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**Official** Dune movie by Denis Villeneuve thread **UPDATE- Dune 1 back on IMAX! Part 2 release March 1! (1 Viewer)

Ilov80s said:
As far as I know, it's not a trilogy. You make a good point about it not having a true ending though Empire didn't and it was 3 years until Jedi came out. There were 3 years between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. 

Ultimately, the studio was not willing to greenlight 5+ hours of Dune after how poorly Blade Runner 2 did. 
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Which is nuts because that was a damn good movie. 

 
This movie made me long to seeing movies in the theater again. I'm not overly into Sci-fi or comic book flicks but this movie was simply a great theater going experience. Pre-pandemic the lady and I saw a movie prolly once a month in the theater. Probably saw movies she didn't want to every couple months with bros.

Not being tempted to surf on my phone, the iMax immersion, drinking a tanker sized drink with a vat of popcorn, the trailers. The whole thing was great. 

Saw at least 3 movies in the previews that unless they just get crushed in reviews I will go to the theater to watch: Top Gun 2, the new Batman (this trailer was very good), and the next Matrix movie.

Hello old friend, movie theater. It was good to hang again.

 
Tom Servo said:
Maybe this will help; The Politics of Dune explained.
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This made me want to watch the movie again.

I don't get all the effort to wipe out (I'm going to butcher the spelling and am too lazy to look up) the Attredies. Why go through all this if you could just kill them on their planet, isolate them, or just assassinate key members of their family.

I'm sure the book could explain this much better than the movie.

 
The General said:
This made me want to watch the movie again.

I don't get all the effort to wipe out (I'm going to butcher the spelling and am too lazy to look up) the Attredies. Why go through all this if you could just kill them on their planet, isolate them, or just assassinate key members of their family.

I'm sure the book could explain this much better than the movie.
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I thought the deal with the Atreides were that they had Sea Power on their home planet - thus tactical advantages that could not easily be overcome.

Put them in the desert, and they were not as invincible.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I thought the deal with the Atreides were that they had Sea Power on their home planet - thus tactical advantages that could not easily be overcome.

Put them in the desert, and they were not as invincible.
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That was mentioned in one scene. Just seems like if they could leverage the doctor so easy on Dune to betray the family, they could have done that on their planet. Not disrupted the spice production.

Lots of political intrigue in this story. Could be an amazing series if the right team tackled it. 

 
The General said:
That was mentioned in one scene. Just seems like if they could leverage the doctor so easy on Dune to betray the family, they could have done that on their planet. Not disrupted the spice production.

Lots of political intrigue in this story. Could be an amazing series if the right team tackled it. 
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I assume on their home planet they have a lot more defenses as well. Have to assume the entire army wasn’t sent and defense systems aren’t the same, like alerting for tons of aircraft/spaceships.

I do agree on the doctor, but maybe he had access to the defense (which the Harkonnen set up) systems that he likely didn’t have on his home planet.

Also, I think the Harkonnen needed emperor forces to beat the Atreides and it was likely much easier to hide that fact on Arrakis.

 
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stbugs said:
I assume on their home planet they have a lot more defenses as well. Have to assume the entire army wasn’t sent and defense systems aren’t the same, like alerting for tons of aircraft/spaceships.

I do agree on the doctor, but maybe he had access to the defense (which the Harkonnen set up) systems that he likely didn’t have on his home planet.

Also, I think the Harkonnen needed emperor forces to beat the Atreides and it was likely much easier to hide that fact on Arrakis.
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And an open attack on the home planet would be a major issue.  The Emperor created conflict between two families that already had issues with each other.  That move made sense -- I just didn't like the timing of the attack.  

 
stbugs said:
I assume on their home planet they have a lot more defenses as well. Have to assume the entire army wasn’t sent and defense systems aren’t the same, like alerting for tons of aircraft/spaceships.

I do agree on the doctor, but maybe he had access to the defense (which the Harkonnen set up) systems that he likely didn’t have on his home planet.

