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I drafted McNabb for the 1st time in 5 years yesterday. M-fer better play like he did at the end of last season. :hey:
Deranged you the man. I found this post to be the best topic of discussion for last 10 or so replies. I too have DM5 this year and actually I have more Eagles on my roster than ever before. They just fell that way. I try to stay away from my team but when value slaps you in the face, you roll with it.D. McNabbD. JacksonL.J. SmithAkersIf McNabb and Smith stay healthy I see this being the year they connect, and connect often. Top 10 TE? Sure. Top 5? Very possible.
 
Predictions..... oof.

Dallas 10-6

Philly 10-6

NYG 8-8

Wash 7-9

Top 2 make the playoffs - winner of Wk 17 wins division.

Others in playoffs:

NO/CAR

MIN

SEA

 
the only thing i have to add, is that it would be a bigger surprise to me if the Giants actually make the playoffs than it would for the Eagles to win the division.

 
Predictions..... oof.Dallas 10-6Philly 10-6NYG 8-8Wash 7-9Top 2 make the playoffs - winner of Wk 17 wins division.Others in playoffs:NO/CARMINSEA
I think the Eagles win the division runnng away if McNabb stays healthy. The defense is stacked, and the offense has the potential to be explosive.Philly 12-4Dallas 10-6Giants 8-8 Skins 6-10 (New offense and killer division...this team is much better then the typical 6-10 team)Also in: NOAri (Seattle is going backwards...someone else needs to win this division eventually)Min takes the north...barelyGB for the other WC if Rodgers stays upright, otherwise a surpising Atlanta (that o-line is much improved, and Ryan is for real) or Seattle after multiple tie-breakers.
 
renesauz said:
:thumbup: Only Eagles fans that actually watch the games posting here please.
OK...I've seen every game the last five years, and been a fan for over 30 years.What you've suggested made no sense. I'm not going to try to argue that Schobel is some sort of stud, because he isn't, but he is a veteran TE who would last all of 3 minutes on the waiver wire. This offense depends heavily on the TE position, and as such was keeping 3 TE's no matter what.Wilson was NOT any better at the FB position then Hunt, so wasn't really an option there.McDougel obviously was roster worthy, but the Eagles simply had no room for him, and his trade value was effectively zero because every other NFL team knew he'd be released.He was our NUMBER SEVEN DE...why are we even arguing about this? Because he might be a 3 or 4 somewhere else? Let's find something better to talk about...like how much action will Jackson see this weekend!!!!????
Now that's a good topic! I foresee about 50% of the offensive snaps and all of the PR duties. As much as I dislike the guy, Lewis might be a sneaky FF play this week. Could be his typical one good game all year.
 
I got the Birds going 9-7 with a possible wildcard birth. The Trent Cole still doesn't have quality DE help on the other end and I think the offense, minus McNabb and Westbrook, will struggle to score points in the Red Zone again. I also have feeling putting Tony hunt in at fullback is a bad idea.

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
Predictions..... oof.Dallas 10-6Philly 10-6NYG 8-8Wash 7-9Top 2 make the playoffs - winner of Wk 17 wins division.Others in playoffs:NO/CARMINSEA
I agree completely. :hifive: Go Birds.PSYou forgot DeSean = ROY :confused:
 
I got the Birds going 9-7 with a possible wildcard birth. The Trent Cole still doesn't have quality DE help on the other end and I think the offense, minus McNabb and Westbrook, will struggle to score points in the Red Zone again. I also have feeling putting Tony hunt in at fullback is a bad idea.
IMO, LJ Smith's return will help their Red Zone woes this year.
 
Anyone else see ESPN when they mentioned a deal for Lito is in the works? (I didn't but it was mentioned on a Eagles board)
I just read this on another site:
"At least one team has made a recent trade proposal to the Eagles," Rosenhaus wrote in an e-mail. "The Eagles didn't like the compensation and turned it down. I will not identify the team at this time. I think there is a very good chance Lito gets traded in the next few weeks."
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:rolleyes:

Hard not to be giddy with a start like that. Despite all his success, Reid was only 3-6 in openers and 1-3 in home openers before today. I do think that this game was as much about how horrible the Rams are as it was how good the Eagles might be, but everything I hoped to see was there:

*** McNabb is healthy, was accurate, and moved around the pocket

*** Shawn Andrews and Tra Thomas were healthy and dominating

*** Westbrook did his usual thing

*** L.J. Smith dropped a few balls but also made plays in the red zone

*** DeSean Jackson was a BEAST...not only did he catch 6 for over 100, but he went up for balls in traffic and broke that big punt return :ptts:

*** Our special teams were fantastic, the coverage units were awesome

*** The defense was aggressive

*** Stewart Bradley is already better than Trotter was, he's far more disciplined and a tackling machine

*** Asante Samuel had three possible INTs in his hands, two of which would've been returned for scores...he won't let many of those drop

 
:loco:Hard not to be giddy with a start like that. Despite all his success, Reid was only 3-6 in openers and 1-3 in home openers before today. I do think that this game was as much about how horrible the Rams are as it was how good the Eagles might be, but everything I hoped to see was there:*** McNabb is healthy, was accurate, and moved around the pocket*** Shawn Andrews and Tra Thomas were healthy and dominating*** Westbrook did his usual thing*** L.J. Smith dropped a few balls but also made plays in the red zone*** DeSean Jackson was a BEAST...not only did he catch 6 for over 100, but he went up for balls in traffic and broke that big punt return :pickle: *** Our special teams were fantastic, the coverage units were awesome*** The defense was aggressive*** Stewart Bradley is already better than Trotter was, he's far more disciplined and a tackling machine*** Asante Samuel had three possible INTs in his hands, two of which would've been returned for scores...he won't let many of those drop
I was impressed by the Eagles as well. I'm looking forward to the Philly/Dallas matchup next Monday night, it will be an extremely physical game.
 
Jason Wood said:
:hifive:Hard not to be giddy with a start like that. Despite all his success, Reid was only 3-6 in openers and 1-3 in home openers before today. I do think that this game was as much about how horrible the Rams are as it was how good the Eagles might be, but everything I hoped to see was there:*** McNabb is healthy, was accurate, and moved around the pocket*** Shawn Andrews and Tra Thomas were healthy and dominating*** Westbrook did his usual thing*** L.J. Smith dropped a few balls but also made plays in the red zone*** DeSean Jackson was a BEAST...not only did he catch 6 for over 100, but he went up for balls in traffic and broke that big punt return :pickle: *** Our special teams were fantastic, the coverage units were awesome*** The defense was aggressive*** Stewart Bradley is already better than Trotter was, he's far more disciplined and a tackling machine*** Asante Samuel had three possible INTs in his hands, two of which would've been returned for scores...he won't let many of those drop
:popcorn: Wow, only one post on the game?It was only the Rams but I'm glad they came out firing and took care of business.They've looked pretty lethargic to start off the last few seasons so glad to see some fire there.Hopefully they keep up the intensity and don't give away games early like the last couple years.Can't wait til next Monday night, will be a much better test to see where we're at.Go Eagles!
 
I love having 3 hour parties to start off the season. Last time I did that was 2004...just sayin...

DeSean vs. TO next week! :lmao:

 
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.

How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?

 
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
I didn't notice Lito in there a whole lot, but I wasn't really looking. Samuel completely shut Holt down. The d-line pressure seemed to come more from the middle, not the ends. Bradley was in all the right places all day.
 
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
I didn't notice Lito in there a whole lot, but I wasn't really looking. Samuel completely shut Holt down. The d-line pressure seemed to come more from the middle, not the ends. Bradley was in all the right places all day.
This question isnt a fair one, but how would you compare Bradley with Mark Simminou?
 
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
the defense as a whole looked fierce and extremely fast. From my recollection, there were about 5 or 6 dropped INTs, 3 by asante, 1 by lito, 1 by dawkins, 1 by mikell. anyways, to your questions..The ends looked strong. they were getting pressure on the qb as usual, but were very good against the run, which was the knock on the eagles de's in recent years. Cole got seperation at times, but it looked to me like they were sliding double coverage to cole most of the time he was in. The box was always moving. People in and out, blitzes comin from different people and different places, constantly. They ran a handful of corner/safety blitzes, lito had a sure sack and barely missed bulger staggering him, cant remember who, but someone mopped up the sack. mikell got in fast on one play for a sack. I'd say all 3 CB's were on the field for close to 2/3 the game, this is easily because the rams were behind and had to pass, but lito/asante/sheldon looked like they could shut down any group of wr's in the league, i look for the birds to keep all 3 on the field as much as possible with all 3 being good against the run and the pass. nobody for the rams could get open for anything more then maybe a 5-10 yard pass for what looked like the entire game and samuel shut holt down all game.all in all, i loved what the defense did yesterday. infact, i loved what the entire team did. Offense, defense, special teams.. desean jackson is legit. the whole team is HEALTHY and in sync. that is a very dangerous thing for everyone who thought this team was going to be middle of the road again.. But it was the rams, lets see what they do against some real competition with dallas next week. I'm lovin what i've seen though. GO BIRDS :P
 
