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** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (2 Viewers)

Mighty Mice said:
OFFICIAL DEPTH CHART - RELEASED TUESDAY, AUGUST 5

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/g...hart_080508.pdf

Interesting.

-King Dunlap backing up Tra, not Justice.

-Juqua Parker starting at LDE, not Howard. Not Clemons.

-Laws ahead of Kimo and Reagor on the depth chart

-Lito and Sheldon JOINT 1st string RCB

and many more!
The depth chart is a fascinating exercise, in that I wonder if it will really motivate the players in question.Things that jump out at me:

RB -- Booker has been making plays all over the field, but I view the C-Buck as RB2 more a testament to Buck's seniority. I would say the only two who need to care about their place on that depth chart are Hunt and Moats, because the team's only going to keep one of them tops

WR -- With DeSean lining up with the first team in recent practices, I REALLY find it hard to accept he's behind Michael Gasperson, not sure whether this was more reflective of the situation when he was injured early in camp or if Reid is still trying to convince him the nothing is for granted

TE -- I know a lot of beat writers (and fantasy owners) have been hyping Kris Wilson but this is the 2nd time we've seen evidence that Reid isn't necessarily buying what Wilson is cooking. In his lengthy radio presser to open camp, he singled out every TE on the roster EXCEPT for Wilson and then we see Wilson listed as TE4 in the chart. With Schobel looking gassed, I still think Wilson can/will make the roster but he needs to turn it up

OL -- We REALLY need Shawn Andrews to get his head straight. While Jean-Gilles has looked good, the rest of our OL depth leaves a ton to be desired. I view King Dunlap being listed at LT2 more an incrimination of Winston Justice than an affirmation of Dunlap

FB -- Davis is listed as the starter, but it's a 3-horse race right now. I suspect Lawton wins the job b/c he's a little more versatile, although they could keep two FBs this year, too

DE -- Clemons may be a "situational pass rusher" but there's no way listing him at LDE3 isn't with the intent to motivate him. They have him behind a guy with a broken wrist. I still wonder if Darren Howard is long for this roster. It's up to Bryan Smith. If he plays his heart out, I could see the team letting Howard go.

LB -- OMG our LB depth is AWFUL :lmao: Rocky Boiman, Joe Mays and Akeem Jordan as backups? :X

DT -- Didn't we sign Dan Klecko to play fullback :bag: Now he rates as a projected member of the DT rotation? Ugh.

CB -- Talk about being too cute for your own good. Having Lito and Sheldon listed as co-starters at RCB? C'mon now.

LS -- Could you imagine if Darren Howard actually had to be our long snapper? :shark:

 
The coaching staff is really soured on the effort Reggie Brown is putting into camp. Hank Baskett is breathing down his neck to be the starter opposite Curtis.
Interesting, GCobb wrote an article with the same take yesterday.GCobb - Brown's job at Risk?
Brown seems to be the only 'disappointing' WR in camp right now. The others are at least putting effort in.I don't care for Cobb, but he seems to be hearing the same thing I am.......

 
Mighty Mice said:
OFFICIAL DEPTH CHART - RELEASED TUESDAY, AUGUST 5

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/g...hart_080508.pdf

Interesting.

-King Dunlap backing up Tra, not Justice.

-Juqua Parker starting at LDE, not Howard. Not Clemons.

-Laws ahead of Kimo and Reagor on the depth chart

-Lito and Sheldon JOINT 1st string RCB

and many more!
The depth chart is a fascinating exercise, in that I wonder if it will really motivate the players in question.Things that jump out at me:

RB -- Booker has been making plays all over the field, but I view the C-Buck as RB2 more a testament to Buck's seniority. I would say the only two who need to care about their place on that depth chart are Hunt and Moats, because the team's only going to keep one of them tops

WR -- With DeSean lining up with the first team in recent practices, I REALLY find it hard to accept he's behind Michael Gasperson, not sure whether this was more reflective of the situation when he was injured early in camp or if Reid is still trying to convince him the nothing is for granted

TE -- I know a lot of beat writers (and fantasy owners) have been hyping Kris Wilson but this is the 2nd time we've seen evidence that Reid isn't necessarily buying what Wilson is cooking. In his lengthy radio presser to open camp, he singled out every TE on the roster EXCEPT for Wilson and then we see Wilson listed as TE4 in the chart. With Schobel looking gassed, I still think Wilson can/will make the roster but he needs to turn it up

