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There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Before online pics were common, I went on some blind dates based on a description only. On a few occasions the woman had blatantly lied and I very blatantly got back in my car and left. :lmao: Go ahead and post your income, cool experiment.

 
What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
that's what I did when I hired that black college girl right after i got divorced. Worked for me. Should have had her audition first, though. :shrug:

 
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There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
i think i did that at first but found that the profiles i was looking at didn't in 9 out of 10 cases. i stopped doing it when nearly broke women and those seeking arrangements kept contacting me.

and, yes, it sucks to have that kind of "surprise". doubly so when you kind of like getting to know them. the worst are those that lose their moxie and really self-conscious. i never asked my dates to be model-thin, as there are plenty of women who are sexy and attractive with curves, but some conflated "surprise" with "disappointment" somehow. those dates got real awkward real fast.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
i think i did that at first but found that the profiles i was looking at didn't in 9 out of 10 cases. i stopped doing it when nearly broke women and those seeking arrangements kept contacting me.

and, yes, it sucks to have that kind of "surprise". doubly so when you kind of like getting to know them. the worst are those that lose their moxie and really self-conscious. i never asked my dates to be model-thin, as there are plenty of women who are sexy and attractive with curves, but some conflated "surprise" with "disappointment" somehow. those dates got real awkward real fast.
Sounds like she's looking for a baby daddy.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
"Okay so we'll have two Long Island iced teas and...Jabba, what're you drinking?"
 
May have found another winner last night. Met her off OKCupid. Met at a bar and got along great. Tentative plans for this weekend I should solidify in a day or so.

I've changed my details on there to "open relationship" and explicitly mention I'm seeing someone else in the profile. She seems cool with it so far. She's not looking for a serious relationship. She just wants someone chill to hang out with. So, possibly a member of "the harem", while I'm still involved with the nymphomaniac who had to move out of state but still visit from time to time.

Cute, tiny girl, must weigh like 90 pounds. Fit though. Not working a "real job", just doing odd gigs and was growing and selling weed for a while (to a MMJ dispensary, not high school kids or anything like that). No motivation to do anything else with her life at this point. I dig it.
She sounds perfect. :thumbup:
 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
:hijack: This is the same problem with vehicles. We need see-through door panels.
 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.

 
If you're already seated, it's kind of the gentlemanly thing to do to stand up when she arrives Might as well give her a quick shoulder hug while you're at it.

I'm not a big fan of handshakes between men and women unless in a purely business setting.

 
If you're already seated, it's kind of the gentlemanly thing to do to stand up when she arrives Might as well give her a quick shoulder hug while you're at it.

I'm not a big fan of handshakes between men and women unless in a purely business setting.
This.

 
May have found another winner last night. Met her off OKCupid. Met at a bar and got along great. Tentative plans for this weekend I should solidify in a day or so.

I've changed my details on there to "open relationship" and explicitly mention I'm seeing someone else in the profile. She seems cool with it so far. She's not looking for a serious relationship. She just wants someone chill to hang out with. So, possibly a member of "the harem", while I'm still involved with the nymphomaniac who had to move out of state but still visit from time to time.

Cute, tiny girl, must weigh like 90 pounds. Fit though. Not working a "real job", just doing odd gigs and was growing and selling weed for a while (to a MMJ dispensary, not high school kids or anything like that). No motivation to do anything else with her life at this point. I dig it.
She sounds perfect. :thumbup:
Oh man :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

The f'ing internet. I ####### tell ya.

I don't know what I did. Maybe I saved a busload of nuns and schoolchildren from going off a cliff or something. I dunno. But ####. Whatever I done did karma has decided to give it all back to me 100-fold.

This chick is an offdee 8 or 9. Easily one of the best looking I've ever been with. Body is perfect. Took her out to dinner, went back to my place. The situation started to unfold. She's aggressively going after it. I've got her completely undressed and we're rolling around on the bed. She starts :football: ; she's great at it. She gets me going really well, then stops. Asks me to do her a favor. I'm unable to say no to anything at this point. She hands me her cell phone and asks me to start taking pictures.

