Grahamburn
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How's this going for everyone?
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***Official Doug Martin Bandwagon*** (1 Viewer)
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Nucker101
Footballguy
He's been an RB2 as expected so far and has a decent schedule the rest of the way. I'm still worried that Blount will get more involved(not just garbage time) and really hurt Martin's value. I'd look to package him up for an RB like McGahee or Bush if possible right now.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Pretty good so far. Rotating him with old man McGahee and Spiller (no flex, start 2). Gave LeShoure and Mendy each a turn their respective first week back, traded the former, letting the latter gather dust.Ain't sexy but it's 12-15 PPG in PPR everytime he has a good matchup. Don't expect him to get GL touches but he's a halfway decent RB2. Fm strictly a FF perspective, he reminds me of Kevin Smith or Matt Forte rookie seasons. Not likely to blow up, but the usage level dictates solid, steady production.
What other guys were included in your trade offer? I'd like to know what the Run DMC owner in my league will spring for.
sspunisher
Footballguy
I'm worried about his snaps, he was sharing a lot with Blount last week. He has a great matchup this week but unless he sees 40+ snaps I'd be hesitant to FLEX him over a better, full time option.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Interesting thread. Lot of folks bailing.
Seems like guys are worried about Blount, GL opps, playoff schedule, et al. No way I could get DMac (who has no serious comp and a favorable schedule. In PPR, I'm still a believer.
That said, I suspect I won't use him much late in the season. I swung a deal for FJax to pair with CJS, plan on nabbing Hillman when the bye weeks are done to pair with old man Willis, and maybe I'll dust off Mendy.
I don't see much upside from here on out, but I also don't think he's in any danger of seeing a significant loss of production this year. The Bucs committed to him from the get go, and IMO he will continue to be the feature back in between the 20s. Good enough for RB2, where I want unspectacular consistency.
Seems like guys are worried about Blount, GL opps, playoff schedule, et al. No way I could get DMac (who has no serious comp and a favorable schedule. In PPR, I'm still a believer.
That said, I suspect I won't use him much late in the season. I swung a deal for FJax to pair with CJS, plan on nabbing Hillman when the bye weeks are done to pair with old man Willis, and maybe I'll dust off Mendy.
I don't see much upside from here on out, but I also don't think he's in any danger of seeing a significant loss of production this year. The Bucs committed to him from the get go, and IMO he will continue to be the feature back in between the 20s. Good enough for RB2, where I want unspectacular consistency.
Ace zero1
Footballguy
He didn't share a lot last week. Blount did most the work in garbage time
Maggot Brain
Footballguy
I drafted Blount with my last pick in the 5th rd 2yrs ago and he helped me win the SB that year. This past year I was able to trade up to get Martin with the 4th pick. I'm definitely in the mix for the playoffs this year and ADP is my RB1, so I'll be holding to see how it all plays out.
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Maggot Brain
Footballguy
I'm expecting/hoping for a good game versus the porous NO run defense despite any bye week remedies they might have instituted.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Yeah it was far from a timeshare. We had people posting in the Blount thread laughing at his 2/5/0 stat line well into the 4th quarter. He finished with 7/58/1 in straight garbage time. Blount is a great pure runner and IMO should be spelling Martin more often to keep him fresh but my viewpoint doesn't coincide with TB's just yet. If it wasn't a blow out, we likely would have seen even less of Blount.Snap percentage followed by utilization (counts targets in passing game)..Martin - 54% - 17Blount - 34% - 7Ware - 15% - 3
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Is this called the "Meh wagon "?
Eh
Eh
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He's been pretty unspectacular so far, and he definitely isn't flashing at anywhere near the rate Richardson is.That being said, this offense looks like it's up and coming for the rest of this year and beyond.'Multiple Scores said:
You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Martin should have an excellent week against the saints.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think you would have a hard time convincing many NFL teams that a two score lead with 10 minutes left is garbage time.You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
austinball
Footballguy
Im hoping Martin has a BIG game vs the saints and then I can trade him and LBlount (also on my bench) for a solid WR1 as I need WR help.