OL -- We REALLY need Shawn Andrews to get his head straight. While Jean-Gilles has looked good, the rest of our OL depth leaves a ton to be desired. I view King Dunlap being listed at LT2 more an incrimination of Winston Justice than an affirmation of Dunlap

FB -- Davis is listed as the starter, but it's a 3-horse race right now. I suspect Lawton wins the job b/c he's a little more versatile, although they could keep two FBs this year, too

DE -- Clemons may be a "situational pass rusher" but there's no way listing him at LDE3 isn't with the intent to motivate him. They have him behind a guy with a broken wrist. I still wonder if Darren Howard is long for this roster. It's up to Bryan Smith. If he plays his heart out, I could see the team letting Howard go.

LB -- OMG our LB depth is AWFUL :unsure: Rocky Boiman, Joe Mays and Akeem Jordan as backups? :X

DT -- Didn't we sign Dan Klecko to play fullback :devil: Now he rates as a projected member of the DT rotation? Ugh.

CB -- Talk about being too cute for your own good. Having Lito and Sheldon listed as co-starters at RCB? C'mon now.

LS -- Could you imagine if Darren Howard actually had to be our long snapper? :bag:
Thanks J, very interesting stuff. Juqua starting left is surprising but I think Reid is just mixing some of the 2nd tier guys in with the first to see if he finds a good matchup. From what I hear Darren Howard has have a fantastic camp but i'm still wait and see with him, he's been nothing short of a disappointment so far.The RBs, no matter how the depth chart is going to shake out, will see the field. I see lots of Westbrook going wide with Buckhalter or Booker in the backfield, Tony Hunt will be used as the usualy short yardage guy but he isn't a lock to make the team like you said, but Moats is the guy on the outside looking in at the moment.

WR's are going to be the drawback of this team (as the usually are every year). When Hank Baskett seems to be the only shining star so far (Brown has been a dissapointment while Curtis has been par for the course) the WR position is struggling big time.

Everything else I absoluetly agree with, LB depth is very scary and not in a good way, hope for good health. Very interested in King Dunlap, the guy makes Brock Lesner look like a dwarf. If they can teach him the skills he's going to be a big plow the road type of lineman.

 
The coaching staff is really soured on the effort Reggie Brown is putting into camp. Hank Baskett is breathing down his neck to be the starter opposite Curtis.
Interesting, GCobb wrote an article with the same take yesterday.GCobb - Brown's job at Risk?
Brown seems to be the only 'disappointing' WR in camp right now. The others are at least putting effort in.I don't care for Cobb, but he seems to be hearing the same thing I am.......
GCobb is very annoying but more times than not he's accurate when it comes to player development and whether the player will have a good year or not.
 
From Iggles homepage: Looks like a good look at everything Friday if true. :popcorn: :excited:

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/BlogHead.asp

"On the eve of the first preseason game of 2008, Blog Head has learned that the Eagles starters will play for a quarter and half against the Steelers. The 2nd group, led on offense by QB Kevin Kolb, will also play a quarter and half, while the 3rd stringers will work the fourth quarter. CB Asante Samuel (hamstring), DTs Kimo von Oelhoffen (knee) and Montae Reagor (knee), DE Victor Abiamiri (wrist surgery), and OL Franklin Dunbar (back) will not make the trip across the state."

 
Put me in the "lies lies lies" camp. Doesn't this happen every year? I say 2 series for McNabb/Westbrook.

 
Personally, I would prefer Westbrook to be relieved by Booker after a series or two. Be nice to see what Booker likes like with the #1 offense on the field. Nice to see what he could bring if we had to rely on him for a game or two.

 
I would like to see lots of Tony Hunt personally. And Desean Jackson of course...

I really don't think that Booker would replace Westbrook if the unthinkable happened. Booker needs to be in space, he's not a good between the tackles runner. There would be full blown RBBC if that happened.

 
I would like to see lots of Tony Hunt personally. And Desean Jackson of course...I really don't think that Booker would replace Westbrook if the unthinkable happened. Booker needs to be in space, he's not a good between the tackles runner. There would be full blown RBBC if that happened.
I dont know enough abut Booker to reply directly to that. But, i do know that is the same knock they used to have on a certain #36...just saying...
 