Also, I think the Harkonnen needed emperor forces to beat the Atreides and it was likely much easier to hide that fact on Arrakis.
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Yeah my takeaway, and I think Duke may have even mentioned it, is that they knew by going to Arrakis they would be vulnerable and exposed versus the safety of their home. But, I believe the suggestion is that they had to go because for centuries the pact is that if the emperor gives you a fiefdom you have to take it or risk all the houses turning on you. 

It seems a little far-fetched, given the safety of their home planet, that the doctor's/traitor's wife would be both taken and taken in a manner that nobody but the doctor seemed to know about it. Seems a little far-fetched that the Harkonnens could both get to her and get to the doctor fast enough before he could tell the Duke or somebody with authority in Atreides. However, I think it's generally plausible enough that one can go with the stretch needed to create the plot point.

 
Zow said:
Yeah my takeaway, and I think Duke may have even mentioned it, is that they knew by going to Arrakis they would be vulnerable and exposed versus the safety of their home. But, I believe the suggestion is that they had to go because for centuries the pact is that if the emperor gives you a fiefdom you have to take it or risk all the houses turning on you. 

It seems a little far-fetched, given the safety of their home planet, that the doctor's/traitor's wife would be both taken and taken in a manner that nobody but the doctor seemed to know about it. Seems a little far-fetched that the Harkonnens could both get to her and get to the doctor fast enough before he could tell the Duke or somebody with authority in Atreides. However, I think it's generally plausible enough that one can go with the stretch needed to create the plot point.
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I just figured the books fleshed it out much better. I couldn’t really follow the political dynamics in the movie (and there’s just not enough time to dedicate to it if you are making a watchable movie which I get).

That video that was posted in here explained stuff well but got me thinking.

 
The things I loved about this movie were the Art Direction lots of practical effects versus a bunch of CGI crap that never looks quite right, the Costume Design see above the different groups of people looked amazing lots of details in those costumes, and the music. Saw in iMax and was a bit buzzed but the music for the bad guys in particular was perfect.

It should sweep the awards for these categories like Fury Road did a couple years ago

 
Zow said:
Yeah my takeaway, and I think Duke may have even mentioned it, is that they knew by going to Arrakis they would be vulnerable and exposed versus the safety of their home. But, I believe the suggestion is that they had to go because for centuries the pact is that if the emperor gives you a fiefdom you have to take it or risk all the houses turning on you. 

It seems a little far-fetched, given the safety of their home planet, that the doctor's/traitor's wife would be both taken and taken in a manner that nobody but the doctor seemed to know about it. Seems a little far-fetched that the Harkonnens could both get to her and get to the doctor fast enough before he could tell the Duke or somebody with authority in Atreides. However, I think it's generally plausible enough that one can go with the stretch needed to create the plot point.
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What you have to understand about Doctor Yueh is that he has Imperial Conditioning; he is not supposed to be subject to influence from anyone.  The betrayal is shocking because someone with Imperial Conditioning cannot be corrupted.  Yueh himself knows he's going to betray the family and yet cannot stop himself.

 
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Tom Servo said:
What you have to understand about Doctor Yueh is that he has Imperial Conditioning; he is not supposed to be subject to influence from anyone.  The betrayal is shocking because someone with Imperial Conditioning cannot be corrupted.  Yueh himself knows he's going to betray the family and yet cannot stop himself.
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Interesting. Didn't know this. Just thought he was a good guy forced to do something bad to save a loved one (think along the lines of Officer Ramirez in The Dark Knight). 

 
If you can go see this on IMAX DO IT!!!!!!!

I was blown away at sheer beauty of this film and the Hans Zimmer’s soundtrack. Just fantastic. Going to watch it again on HBO Max no doubt.

I now have to wait 2 years till Part 2.......ugh. Well....it will be worth it. 

 
Todem said:
If you can go see this on IMAX DO IT!!!!!!!

I was blown away at sheer beauty of this film and the Hans Zimmer’s soundtrack. Just fantastic. Going to watch it again on HBO Max no doubt.

I now have to wait 2 years till Part 2.......ugh. Well....it will be worth it. 
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I watched it at home. May have to check out IMAX.

