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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (22 Viewers)

People say this all the time but it depends on the 1sts.

Here I give you picks 10, 11, 12 this year for Chase you taking that ?  That's 3 1st.

Or even if I gave you picks 7, 9 and 11 are you taking that for Jefferson or Chase or Taylor ?

I think not.

Also what if they are 3 projected late 2023 1st.  You can't always project them but in most leagues sometimes you can tell if a team will be playoff or not.

I have traded 3 1st round picks + a few times in my league once it worked out (Got Tomlinson in his prime) the other did not work out (Got Priest Holmes then he promptly broke his hip)

Also This year I basically gave up 3 1st to get Chase everyone on here said I won the trade.

I gave but Breece Hall, Skyy Moore and 2.01 for Chase. 

I took Hall 1.01, Moore went 1.09 plus the 2.01.  

Hall is worth at least 2 1st round picks considering he is 1.01 and goes in the 10-15 in startups.

So I gave up more than 3 1st in value for Chase a few weeks ago not 1 person on here said they would take the Hall side that I can recall.
Yeah, but he gave up four 2023 1sts, two 2nds, and another 1st.  Let's not forget the great MILES SANDERS.

Four 2023 1st round picks

Two 2023 2nd round picks

2024 1st round pick

RB Miles Sanders

 
People say this all the time but it depends on the 1sts.

Here I give you picks 10, 11, 12 this year for Chase you taking that ?  That's 3 1st.

Or even if I gave you picks 7, 9 and 11 are you taking that for Jefferson or Chase or Taylor ?
he did specifically say “ definitely 2023 1sts”

and yes, I will take 2023 picks 7, n9, and 11 for Chase.  In 1Qb or SF.

I can always trade those pics for other things. 2023 pics are quite valuable right now. 

 
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he did specifically say “ definitely 2023 1sts”

and yes, I will take 2023 picks 7, n9, and 11 for Chase.  In 1Qb or SF.

I can always trade those pics for other things. 2023 pics are quite valuable right now. 
No way in hell I take picks 7, 9, and 11 for Chase.  You might as well be playing for picks every year instead of stud young WRs.  Last I checked Chase was only in his 2nd year.  Now if those picks were two of the top three, OK, but it's not in that scenario.  To me there are the big 5 in 2023.  Robinson, JSN, Boutte, Gibbs, and Evans.  After that, you might as well keep Chase.

 
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No way in hell I take picks 7, 9, and 11 for Chase.  You might as well be playing for picks every year instead of stud young WRs.  Last I checked Chase was only in his 2nd year.  Now if those picks were two of the top three, OK, but it's not in that scenario.  To me there are the big 5 in 2023.  Robinson, JSN, Boutte, Gibbs, and Evans.  After that, you might as well keep Chase.
Each to their own. You could likely flip those picks for valuable assets.  Also I include Michael Mayer in that group, as well as Evans, Tucker, and likely Tank. 

 
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I like the Chase side. Mostly because I like the odds of Burrow having longevity over Cousins. Getting the pick is a nice balancing piece. It’s fair. I’d want Chase. 
Definitely agree with the bolded part.  Kind of offset for me in the fact that he has Higgins to share the wealth with. Love them both, but feel Jefferson will be more of a target monster.

We will see 

 
Definitely agree with the bolded part.  Kind of offset for me in the fact that he has Higgins to share the wealth with. Love them both, but feel Jefferson will be more of a target monster.

We will see 
Yeah. I mean, it’s incredibly close. Splitting hairs almost. Jefferson is likely QB-proof, but it’s hard to say that before the Vikings have a replacement for Cousins. 

 
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Each to their own. You could likely flip those picks for valuable assets.  Also I include Michael Mayer in that group, as well as Evans, Tucker, and likely Tank. 
Nope, not including a TE in that group, and especially the guy with the better name than he is as a player.  Evans was in that group of 5.  Tucker is a wildcard.  You already have arguably the best WR in Chase and he’s very young, so why chase Chase with picks 7, 9, and 11?  You sound like one of those guys that has to have a lot of picks every year, even at the expense of a stud you drafted last year.  People like that play for the draft instead of a title.

 
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100%

It took me a year to accumulate 6. Every one was an extended negotiation with multiple offers back & forth, like pulling teeth.

The JJ owner must have melted his keyboard accepting this so fast. 
Yes I accepted I fairly quickly. I was Team A. 
 

I was still torn about it because I probably could have competed starting Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, and Diontae every week. Even with my lack of rbs. I could have traded Hollywood for rb help. 