I would like to see lots of Tony Hunt personally. And Desean Jackson of course...I really don't think that Booker would replace Westbrook if the unthinkable happened. Booker needs to be in space, he's not a good between the tackles runner. There would be full blown RBBC if that happened.
I dont know enough abut Booker to reply directly to that. But, i do know that is the same knock they used to have on a certain #36...just saying...
Nobody in the know claimed that about Westbrook. I certainly didn't. Booker has always split carries with more powerful inside runners, even in college (Ronnie Brown, Jesse Chatman, Leon Washington, Antone Smith, etc.). Booker had 13 rushing TDs in 4 years of college (none last year), Westbrook had 54. Booker is taller and yet weighs less than Westbrook. He is just not an inside runner.
 
I would like to see lots of Tony Hunt personally. And Desean Jackson of course...

I really don't think that Booker would replace Westbrook if the unthinkable happened. Booker needs to be in space, he's not a good between the tackles runner. There would be full blown RBBC if that happened.
I dont know enough abut Booker to reply directly to that. But, i do know that is the same knock they used to have on a certain #36...just saying...
Nobody in the know claimed that about Westbrook. I certainly didn't. Booker has always split carries with more powerful inside runners, even in college (Ronnie Brown, Jesse Chatman, Leon Washington, Antone Smith, etc.). Booker had 13 rushing TDs in 4 years of college (none last year), Westbrook had 54. Booker is taller and yet weighs less than Westbrook. He is just not an inside runner.
I hate to rehash the same old argument but what your are saying about Booker was said about Westbrook just a couple years ago.The college comparison is pointless as well. Westbrook went to Villanova while Booker played at FSU (and little Leon Washington is hardly an inside runner).

Granted, I agree if Westbrook were to miss time, I see Buck with 15+ carries and Booker with the rest of the touches (about 10 carries and receptions.

FWIW- Hunt will be lucky if they carry 4 RBs and he makes the team.

And you may want to recheck your Booker stats Link

LORENZO BOOKER STATS Receiving Rushing

Statistics No Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD

2006 33 420 12.7 0 143 616 4.3 4

2005 38 329 8.7 2 119 552 4.6 4

2004 24 160 6.7 0 173 887 5.1 4

2003 19 86 4.5 0 62 334 5.4 3

2002 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 0

Career 114 995 8.7 2 497 2,389 4.8 15
 
I would like to see lots of Tony Hunt personally. And Desean Jackson of course...

I really don't think that Booker would replace Westbrook if the unthinkable happened. Booker needs to be in space, he's not a good between the tackles runner. There would be full blown RBBC if that happened.
I dont know enough abut Booker to reply directly to that. But, i do know that is the same knock they used to have on a certain #36...just saying...
Nobody in the know claimed that about Westbrook. I certainly didn't. Booker has always split carries with more powerful inside runners, even in college (Ronnie Brown, Jesse Chatman, Leon Washington, Antone Smith, etc.). Booker had 13 rushing TDs in 4 years of college (none last year), Westbrook had 54. Booker is taller and yet weighs less than Westbrook. He is just not an inside runner.
I hate to rehash the same old argument but what your are saying about Booker was said about Westbrook just a couple years ago.The college comparison is pointless as well. Westbrook went to Villanova while Booker played at FSU (and little Leon Washington is hardly an inside runner).

Granted, I agree if Westbrook were to miss time, I see Buck with 15+ carries and Booker with the rest of the touches (about 10 carries and receptions.

FWIW- Hunt will be lucky if they carry 4 RBs and he makes the team.

And you may want to recheck your Booker stats Link

LORENZO BOOKER STATS Receiving Rushing

Statistics No Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD

2006 33 420 12.7 0 143 616 4.3 4

2005 38 329 8.7 2 119 552 4.6 4

2004 24 160 6.7 0 173 887 5.1 4

2003 19 86 4.5 0 62 334 5.4 3

2002 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 0

Career 114 995 8.7 2 497 2,389 4.8 15
As I said, nobody in the know was claiming that about Westbrook. Watching him at his 1st TC it was obvious he could do it. But let's move on from 2002...I hear you about the Fla. St. vs. Villanova competition, but the point about Booker is valid, he has always split time every team he has been on. There is a reason for that. "Little" Leon Washington is a good 10 lbs heavier than Booker and is a better inside runner. And the 13 TDs for Booker in college I got from nfldraftscout.com which had his TD totals as 3, 4, 4 and 2. Not 4, 4, 4 and 3. You do get 15 total if you add in his 2 career receiving TDs..

