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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (22 Viewers)

FFPC SuperFlex

I gave Cousins, Pittman
I got Lance, A Pierce, Shakir
and then I followed up with:

I gave Winston, Waller, Nico Collins
I got Metcalf, Albert O, Parker
Was the "Waller" contract/trade rumors driving this deal?
I like DK Metcalf, but his QB situ warrants a big discount
I think Parker will shine more in NE making this a nice pickup, but I think Metcalf will disappoint until Sea solves the QB
I am pretty high on Metcalf still. Geno Smith is going to pepper him with targets. The Waller contract situation wasn't a factor here, though he is (about to be) 30 and I think bringing in Adams is a small ding to Waller's ceiling and floor. I think this is selling high on him and I love Metcalf. Parker may not make my roster honestly, was just a throw-in.
 
Just went down post rookie/vet draft:

12 teams, 1/2 PPR

Gave: Montgomery
Got: Devonta Smith

My other RB's are Barkely, ETN, Mitchell and CEH
Other WR's are Tyreke Hill, Lamb, Higgins,; Rondale Moore was my #4 WR beforehand.
 
16 team contract league, non-PPR. I'm rebuilding.

Gave: DeAndre Hopkins (2 years left)
Got: Velus Jones, 2023 late 2nd
Feels very light for a guy that was a top 3 WR just two years ago. Yeah age is getting up there but I can't help but feel like if you'd waited till his suspension was over you'd have gotten more than this.
 
Just went down post rookie/vet draft:

12 teams, 1/2 PPR

Gave: Montgomery
Got: Devonta Smith

My other RB's are Barkely, ETN, Mitchell and CEH
Other WR's are Tyreke Hill, Lamb, Higgins,; Rondale Moore was my #4 WR beforehand.
Pretty fair, feels like a "choose which position you need more" type deal
 
FFPC SuperFlex

I gave Cousins, Pittman
I got Lance, A Pierce, Shakir
and then I followed up with:

I gave Winston, Waller, Nico Collins
I got Metcalf, Albert O, Parker
I don't like losing Waller here but I am still a DK believer and feel the hate this year has gone too far. I'd probably lean that way if you can handle the lost at TE and QB. I would hate to rely on Albert O all year even though he does have some upside.
 
Just went down post rookie/vet draft:

12 teams, 1/2 PPR

Gave: Montgomery
Got: Devonta Smith

My other RB's are Barkely, ETN, Mitchell and CEH
Other WR's are Tyreke Hill, Lamb, Higgins,; Rondale Moore was my #4 WR beforehand.
I don't like this at all personally but I'm not high on Smith at all. I would like to think you could have got a better WR for Monty but maybe that is who you picked.
 
Maybe it is time for me to cash out on Dameon Pierce
2 future second round picks (for a guy drafted in the second this year) for a guy that's been handed the starting job seems steep to you?
I can see both sides - on one hand, I get Michael Carter vibes and like getting into the early 2nd of next years draft + 3rd. On the other hand, you have a starter and lightning in a bottle.
 
Just went down post rookie/vet draft:

12 teams, 1/2 PPR

Gave: Montgomery
Got: Devonta Smith

My other RB's are Barkely, ETN, Mitchell and CEH
Other WR's are Tyreke Hill, Lamb, Higgins,; Rondale Moore was my #4 WR beforehand.

This is how you succeed in dynasty, nicely done
 
Maybe it is time for me to cash out on Dameon Pierce
2 future second round picks (for a guy drafted in the second this year) for a guy that's been handed the starting job seems steep to you?
I can see both sides - on one hand, I get Michael Carter vibes and like getting into the early 2nd of next years draft + 3rd. On the other hand, you have a starter and lightning in a bottle.
I do believe there is a chance Pierce gets drafted out of the job next season - but his 2022 production is likely more valuable than those picks. He makes a great player to flip for a first after a half season where he looks like the man.

Bottom line though is this trade is basically only netting you one future second for one of the hottest names in the hobby.
 
Maybe it is time for me to cash out on Dameon Pierce
2 future second round picks (for a guy drafted in the second this year) for a guy that's been handed the starting job seems steep to you?
I can see both sides - on one hand, I get Michael Carter vibes and like getting into the early 2nd of next years draft + 3rd. On the other hand, you have a starter and lightning in a bottle.
I do believe there is a chance Pierce gets drafted out of the job next season - but his 2022 production is likely more valuable than those picks. He makes a great player to flip for a first after a half season where he looks like the man.

Bottom line though is this trade is basically only netting you one future second for one of the hottest names in the hobby.
I don't disagree - I think Dameon Pierce will have a hell of a year, but if he gets pushed out of the starting role and you have a chance at Tucker, Bigsby, Evans, Mayer or one of the Tier 3 WR's who could have more longevity? Not a bad return - in my league he went 3.01. Now, if you can look into your crystal ball and get a 1st rounder for him mid-season... even better. I wouldn't say the return of those 2 picks is selling low though.
 
