Official Donald Trump for President thread (3 Viewers)

[Jeremy]

My irony meter just exploded.  

What do you do with a guy this dumb?

There's that psychological projection again.  Every accusation is a confession.  Here's another...

CLINTON’S CLOSE TIES TO PUTIN DESERVE SCRUTINY: http://bit.ly/2dvfUPV  #VPDebate

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

For many pages now this thread has a significant lack of anyone actually willfully admitting their plans to vote for this dolt with just about a month remaining. Compared to the 2012 Romney thread, it's a stark difference.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

My irony meter just exploded.  

What do you do with a guy this dumb?

I wonder if Podesta told Kaine to go out there and interrupt Pence a few times early.  That way if Trump and his surrogates brought it up, it was an excuse for the press to revisit how many times Trump interrupted Clinton in their first debate.

Might be giving them too much credit here, but maybe they were OK with a sacrifice fly last night: Kaine didn't get a hit, but the aftermath suggests a run still scored on the play.

 

[massraider]

For many pages now this thread has a significant lack of anyone actually willfully admitting their plans to vote for this dolt with just about a month remaining. Compared to the 2012 Romney thread, it's a stark difference.

Meh, the ones in here are just here for the fight.  They've given up any pretense of defending him.  

 

[MattFancy]

For many pages now this thread has a significant lack of anyone actually willfully admitting their plans to vote for this dolt with just about a month remaining. Compared to the 2012 Romney thread, it's a stark difference.

While I didn't agree with many of Romney's policy ideas, I wouldn't have been super upset if he won in 2012. He at least had a clear head on his shoulders and could articulate what he would do. With Trump, how can anyone say what he would do? He clearly has no idea what he would do or he would be able to give better details of his own policies.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Here's a chance to use all this anti-Trump sentiment for good:

The guy who's been writing those TrumpLeaks tweets (started out super funny, gotten kinda stale but whatever) is organizing a Give More Than Trump fundraiser. The goal was to raise more for charity than the "billionaire" gave over the last seven years.  There was a record of him maybe giving up to $10,000 back in '09, so the goal was $10,000 for refugee aid, chosen for obvious reasons. As of right now it's approaching $60,000.

Best way to counter the hatred and negativity of Trumpism is by doing good

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I wonder if Podesta told Kaine to go out there and interrupt Pence a few times early.  That way if Trump and his surrogates brought it up, it was an excuse for the press to revisit how many times Trump interrupted Clinton in their first debate.

Might be giving them too much credit here, but maybe they were OK with a sacrifice fly last night: Kaine didn't get a hit, but the aftermath suggests a run still scored on the play.

You're not giving too much credit at all. Say what you will about Hillary personally, her policy, whatever -- but no one should argue that her campaign itself isn't professional and prepared. She's a smart and experienced politician.

 

[badmojo1006]

There are reports this morning that Trump is unhappy that Pence did so well: 

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/05/donald_trump_jealous_that_mike_pence_did_well_in_debate_reports_say.html?client=safari

 

[cstu]

You're not giving too much credit at all. Say what you will about Hillary personally, her policy, whatever -- but no one should argue that her campaign itself isn't professional and prepared. She's a smart and experienced politician.

Hillary telling Kaine to throw the debate by constantly interrupting in order to illustrate how bad Trump is sounds exactly like something she would do.

 

[ericttspikes]

Pence is a liar just like big daddy.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783645247247114240

 

[Gr00vus]

Hillary telling Kaine to throw the debate by constantly interrupting in order to illustrate how bad Trump is sounds exactly like something she would do.

That and having Kaine basically do nothing but state Trump quotes. It was a loss in the moment (Pence did come off better in the debate) but it keeps Trump's words front and center for another few days, probably giving some small advantage in the overall game.

I'm sure others saw it, CBS did a quick spot where a pollster interviewed a group of about 20-30 self professed undecided debate viewers from Ohio. All but one thought Pence won the debate. Only one of them said the debate changed their vote from how they were leaning coming in (not the same person).

