's not name calling, it's the simple truth. He's utterly clueless on everything. Just the greatest hits include defaulting on our national debt, returning to 1920s style isolationism / protectionism, providing nuclear weapons to the Saudis, leaving NATO, ordering our military to use torture and deliberately target civilians, and using nuclear weapons in Syria against ISIS. Those ideas should horrify pretty anyone with a functioning brain. The bigotry (which again, isn't just "crying" but blatantly obvious) is just the cherry on top of the sundae made up of stupid and dangerous.
I'm pretty sure if I were in a social setting with him, I'd want to punch him in the face inside of 15 minutes.Honestly, that shtick is kinda what I love about him. Of course he knows it's a hypocritical position, but he's not gonna come right out and say it. He's a classic bull####ter, and I love that about him. Won't vote for him for president, but I'm pretty sure he'd be great over a few beers.
Trump, the "Uniter".Gotta hand it to ya. That is the best option. Voted for him last go round. When Trump loses, I'm going to turn on him, berate him and call him a loser. I'll stamp a big L on his forehead in my avatar.
Take a few minutes to read through these 141 things Donald Trump has said and done. This is not a person who should be anywhere close to being elected as President.You are simply taking 5 second sound bites and regurgitating them into your talking points tapes.
That's a very narrow view of what Trump has been speaking about. If it were the way you describe he would not have gotten the number of votes he did so it's not worth arguing with you. It's an opinion and that's the simple truth, not the way you spun it.
Those are policy positions pulled directly from his speeches, guy. His policy ideas aren't what is resonating with his supporters, it's the angry nativism and a middle finger to the establishment.You are simply taking 5 second sound bites and regurgitating them into your talking points tapes.
That's a very narrow view of what Trump has been speaking about. If it were the way you describe he would not have gotten the number of votes he did so it's not worth arguing with you. It's an opinion and that's the simple truth, not the way you spun it.
What they want is for the convention not to be a complete boondoggle so they can raise enough money to pay for it and some of the downticket races.Interesting- Rubio's schedule has been fixed for some time as having him nowhere near the Convention.
Ryan just gave a major speech in WI and he did not mention Trump once.
Its possible the party leadership is yanking their chains.... or they're showing up for a floor fight. Tom Coburn just announced he will accept having his name placed in nomination if drafted.
However what's clear by now to me is that the "party" leadership WANTS Trump. They have for some time. Preibus my have wanted him from the beginning, and they just took steps to threaten party members who would have rebelled in the rules committee.
Dont forget Cruz either. Regardless of politics it's always stomach turning to see men of supposed principle bend the knee.
Ahh, a protest vote. Worked so well for the Brits...I'm pushing the button marked Trump as if I was launching all of our nuclear missiles. That way, when Shillary sends us further down the crapper I can blame the rest of you.