 
Yes I accepted I fairly quickly. I was Team A. 
 

I was still torn about it because I probably could have competed starting Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, and Diontae every week. Even with my lack of rbs. I could have traded Hollywood for rb help. 
My God. This was offered it to you? I would need a moist towelette after excepting that trade.

 
Yes I accepted I fairly quickly. I was Team A. 
 

I was still torn about it because I probably could have competed starting Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, and Diontae every week. Even with my lack of rbs. I could have traded Hollywood for rb help. 
Wow. So you’re the lucky guy who got all of those picks. Just amazing. Just turn 1 of those 4000 draft picks into a win now RB like Zeke or maybe Aaron Jones if you feel like you can’t compete to the Chip this year. So much draft capital to play with. Sheesh. 
 

and condolences on your league folding end of this year ;)   

 
Yeah, would love some backstory on the 2 teams involved, @Smokin Okie
I was a playoff team last year and was entering this year with a solid team. 

Kyler
Michel
Henderson
Jefferson
Lamb
Waddle
D Johnson
Hollywood
Ertz

My RBs are not very good but I could probably still compete with the WRs

Other team lost in the championship last year and is going all in for one more run this year.  He now had Adams, Kupp, and Jefferson to start.  I think he’s weak at RB and now he doesn’t have any assets (picks) to trade during the year.  I think he would have been better off trading off the picks separately during the season.  

 
i am curious - was anyone in the league upset by this deal? I would express some opinions, were I in this league. 
Nobody has complained about it yet. I think they know the other guy doesn’t have any other assets to improve now so they’re ok with it lol. He’s been in the championship the last two years and still hasn’t won lol. 
 

it’s a solid group of guys and we’re going into year 6 together with no dropouts. 

 
Smokin Okie said:
Nobody has complained about it yet. I think they know the other guy doesn’t have any other assets to improve now so they’re ok with it lol. He’s been in the championship the last two years and still hasn’t won lol. 
 

it’s a solid group of guys and we’re going into year 6 together with no dropouts. 
It’s just such a monumental investment in one player. I predict a terrible future for him. Not to mention if JJ pulls/strains a [insert muscle/tendon/joint here] and misses any time, yikes. 

So pure desperation play to push all-in on a ‘ship?  Did JJ give him a legit shot at winning it all this year? 

I can’t believe someone who’s been successful would pay that.

I dream of trades like this. I received ~25% less for Mahomes in SF. You, sir or madame, are my hero. 

 
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JohnnyU said:
I was responding to his post that mentioned 1QB league
I said either format, yes.

I still feel that way.

Not sure why you’re disparaging Meyer. I’ve read he may be the next Kittle. He’s shown skills. AND he almost has the same name as the dude in Friday the 13th. :lol:  

 
JoeJoe88 said:
If SF or 2QB you gotta at least have Bryce and Stroud in there as well considering both are projected top-3 picks. 
Even in 1 QB leagues I have to believe one of those dudes will go top 12 if they land a “QB of the future” gig. 

 
Smokin Okie said:
 I think he would have been better off trading off the picks separately during the season.  
Desperation is never pretty.

i know trade calcs get a lot of hate around here, but team B really, really, reeeeaaaly coulda use a glance at one before offering this. 

 
14 tm 1 QB 1rb 2wr 1 te 2 flex PPR IDP 1DL 2LB 2DB 1 Flex been around since 2004

i was offered and took:

Trubiskey, M.Williams, Clowney

Gave:

Mariota, Chark, Burns

Really not sure what he was gunning for. Mariota prob has a better hold on his spot than Trubisky but BU for both teams. Burns a minor upgrade at DL for him, but my #2 guy.  I had been looking for a #3 WR, I love to have M.Williams. I had been trying to package Landry, R.Anderson, MVS, Chark, J.Palmer in some form to net a higher end guy. Go figure one lands in my lap. 

 
14 tm 1 QB 1rb 2wr 1 te 2 flex PPR IDP 1DL 2LB 2DB 1 Flex been around since 2004

i was offered and took:

Trubiskey, M.Williams, Clowney

Gave:

Mariota, Chark, Burns

Really not sure what he was gunning for. Mariota prob has a better hold on his spot than Trubisky but BU for both teams. Burns a minor upgrade at DL for him, but my #2 guy.  I had been looking for a #3 WR, I love to have M.Williams. I had been trying to package Landry, R.Anderson, MVS, Chark, J.Palmer in some form to net a higher end guy. Go figure one lands in my lap. 
Your side for sure. Burns is a solid DL, but that’s not really worth Mike Williams. The QBs are both super meh in a 1 QB league. 