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Very nice start to the season. What pleased me most was not the numbers that Djax put up but the way he made a couple of those catches. He was completely covered on two of those and I was shocked to see him come down with the ball. The kid has great concentration and by the looks of it, some very nice hands.

Lets hope he can keep this up for the majority of the season.

 
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
I didn't notice Lito in there a whole lot, but I wasn't really looking. Samuel completely shut Holt down. The d-line pressure seemed to come more from the middle, not the ends. Bradley was in all the right places all day.
This question isnt a fair one, but how would you compare Bradley with Mark Simminou?
Bradley is much bigger? Tough to imagine him not getting off blocks. He seems to be more intelligent, but it's just too early to say. ???
 
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
I didn't notice Lito in there a whole lot, but I wasn't really looking. Samuel completely shut Holt down. The d-line pressure seemed to come more from the middle, not the ends. Bradley was in all the right places all day.
This question isnt a fair one, but how would you compare Bradley with Mark Simminou?
Bradley is much bigger? Tough to imagine him not getting off blocks. He seems to be more intelligent, but it's just too early to say. ???
;) simminou always seemed like his head was on a swivel, getting lost in coverage/blitzes/etc, bradley is definately bigger and seems to be a much smarter and more instintive player. he was in and/or around almost every play within 15 yards of scrimmage yesterday.
 
I looking forward to Monday night, should be a great game. I was impressed with the Eagles intensity and they looked like a team ready to play. The Defense was more impressive to me then the Offense as it was hard to tell against the Rams. The Dec 28th game is going to be a big game I am thinking.

ETA: DeSean is legit.

 
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I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
I didn't notice Lito in there a whole lot, but I wasn't really looking. Samuel completely shut Holt down. The d-line pressure seemed to come more from the middle, not the ends. Bradley was in all the right places all day.
Lito and Sheldon alternated opposite Samuel; I didn't have an exact snap count obviously but they were both on the field quite a bit.
I only get 1 game per time slot here in MA. Lucky me I got to watch the Pats.How did the ends look? Was Cole getting seperation? How agressive was the box? How about corner blites? How many schemes did we have with all 3 CBs? Is that a reason why the Rams couldnt pass the ball and we were able to shut down Holt?
I didn't notice Lito in there a whole lot, but I wasn't really looking. Samuel completely shut Holt down. The d-line pressure seemed to come more from the middle, not the ends. Bradley was in all the right places all day.
This question isnt a fair one, but how would you compare Bradley with Mark Simminou?
Simmy was a hard working but a placeholder. He wasn't a playmaker but was just solid enough to not give up huge plays. Bradley was in total command of the defense; he was putting others in position and having guys shift around and you can see he's such a strong guy. He was in all the right places and, if it's any indication of how he'll play most weeks, he's the best linebacker we've had in a LONG time.
 
The way Desean Jackson was able to make plays on the ball wtih CB's all over him was very encouraging. This kid could be special.

:goodposting:

 
I am most impressed with Asante. He was covering a legit, stud WR1 in Holt and Asante completely shut him down.

Other than that, its hard to tell exactly where the Birds are at since the Rams are pa-thetic. Next Monday is going to be Uge, i already cant wait.

 
congrats to the Eagles and their fans. they took care of business. next Monday is what it's all about. the Cowboys and Eagles at Texas Stadium!

remember, the Cowboys went to a hostile dog pound and dominated the Browns. :goodposting: cant wait for Monday!

 
Needed to bump this up to the front with Cowboys week. Good article by Brookover today.