I haven't been able to watch Martin much this year. As his owner Im a little worried that he sounds less than dynamic. If thats the case, he just happens to be very very lucky right now with a coach committed to running the ball.
Im going to try to watch him this weekend so I can make my own determination, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the kid for the rest of the season.
Martin's been my RB3, but with Goodson, Powell, and Wilson on my roster I m hoping one of them can be a solid RB3 down the stretch.
I drafted him in the third so Im not disappointed, but do wish he'd had more impact.
I haven't been able to watch Martin much this year. As his owner Im a little worried that he sounds less than dynamic. If thats the case, he just happens to be very very lucky right now with a coach committed to running the ball.
Im going to try to watch him this weekend so I can make my own determination, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the kid for the rest of the season.
Martin's been my RB3, but with Goodson, Powell, and Wilson on my roster I m hoping one of them can be a solid RB3 down the stretch.
I drafted him in the third so Im not disappointed, but do wish he'd had more impact.
Dought Man
Footballguy
His upside is like 11 points. No excitement or upside to D Martin..
Superdbs
Footballguy
Guess I'm in the minority, but I still think he has a ton of upside. DVR'd the sunday ticket short cut of this last game against KC, and he had a few really dynamic plays and was solid the whole game. Lots of people giving up on him after 6 weeks just because he's not Trent Richardson seems pretty short-sighted to me.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
They started running Blount when they were up 31-10 with 4:34 left in the 4th fyi.I think you would have a hard time convincing many NFL teams that a two score lead with 10 minutes left is garbage time.You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
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duaneok66
Footballguy
this.I watched the whole game - and he looked like a different player - more assertive, more cutting (he did very little cutting back in the first 4 weeks). Hopefully they will throw to him as well. If people were expecting Richardson then they were foolish - I thought he would outperform TR this year, but I am not that disappointed (and I was wrong obviously) with what Doug has done so far.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Which is ironic considering his YPC is actually better than Richarson's and their numbers are almost the exact same.
Hendo
Footballguy
Total deal involved: Eli Manning/Doug Martin/Antonio Brown for Philip Rivers/Darren McFadden/Kendal WrightGranted i have been starting Mathew Stafford all season aside from his bye which is past but Rivers is definetly a downgrade there im just holding hope Stafford will start to revert back some. My WR's were strong so i can take the hit there but to me McFadden is a far superior talent and a good buy low right now hope this helps.
It is when you are playing the Chiefs. Even more so when you are playing the Chiefs with Brady Quinn.Bottom line, Martin was putting up typical Martin stats until well into the 4th quarter. If Doug Martin owners want to get excited about it, that's fine. But eventually the cream will rise to the top.I think you would have a hard time convincing many NFL teams that a two score lead with 10 minutes left is garbage time.You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
For the record I don't own Martin anywhere and own Blount in a couple leagues but all of your stats are misleading. Martin had accumulated 131 total yards on 17 utilized plays to Blounts 5 yards on 2 utilized plays before Blount saw any type significant work at the 4:34 mark in the 4th quarter with KC up by 21. Of course, I agree the Blount needs more work but it's not because Martin sucks.It is when you are playing the Chiefs. Even more so when you are playing the Chiefs with Brady Quinn.Bottom line, Martin was putting up typical Martin stats until well into the 4th quarter. If Doug Martin owners want to get excited about it, that's fine. But eventually the cream will rise to the top.I think you would have a hard time convincing many NFL teams that a two score lead with 10 minutes left is garbage time.You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
oneohh
Footballguy
It is when you are playing the Chiefs. Even more so when you are playing the Chiefs with Brady Quinn.Bottom line, Martin was putting up typical Martin stats until well into the 4th quarter. If Doug Martin owners want to get excited about it, that's fine. But eventually the cream will rise to the top.I think you would have a hard time convincing many NFL teams that a two score lead with 10 minutes left is garbage time.You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
Hendo
Footballguy
Oh .... ugh wow where to begin here... Blounts the "cream" eh.. ugh lol good luck with that one
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Ff ninja is a troll. He provides nothing but irritating noise.Oh .... ugh wow where to begin here... Blounts the "cream" eh.. ugh lol good luck with that one
butcher boy
Footballguy
Guys stop arguing so loud. Tampa is having a team meeting in the next room and we wouldn't want to wake up poor LaGarrette.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
If he got more targets, I'd be more optimistic about his chances. I figure he's good for maybe 70 total yds a game...maybe a couple recep. He might score 2 TDs the rest of the way.