 
I think I've decided this is my favorite movie of the year.   Had to watch it 3 times to fully understand every scene, but it's a masterpiece IMHO.

 
Tom Servo said:
I guess what I’m saying is that this very hard science fiction; it’s nerdom turned up to 14. There are plots within plots within plots. There’s no shame in not understanding it.
 
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I skipped about four pages of replies.  I agree with this.

One of the issue with Lynch's version (which I watch whenever it is on), and this one for those saying it was boring, is the inner dialogue of the characters.  There is so much backstory and plot inside the heads of the characters, that it is hard to convey that to the audience in any other way.

I enjoyed it, and will watch it again soon.

It's good that they greenlit the second movie already.  I'm a huge ERB fan, and was so very excited for John Carter, which I thoroughly enjoyed.  Stanton had three movies planned for that, and we saw what happened there. :(  

 
I'll admit it...I was wrong. This is a good movie. 

Let's just get two caveats out of the way. First, if you don't like Denis Villenueve's style, this won't change your mind. I really like Arrival and Blade Runner: 2049 and this movie feels just like those. 

Second, the story of Dune is what it is. Which means it's kinda rife with political and spiritual mumbo jumbo that bakes self seriousness into the project. So if that's not your thing, this isn't going to change that either. But if you are going to make a Dune movie...this is it. It looks, feels, and sounds like what you'd imagine in your mind's eye as you read the book.

But considering all that...this is what a big movie should be. I think I might go to the theater and see it before it leaves (watched it on my paltry 75" tonight).

So anyway...I give this movie a 👍

 
Saw this on HBO Max over the weekend…

What’s the deal with them fighting hand to hand with swords in the year 10191? They have the tech to develop suits with sophisticated shields but they no laser guns?

And this trend of not finishing a story/movie after 2 hours 35 minutes is lame AF.

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eoMMan said:
Saw this on HBO Max over the weekend…

What’s the deal with them fighting hand to hand with swords in the year 10191? They have the tech to develop suits with sophisticated shields but they no laser guns?

And this trend of not finishing a story/movie after 2 hours 35 minutes is lame AF.

:thumbdown:
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It’s too long of a story to cram into a single movie. 

 
eoMMan said:
If that’s the case, then it should have been a multi episode series on one of the streaming platforms, imo.
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Then it doesn’t look or sound anywhere near as good and you don’t get the level of cast. It wouldn’t be anywhere near the same quality. 

 
eoMMan said:
Saw this on HBO Max over the weekend…

What’s the deal with them fighting hand to hand with swords in the year 10191? They have the tech to develop suits with sophisticated shields but they no laser guns?

And this trend of not finishing a story/movie after 2 hours 35 minutes is lame AF.

:thumbdown:
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The author decided to discourage laser use by making laser-shield interaction result in a random fusion explosion, sometimes located at the gun.  shields

 
Ilov80s said:
Then it doesn’t look or sound anywhere near as good and you don’t get the level of cast. It wouldn’t be anywhere near the same quality. 
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Gonna have to disagree here. Some bigger stars have done series on the streaming services in recent years. And let’s be real, Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya, Oscar Isaac are all great actors with big things ahead of them but to suggest they are bigger than a streaming series is a bit much. A quick example that comes to mind is Morning Show on Apple TV with Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Aniston, Steve Carnell, etc. 

 
Ron Popeil said:
The author decided to discourage laser use by making laser-shield interaction result in a random fusion explosion, sometimes located at the gun.  shields
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Okay, thanks for clarifying. So the shield can stop lasers but not a sword/knife attack? I would think a big old deer slug from a shotgun could penetrate it then..

 
eoMMan said:
Then why show the little bug drone thingies being able to kill people? Why don’t all these sword fighters carry around guns that shoot these bug drones?
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Because few people can sense them and they penetrate shields.