:shrug:

I want Hunt to beat out Buck. :popcorn:

 
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We’re hearing rumblings out of Philly that the team has struck a deal with running back Brian Westbrook. Specifically, we’re told that Westbrook is telling others that an agreement has been reached.

Westbrook has been angling for a new contract, and contemplated staging a holdout. Not long ago, he fired agent Fletcher Smith and hired Todd France.

The terms, which aren’t yet known, will go a long way toward proving whether France was successful.

If it’s true that Westbrook wanted $30 million over the next three years, our guess is that France wasn’t.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/07/...rook-deal-done/
 
We’re hearing rumblings out of Philly that the team has struck a deal with running back Brian Westbrook. Specifically, we’re told that Westbrook is telling others that an agreement has been reached.

Westbrook has been angling for a new contract, and contemplated staging a holdout. Not long ago, he fired agent Fletcher Smith and hired Todd France.

The terms, which aren’t yet known, will go a long way toward proving whether France was successful.

If it’s true that Westbrook wanted $30 million over the next three years, our guess is that France wasn’t.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/07/...rook-deal-done/
If this is true I'm so giddy. Shows Reid and Banner recognize that what worked five years ago isn't going to work today with a veteran team that needs to be compensated (and to win) NOW.
 
I would like to see lots of Tony Hunt personally. And Desean Jackson of course...

I really don't think that Booker would replace Westbrook if the unthinkable happened. Booker needs to be in space, he's not a good between the tackles runner. There would be full blown RBBC if that happened.
I dont know enough abut Booker to reply directly to that. But, i do know that is the same knock they used to have on a certain #36...just saying...
Nobody in the know claimed that about Westbrook. I certainly didn't. Booker has always split carries with more powerful inside runners, even in college (Ronnie Brown, Jesse Chatman, Leon Washington, Antone Smith, etc.). Booker had 13 rushing TDs in 4 years of college (none last year), Westbrook had 54. Booker is taller and yet weighs less than Westbrook. He is just not an inside runner.
I hate to rehash the same old argument but what your are saying about Booker was said about Westbrook just a couple years ago.The college comparison is pointless as well. Westbrook went to Villanova while Booker played at FSU (and little Leon Washington is hardly an inside runner).

Granted, I agree if Westbrook were to miss time, I see Buck with 15+ carries and Booker with the rest of the touches (about 10 carries and receptions.

FWIW- Hunt will be lucky if they carry 4 RBs and he makes the team.

And you may want to recheck your Booker stats Link

LORENZO BOOKER STATS Receiving Rushing

Statistics No Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD

2006 33 420 12.7 0 143 616 4.3 4

2005 38 329 8.7 2 119 552 4.6 4

2004 24 160 6.7 0 173 887 5.1 4

2003 19 86 4.5 0 62 334 5.4 3

2002 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 0

Career 114 995 8.7 2 497 2,389 4.8 15
As I said, nobody in the know was claiming that about Westbrook. Watching him at his 1st TC it was obvious he could do it. But let's move on from 2002...I hear you about the Fla. St. vs. Villanova competition, but the point about Booker is valid, he has always split time every team he has been on. There is a reason for that. "Little" Leon Washington is a good 10 lbs heavier than Booker and is a better inside runner. And the 13 TDs for Booker in college I got from nfldraftscout.com which had his TD totals as 3, 4, 4 and 2. Not 4, 4, 4 and 3. You do get 15 total if you add in his 2 career receiving TDs..

:confused:

I want Hunt to beat out Buck. :confused:
i cant provide any links (for obvious reasons), but i do remember a lot of the so called experts saying this about Westy. I guess if by "in the know" you mean Joe Banner, AR, and other F.O. types, then sure, they probably weren't saying it. Just looking back at the stats from 02-04, Westy split a lot of carries with guys like Buck, Levens, and Duce. So, at least on the surface it appears there were concerns about Westy's ability to be a complete RB.

Hopefully we don't have to find out, through injury or other issues. But, i wonder if a few years with this coaching staff could prepare Booker the way it did Westy?

