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http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/15/washington-dc-marching-bands-skipping-donald-trump-inaugural-parade

Report: D.C. Marching Bands Skipping Trump's Inaugural Parade

For the first time in 20 years, no Washington, D.C., area public schools will be performing in the president's inaugural parade.

According to a Wednesday report by NBC4 Washington, a D.C. Public Schools spokeswoman said she was not aware of any schools that applied to march in the January 20 parade following the scheduled inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump.

At least one D.C. marching band has participated in each of the past five presidential inaugurations.

 
timschochet said:
This isn't going to help: 

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/what_gave_us_donald_trump_is_what_gave_us_dylann_roof.html?client=safari

The author, Jamelle Boule, is a well known liberal opinion writer for the Washington Post and Slate. I've enjoyed some of his pieces over the years. But in this latest, he makes a direct comparison between Trump and mass murderer Dylan Roof. 

Donald Trump needs to be opposed by those of us who disapprove of him in a rational and reasonable way. But it's predictable that some people are reacting to his win by becoming a liberal version of the Tea Party nuts. I want no part of that. 
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There are some elements of Donald trump that deserve ridicule...many.  

This is reaction is part of the problem.  We keep pretending that trump is someone whose ideology we just disagree on...that this is business as normal in political disagreements.

but it's not.  Trump represents a fundamental threat to our democracy, and outrage to some degree is warranted.  The normalizing nature of the media and people not wanting to express how truly out of mainstream this guy is, is part of what got us here.

he needs to be called out on many things, continually, and while certainly reason and good sense should prevail in the arguments, getting upset or angry is justified by many of his actions - past and likely future.  

We should maintain a simmer, but a few points of bubbling over only to cool back down to a simmer are unavoidable.

 
squistion said:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/15/washington-dc-marching-bands-skipping-donald-trump-inaugural-parade

Report: D.C. Marching Bands Skipping Trump's Inaugural Parade

For the first time in 20 years, no Washington, D.C., area public schools will be performing in the president's inaugural parade.

According to a Wednesday report by NBC4 Washington, a D.C. Public Schools spokeswoman said she was not aware of any schools that applied to march in the January 20 parade following the scheduled inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump.

At least one D.C. marching band has participated in each of the past five presidential inaugurations.
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Goodbye federal funding for DC schools.

 
Henry Ford said:
What do you think isn't going to happen in that quote?

ACA is the first item on Congress's list, and they're talking repeal without replacement;

Medicare privatization is the second item on Congress's list;

Treasury bills are at their highest rate in 8 years - inflation is coming;

I guess jobs might work out, but with inflation costs I'm not seeing how there will be more jobs showing up than currently.

Do you have some insight I don't into this?  Something I'm missing?
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Not convinced the dollar can continue to increase much more without destablising EMs.  The Fed will attempt to continue to raise rates in the face of Trump/GOP's irresponsible fiscal proposals, but I highly doubt this forward curve is realized. 

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Repealing the Affordable Care Act Would Cut Taxes For High Income Households, Raise Taxes For Many Others

In a nutshell, working class people would get a modest tax cut but pay so much more for health insurance it will have the next effect of a tax increase.

The top 0.1 percent of earners will get a tax cut of around $197,000.
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Like we're not paying so much more now?  Are you kidding me?  What world do you live on?  Obamacare rocketed prices into the stratosphere for a majority of us for premiums and deductibles.  Obamacare itself was already a monstrous tax increase for all of us.

 
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The Obama administration didn't respond more forcefully to Russian hacking before the presidential election because they didn't want to appear to be interfering in the election and they thought that Hillary Clinton was going to win and a potential cyber war with Russia wasn't worth it, multiple high-level government officials told NBC News.

"They thought she was going to win, so they were willing to kick the can down the road," said one U.S official familiar with the level of Russian hacking.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-didn-t-obama-do-more-about-russian-election-hack-n696701

 
MaxThreshold said:
Like we're not paying so much more now?  Are you kidding me?  What world do you live on?  Obamacare rocketed prices into the stratosphere for a majority of us for premiums and deductibles.  Obamacare itself was already a monstrous tax increase for all of us.
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Obamacare was created because healthcare costs were getting out of control.  Obviously it did not fix this, but nor will repealing Obamacare.

 
Dickies said:
Obamacare was created because healthcare costs were getting out of control.  Obviously it did not fix this, but nor will repealing Obamacare.
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Actually, repealing and replacing it will, but only keeping the no pre-existing condition and kids until 26 exception. Everything else can be flushed down the ####### toilet.

 
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MaxThreshold said:
Actually, repealing and replacing it will and keeping the no pre-existing condition and kids until 26 exception. Everything else can be flushed down the ####### toilet.
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Replace it with what?  If you allow people with pre-existing conditions and get rid of the mandate, how are costs going to drop?

 
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Dickies said:
Replace it with what?  If you allow people with pre-existing conditions and get rid of the mandate, how are costs going to drop?
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Replacing it with just about anything would be better.  But the good news is the GOP is on the case and promises something better.  

You gave Obama and the Democrats the benefit of the doubt even though they lied directly to your face so I'm sure you'll afford the GOP the same courtesy, right?  Maybe this time it will work out.

