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timschochet said:
I stopped reading after he suggested there might be a link between ISIS and Black Lives Matter. Really what else do you need to know? 
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I simply said if Trump can link them then he will, go back and read it instead of sticking your head in the sand when you don't like the POV of certain posters. 

 
Trump's ever-morphing, swirling, kaleidoscopic, fantastic, plastic, elastic, iconoclastic campaign platform

If you don't like something, stick around, it will probably change in a few minutes/days (though just as often it changes back)

A brief history of 117 distinct policy shifts on 20 major issues, tracking only his reversals since he announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

One of my favorites - When he initially refused to disavow Dukes and white supremacists, MENTIONING THEM BY NAME, than later blamed it on "faulty ear piece". That could be a Get Smart scene. "You think this could be the KKK, one of the oldest and most reviled racist organizations in US history?" Who is the KKK again, Chief?

 
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urbanhack said:
What specifically is he supposed to do that will single out people based on the color of their skin?
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That's a great question Urb and just for the record I realize you don't agree with my political leanings but I do appreciate that before you try and take a bite you allow for a simple clear question to allow me to share what I think. 

-In short form, he can't target a skin color but he can target those at poverty level and below, those on food stamps and welfare. He could have figured out a way with his education and background to encourage business to hire and pay a living wage. Obama would have had to drop his health care bill and that would never happen so now we have this. 

-He could have encouraged more small business to grow and flourish which in turn creates lots of jobs, instead he has made it harder for them to not only open but the mounting insurance costs are making a lot of folks just pass on even getting started. This is not good. 

-TPP, one of his last daggers he wants passed thru, will cripple this place and make things much worse. 

-The continued abuse of working class people. The ones who are left in the job market have become SLAVES and I don't use the term lightly. People doing the jobs of 3 because of the recession that I thought we managed to rebound or pull out of but this is not the case. Companies now expect people to continue working at max levels when most folks thought once things cooled down that things would return to normal but in fact they haven't.

-He could have passed Marijauna bills and new drug laws nationally to put an end to petty crimes and perm records for a lot of those folks who live in the inner cities and drugs are a way of life. 

-He could enact laws to encourage BOTH parents are involved. In order to do that, the previous suggestion I mentioned would go a long way so fathers are not in jail. 

-We must have education tracts that match job openings when folks graduate high school even if they are not perfect jobs these folks need a way to survive, they don't all go to college. Where is the shame in being a plumber, auto mechanic, restaurant manager, construction worker, where is the shame in grooming these young men so they can take care of themselves and provide for any future family members? So maybe in about 9th/10th grade we should stop with the history lessons for some students and get them going on a tract where they still can succeed in life and not set them up to be lifelong victims. 

Thank You Urb for giving me the Mic and this opp to speak before all of you. 

 
Bob Magaw said:
Trump's ever-morphing, swirling, kaleidoscopic, fantastic, plastic, elastic, iconoclastic campaign platform

If you don't like something, stick around, it will probably change in a few minutes/days (though just as often it changes back)

A brief history of 117 distinct policy shifts on 20 major issues, tracking only his reversals since he announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801
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He's aggressive and progressive  :D

 
Bob Magaw said:
Trump's ever-morphing, swirling, kaleidoscopic, fantastic, plastic, elastic, iconoclastic campaign platform

If you don't like something, stick around, it will probably change in a few minutes/days (though just as often it changes back)

A brief history of 117 distinct policy shifts on 20 major issues, tracking only his reversals since he announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801
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People can't call him out on his policies when he doesn't have any concrete policies. Savvy.

 
MoP, you do realize that the President doesn't make laws, Congress does - right? And for the last 8 years the Republicans in  Congress has made it their priority to make sure he doesn't get anything accomplished?

And just what is he supposed to do about how much businesses pay their employees? I know - raise the minimum wage! Oh wait, Congress.

Your entire list of complaints* is based on a non-performing government, not a President.

*Except TPP. I agree with you on that one.

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
-He could have passed Marijauna bills and new drug laws nationally to put an end to petty crimes and perm records for a lot of those folks who live in the inner cities and drugs are a way of life. 

-He could enact laws to encourage BOTH parents are involved. In order to do that, the previous suggestion I mentioned would go a long way so fathers are not in jail. 
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What marijuana\drug reform laws made it to his desk that he didn't sign? Same thing with the parents bit.

Do you understand that he can't create legislation, being in the Executive branch?

 
Ministry of Pain said:
That's a great question Urb and just for the record I realize you don't agree with my political leanings but I do appreciate that before you try and take a bite you allow for a simple clear question to allow me to share what I think. 