One thing that isn't super obvious in the film is Paul's abilities that he learned from his mother. One of them is his heightened senses 

 
eoMMan said:
Gonna have to disagree here. Some bigger stars have done series on the streaming services in recent years. And let’s be real, Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya, Oscar Isaac are all great actors with big things ahead of them but to suggest they are bigger than a streaming series is a bit much. A quick example that comes to mind is Morning Show on Apple TV with Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Aniston, Steve Carnell, etc. 
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One thing to have a headliner or two, another to also get Brolin, Momoa, Bardem, etc. Also it’s one thing to film in the LA studio near your house vs shooting in the UAE in desert locations for 9 straight months. Plus the budget would need to be ~$500 million for a single season. That’s a really tough project to get together.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Because few people can sense them and they penetrate shields.

One thing that isn't super obvious in the film is Paul's abilities that he learned from his mother. One of them is his heightened senses 
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You just reminded me of another thing….

Paul.

It’s year 10191 and we’re naming heir to thrown as “Paul”? Horrible.

 
facook said:
When my son Jonas was eight years old, he was an advanced reader, and enjoyed it.  I thought he was old enough and advanced enough to give a "big book" a try, so I found a used copy of the Lord Of The Rings trilogy and told him to read it when he got bored.  One day that summer I came home from work and walked into the living room.  Usually he greeted me with a big hug and rough-housing, but that day he didn't even realize I'd walked into the room.  He literally went from Hardy Boys and Patrick McManus to Lord Of The Rings.  It's one of my favorite pictures I have of him (he's now 17), and I hope it will bring you some measure of joy and fondness of what Chance must have looked like engrossed in Dune.

Jonas and Lord Of The Rings
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This was me. My dad read them to me when I was little. It took forever, maybe a year?,  but I was enthralled. As soon as I could, I was a big reader, I read them on my own. Great pic!

 
eoMMan said:
You just reminded me of another thing….

Paul.

It’s year 10191 and we’re naming heir to thrown as “Paul”? Horrible.
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10191 AG, about 20,000 years from now.  Besides, do Dukes have thrones, or would that just be the Emperor?

 
This need to over analyze every single minute, word, history, clothing, accent, etc etc etc of a movie or tv show baffles me.  It’s fake yo.  Of course there are inconsistencies, hell there’s inconsistencies in life.  Nothing’s perfect.  It’s entertainment, just unplug and enjoy.  

 
dkp993 said:
This need to over analyze every single minute, word, history, clothing, accent, etc etc etc of a movie or tv show baffles me.  It’s fake yo.  Of course there are inconsistencies, hell there’s inconsistencies in life.  Nothing’s perfect.  It’s entertainment, just unplug and enjoy.  
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:lmao:

You deserve better, yo.

 
eoMMan said:
Saw this on HBO Max over the weekend…

What’s the deal with them fighting hand to hand with swords in the year 10191? They have the tech to develop suits with sophisticated shields but they no laser guns?

And this trend of not finishing a story/movie after 2 hours 35 minutes is lame AF.

:thumbdown:
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You knew nothing about dune going in?   

 
need2know said:
You knew nothing about dune going in?   
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Not much, no. I remember the trailer when it was out in theaters and thought it looked interesting but had no knowledge on what it was based on. I really liked Ex Machina and saw Oscar Isaac was in this too so I filed it away as a “watch at some point”.  :shrug:

 
SWC said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I need to re-watch Part 1 like 3x.
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i have it on hbomaxer and i just watch it every other week or so the sinematography is so awesome it is easy to watch it over and over take that to the bank brohans
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I'm not that often but it's definitely been a go to the last year or so when I got a night to myself or something and want a movie on in the background. Wonderful movie both visually and in its overall plot. :hifive:
 
need2know said:
eoMMan said:
Saw this on HBO Max over the weekend…

What’s the deal with them fighting hand to hand with swords in the year 10191? They have the tech to develop suits with sophisticated shields but they no laser guns?

And this trend of not finishing a story/movie after 2 hours 35 minutes is lame AF.

:thumbdown:
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You knew nothing about dune going in?
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The first time I saw the movie ( a year ago, maybe?) I knew little about Dune. All I knew is that it was based on novels by Frank Herbert (I never read them, but used to put them away all the time when I worked in libraries) and that George Lucas allegedly ripped off several of the ideas for Star Wars.

Movie was so good, though.
 
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