A line on the Eagles-Cowboys gameBy Bob Brookover Inquirer Staff WriterYou're going to hear about Terrell Owens and Tony Romo, Jason Witten and Marion Barber. You're going to hear about Brian Westbrook and Donovan McNabb, DeSean Jackson and L.J. Smith.Know this: None of the above will determine the outcome of Monday night's epic Week 2 grudge match between the Eagles and Dallas Cowboys.Sure, one of the above might throw or catch or run for the winning touchdown, but the difference makers in the Eagles' final regular-season game at Texas Stadium will not be the "skill" players.The winner of this game will be the team that does a better job of protecting its own quarterback and pressuring the other team's quarterback into mistakes. The winner of this game will be the team with the better front seven on defense and the better offensive line.You may be bored whenever Eagles coach Andy Reid says, "It all begins with the offensive and defensive lines," but that philosophy has made his team a Super Bowl contender during most of his 10 seasons in Philadelphia.Sure, the story line these days in Dallas is T.O. and Romo, but the bottom-line reason the Cowboys are better is because of how much they have improved in recent years along the offensive and defensive lines.If you watched Dallas' season-opening win at Cleveland, you probably noticed how neat Romo's uniform looked after every play. Good pass rushes only require a count of three-Mississippi before the quarterback is planted on the playing field. Romo could have done the backstroke across the mighty Mississippi without feeling any pressure to throw against the Browns.Romo completed 24 of 32 passes for 320 yards. His offensive line, anchored by veteran tackles Flozell Adams and Marc Colombo with Pro Bowl center Andre Gurode in the middle, made it look easy.Of course, Donovan McNabb's big day against the St. Louis Rams was equally effortless because Tra Thomas, Todd Herremans, Jamaal Jackson, Shawn Andrews and Jon Runyan kept the quarterback cleaner than Disney World's Main Street USA.Give guys like Romo and McNabb time and watch the scoreboard light up, especially when they have talent like Owens and Jackson, Barber and Westbrook, Witten and Smith making plays.If teams pressure quarterbacks like Romo and McNabb, they can become every bit as pedestrian as Rex Grossman.Both teams have good evidence of that on film.To understand how the Eagles have won in Dallas in each of the last two seasons, look at the pressure they put on Romo.When the Eagles stunned us all on Christmas night two years ago, the Cowboys were a red-hot team with a white-hot young quarterback that had a chance to clinch the NFC East title at home. Instead, they lost to Jeff Garcia and the Eagles, who went on to win their fifth and most shocking division title under Reid.The pressure the Eagles put on Romo and the offensive line's ability to protect Garcia had more to do with the outcome than anything else. Romo was sacked three times that night. Result: Eagles 23, Cowboys 7.Fast-forward to the first meeting between the teams a year ago at Lincoln Financial Field: McNabb forced throws and fumbled the football while trying to escape from pressure. He was sacked three times while Romo remained as clean as he was against the Browns with a similar result: Cowboys 38, Eagles 17.Six weeks later, with the Eagles out of contention but the Cowboys still trying to lock up home-field advantage, it was an entirely different story. Both defenses dominated that game, with each quarterback being dropped four times.Romo, however, made more mistakes under duress, throwing three interceptions as the high-powered Cowboys failed to score a touchdown for the first time all season. McNabb did not throw an interception and the Eagles won, 10-6.Both teams have the personnel to bring the pressure on defense.Like Reid, former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells understood the importance of the guys up front. He used four of his eight picks on defensive linemen or linebackers in the 2005 draft, including two in the first round. All four - DeMarcus Ware, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty and Jay Ratliff - are now starters.The Eagles, meanwhile, appear to have their fastest and most athletic linebackers since Jeremiah Trotter, Carlos Emmons and Shawn Barber earlier this decade, along with - at least for now - a healthy rotation of defensive tackles and ends.If the Eagles are to pull off yet another upset in Big D, it will be because Trent Cole forced a mistake by Romo or Stewart Bradley got to the quarterback on a linebacker blitz, a mission that seemed impossible a year ago. If the Cowboys win at home for just the third time in the last nine years against the Eagles, it will be because Ware got past Thomas and pressured McNabb.You're going to hear a lot about T.O. and Romo, Donovan and Westbrook, but this game is going to be about the guys you seldom hear about.
 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :goodposting: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.

 
i'm so glad both teams are 1-0 and looked dominant in their wins. you couldnt script a better week 2 matchup, imo. this will be as physical a game as you will see all year. :goodposting:

 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :goodposting: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
I agree to a point, but I also get very frustrated in here sometimes when it comes to the overall opinion of the Eagles. They seem to be one of the SP's favorite teams to hate on, often in illogical ways. Some of the posts lately (in other threads) illustrate this very well. You could also say that Super-Bowl contenders win most of their games, even the tough road games.