 
OFFICIAL DEPTH CHART - RELEASED TUESDAY, AUGUST 5

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/g...hart_080508.pdf

Interesting.

-King Dunlap backing up Tra, not Justice.

-Juqua Parker starting at LDE, not Howard. Not Clemons.

-Laws ahead of Kimo and Reagor on the depth chart

-Lito and Sheldon JOINT 1st string RCB

and many more!
The depth chart is a fascinating exercise, in that I wonder if it will really motivate the players in question.Things that jump out at me:

RB -- Booker has been making plays all over the field, but I view the C-Buck as RB2 more a testament to Buck's seniority. I would say the only two who need to care about their place on that depth chart are Hunt and Moats, because the team's only going to keep one of them tops

WR -- With DeSean lining up with the first team in recent practices, I REALLY find it hard to accept he's behind Michael Gasperson, not sure whether this was more reflective of the situation when he was injured early in camp or if Reid is still trying to convince him the nothing is for granted

TE -- I know a lot of beat writers (and fantasy owners) have been hyping Kris Wilson but this is the 2nd time we've seen evidence that Reid isn't necessarily buying what Wilson is cooking. In his lengthy radio presser to open camp, he singled out every TE on the roster EXCEPT for Wilson and then we see Wilson listed as TE4 in the chart. With Schobel looking gassed, I still think Wilson can/will make the roster but he needs to turn it up

OL -- We REALLY need Shawn Andrews to get his head straight. While Jean-Gilles has looked good, the rest of our OL depth leaves a ton to be desired. I view King Dunlap being listed at LT2 more an incrimination of Winston Justice than an affirmation of Dunlap

FB -- Davis is listed as the starter, but it's a 3-horse race right now. I suspect Lawton wins the job b/c he's a little more versatile, although they could keep two FBs this year, too

DE -- Clemons may be a "situational pass rusher" but there's no way listing him at LDE3 isn't with the intent to motivate him. They have him behind a guy with a broken wrist. I still wonder if Darren Howard is long for this roster. It's up to Bryan Smith. If he plays his heart out, I could see the team letting Howard go.

LB -- OMG our LB depth is AWFUL :wall: Rocky Boiman, Joe Mays and Akeem Jordan as backups? :X

DT -- Didn't we sign Dan Klecko to play fullback :confused: Now he rates as a projected member of the DT rotation? Ugh.

CB -- Talk about being too cute for your own good. Having Lito and Sheldon listed as co-starters at RCB? C'mon now.

LS -- Could you imagine if Darren Howard actually had to be our long snapper? :eek:
As a long time fan and big Eagles homer I don't often agree with your assessments but this was :goodposting: .
 
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DONE DEAL WITH WESTY

Westbrook gets new deal

By Bob Brookover

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Todd France said the deadline for getting a deal done between the Eagles and their star running back was today.

That mission was officially accomplished this afternoon when the sides agreed on a complicated 52-page contract that France said is essentially a significant pay increase of the existing three years Westbrook had on the contract he signed in 2005.

"From the first day I was able to represent Brian and the paper work was officially filed, we worked aggressively with the team to try to make something work," France said from his office in Georgia. "We tried to get very creative and find a structure that would allow us to get something done while still dealing with the rules that were in place."

Neither France nor the Eagles would disclose the terms of the deal, but a source close to the situation said there is $13 million in new money. The source said that $13 million in the first two seasons is guaranteed and that Westbrook will make $21 million over the next three seasons. The source said that there are escalators based on playoff appearances and individual performance that could increase Westbrook's salary to $24 million.

Westbrook's contract saga started during last season when his former agent Fletcher Smith opened negotiations to restructure the star running back's five-year, $24.9 million deal he signed in 2005.

Westbrook was scheduled to make $11 million in base salary during the final three years of his contract. He also received a $1.5 bonus this year as part of the deal he signed in 2005.

Those talks continued through the offseason, but stalled in the middle of June. Westbrook, who'll turn 29 before the start of the season, went public with his dissatisfaction over the stalled negotiations during a July interview with the Inquirer. Five days later, he fired Smith and began an extensive search for a new agent.

France got the job and went to work with the Eagles, who never denied that Westbrook had outperformed his contract.