 

[squistion]

And if you thought "Lock Her Up" was a bit extreme:

Mark Elliott‏@markmobility 7h7 hours ago

Indiana's Aurora Farmers Fair allows float depicting Trump executing Hillary Clinton.

https://twitter.com/markmobility/status/783604460404797440 (photo of Trump/Pence float at link)

 

[badmojo1006]

Trump's Former Accountant: Donald Had 'Virtually Zero" Involvement Preparing Taxes

So much for being a "tax genius"

 

[cstu]

Trump's Former Accountant: Donald Had 'Virtually Zero" Involvement Preparing Taxes

So much for being a "tax genius"

Fine, but he's still a genius about being the first to get to his mother's ovum.

 

[The General]

Trump/Pence crying about Clinton or Kaine being nasty and mean is pretty funny. Can they sound like bigger #### ayes with this? Very weak.

 

[The General]

For many pages now this thread has a significant lack of anyone actually willfully admitting their plans to vote for this dolt with just about a month remaining. Compared to the 2012 Romney thread, it's a stark difference.

There are stil polls showing decent number of voters as undecided  

wtf people. 

 

[squistion]

I'm fighting the urge to feel overly confident, but it's difficult for me to envision so many people lacking common sense and a conscience as to put him in the White House. In the end I think Hillary cruises with at least 300 electoral votes and possibly even 330+.

wheeeeee.

I thought that before the Iowa caucus and throughout most of early primaries, but GOP voters proved me wrong. And I still can't understand how close the race still is.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

 And I still can't understand how close the race still is.

Because a lot of people don't like Hillary. It isn't hard to understand. 

 

[rodg12]

I'm fighting the urge to feel overly confident, but it's difficult for me to envision so many people lacking common sense and a conscience as to put him in the White House. In the end I think Hillary cruises with at least 300 electoral votes and possibly even 330+.

wheeeeee.

You greatly underestimate the number of people who actually believe trash NRA ads like this doozy they released a couple weeks ago.

 

[The General]

Trump's accountant saying Ivanka was more interested in their taxes the little donald

 

[Thunderlips]

I wonder if Podesta told Kaine to go out there and interrupt Pence a few times early.  That way if Trump and his surrogates brought it up, it was an excuse for the press to revisit how many times Trump interrupted Clinton in their first debate.

Might be giving them too much credit here, but maybe they were OK with a sacrifice fly last night: Kaine didn't get a hit, but the aftermath suggests a run still scored on the play.

Kaine was a suicide bomber with a bomb strapped to his front and a baby Trump on a papoose on his back.  He was daring Pence to grab the papoose and save Baby Trump at risk of blowing himself up.......but Pence had no desire to save Baby Trump.  Instead.....he saved himself. Or...for those Biblical types.......

Kaine = Romans.  Pence = Saint Peter. Trump = Jesus.  

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Because a lot of people don't like Hillary. It isn't hard to understand. 

You know what, I really don't like meatloaf. So give me that plate of ebola-infected dog#### instead.

 

[Gr00vus]

Because a lot of people don't like Hillary. It isn't hard to understand. 

sort of. I think there's also a healthy element of my team or bust.

 

[massraider]

You're not giving too much credit at all. Say what you will about Hillary personally, her policy, whatever -- but no one should argue that her campaign itself isn't professional and prepared. She's a smart and experienced politician.

I think the Alicia Machado gambit showed exactly who's playing 3 dimensional chess, and who's playing checkers.

 

[TobiasFunke]

sort of. I think there's also a healthy element of my team or bust.

Yeah. I wonder if things would be different if Scalia was still alive.  I bet if he was a lot more conservatives/Republicans would be willing to sit this one out or even cross the aisle.

 

[Gr00vus]

Yeah. I wonder if things would be different if Scalia was still alive.  I bet if he was a lot more conservatives/Republicans would be willing to sit this one out or even cross the aisle.