"My boyfriend is out of town. When he's gone, I'm allowed to do anything I want, as long as I document it for him and provide him evidence of how slutty I am."

Quicker than you can say "JAA" I'm mashing the shutter.

So, things continued and the ending was happy.

She starts talking after. He's into all sorts of kinky stuff. She likes it too. Says he's in town this weekend and there's a "group thing" going on. Wants to know if I'm in. On that I pause a bit. Not really my scene, I tell her. She's cool with that. She starts talking about other stuff she's into. Stripping for crowds, public stuff, says she'd like to try a sechs club someday. I mention my girlfriend was thinking about trying one too. She says "I'd go with you anytime you want."

Okaaaaay.

Anyway, she's really cool and we have tentative plans to see each other again.
Wow... Sounds like you should try to get the two of them together next time the other one is back in town.

 
May have found another winner last night. Met her off OKCupid. Met at a bar and got along great. Tentative plans for this weekend I should solidify in a day or so.

I've changed my details on there to "open relationship" and explicitly mention I'm seeing someone else in the profile. She seems cool with it so far. She's not looking for a serious relationship. She just wants someone chill to hang out with. So, possibly a member of "the harem", while I'm still involved with the nymphomaniac who had to move out of state but still visit from time to time.

Cute, tiny girl, must weigh like 90 pounds. Fit though. Not working a "real job", just doing odd gigs and was growing and selling weed for a while (to a MMJ dispensary, not high school kids or anything like that). No motivation to do anything else with her life at this point. I dig it.
She sounds perfect. :thumbup:
Oh man :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

The f'ing internet. I ####### tell ya.

I don't know what I did. Maybe I saved a busload of nuns and schoolchildren from going off a cliff or something. I dunno. But ####. Whatever I done did karma has decided to give it all back to me 100-fold.

This chick is an offdee 8 or 9. Easily one of the best looking I've ever been with. Body is perfect. Took her out to dinner, went back to my place. The situation started to unfold. She's aggressively going after it. I've got her completely undressed and we're rolling around on the bed. She starts :football: ; she's great at it. She gets me going really well, then stops. Asks me to do her a favor. I'm unable to say no to anything at this point. She hands me her cell phone and asks me to start taking pictures.

"My boyfriend is out of town. When he's gone, I'm allowed to do anything I want, as long as I document it for him and provide him evidence of how slutty I am."

Quicker than you can say "JAA" I'm mashing the shutter.

So, things continued and the ending was happy.

She starts talking after. He's into all sorts of kinky stuff. She likes it too. Says he's in town this weekend and there's a "group thing" going on. Wants to know if I'm in. On that I pause a bit. Not really my scene, I tell her. She's cool with that. She starts talking about other stuff she's into. Stripping for crowds, public stuff, says she'd like to try a sechs club someday. I mention my girlfriend was thinking about trying one too. She says "I'd go with you anytime you want."

Okaaaaay.

Anyway, she's really cool and we have tentative plans to see each other again.
I hate you

 
Sachs Clubs are ok, but you draw the line at group things? :oldunsure:
My impression from her comment was the group ratio would be very guy-heavy.
Can we say gang bang here?
I'm here for the gang bang.
Back of the line pops.
I'm going to treat it just like a HS keg party. Get your beer and then go right back to the end of the line. Finish your beer just before you get to the tap again.

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
:subscribe: :oldunsure:

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
I've found that ladies really enjoy my naval dress whites penis outfit.

 
So basically, after all that, I'm asking the following....

How ####ty is it to sleep with some other dude's fiance when

A) you don't know him

B) you'll likely never see the girl again

C) they're clearly having problems and probably won't end up married anyway (In my opinion)

D) She's clearly the aggressor.