Maybe it is time for me to cash out on Dameon Pierce
2 future second round picks (for a guy drafted in the second this year) for a guy that's been handed the starting job seems steep to you?
I can see both sides - on one hand, I get Michael Carter vibes and like getting into the early 2nd of next years draft + 3rd. On the other hand, you have a starter and lightning in a bottle.
I do believe there is a chance Pierce gets drafted out of the job next season - but his 2022 production is likely more valuable than those picks. He makes a great player to flip for a first after a half season where he looks like the man.

Bottom line though is this trade is basically only netting you one future second for one of the hottest names in the hobby.
I don't disagree - I think Dameon Pierce will have a hell of a year, but if he gets pushed out of the starting role and you have a chance at Tucker, Bigsby, Evans, Mayer or one of the Tier 3 WR's who could have more longevity? Not a bad return - in my league he went 3.01. Now, if you can look into your crystal ball and get a 1st rounder for him mid-season... even better. I wouldn't say the return of those 2 picks is selling low though.
I didn't say it was selling low - I was just surprised that some one acted as if that was some great haul for him by saying they should seek offers after the trade was posted.

And sure if he struggles you won't get near that offer during the season. But if he's productive rookie (and with volume he should be) some one will pay a first. I've seen it with Zac Stacey, Tre Mason, James Robinson, Marlon Mack, etc. etc.
 
Maybe it is time for me to cash out on Dameon Pierce
2 future second round picks (for a guy drafted in the second this year) for a guy that's been handed the starting job seems steep to you?
I can see both sides - on one hand, I get Michael Carter vibes and like getting into the early 2nd of next years draft + 3rd. On the other hand, you have a starter and lightning in a bottle.
I do believe there is a chance Pierce gets drafted out of the job next season - but his 2022 production is likely more valuable than those picks. He makes a great player to flip for a first after a half season where he looks like the man.

Bottom line though is this trade is basically only netting you one future second for one of the hottest names in the hobby.
I don't disagree - I think Dameon Pierce will have a hell of a year, but if he gets pushed out of the starting role and you have a chance at Tucker, Bigsby, Evans, Mayer or one of the Tier 3 WR's who could have more longevity? Not a bad return - in my league he went 3.01. Now, if you can look into your crystal ball and get a 1st rounder for him mid-season... even better. I wouldn't say the return of those 2 picks is selling low though.
I didn't say it was selling low - I was just surprised that some one acted as if that was some great haul for him by saying they should seek offers after the trade was posted.

And sure if he struggles you won't get near that offer during the season. But if he's productive rookie (and with volume he should be) some one will pay a first. I've seen it with Zac Stacey, Tre Mason, James Robinson, Marlon Mack, etc. etc.
That's fair. I guess it comes down to perceived value - the Houston Texans aren't exactly an offensive juggernaut and I am somewhat reluctant to take RB's for a team that won't move the ball well, because it limits TD upside. Could he have a great year with all those carries? Yeah, it is definitely within the range of outcomes but it also might be a slow start marred by injury and you're left holding the bag. I can tell you're a gambling man, but Pierce's situation really hasn't changed since being drafted. I don't think anyone thought Marlon Mack was going to make Pierce disappear and by him getting cut it just reaffirms what we already thought - the Texans don't have many good players.
 
12 Team PPR SF TEP

Gave: 2023 2nd (likely early), 2023 2nd (likely late)
Got: Dameon Pierce
I like the 23 draft a lot and this could work out well but I think I'd hold Pierce for 2nd rounders when we know he is taking over that backfield now that Mack got cut. I'd say that is a good get for you for 2 2nds. Might be the last time you can get him for this price.
 
I was a bit surprised that Pierce trade was accepted without any haggling, but the "early" 2nd belongs to a team that looks like a trainwreck and probably is the favorite for 2.01, so maybe that influenced it. This is a startup league from this summer, so we'll see how things shake out but I'm pretty confident I'm competing year one. Pierce will bump Christian Kirk out of my final flex slot as my RB4 behind McCaffrey, Kamara, and Zeke. If its a hit, great, otherwise I figure I can probably get at least one 2nd back unless he completely flames out, and if things go well I figure I can decide whether to sell him for a 1st next year if he does well but I'm not sold for some reason.
 
- but his 2022 production is likely more valuable than those picks.
I'll take the other side on this statement. early 2nds in SF are quite nice picks in SFlex if the QB class is deep, which 2023 is supposed to be.
And what sort of numbers are we expecting from Pierce in Houston? I think he looks good. But he's still the starter on a bad offense who probably cedes receiving work to Burkhead. That doesn't scream difference maker to me this season.
 