"I can't speak to why the deal didn't get done before, but I know we kept hammering away in order to do something that made sense for the player," the agent said. "We set a timetable with the team, so this would be dragged and for whatever reason, we were able to get it done."

And now Westbrook can happily focus on playing football again.

Contact staff writer Bob Brookover at 215-854-2577 or bbrookover@phillynews.com.

link

 
Got to be happy with the results of the pre-season game.

Nobody got hurt.

McNabb looked great.

D. Jackson looked good, although the stat line is nothing special.

Nobody got hurt.

First team defense looked terrible on the first Steelers drive, but good on the second.

Reserve O-lineman looked over-whelmed at times, but Casserly made a greatobservation, and he's 100% correct.

Nobody got hurt.

Hunt is toast if we don't carry four...I can't see him getting past Buckhalter.

Why was Lewis in with the first team? I kinda thought he might not even make the squad.

Would have been nice if Feeley had hit Wilson to pull out the win, but who cares.....nobody got hurt! :cry:

 
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Asante and Andrews supposedly back at practice today. Any locals confirm this?
Cornerback Asante Samuel, who has been sidelined for the last two weeks with a hamstring injury, returned to the field Sunday morning, but appeared to tweak the hamstring again. He participated in about two-thirds of the morning practice, then walked off the field and indicated to an assistant trainer that the hamstring was bothering him. Much to the chagrin of defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, he didn't take any more reps in the morning practice.
The Eagles still were waiting on the arrival of guard Shawn Andrews Sunday afternoon. At his late-morning news conference following the Eagles' morning practice, Andy Reid said he expected Andrews to report to Lehigh ``sometime today, but I'm not sure exactly when.'' Even if he does report today, it could be a while before he gets back on the practice field. Even though Andrews has been given medical clearance to play, Reid wants to make sure the two-time Pro Bowler has a handle on his depression. Andrews also needs to pass the team's conditioning tests before he can return to the field. Right now, he's still on their reserve-did not report list and doesn't count against their 80-man camp roster. ``I want to see him first before I make any judgments there (on his return),'' Reid said. ``I know he's been working out. But I just want to sit down and talk with him face to face. Make sure everything's set up for him here so he can be successful. I'm going to gradually feed him back in. But I want to see how he's doing. That's my primary focus.'' With the Eagles breaking camp Wednesday, there's a good possibility Andrews won't start practicing with the team until after Thursday's second preseason game against Carolina. Said Reid: ``He wants to come back. I'm sure there's some apprehension there. But I know he wants to get back going, get back with the guys.''
 
Asante and Andrews supposedly back at practice today. Any locals confirm this?
Cornerback Asante Samuel, who has been sidelined for the last two weeks with a hamstring injury, returned to the field Sunday morning, but appeared to tweak the hamstring again. He participated in about two-thirds of the morning practice, then walked off the field and indicated to an assistant trainer that the hamstring was bothering him. Much to the chagrin of defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, he didn't take any more reps in the morning practice.
:doh: :confused:
 
Any news on who McNabb is getting closest to? Does he seem to be trying to build any stronger relationship with any WRs in particular? Like maybe finally with Reggie Brown?

 
If you are looking for a "primary target" look no further than Westbrook. While Curtis will be the "down the field" guy, Westy will get the dump passes and will turn them into big yardage. The return of LJ Smith helps the offense much more than people realize. Again, if 5 is healthy they will spread it around and score points.

Any news on who McNabb is getting closest to? Does he seem to be trying to build any stronger relationship with any WRs in particular? Like maybe finally with Reggie Brown?
 
I am very curious to know whether Jackson can stay this involved come the start of the regular season. He has been almost phenomanal so far.

 
I am very curious to know whether Jackson can stay this involved come the start of the regular season. He has been almost phenomanal so far.
I find it absolutely ridiculous/hilarious that Jackson is still listed behind Michael Gasperson on the depth chart (updated again this week). He's going to be starting by midseason at the worst, particularly if Reggie Brown's hammy turns out to be significant.
 