Does it matter if you're both drunk and her friend isn't doing anything to stop her?
I always shied away in these situations and even got pissed when I found out later that a girl I hooked up with was married or had a bf. That's just me; plenty of guys have no issue with it. Seems like your conscience was bothering you all night, so you put it out there. In my opinion you did the right thing. She could've said, actually, the relationship with the fiancé is on shaky ground anyway, then given you the green light. But she didn't. She still cares about the dude. We can put aside how thoughtless it is to forget about your fiancé all night until someone brings it up, but she was pretty drunk too.And I know plenty of people believe the onus falls only on the attached person, and if I turn it down they'd go bang someone else anyway. Just me personally, I think it's a #### move to bang someone else's chick. :shrug:
Yeah, this is kind where my head is at on this one. Their engagement probably isn't going to work out anyway (This girl was going way beyond just being "naturally flirty". She'll cheat eventually) but he still bought her a ring. If things were the other way around, I obviously wouldn't appreciate someone banging my drunk fiance (regardless of who initiated)

And although I'll never see this girl again, I do have to see other members of the group. We've got the wedding in a few weeks and I'd hate for 2 members of the bridal party to be gossiping about how I nailed their engaged friend 6 weeks ago. Plus, my other buddy's new girlfriend (who was the other girl on the trip for the week) seems intent on hooking me up with someone. (is desperately trying to get me to tag along to her sister's birthday party in NYC next month) So in that sense, I'd hate to go from "my boyfriend's single friend" to "that guy who nailed a drunk engaged girl at the shore". Long term, I'm pretty sure this was a good play.
I approve of this though process.

 
May have found another winner last night. Met her off OKCupid. Met at a bar and got along great. Tentative plans for this weekend I should solidify in a day or so.

I've changed my details on there to "open relationship" and explicitly mention I'm seeing someone else in the profile. She seems cool with it so far. She's not looking for a serious relationship. She just wants someone chill to hang out with. So, possibly a member of "the harem", while I'm still involved with the nymphomaniac who had to move out of state but still visit from time to time.

Cute, tiny girl, must weigh like 90 pounds. Fit though. Not working a "real job", just doing odd gigs and was growing and selling weed for a while (to a MMJ dispensary, not high school kids or anything like that). No motivation to do anything else with her life at this point. I dig it.
She sounds perfect. :thumbup:
Oh man :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

The f'ing internet. I ####### tell ya.

I don't know what I did. Maybe I saved a busload of nuns and schoolchildren from going off a cliff or something. I dunno. But ####. Whatever I done did karma has decided to give it all back to me 100-fold.

This chick is an offdee 8 or 9. Easily one of the best looking I've ever been with. Body is perfect. Took her out to dinner, went back to my place. The situation started to unfold. She's aggressively going after it. I've got her completely undressed and we're rolling around on the bed. She starts :football: ; she's great at it. She gets me going really well, then stops. Asks me to do her a favor. I'm unable to say no to anything at this point. She hands me her cell phone and asks me to start taking pictures.

"My boyfriend is out of town. When he's gone, I'm allowed to do anything I want, as long as I document it for him and provide him evidence of how slutty I am."

Quicker than you can say "JAA" I'm mashing the shutter.

So, things continued and the ending was happy.

She starts talking after. He's into all sorts of kinky stuff. She likes it too. Says he's in town this weekend and there's a "group thing" going on. Wants to know if I'm in. On that I pause a bit. Not really my scene, I tell her. She's cool with that. She starts talking about other stuff she's into. Stripping for crowds, public stuff, says she'd like to try a sechs club someday. I mention my girlfriend was thinking about trying one too. She says "I'd go with you anytime you want."

Okaaaaay.

Anyway, she's really cool and we have tentative plans to see each other again.
Rules

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Brief hug.

I always called them or had them call me at least once before. Seemed to break some of the initial tension and mildly assured the other person that I at least sound like who I am saying I am and vice versa.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures.

Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
 
a little extra weight on a girl is okay if she has a cute face and big yabos.

There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures.
did she have big yabos? that might have been enough for me to go through with it.

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Brief hug.

I always called them or had them call me at least once before. Seemed to break some of the initial tension and mildly assured the other person that I at least sound like who I am saying I am and vice versa.
I really disagree on the calling part. Personally I think a call makes things more awkward and forced. I've talked to many girls who just rely on texting nowadays for initial conversation and seeing an incoming call from the guy immediately turns them off. Save the full conversations to the in-person dates where you can utilize eye contact and body positioning to your advantage.