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- but his 2022 production is likely more valuable than those picks.
I'll take the other side on this statement. early 2nds in SF are quite nice picks in SFlex if the QB class is deep, which 2023 is supposed to be.
And what sort of numbers are we expecting from Pierce in Houston? I think he looks good. But he's still the starter on a bad offense who probably cedes receiving work to Burkhead. That doesn't scream difference maker to me this season.
I seem to always miss SF designations so that does change things, sure.
I just see a ton of volume for Pierce (who I don’t own in any league so not pimping him) and volume generally leads to production even when a back isn’t necessarily elite.
 
12 team PPR dynasty league

Gave: Hardman
Got: Ertz

felt like a no brainer since Gesicki was my only start worthy TE and I have really good WR depth (Jefferson, McLaurin, Evans, Diontae Johnson, Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Doubs, Campbell)
 
12-team, PPR, QRRWWFKD

Team A got:
Jahan Dotson
Jordan Mason

Team B got:
2023 first round pick, expected late
Trey Sermon
Team A FLEECED team B. I mean, I worry about Team B's bottom. That's got to hurt really really bad, ;)
You think B got fleeced? I would say the other way around. I'd much rather have the 23 1st than both Dotson and Mason. Sermon isn't worth much unless someone else picks him up but the 23 1st is worth more than all 3 of the other players in this trade easily.
 
12 team PPR dynasty league

Gave: Hardman
Got: Ertz

felt like a no brainer since Gesicki was my only start worthy TE and I have really good WR depth (Jefferson, McLaurin, Evans, Diontae Johnson, Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Doubs, Campbell)
I'd have made that trade easily if I felt like I was a competing team. Hardman is what we thought he was really and Ertz is still a good TE.
 
12-team, PPR, QRRWWFKD

Team A got:
Jahan Dotson
Jordan Mason

Team B got:
2023 first round pick, expected late
Trey Sermon
Team A FLEECED team B. I mean, I worry about Team B's bottom. That's got to hurt really really bad, ;)
You think B got fleeced? I would say the other way around. I'd much rather have the 23 1st than both Dotson and Mason. Sermon isn't worth much unless someone else picks him up but the 23 1st is worth more than all 3 of the other players in this trade easily.
I’m sure he meant it the other way around. The team giving up the 2023 1st got fleeced. .
 
12-team, PPR, QRRWWFKD

Team A got:
Jahan Dotson
Jordan Mason

Team B got:
2023 first round pick, expected late
Trey Sermon
Team A FLEECED team B. I mean, I worry about Team B's bottom. That's got to hurt really really bad, ;)
You think B got fleeced? I would say the other way around. I'd much rather have the 23 1st than both Dotson and Mason. Sermon isn't worth much unless someone else picks him up but the 23 1st is worth more than all 3 of the other players in this trade easily.
I’m sure he meant it the other way around. The team giving up the 2023 1st got fleeced. .
I like Dotson but what’s his upside really? I literally just picked up Mason for free this morning - I can’t see the logic in giving up a valued 2023 1st for that. It’s remarkable really.
 
12-team, PPR, QRRWWFKD

Team A got:
Jahan Dotson
Jordan Mason

Team B got:
2023 first round pick, expected late
Trey Sermon
I have no idea what team A was thinking. Must be a n00b someone took advantage of.
Somebody who values firsts equally across years maybe? "2023 late first is probably equal to the guy taken at 1.11 this year, so why not pull that trigger and get the player now instead of waiting."
 
12-team, PPR, QRRWWFKD

Team A got:
Jahan Dotson
Jordan Mason

Team B got:
2023 first round pick, expected late
Trey Sermon
I have no idea what team A was thinking. Must be a n00b someone took advantage of.
Somebody who values firsts equally across years maybe? "2023 late first is probably equal to the guy taken at 1.11 this year, so why not pull that trigger and get the player now instead of waiting."
Stinkin thinkin. The 2021 1st is worth far more than both of those players.
 
On the Dotson+Mason for first+Sermon trade: I was team B. The other guy is actually a big time wheel and dealer and has a great team ... for what it's worth, he has Mitchell and Jeff Wilson. Also he doesn't like picks, always trades them, and is kind of the type to expect his own pick to be the 12 spot every single year. But hey if you have a flukey bad game in the first round of the playoffs and lose, that's the 6, 7, or 8 spot. Shrug! Never know.
 
FFPC (regular, NOT superflex)

Kyle Pitts and Melvin Gordon.
For.
Dallas Goedert, Jameson Williams, future 1st and 2nd (both picks could really be anywhere).
 
FFPC super flex. Roster cutdown induced.

Gave
D. London and Jamal Williams

Got
2023 1st and 3rd.

I stepped aside and partner made the deal. I’m actually fine with the London aspect, but I do like Jamaal better than the 3rd.
 
12 team ppr Superflex - QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FL/FL/FL/SF

Team A Gives
2023 1st (likely late)
M.Sanders

Team B Gives
Mike Williams
CEH
2023 3rd (likely early)
 

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