EBF
Footballguy
I'll hop aboard.
I think people have been too harsh on him and that he has a good chance to do better in the second half of the season than he's done in the first. He was a first round pick and has a good overall combination of power, quickness, and versatility. We saw some of that this past weekend and I think we'll see more of it as long as Freeman can continue to keep the offense on the field.
I think people have been too harsh on him and that he has a good chance to do better in the second half of the season than he's done in the first. He was a first round pick and has a good overall combination of power, quickness, and versatility. We saw some of that this past weekend and I think we'll see more of it as long as Freeman can continue to keep the offense on the field.
MCguidance
Footballguy
You know what is pretty funny? Doug Martin got 50% of his rushing stats in garbage time.Prior to 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter:'SameSongNDance said:
Martin: 10 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 2 rushes for 5
Up 24-10 with 10:00 left:
Martin: 3 rushes for 38 yards
Blount: 5 rushes for 55 yards and a TD
Dought Man
Footballguy
Trade him while he still has some value right now. Get rid of this guy. He will be untradeable after the next 2 weeks.
EBF
Footballguy
Looks pretty good here:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0ap2000000080629/RB-Martin-23-yd-run
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap1000000080049/Martin-42-yard-catch-and-run
Nice route on the catch. I'd like to see more of him in the passing game.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0ap2000000080629/RB-Martin-23-yd-run
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap1000000080049/Martin-42-yard-catch-and-run
Nice route on the catch. I'd like to see more of him in the passing game.
Dought Man
Footballguy
I imagine you could find positive clips for every RB in the league.'EBF said:
Drafted him in all 3 leagues.#1- traded him along with Torrey Smith for Percy Harvin after Week 2. (non-PPR).#2- traded him along with Spiller for Charles this week. (PPR)#3- unfortunately am still starting him as my RB #2. Am in last place.
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
I'm sure there are great clips of Ryan Leaf, JeMarcus Russel and Mark Ingram, the 3 biggest busts of all time. Posting clips at this point is futile. I do like Martin to have a great week this week, and I really don't believe his ceiling is 11 points, he looks "meh" but capable.
Shawnky
Footballguy
You have a serious obsession with Mark Ingram. He had to have ####ed you wife or mom. He's far from a bust, and wasn't nearly as high of a pick as those other two.Why are you such a sad, little man?
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Ingram is far from a bust?Please explain. (This should be good!!!)
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Shawnky
Footballguy
Well, for starters he has what......150 career carries in a year and a half in the league. He's in a rotation with 2 other running backs who have shown more than enough capability at the running back position. I'm not going to look it up, but I'm pretty sure he's never been given 20+ in a game. If he has, it hasn't been more than once. He was drafted at the back end of the 1st round, not a top 2 pick. He hasn't been given the reigns as a starting running back.What can't you see? While he might have been overhyped in the fantasy world last year, he has not shown to be a bust in the NFL. Would you call Tiki or Thomas Jones a bust? Look at their first few years in the league. Your obsession with trying to convince everyone he sucks and is a bust is a bit neurotic. Everyone on this board knows your stance, and most of us don't give a ####. You're completely annoying and offer nothing to this board. I don't know why NO drafted him to use him like they have. Based off his usage, there is no logic in labeling him as a "bust"Sorry for the hijack.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Seriously, please stop trolling. It's very annoying.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
DMC picked it up so he moved onto here.