 
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adonis said:
There are some elements of Donald trump that deserve ridicule...many.  

This is reaction is part of the problem.  We keep pretending that trump is someone whose ideology we just disagree on...that this is business as normal in political disagreements.

but it's not.  Trump represents a fundamental threat to our democracy, and outrage to some degree is warranted.  The normalizing nature of the media and people not wanting to express how truly out of mainstream this guy is, is part of what got us here.

he needs to be called out on many things, continually, and while certainly reason and good sense should prevail in the arguments, getting upset or angry is justified by many of his actions - past and likely future.  

We should maintain a simmer, but a few points of bubbling over only to cool back down to a simmer are unavoidable.
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Blah blah blah. 

 
avoiding injuries said:
I keep hearing to allow insurance companies to compete across state lines. Makes sense to me to start there. 
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That might solve around 3-5% of the problem. 

But Max, like Trump, wants to keep the pre-existing conditions stuff and get rid of the mandate. How the hell do we pay for this without the mandate? No answer. Nobody has an answer because there isn't one. 

 
MaxThreshold said:
Yeah, you missed the rest of my post.  That applies to you as well.
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Not realized.  I criticized the Romeny/Hillary proposals during the 08 that were most similar to what the ACA ended up being as well as sacrificing the public option

Anyways, what I quoted was certainly laughable.  Just like when you complained about cost overruns and then proposed keeping two of the most costly parts of the ACA.

 
The General said:
Why didn't Obama do the across state lines thing. I'm guessing some politics was involved?
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In 2012, Ms. Corlette and co-authors completed a study of a number of states that passed laws to allow out-of-state insurance sales. Not a single out-of-state insurer had taken them up on the offer. As Ms. Corlette’s paper highlighted, there is no federal impediment to across-state-lines arrangements. The main difficulty is that most states want to regulate local products themselves. The Affordable Care Act actually has a few provisions to encourage more regional and national sales of insurance, but they have not proved popular.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/upshot/the-problem-with-gop-plans-to-sell-health-insurance-across-state-lines.html?_r=0

 
Slapdash said:
In 2012, Ms. Corlette and co-authors completed a study of a number of states that passed laws to allow out-of-state insurance sales. Not a single out-of-state insurer had taken them up on the offer. As Ms. Corlette’s paper highlighted, there is no federal impediment to across-state-lines arrangements. The main difficulty is that most states want to regulate local products themselves. The Affordable Care Act actually has a few provisions to encourage more regional and national sales of insurance, but they have not proved popular.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/upshot/the-problem-with-gop-plans-to-sell-health-insurance-across-state-lines.html?_r=0
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And this is the ONLY supposedly "cost saving" move that Trump and conservatives have ever proposed. Yet they want to get rid of ACA but keep the pre-existing conditions. And when you ask them how, silence. They'll figure it out later. 

 
Kudlow is for the tax cut because he believes it will spur economic growth. He doesn't believe it will shrink the deficit but is not concerned. 

But I would be happy with Kudlow if only that I can't imagine him supporting Trump's tarrif BS. 

 
timschochet said:
And this is the ONLY supposedly "cost saving" move that Trump and conservatives have ever proposed. Yet they want to get rid of ACA but keep the pre-existing conditions. And when you ask them how, silence. They'll figure it out later. 
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Mostly true.  But McCain had a couple of interesting ideas back in 2008 like funding HSAs (at probably too low of a level) and taxing employer benefits (which would bend the cost curve by shifting cost onto employees and assuming they make more rational decisions), although he did also favor the removing state lines bit. 

I agree that conservative politicians have offered very little since.  It probably makes it unlikely we avoid a much larger government single payer down the road if these hybrid market-government systems are uniformly opposed and not allowed to be tinkered with as we learn more.  I don't really mind that, but I'm not convinced it will be cheaper than one of these could be if properly implemented.

 
Russian hack almost brought the U.S. military to its knees


Russian hackers struck at the heart of the U.S. military in August 2015 by seizing the e-mail system used by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, CBS News has learned.

Then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey was alerted to the attack by an early-morning phone call from the Director of the National Security Agency, Admiral Mike Rogers. 

Now retired, Dempsey told CBS News in an exclusive interview that the attack was proceeding at an alarming speed. Within an hour, hackers had seized control of the unclassified e-mail system used by the Pentagon’s Joint Staff, the organization of some 3,500 military officers and civilians who work for the Chairman.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-hack-almost-brought-the-u-s-military-to-its-knees/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=32446094

 
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Slapdash said:
In 2012, Ms. Corlette and co-authors completed a study of a number of states that passed laws to allow out-of-state insurance sales. Not a single out-of-state insurer had taken them up on the offer. As Ms. Corlette’s paper highlighted, there is no federal impediment to across-state-lines arrangements. The main difficulty is that most states want to regulate local products themselves. The Affordable Care Act actually has a few provisions to encourage more regional and national sales of insurance, but they have not proved popular.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/upshot/the-problem-with-gop-plans-to-sell-health-insurance-across-state-lines.html?_r=0
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So nothing is stopping states from doing this? 

 
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