 
Not sure why you’re disparaging Meyer. I’ve read he may be the next Kittle. He’s shown skills. AND he almost has the same name as the dude in Friday the 13th. :lol:  
It's actually Halloween just for the sake of accuracy for us horror film fans

I worked with the guy for a few months that played Michael Myers in the original Halloween.  Low budget movie and there were 3 guys that shared the role but he was the only one who got to show his face when the mask got pulled off.  Was also the brother of Joanie on Happy Days.  

Just an odd aside 

 
Smokin Okie said:
12 team - 12 Keeper - PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 2TE Flex

Team A gets: 

  • Four 2023 1st round picks
  • Two 2023 2nd round picks
  • 2024 1st round pick
  • RB Miles Sanders
Team B gets:

  • Justin Jefferson
Team A was loaded at WR. He had Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, Diontae,  and Hollywood. His QB is Kyler and his TE is Ertz.  His RB situation is awful with only Michel and Henderson. He also didn't have any 1st round picks in 2022 or 2023.  I guess he didn't think he could compete this year so is gearing up for 2023.
Wow just Wow

 
I worked with the guy for a few months that played Michael Myers in the original Halloween.  Low budget movie and there were 3 guys that shared the role but he was the only one who got to show his face when the mask got pulled off.  Was also the brother of Joanie on Happy Days.  

Just an odd aside 
Gemini Crow sauces on the east coast works with a few of the golden age horror bad guys on custom labelled sauces. Says they’re all super chill. 

 
Not involved in this one.

Start 1QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 1 K 1 D

PPR - .75 PPR RB, 1 PPR WR, 1.5 PPR TE

Team A gets - Michael Carter, Javonte Williams,  Trey Lance, Tony Pollard and Courtland Sutton

Team B gets - Elijah Moore, DJ Moore, Aaron Jones,  Joe Mixon and Carson Wentz

 
Not involved in this one.

Start 1QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 1 K 1 D

PPR - .75 PPR RB, 1 PPR WR, 1.5 PPR TE

Team A gets - Michael Carter, Javonte Williams,  Trey Lance, Tony Pollard and Courtland Sutton

Team B gets - Elijah Moore, DJ Moore, Aaron Jones,  Joe Mixon and Carson Wentz
That’s a huge trade.

Team B gets a lot of current high end talent. 1 QB, I’m on team B by a chunk. 

I love Javonte, but Lance value isn’t great in that format, Carter is kinda meh with Hall there, Pollard is nice but yeah, team B fairly easily for me. 

Opinions may vary. 

 
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I said either format, yes.

I still feel that way.

Not sure why you’re disparaging Meyer. I’ve read he may be the next Kittle. He’s shown skills. AND he almost has the same name as the dude in Friday the 13th. :lol:  
Not disparaging Mayer, but he will most likely never be selected top 5 and that is what I was talking about in a start 1QB league.  You said he belongs in that group of 5 and I disagree.

 
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Not disparaging Mayer, but he will most likely never be selected top 5 and that is what I was talking about in a start 1QB league.  You said he belongs in that group of 5 and I disagree.
If he puts up the same numbers as last year or better be could well be top 10. That’s why I’d be fine with him 7-10 range. He’s 250 with wingspan, he can block, and he’s been comp’d to Kittle by more than one analyst. He’s likely to be a 1st round dynasty pick, IMO 

 
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If he puts up the same numbers as last year or better be could well be top 10. That’s why I’d be fine with him 7-10 range. He’s 250 with wingspan, he can block, and he’s been comp’d to Kittle by more than one analyst. He’s likely to be a 1st round dynasty pick, IMO 
Not at the expense of Chase.  Anything short of two top 5 picks and another first won’t cut it for me.

 
Not at the expense of Chase.  Anything short of two top 5 picks and another first won’t cut it for me.
fair take. I won’t tell you how to value guys. I love Chase. But I could probably turn 2 of those 1sts into a top 5 pick, and still take a potential TE of the future, a really nice WR or a RB. 

We can agree to disagree.

 
efactor said:
Definitely agree with the bolded part.  Kind of offset for me in the fact that he has Higgins to share the wealth with. Love them both, but feel Jefferson will be more of a target monster.

We will see 
He had Higgins to share the wealth with last season and still put up monster numbers.

 
He had Higgins to share the wealth with last season and still put up monster numbers.
Not on monster targets or catches.  Averaged 18 yards a catch and had 5 TDs of over 50 yards.  Not easy to repeat those two stats.