I fully expect Philly to give Dallas a very hard time on Monday. My brain says Dallas 31-27...my heart says Philly by the same.

 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :blackdot: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
I agree to a point, but I also get very frustrated in here sometimes when it comes to the overall opinion of the Eagles. They seem to be one of the SP's favorite teams to hate on, often in illogical ways. Some of the posts lately (in other threads) illustrate this very well. You could also say that Super-Bowl contenders win most of their games, even the tough road games.

I fully expect Philly to give Dallas a very hard time on Monday. My brain says Dallas 31-27...my heart says Philly by the same.
Well of course I want Philly to win and certainly think it's possible. I'm just saying that if Dallas wins I don't want to hear everyone ripping the Birds and calling the Week One win a faux indicator b/c the Rams stink, etc...As long as we don't get embarrassed out there on Monday night, nothing about the outcome of that particular game is going to impede my enthusiasm for this season.
 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :thumbup: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
I agree to a point, but I also get very frustrated in here sometimes when it comes to the overall opinion of the Eagles. They seem to be one of the SP's favorite teams to hate on, often in illogical ways. Some of the posts lately (in other threads) illustrate this very well. You could also say that Super-Bowl contenders win most of their games, even the tough road games.

I fully expect Philly to give Dallas a very hard time on Monday. My brain says Dallas 31-27...my heart says Philly by the same.
Well of course I want Philly to win and certainly think it's possible. I'm just saying that if Dallas wins I don't want to hear everyone ripping the Birds and calling the Week One win a faux indicator b/c the Rams stink, etc...As long as we don't get embarrassed out there on Monday night, nothing about the outcome of that particular game is going to impede my enthusiasm for this season.
And that sir, I firmly agree on.The problem is....if Dallas wins, Philly will be fake in many people's minds regardless of the score or how Dallas wins. Nothing short of a big Eagles win will legitimize the Eagles in the minds of many.

Most people write off last year's Eagles as an "average" and/or "over-rated" team, conveniantly forgetting several very impressive wins and heart-breaking losses by them last year. We went 8-8, but lost to mighty GB (who almost went to the SB) on a muffed punt, nearly beat mighty NE on the road, and had that inexplicable loss to Chicago on a 2 minute drive that still gives me nightmares. Last year's team should have been 10-6 and in the playoffs. They were top ten in offensive and defensive yardage. They were NOT average or over-rated at all, but a very strong argument could be made that they were just the opposite....over-looked.

Fast forward to this year. Healthy McNabb. Better/deeper D-line. D. Jackson/Demps returning kicks. Healthy LJ Smith. Addition of Asante Samuel, maturation of the young LB's....etc. etc.

This team is not only better then last years team, it's MUCH better...and last year's team was pretty darn good. So...why are so many well-informed folks here in the SP still so negative towards them? This team has contender stamped all over it, but apparently in special ink that many can't see. (I realize I'm preaching to the choir in this thread, but still.....) NOBODY should be surprised by Philly playing like a contender because the signs were there, but many are!

 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :goodposting: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
I agree to a point, but I also get very frustrated in here sometimes when it comes to the overall opinion of the Eagles. They seem to be one of the SP's favorite teams to hate on, often in illogical ways. Some of the posts lately (in other threads) illustrate this very well. You could also say that Super-Bowl contenders win most of their games, even the tough road games.

I fully expect Philly to give Dallas a very hard time on Monday. My brain says Dallas 31-27...my heart says Philly by the same.
Well of course I want Philly to win and certainly think it's possible. I'm just saying that if Dallas wins I don't want to hear everyone ripping the Birds and calling the Week One win a faux indicator b/c the Rams stink, etc...As long as we don't get embarrassed out there on Monday night, nothing about the outcome of that particular game is going to impede my enthusiasm for this season.
And that sir, I firmly agree on.The problem is....if Dallas wins, Philly will be fake in many people's minds regardless of the score or how Dallas wins. Nothing short of a big Eagles win will legitimize the Eagles in the minds of many.

Most people write off last year's Eagles as an "average" and/or "over-rated" team, conveniantly forgetting several very impressive wins and heart-breaking losses by them last year. We went 8-8, but lost to mighty GB (who almost went to the SB) on a muffed punt, nearly beat mighty NE on the road, and had that inexplicable loss to Chicago on a 2 minute drive that still gives me nightmares. Last year's team should have been 10-6 and in the playoffs. They were top ten in offensive and defensive yardage. They were NOT average or over-rated at all, but a very strong argument could be made that they were just the opposite....over-looked.