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Brief hug.

I always called them or had them call me at least once before. Seemed to break some of the initial tension and mildly assured the other person that I at least sound like who I am saying I am and vice versa.
I really disagree on the calling part. Personally I think a call makes things more awkward and forced. I've talked to many girls who just rely on texting nowadays for initial conversation and seeing an incoming call from the guy immediately turns them off. Save the full conversations to the in-person dates where you can utilize eye contact and body positioning to your advantage.
Okay. I guess I should have clarified. Obviously only call if it seems obvious/non-creepy to do so. Usually, this seemed somewhat practical if I was running late or, after a series of brief but good text messages, I had some success calling to close. Nonetheless, do NOT initiate anything with a phone call. A few short, direct, and somewhat witty texts are the way to go. Do NOT carry on long phone conversations either. So much more effective to be efficient with all communication and send the message that you have a bunch of important #### going on and such.

ETA: Again, to those of you doing this, to be clear, and assuming the girl is <35, texting is the way to go. I'm just a proponent of a quick phone call if the opportunity arises.

 
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There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it?

As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.

 
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There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it? As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.
When I was single all I cared about was filling the spreadsheet. Two ####, a hole and a heartbeat. Volume. :thumbup:
 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
I think a quick hug is appropriate. It also depends on the setting and where you're positioned etc. if you're already seated, or whatever, you shouldn't jump up and make a big deal to climb out and give her a hug if it's just going to be awkward.Eta: also, just use you're gut. If you sense that she's not open for a hug, then definitely don't go for it.
If you're already seated, it's kind of the gentlemanly thing to do to stand up when she arrives Might as well give her a quick shoulder hug while you're at it.

I'm not a big fan of handshakes between men and women unless in a purely business setting.
If you're already seated, it's kind of the gentlemanly thing to do to stand up when she arrives Might as well give her a quick shoulder hug while you're at it.

I'm not a big fan of handshakes between men and women unless in a purely business setting.
This.
Had the coffee date today. Brief hug went over well and was reciprocated both meeting and departing. Good advice. Thanks.

Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Brief hug.

I always called them or had them call me at least once before. Seemed to break some of the initial tension and mildly assured the other person that I at least sound like who I am saying I am and vice versa.
I really disagree on the calling part. Personally I think a call makes things more awkward and forced. I've talked to many girls who just rely on texting nowadays for initial conversation and seeing an incoming call from the guy immediately turns them off. Save the full conversations to the in-person dates where you can utilize eye contact and body positioning to your advantage.
I subscribe to offdee's 'save the conversation for face-to-face' to take advantage of the non-verbal cues. Up until then we texted and I think it worked for the best.


Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
Date was going well until this, though. :hot:

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
Date was going well until this, though. :hot:
Must of picked the wrong penis costume

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
Date was going well until this, though. :hot:
Must of picked the wrong penis costume
Didn't go with one. They were all too small :shrug:

 
Quick etiquette question by a mid-40s guy on his first coffee date with someone other than his ex in 18 years...

Greet her with a handshake or brief hug? First face to face meeting as it's been brief match.com emails and phone texts. Haven't shared much outside of profiles so no obvious chemistry yet.
Things have changed considerably. Much like a wine steward presents a bottle of wine for your inspection before opening, it is customary to take out your penis and present it to a lady at the beginning of the date. Women nowadays are busy with careers and such, so they don't want to waste time on a date unless they know there will be a worthwhile payoff. There are various little penis outfits you can buy to make a nice presentation, like tuxedos, sports jerseys, etc.
Date was going well until this, though. :hot:
Must of picked the wrong penis costume
Didn't go with one. They were all too small :shrug:
Top hat and put on monocle on the tip. The Mr. Peanut look always gets 'em.
I knew I should have asked this question yesterday. Would have had more time to prepare. Oh well, opportunity lost.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it? As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.
When I was single all I cared about was filling the spreadsheet. Two ####, a hole and a heartbeat. Volume. :thumbup:
I got there. Just took some time. Trust me, I wish I could go back and tell younger Woz to "punish" the chubby fibber.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it? As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.
When I was single all I cared about was filling the spreadsheet. Two ####, a hole and a heartbeat. Volume. :thumbup:
I got there. Just took some time. Trust me, I wish I could go back and tell younger Woz to "punish" the chubby fibber.
Meh, I applaud the dedication, but this wasn't ever in my wheelhouse and I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever. I'd rather get a good night's sleep than bang away at something I wasn't attracted to.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it? As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.
When I was single all I cared about was filling the spreadsheet. Two ####, a hole and a heartbeat. Volume. :thumbup:
I got there. Just took some time. Trust me, I wish I could go back and tell younger Woz to "punish" the chubby fibber.
Meh, I applaud the dedication, but this wasn't ever in my wheelhouse and I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever. I'd rather get a good night's sleep than bang away at something I wasn't attracted to.
:confused:

You don't actually spend the entire night with them. Heck, some of the best nights of sleep I ever got were when I'd get an offdee 6 to come to my place say like a Sunday night at 8 PM, bring me food, be incredibly selfish in the bedroom, then send her on her way right after so I can peacefully sleep alone in my own bed.

 
Huh. Been a week on match.com. Is this what shooting fish in a barrel is like? Gotta say it's not bad.
Pretty much. If you're having success there and want to up the game, give eharmony a shot too. You should be able to a date every night of the week.

 
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it? As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.
When I was single all I cared about was filling the spreadsheet. Two ####, a hole and a heartbeat. Volume. :thumbup:
I got there. Just took some time. Trust me, I wish I could go back and tell younger Woz to "punish" the chubby fibber.
Meh, I applaud the dedication, but this wasn't ever in my wheelhouse and I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever. I'd rather get a good night's sleep than bang away at something I wasn't attracted to.
:confused: You don't actually spend the entire night with them. Heck, some of the best nights of sleep I ever got were when I'd get an offdee 6 to come to my place say like a Sunday night at 8 PM, bring me food, be incredibly selfish in the bedroom, then send her on her way right after so I can peacefully sleep alone in my own bed.
Ok, well then let me rephrase this. I don't want to bang ugly chicks.

 
offdee said:
Zow said:
There is nothing more defeating than showing up to a date and the girl you are meeting weighs 20+ lbs more than her photos.

What is the ruling on putting your income info up on Match. I've always refrained, but I am wondering if it would be an interesting experiment to throw it up there for a few days.
Full body photos are almost a must at this point. First date I went on only had face and upper half photos. Cute face, small ####, and the biggest legs and ### I have ever seen. Looked like Jabba The Hut as she walked into the restaurant.
Yep. But even there there's no guarantee. There should be a story from way early in this thread of one of my first idates. Met with a chick who had full body photos and was a super attractive blonde. Got excited and stupid young me set up a reservation at a really nice restaurant that I couldn't afford.* She shows up and, while I recognized the face, she was easily thirty to fifty pounds heavier than she represented in her pictures. Pissed me off enough that I quickly made up some BS line about there being a mess up with our reservation and suggested we head across the street to a Starbucks instead. She had a gift card so I didn't offer to pay. Spent about 15 minutes with her and bailed. She was noticeably disappointed and had dressed nice and such, but I only felt slightly bad about it since I felt like she lied to me. What's funny too is that she actually didn't look that terrible and, frankly, since I dig a little bit of weight on a girl, had she actually showed current photos on her profile from the start I probably would have still gone out with her. I even considered sending her a message suggesting she update her pictures and that they are misleading, but figured I had nothing to gain from it.