I don't think it would matter. The R floor is locked in for the R candidate, no matter how awful that candidate is. That's what this election will show us, what the R floor truly is.

 

[honky kong]

sort of. I think there's also a healthy element of my team or bust.

I wouldn't call it healthy.

 

[rodg12]

I don't think it would matter. The R floor is locked in for the R candidate, no matter how awful that candidate is. That's what this election will show us, what the R floor truly is.

Not sure this is true.  Too much anti-Hillary sentiment to truly reveal this.

 

[Skoo]

You know what, I really don't like meatloaf. So give me that plate of ebola-infected dog#### instead.

I really don't know why meatloaf gets such a bad rap.

That stuff is good.

 

[Gr00vus]

Not sure this is true.  Too much anti-Hillary sentiment to truly reveal this.

I don't know, seems like there's a high degree of intersection between the R floor and the rabidly anti-Hillary already. I think those anti-hillaries outside that intersection  will go 3rd party or just not vote for Pres, rather than buckle under and vote for Trump.

It's a crazy double missed opportunity on both sides this time. If either party could have come up with a non-loathsome candidate they'd be sitting pretty this election.

 

[igbomb]

So from where we sit today, Trump needs about a 5% swing in the battleground states to have a chance to win the EC. That's a big hurdle to overcome from this point. Trump needs Iowa, Ohio, NC, Florida, Nevada and Colorado or Pennsylvania to win. Right now, 538 has Hillary as leading in all but Iowa and Ohio of those listed, and they are toss-ups.

 

[cstu]

I really don't know why meatloaf gets such a bad rap.

That stuff is good.

I hate the name more than than the food. In Austria it's called Faschierter Braten (minced roast) and adds chopped bacon.

Call it minced roast and throw some bacon in there and I'm on board.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

sort of. I think there's also a healthy element of my team or bust.

Yeah, but Trump isn't remotely conservative or Republican. That's what I don't understand. Look at all of the die-hard derpys on this site -- they've spent years arguing for pretty much everything that Trump now stands directly opposed to. For this year, they suddenly aren't big fans of trade, globalism, neocon foreign policy, and don't care about their precious social issues. By 2020, I'm sure they'll swing back to the original positions. It's really pretty funny.

 

[Gr00vus]

Yeah, but Trump isn't remotely conservative or Republican. That's what I don't understand. Look at all of the die-hard derpys on this site -- they've spent years arguing for pretty much everything that Trump now stands directly opposed to. For this year, they suddenly aren't big fans of trade, globalism, neocon foreign policy, and don't care about their precious social issues. By 2020, I'm sure they'll swing back to the original positions. It's really pretty funny.

The team is Republican. What it stands for at any given time is secondary to the R. Same can be said of die hard Democrats.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

It's depressing that there are so many idiots in this country. But, it's a given that the GOP nominee gets ~40% of the vote, period. Even a piece of garbage like Trump. A head of cabbage would get the same 40%, but it doesn't even matter. In between the diehard partisans on either side are the normal, common sense people who decide these elections, and the polling has been more or less consistently on Hillary's side throughout. In the end I think she ends up getting the bulk of the Johnson/Stein/undecideds too.

Hey, the head of cabbage would probably at least have the common sense not to viciously attack entire ethnic groups, religions, a gold star family, and a former Miss Universe.

 

[igbomb]

Yeah, but Trump isn't remotely conservative or Republican. That's what I don't understand. Look at all of the die-hard derpys on this site -- they've spent years arguing for pretty much everything that Trump now stands directly opposed to. For this year, they suddenly aren't big fans of trade, globalism, neocon foreign policy, and don't care about their precious social issues. By 2020, I'm sure they'll swing back to the original positions. It's really pretty funny.

For a lot of parishioners in my church, the Supreme Court appointees are everything. Many have no illusions that Trump himself is conservative, but feel that he is the best shot at getting Supreme Court appointees that have similar values.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Not sure this is true.  Too much anti-Hillary sentiment to truly reveal this.