-In short form, he can't target a skin color but he can target those at poverty level and below, those on food stamps and welfare. He could have figured out a way with his education and background to encourage business to hire and pay a living wage. Obama would have had to drop his health care bill and that would never happen so now we have this. 

-He could have encouraged more small business to grow and flourish which in turn creates lots of jobs, instead he has made it harder for them to not only open but the mounting insurance costs are making a lot of folks just pass on even getting started. This is not good. 

-TPP, one of his last daggers he wants passed thru, will cripple this place and make things much worse. 

-The continued abuse of working class people. The ones who are left in the job market have become SLAVES and I don't use the term lightly. People doing the jobs of 3 because of the recession that I thought we managed to rebound or pull out of but this is not the case. Companies now expect people to continue working at max levels when most folks thought once things cooled down that things would return to normal but in fact they haven't.

-He could have passed Marijauna bills and new drug laws nationally to put an end to petty crimes and perm records for a lot of those folks who live in the inner cities and drugs are a way of life. 

-He could enact laws to encourage BOTH parents are involved. In order to do that, the previous suggestion I mentioned would go a long way so fathers are not in jail. 

-We must have education tracts that match job openings when folks graduate high school even if they are not perfect jobs these folks need a way to survive, they don't all go to college. Where is the shame in being a plumber, auto mechanic, restaurant manager, construction worker, where is the shame in grooming these young men so they can take care of themselves and provide for any future family members? So maybe in about 9th/10th grade we should stop with the history lessons for some students and get them going on a tract where they still can succeed in life and not set them up to be lifelong victims. 

Thank You Urb for giving me the Mic and this opp to speak before all of you. 
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Congress would have loved to work with him on all these things. Oh, wait. 

The guy the republicans picked for their nomination spent the last 7 years saying he wasn't born here.

 
MikeIke said:
MoP, you do realize that the President doesn't make laws, Congress does - right? And for the last 8 years the Republicans in  Congress has made it their priority to make sure he doesn't get anything accomplished?

And just what is he supposed to do about how much businesses pay their employees? I know - raise the minimum wage! Oh wait, Congress.

Your entire list of complaints* is based on a non-performing government, not a President.

*Except TPP. I agree with you on that one.
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:goodposting:

Someone needs a civics lesson and an extremely basic one, at that.

 
MikeIke said:
MoP, you do realize that the President doesn't make laws, Congress does - right? And for the last 8 years the Republicans in  Congress has made it their priority to make sure he doesn't get anything accomplished?

And just what is he supposed to do about how much businesses pay their employees? I know - raise the minimum wage! Oh wait, Congress.

Your entire list of complaints* is based on a non-performing government, not a President.

*Except TPP. I agree with you on that one.
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C'mon now, why do you think he has all the people in the Congress over to the White House? It's like a movie exec pitching ideas, eventually someone will bring a script he likes. Or a bill in this case. 

I'm sure he could have requested they do things behind closed doors. And maybe they did but Obama wouldn't budge or side on other things they felt important. Whatever the case it seems naive to think the President doesn't have a say or push or lobby for things to get done. 

Yeah TPP is a real downer but I'm happy a lot of people from different paths are uniting behind it or against it I should say. I like issues where people can get past their party affiliation. 

 
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honky kong said:
What marijuana\drug reform laws made it to his desk that he didn't sign? Same thing with the parents bit.

Do you understand that he can't create legislation, being in the Executive branch?
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But he can lead and push for legislation - find common ground. He hasn't, which is why he is only an average President.

 
honky kong said:
What marijuana\drug reform laws made it to his desk that he didn't sign? Same thing with the parents bit.

Do you understand that he can't create legislation, being in the Executive branch?
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He doesn't seem to be cracking down on marijuana in states that have legalized it.

 
The General said:
Congress would have loved to work with him on all these things. Oh, wait. 

The guy the republicans picked for their nomination spent the last 7 years saying he wasn't born here.
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The 1st sentence was enough, the 2nd is cherry picking his hot takes. 