I am very curious to know whether Jackson can stay this involved come the start of the regular season. He has been almost phenomanal so far.
I find it absolutely ridiculous/hilarious that Jackson is still listed behind Michael Gasperson on the depth chart (updated again this week). He's going to be starting by midseason at the worst, particularly if Reggie Brown's hammy turns out to be significant.
I'm hoping it's just smoke and mirrors by Andy but I don't see why he would need to do this in preseason, it's pretty obvious Jackson is going to be a starter along the line this season. Without Brown for who knows how long and a bunch of WRs that can't catch a football (as usual) I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson starts Week 1 against the Rams as a slot WR, it probably won't happen. I think Jackson could have some good Fantasy value by the end of the season, a mega-sleeper if you will, but that's just the biased-homer in me talking.
 
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pleasant surprises form last night-

Todd Herremans did a very good job sliding out to LT

Juqua Parker had a couple of good plays at end

Unpleasant surprises-

Max Jean-Gilles

entire special teams squad

 
pleasant surprises form last night-Todd Herremans did a very good job sliding out to LTJuqua Parker had a couple of good plays at endUnpleasant surprises-Max Jean-Gillesentire special teams squad
Agreed on all fronts. Herremans (like Andrews) was a collegiate tackle so its not shocking to see him play reasonably well. He's not a fluid as Thomas but is still a better option than Winston Justice or King Dunlap IMHO. Jean-Gilles was a disappointment, particularly because he has looked so strong in camp and Andrews remains out of practice.
 
pleasant suprises for me:

FB Play of Jeb Collins. He seemed poised in-game situations. I didnt see any mistakes out of his game. I dont think he has a prototypical FB build, but lets be real ... did Tapeh?

MLB play of Stewart Bradley. I dont think he will win any speed trails, but there is something about him that I like a lot more than someone like Simminnoe(sp). He looks a bit undersized, but something about his tackling and heads up play made me take notice.

All aroundplay of DJack. Seems to be a really hard on-field worker.

unpleasant surprises for me:

Greg Lewis is still on the team. I dont care how many preseason TD passes he catches

Akers still kicking FGs w/o Koy holding for him. Serious choke job

Booker running the ball and returning kickoffs

 
pleasant surprises form last night-Todd Herremans did a very good job sliding out to LTJuqua Parker had a couple of good plays at endUnpleasant surprises-Max Jean-Gillesentire special teams squad
Agreed on all fronts. Herremans (like Andrews) was a collegiate tackle so its not shocking to see him play reasonably well. He's not a fluid as Thomas but is still a better option than Winston Justice or King Dunlap IMHO. Jean-Gilles was a disappointment, particularly because he has looked so strong in camp and Andrews remains out of practice.
I was suprised when they drafted Jean-Giles a few years ago. He always struck me as a road grater type OL, not a pass blocking one.McNabb's numbers would look stellar if not for all the drops. I counted only 4 un-catchable balls yesterday and I suspect one of them was an incorrect route that was run because McNabb was getting on him as they were coming back to the huddle. I don't remember who it was though.
 
Desean Jackson is the first Eagles' offensive rookie since Westbrook that I get excited to see on the field and am disappointed when he comes off. Actually found myself checking the jerseys in each huddle shot to see if he was in there. He had a few drops but it's encouraging that McNabb looks to him so readily, on the receiving end of his first completion IIRC. Like JAA said, he seems to want to work while he's out there. He wants to play and he wants the ball. Not afraid to go over the middle and take a hit to make a play. Gotta love that.

Downside is clearly his size. Dude is small which will limit him in some facets of the game. Best case scenario is that he fills out some, puts on 15 lbs over the next few years and keeps his quicks and long range speed.

 
pleasant surprises form last night-Todd Herremans did a very good job sliding out to LTJuqua Parker had a couple of good plays at endUnpleasant surprises-Max Jean-Gillesentire special teams squad
Agreed on all fronts. Herremans (like Andrews) was a collegiate tackle so its not shocking to see him play reasonably well. He's not a fluid as Thomas but is still a better option than Winston Justice or King Dunlap IMHO. Jean-Gilles was a disappointment, particularly because he has looked so strong in camp and Andrews remains out of practice.
I was suprised when they drafted Jean-Giles a few years ago. He always struck me as a road grater type OL, not a pass blocking one.McNabb's numbers would look stellar if not for all the drops. I counted only 4 un-catchable balls yesterday and I suspect one of them was an incorrect route that was run because McNabb was getting on him as they were coming back to the huddle. I don't remember who it was though.
Yep...six drops. McNabb should've been 17 of 24. Of course, drops count statistically against a QB for fantasy purposes so I can't say that I take too much solace in that fact. We already knew McNabb was capable of elite fantasy production if his supporting cast can stick with him.
 