I love both of them but the comment was why I prefer Jefferson slightly in dynasty despite Chase having a superior QB option for the foreseeable future.  Higgins will get his as will Boyd on a smaller scale.  If they throw the ball more this year and Chase's targets go up to 160-170 range, then it might be a trade I regret. But they almost won the super bowl last year with a balanced offense, so don't expect a major change there.  

But the Vikings are expected to be more pass heavy this year with Zimmer gone, so Jefferson's targets could reach the crazy 190-200 range.  

 
Not on monster targets or catches.  Averaged 18 yards a catch and had 5 TDs of over 50 yards.  Not easy to repeat those two stats.

I love both of them but the comment was why I prefer Jefferson slightly in dynasty despite Chase having a superior QB option for the foreseeable future.  Higgins will get his as will Boyd on a smaller scale.  If they throw the ball more this year and Chase's targets go up to 160-170 range, then it might be a trade I regret. But they almost won the super bowl last year with a balanced offense, so don't expect a major change there.  
Jefferson and Chase are arguably the top two assets in dynasty and preferring one over the other is fine but arguments like the bold are always odd to me - I could just as easily say about Jefferson, "Thielen will get his as will Osborn on a smaller scale". Chase, like Jefferson, is a far superior target than anyone of his respective team and will be fed.

With that said, you basically got the 1.10 for free so can't blame you for taking that deal.

 
Jefferson and Chase are arguably the top two assets in dynasty and preferring one over the other is fine but arguments like the bold are always odd to me - I could just as easily say about Jefferson, "Thielen will get his as will Osborn on a smaller scale". Chase, like Jefferson, is a far superior target than anyone of his respective team and will be fed.

With that said, you basically got the 1.10 for free so can't blame you for taking that deal.
Sorry, but comparing Theilen at this point in his career and Osborn at this point in his career to Higgins and Boyd is stretching it IMO.  Higgins is a top 10 type receiver in his own right so while Chase is a superior target, far superior is a reach.  Theilen is not near top 10 at this point in his career, although still a very good red zone target. Jefferson is clearly the man.

Being able to turn the 1.10 and my 2023 1st into an excellent chance for the top overall pick in 2023 was big for me.  If I can land JSN, any regrets I have trading Chase will be removed.

 
Sorry, but comparing Theilen at this point in his career and Osborn at this point in his career to Higgins and Boyd is stretching it IMO.  Higgins is a top 10 type receiver in his own right so while Chase is a superior target, far superior is a reach.  Theilen is not near top 10 at this point in his career, although still a very good red zone target. Jefferson is clearly the man.
We'll need to agree to disagree on that.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
I’m not saying he won’t play again. I’m saying he may never be as relevant again. I think it’s a fair reaction. Especially since we still don’t know the full extent of his gambling, and how he impacted games in which he played. 

Regardless, it’s still light for Evans.
I think you are all right.  Way light for Evans, Ridley's hate has gone a little too far, I don't think he will ever be as relevant again but do think he could be a playable asset in the future but it will be for a team other than the ATL.  Also, a bad move for a rebuild team at 28.  He could also turn in to the new AB where he just has issues on top of issues.

 
Smokin Okie said:
12 team - 12 Keeper - PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 2TE Flex

Team A gets: 

  • Four 2023 1st round picks
  • Two 2023 2nd round picks
  • 2024 1st round pick
  • RB Miles Sanders
Team B gets:

  • Justin Jefferson
Team A was loaded at WR. He had Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, Diontae,  and Hollywood. His QB is Kyler and his TE is Ertz.  His RB situation is awful with only Michel and Henderson. He also didn't have any 1st round picks in 2022 or 2023.  I guess he didn't think he could compete this year so is gearing up for 2023.
I love Jefferson and think he might be the best asset in Dynasty fantasy football.  I'd pay a ton for him if it made sense but this is way too much.  Like the 4 1sts next year might be a touch too much depending on where they land.  This is a free 24 1st/Sanders, and 2 2nd.

Just wow.  That is a haul I never thought I'd seen paid for a single player.  Even one on JJ's level.

 
Smokin Okie said:
Yes I accepted I fairly quickly. I was Team A. 
 

I was still torn about it because I probably could have competed starting Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, and Diontae every week. Even with my lack of rbs. I could have traded Hollywood for rb help. 
How were you torn about this?  That was more than he should have paid for Jefferson and Lamb together.  I don't care the player, you get offered 4 1sts, 2 2nds, and a starting RB for one player and there should be no question.

 
cloppbeast said:
Sent Joe Burrow for Lamar Jackson
I guess it's pretty much preference since they're close but I'd prefer Burrow unless the scoring format is 4 pt passing TDs and 6 pts rushing TD

 
As a reference point, Jefferson went in our league in the following trade:

SF, large starting roster, large benches

Team A Gave:  Jefferson, 2.08, 3.01

Team B Gave:  Z Wilson, 1.02, 2.02, 3.02

I thought it was a bit light, but not 4x 1st rounders light!