Obama would have had to bend a lot to get things done, Billy had no problem doing it. 

 
bueno said:
But he can lead and push for legislation - find common ground. He hasn't, which is why he is only an average President.
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Explain to me how you lead and push for legislation when the people he was working with came right out and said that their goal was to make him a one term president. The criticism from the left early on was that he was naive in thinking he could work with the Republicans in Congress.

 
honky kong said:
Explain to me how you lead and push for legislation when the people he was working with came right out and said that their goal was to make him a one term president. The criticism from the left early on was that he was naive in thinking he could work with the Republicans in Congress.
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If Slick Willie could work with Republicans to get things done even when they were trying to impeach him, then so could Obama.

honky kong said:
Ok? What's your point? That would seem to go against one of MOP's criticisms of him.
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The point is Presidents have taken it upon themselves to determine which laws they will enforce and which ones they won't.

honky kong said:
This does a pretty good job of explaining Obama's attempts to reach across the aisle early on:

http://www.themodestproposal.com/?p=151

What do you think the chances are that a Republican would appoint Democrats to their cabinet?
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Depends on the Republican. How any Bush appointments did the Democrats try to block?

 
bueno said:
If Slick Willie could work with Republicans to get things done even when they were trying to impeach him, then so could Obama.

The point is Presidents have taken it upon themselves to determine which laws they will enforce and which ones they won't.

Depends on the Republican. How any Bush appointments did the Democrats try to block?
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1. This isn't the 1990s and the MO of the 2010 GOP had become one of obstruction by then. That was their entire legislative strategy. Just because Clinton did something in the 90s doesn't mean he could have today.

2. I don't have any idea what that has to do with my response to MOP when he said Obama should have created legislation, considering that presidents can't create legislation.

3. Look it up for yourself if you want the answer to that. I do know that the number of vacancies in the Obama administration is and was higher than it's ever been for any administration and it wasn't because he didn't nominate people.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
The 1st sentence was enough, the 2nd is cherry picking his hot takes. 

Obama would have had to bend a lot to get things done, Billy had no problem doing it. 
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I will agree that I think Obama could have been better at political manuevering. One of the reasons I have some hope Clinton will have some success - she can handle that stuff better than Obama perhaps.

 
Nothing from Trump about the muslim ban? I'm guessing KellyAnne has changed the access code to his Twitter account again,....

 
Half-Indian Trump supporter (and registered Republican) kicked out Trump event.

Anantha later tweeted that he would be voting for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson in November.
"I will definitely be voting Johnson on November 8th," he wrote Friday.
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Gary Johnson @FauxGaryJohnson


@JakeAnantha Sorry to hear about what happened, but we're glad you're joining the #JohnsonWeld2016 movement! Welcome to the revolution.

"I couldn't believe what was going on," he said of the incident. "Obviously now I'm very angry. I've wasted a bunch of time coming here. I may have wasted six months of my life supporting Donald Trump, who doesn't even let me come to his rallies."
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TheMagus said:
I don't get it. Why would Trump link BLM and ISIS?
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He would like to try and make a link to the type of people who support terrorism and if BLM can be classified as a terrorist group then he will do so. If he achieves that and they are hanging like an albatross around HRC's neck, that helps Trump with Independent voters or swing voters. 

It's not BLM is ISIS or vice versa, more of a Brand vs Brand and it takes one(Trump brand) to know one so I'm putting it out there as a path I see him trying to carve out. Maybe I'm wrong and I am not saying that ISIS and BLM are even remotely the same but Trump doesn't care about that, he wants to whip up drama and fear and dominate the news cycle. Hilary caught pneumonia and we haven't heard much from her since. Trump is surging in the polls right now, that's a fact. Will he be able to maintain that?

It seems he has an uphill climb in PA and MN? I thought MN would definitely get behind him when you see the flood of Muslims there and also they voted on a WWF wrestler for a governor so I was hopeful they were open minded. 

 
MoP, it's football season. Can't you go share your knowledge in the shark pool now and leave the FFA until...forever?

 
Hey guys, does anyone know how to delete emails and wipe a VIPs email address from archived data? Not for me. Asking for a friend.

 
Sammy3469 said:
No words...####### Skittles

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/778016283342307328
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The Know Nothing Party wants the ####ing Irish to stay in Ireland. 

When Ireland sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing the Dead Rabbits. They're bringing Bowery Boys. They're criminals. And some, I assume, are good people.

 
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3C's said:
MoP, it's football season. Can't you go share your knowledge in the shark pool now and leave the FFA until...forever?
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I miss MOP's weekly player profiles. I remember when Peyton Manning was going up against the 30th ranked pass-defense and MOP called him his "sleeper pick" of the week.

Joe and Dodds missed a goldmine of talent when they refused to put him on staff. 

 
tommyGunZ said:
George HW Bush voting for Hillary. 

:bye:  Trump
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I'm guessing the intelligence and military community is almost universally opposing Trump. Woolsey and Flynn -whom Obama fired - are two notable but lousy exceptions.

Hillary & Bush have more than a few things in common in their view of foreign policy too.

 
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