Desean Jackson is the first Eagles' offensive rookie since Westbrook that I get excited to see on the field and am disappointed when he comes off. Actually found myself checking the jerseys in each huddle shot to see if he was in there. He had a few drops but it's encouraging that McNabb looks to him so readily, on the receiving end of his first completion IIRC. Like JAA said, he seems to want to work while he's out there. He wants to play and he wants the ball. Not afraid to go over the middle and take a hit to make a play. Gotta love that.Downside is clearly his size. Dude is small which will limit him in some facets of the game. Best case scenario is that he fills out some, puts on 15 lbs over the next few years and keeps his quicks and long range speed.
i'd love to see Jackson spend some time next off season with Marvin Harrison. They seem to have similar games, at least comparing DJ now to Harrison of 10 years ago. And other than last year, Harrison always seemed able to avoid the big hit. I think thats a skill which would suit DJ well. Or, as the homer 'Burgh announcers liked to called him, Dejuan Johnson.ETA: My takeaways from the game-- o line looks good even with Max struggling in some pass protection and Tre out- D could be special this year if the LBs play to their potential- Special teams :shock: why is this so difficult?- Carolina's got a bunch of guys that wont make their team...or any NFL team for that matter- Chris Myers REALLY doesnt like to get his hair wet
 
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Note to self: I promise never to tell my fellow fans in this thread "I told you so" about DeSean Jackson...

 
I am very curious to know whether Jackson can stay this involved come the start of the regular season. He has been almost phenomanal so far.
I find it absolutely ridiculous/hilarious that Jackson is still listed behind Michael Gasperson on the depth chart (updated again this week). He's going to be starting by midseason at the worst, particularly if Reggie Brown's hammy turns out to be significant.
You really think so? Many of us thought Baskett would see the field a ton too 2 years ago. I've been extremely impressed so far, and I'm convinced he'll be a great weapon...but I can't help but wonder if he really has the complex offense down? I'm ecstatic from an Eagles HOMER and dynasty POV, but I'm more then a little hesitant from a fantasy redraft POV.
 
DeSean Jackson looks great. I worry about his size too. Especially if he's back there getting pounded on punt returns.

Just seems like he's gonna get injured just about every time he touches the ball. Jackson is clearly the most dynamic receiver on this team right now. That's probably more of an indictment on how poor the Eagles WRs are as a group... then it is a "thumbs up" for Jackson.

Watching the rest of the Eagles WR corp in action last night, it amazes me just how much better T.O. was.... and is..... and what a difference maker he was on this team. It just cannot be understated how much they miss Owens in this offense.

 
Note to self: I promise never to tell my fellow fans in this thread "I told you so" about DeSean Jackson...
Note to self: I promise not to put too much stock into pre-season games otherwise I'll think Greg Lewis is the next Chris Carter and Tony Hunt is Jerome Bettis. :shock:
 
Note to self: I promise never to tell my fellow fans in this thread "I told you so" about DeSean Jackson...
Note to self: I promise not to put too much stock into pre-season games otherwise I'll think Greg Lewis is the next Chris Carter and Tony Hunt is Jerome Bettis. :goodposting:
Don't think you have to worry about that first one. Anyone who's a fan of the Eagles knows that Greg Lewis stinks.
 
Note to self: I promise never to tell my fellow fans in this thread "I told you so" about DeSean Jackson...
Note to self: I promise not to put too much stock into pre-season games otherwise I'll think Greg Lewis is the next Chris Carter and Tony Hunt is Jerome Bettis. :thumbup:
I meant from my adoration of him before the draft and before pre-season even began... :goodposting: But he has been getting open consistently against 1st team DBs, both ours and now other teams as well. :thumbup:
 
Deranged: I know the Cardinals are saying that they won't trade Boldin, but I'm hoping that's because they want to be bowled over with an awesome offer. Any news on the Boldin/Eagles front?

 
I feel like a voice in the wilderness here, but I am completely convinced we will lose more games this year with Hanson as our 3rd CB and Boldin (or insert star WR here) at WR that we would with the current roster. If they could get Boldin (or whomever) without giving up Lito, I'm all for it.

 

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