 
As a reference point, Jefferson went in our league in the following trade:

SF, large starting roster, large benches

Team A Gave:  Jefferson, 2.08, 3.01

Team B Gave:  Z Wilson, 1.02, 2.02, 3.02

I thought it was a bit light, but not 4x 1st rounders light!
It seems like the team giving up JJ shouldn't have had to include any picks and maybe that would be equal.  I'd still rather get 4 first rounders 😂

 
As a reference point, Jefferson went in our league in the following trade:

SF, large starting roster, large benches

Team A Gave:  Jefferson, 2.08, 3.01

Team B Gave:  Z Wilson, 1.02, 2.02, 3.02

I thought it was a bit light, but not 4x 1st rounders light!
These seems extremely light even in SF.  I agree that it would look better if 2.08 and 3.01 weren't included and knowing where the 1st would be does help but I'd want a 23 1st included in that to make that trade for JJ.  Maybe in place of 3.02, even if I wasn't giving picks back.

 
As a reference point, Jefferson went in our league in the following trade:

SF, large starting roster, large benches

Team A Gave:  Jefferson, 2.08, 3.01

Team B Gave:  Z Wilson, 1.02, 2.02, 3.02

I thought it was a bit light, but not 4x 1st rounders light!


Not a fan of this deal...I get the need for a QB in SF but if I am dealing Jefferson, I want someone who is 100% established and is going to have the job for a long time...Wilson could end up being that, but I am not risking Jefferson just in-case it does not happen...the #2 is a nice get but when I look at the other picks it just doesn't do enough for me to want to give up one of the top Dynasty assets there is.

 
As a reference point, Jefferson went in our league in the following trade:

SF, large starting roster, large benches

Team A Gave:  Jefferson, 2.08, 3.01

Team B Gave:  Z Wilson, 1.02, 2.02, 3.02

I thought it was a bit light, but not 4x 1st rounders light!
I don't play SF so I may be way off here but Wilson is at least a tier or two down from the type of QB that JJ should command I'd think.  I'd think you'd need someone in the 6-10 tier at a minimum to pair with the 1.02 to make this worth giving up Jefferson. 

 
Traded:
Michael Carter and Davis Mills

Received:
Hubbard (CMac owner) 2.7 and 2.9

I wanted out of Carter (drafted 1.9 last year) and it's a start 1-2RB max league.  This owner not only owned Hall, but needed a QB prospect badly and had multiple 2nds to give a logical return.  This can get me 2 bites at the apple to grab an RB with a higher ceiling than Carter (White, Robinson, Allgeier and Pierce all still available) or a decent WR like David Bell.  

 
Traded:
Michael Carter and Davis Mills

Received:
Hubbard (CMac owner) 2.7 and 2.9

I wanted out of Carter (drafted 1.9 last year) and it's a start 1-2RB max league.  This owner not only owned Hall, but needed a QB prospect badly and had multiple 2nds to give a logical return.  This can get me 2 bites at the apple to grab an RB with a higher ceiling than Carter (White, Robinson, Allgeier and Pierce all still available) or a decent WR like David Bell.  
I would sell Carter for a 2nd rounder alone, which leaves Davis Mills for another 2nd and Hubbard - great trade for you.  

 
Bunch of trades during the draft

12 team SF, all TD's 6 points, PPR, except TE 2PPR, start 2-6 RB, 2-6WR, 1-5 TE

1. 1.5 (took Treylon Burks) for Amari Cooper and OJ Howard

2. Brandin Cooks and Jameis Winston for 4.10 (took Jerome Ford) and 2023 1st (team finished 3rd last year)

3. Christian Kirk, 2.1 (took Isiah Spiller), 2.10 (took Zamir White) for 1.6 (took Garrett Wilson) and 3.6 (took Khalil Shakir)

4. Baker Mayfield and 3.1 (took Jalen Tolbert) for Gabriel Davis

5. Allen Robinson, 3.11 (took Velus Jones), and 5.11 for Nyheim Hines, 4.12 (took Jake Ferguson), and 2023 1st (team won championship)

6. Russell Wilson for Jared Goff, Dalvin Cook, and DJ Chark

 

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