There will also be Republicans who will vote Hillary behind the closed curtain, but aren't going to be vocal about it. Too much "crazy" in this cycle for it to prove any kind of baseline.

I predict Trump will finish even lower than what most online polls predict, because his core voter base exhibits the exact kind of fanaticism that can skew such things. Then we'll be subjected to four years of "rigged" conspiracy theories to delegitimize her Presidency.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

There will also be Republicans who will vote Hillary behind the closed curtain, but aren't going to be vocal about it. Too much "crazy" in this cycle for it to prove any kind of baseline.

I predict Trump will finish even lower than what most online polls predict, because his core voter base exhibits the exact kind of fanaticism that can skew such things. Then we'll be subjected to four years of "rigged" conspiracy theories to delegitimize her Presidency.

This is definitely likely -- he has zero local campaign staff to phone bank and take people to the polling places on election day. That stuff matters.

 

[Jrodicus]

Hey, the head of cabbage would probably at least have the common sense not to viciously attack entire ethnic groups, religions, a gold star family, and a former Miss Universe.

Yeah...I can tolerate those others, but he really crossed the line with that Miss Universe thing. 

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This is definitely likely -- he has zero local campaign staff to phone bank and take people to the polling places on election day. That stuff matters.

Yea, but he is encouraging people to watch the polling stations and make sure things are going ok. So voter intimidation basically. 

 

[Jrodicus]

For a lot of parishioners in my church, the Supreme Court appointees are everything. Many have no illusions that Trump himself is conservative, but feel that he is the best shot at getting Supreme Court appointees that have similar values.

There are a lot of rumors of Cruz being nominated if Trump wins.  That carries some weight with a lot people.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Yea, but he is encouraging people to watch the polling stations and make sure things are going ok. So voter intimidation basically. 

I hope that they actually listen to him. They'll get arrested before 9:00 am.

 

[timschochet]

I hate the name more than than the food. In Austria it's called Faschierter Braten (minced roast) and adds chopped bacon.

Call it minced roast and throw some bacon in there and I'm on board.

Can Faschierter Braten see paradise by the dashboard light? I think not. 

 

[Coeur de Lion]

There are a lot of rumors of Cruz being nominated if Trump wins.  That carries some weight with a lot people.

 Right, the American people love them some Ted Cruz.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Yeah...I can tolerate those others, but he really crossed the line with that Miss Universe thing. 

You miss the point. Again. If you don't think that that entire fiasco hurt him, badly, with women and Hispanics, you are even more out of touch than you've previously demonstrated.

 

[Gr00vus]

There are a lot of rumors of Cruz being nominated if Trump wins.  That carries some weight with a lot people.

Yes, this would be another reason for a never Trump vote.

Classic that people might vote for Trump so he could make a guy Trump referred to as "Lyin' Ted" a Supreme Court Justice.

 

[cstu]

This is definitely likely -- he has zero local campaign staff to phone bank and take people to the polling places on election day. That stuff matters.

This is a huge deal.  It's one thing for someone to say how they will vote on the phone, it's another for them to find a way to get to the polls.  I suspect Trump will have disappointing turnout and won't crack 60 million votes.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Like Ted Cruz would ever even consider accepting a SC nomination anyway. Just when you think that the Trumpkins can't bring the dumb any stronger...

 

[Coeur de Lion]

This is a huge deal.  It's one thing for someone to say how they will vote on the phone, it's another for them to find a way to get to the polls.  I suspect Trump will have disappointing turnout and won't crack 60 million votes.

Particularly considering how heavily his support is based upon seniors.

 

[cstu]

For a lot of parishioners in my church, the Supreme Court appointees are everything. Many have no illusions that Trump himself is conservative, but feel that he is the best shot at getting Supreme Court appointees that have similar values.

I've said this election is a must-win for Democrats since Obama won in 2012.  The winner of this election will determine multiple Justices and the balance of the court for the next 20 years.