Fast forward to this year. Healthy McNabb. Better/deeper D-line. D. Jackson/Demps returning kicks. Healthy LJ Smith. Addition of Asante Samuel, maturation of the young LB's....etc. etc.

This team is not only better then last years team, it's MUCH better...and last year's team was pretty darn good. So...why are so many well-informed folks here in the SP still so negative towards them? This team has contender stamped all over it, but apparently in special ink that many can't see. (I realize I'm preaching to the choir in this thread, but still.....) NOBODY should be surprised by Philly playing like a contender because the signs were there, but many are!
I agree on all accounts. Best part is, this team is still coming together. This Dallas win could give a lot of our kids much needed confidence and swagger for this season. A win AT Dallas would be a huge building block.
 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :lmao: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
Why would a Dallas lost say more about us? I don't follow this thinking it sounds like fan speak. These appear to be 2 pretty equally matched teams. A couple of calls or breaks could be the difference in the game. Look at the Cowboys/Giants last year, what did Dallas beating them twice in the regular season mean?
 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :) ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
Why would a Dallas lost say more about us? I don't follow this thinking it sounds like fan speak. These appear to be 2 pretty equally matched teams. A couple of calls or breaks could be the difference in the game. Look at the Cowboys/Giants last year, what did Dallas beating them twice in the regular season mean?
Because Dallas is at Home, they are coming off a drubbing of a pretty good Browns team, and are widely regarded as the favorite to win the NFC...while the Eagles are expected to be a wildcard team at best this year. If the Birds go into Dallas and take this game from them on the national stage, might be an early sign that the Cowboys still aren't ready to take it to the next level. I believe that's the point.
 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :thumbup: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
Why would a Dallas lost say more about us? I don't follow this thinking it sounds like fan speak. These appear to be 2 pretty equally matched teams. A couple of calls or breaks could be the difference in the game. Look at the Cowboys/Giants last year, what did Dallas beating them twice in the regular season mean?
Because Dallas is at Home, they are coming off a drubbing of a pretty good Browns team, and are widely regarded as the favorite to win the NFC...while the Eagles are expected to be a wildcard team at best this year. If the Birds go into Dallas and take this game from them on the national stage, might be an early sign that the Cowboys still aren't ready to take it to the next level. I believe that's the point.
good point. the expectations for the Cowboys is a SB, period. they've put together a very solid team, they need to get it done.that said, you can throw all analysis out the window! this is an NFC East grudge match!
 
In all fairness, this MNF game will say more about the Cowboys if they lose than it would the Eagles. Two solid teams, hated divisions rivals, I would expect the Cowboys to win the game. If they don't, that's their bad. Holding serve at home against your division is part of being a title contender (unless you're last year's Giants :doh: ) and I see Dallas as one of the NFC's best teams.
Why would a Dallas lost say more about us? I don't follow this thinking it sounds like fan speak. These appear to be 2 pretty equally matched teams. A couple of calls or breaks could be the difference in the game. Look at the Cowboys/Giants last year, what did Dallas beating them twice in the regular season mean?
Because Dallas is at Home, they are coming off a drubbing of a pretty good Browns team, and are widely regarded as the favorite to win the NFC...while the Eagles are expected to be a wildcard team at best this year. If the Birds go into Dallas and take this game from them on the national stage, might be an early sign that the Cowboys still aren't ready to take it to the next level. I believe that's the point.
Hey Tong Po,That's exactly how I see it, thanks for articulating that. To me, if the Birds lose tonight, while the national media may write us off, I certainly won't. Let's see how we do at the Linc against Romo and friends. But if we WIN, I think that has to take some luster of the Cowboys; who were invariably the NFC favorites in many eyes.
 
They need to trade McNabb to the Vikings and get whatever they can.

He is just good enough to keep you in the big game and make a lot of great plays...and then choke like chump when it matters most

 
Ugh, that was brutal, we just let too many games slip away like that.

Mostly play well but give up big plays, make big mistakes, and tighten up when the game's on the line.

I put that loss squarely on McNabb, his fumbled handoff, and his inability to perform in the clutch once again.

:confused:

 

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