*Would do this because it was the first real date place I had taken the ex and got superstitious about it. God I was a loser for a period of time.
I never understand these stories. Okay so she's not what you expected, but you're already out -- why not get liquored up and see if you can bang her??
Looking back now I don't disagree with you, but you can't at least understand it? As for my excuse, I was young and stupidly trying to quickly replace a girl/relationshipl I was super into. I viewed anything short of a loving relationship with a super model as failure. I also hadn't yet gained an appreciation for some good, casual sex with sub-10s who are willing to give so much more effort.
When I was single all I cared about was filling the spreadsheet. Two ####, a hole and a heartbeat. Volume. :thumbup:
I got there. Just took some time. Trust me, I wish I could go back and tell younger Woz to "punish" the chubby fibber.
Meh, I applaud the dedication, but this wasn't ever in my wheelhouse and I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever. I'd rather get a good night's sleep than bang away at something I wasn't attracted to.
:confused: You don't actually spend the entire night with them. Heck, some of the best nights of sleep I ever got were when I'd get an offdee 6 to come to my place say like a Sunday night at 8 PM, bring me food, be incredibly selfish in the bedroom, then send her on her way right after so I can peacefully sleep alone in my own bed.
Ok, well then let me rephrase this. I don't want to bang ugly chicks.
Few beers, some weed and dim lighting, WALA a 6 can pass for an 8. What part of free takeout delivery service, on-demand BJs and free airport shuttle are you not understanding?
 
I got this message from a 20-year-old Chinese girl. She's pretty attractive. Can I post her picture? I won't until I hear it is OK.

I want yo so badly in my life I can feel you across the oceans that separate our two countries. I want to spend my rest life with you ,honey. I can feel that your body is desiring me, and I would foldling your hardness till it drops and you robbing my ** till it is wet enough, then we wanna be in one. I would let your hardness slide into my **, and slide in and out. then I would scream like an animal, we would spend our time in bed , in coach, on the floor, in the washroom..... I would be naughty and play with your softness after you cum into my **.

You must wanna be with me and in me for a whole day and we just keep making till we are really really tired. then i would sleep with you with my hand patt your chest, and feel your breath. After you wake up, I would bring you delicious food and drink that you like best. we start enjoy a new day, and go out to do sth else.

Right here waiting for you, your sweet wife.
I am pretty sure if I flew to China tomorrow I'd be banging a different 20-year-old on a nightly basis. And I've already established in this thread that I am old, overweight and have no game.

 
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So basically, after all that, I'm asking the following....

How ####ty is it to sleep with some other dude's fiance when

A) you don't know him

B) you'll likely never see the girl again

C) they're clearly having problems and probably won't end up married anyway (In my opinion)

D) She's clearly the aggressor.

Does it matter if you're both drunk and her friend isn't doing anything to stop her?
I always shied away in these situations and even got pissed when I found out later that a girl I hooked up with was married or had a bf. That's just me; plenty of guys have no issue with it. Seems like your conscience was bothering you all night, so you put it out there. In my opinion you did the right thing. She could've said, actually, the relationship with the fiancé is on shaky ground anyway, then given you the green light. But she didn't. She still cares about the dude. We can put aside how thoughtless it is to forget about your fiancé all night until someone brings it up, but she was pretty drunk too.And I know plenty of people believe the onus falls only on the attached person, and if I turn it down they'd go bang someone else anyway. Just me personally, I think it's a #### move to bang someone else's chick. :shrug:
Yeah, this is kind where my head is at on this one. Their engagement probably isn't going to work out anyway (This girl was going way beyond just being "naturally flirty". She'll cheat eventually) but he still bought her a ring. If things were the other way around, I obviously wouldn't appreciate someone banging my drunk fiance (regardless of who initiated)

And although I'll never see this girl again, I do have to see other members of the group. We've got the wedding in a few weeks and I'd hate for 2 members of the bridal party to be gossiping about how I nailed their engaged friend 6 weeks ago. Plus, my other buddy's new girlfriend (who was the other girl on the trip for the week) seems intent on hooking me up with someone. (is desperately trying to get me to tag along to her sister's birthday party in NYC next month) So in that sense, I'd hate to go from "my boyfriend's single friend" to "that guy who nailed a drunk engaged girl at the shore". Long term, I'm pretty sure this was a good play.
I approve of this though process.
I was with a girl like this for a long time. She would always reach out to others under the guise that she was unhappy. Which might have been true but she never bothered to mention it to me only any guy that had a 6-pack and a cute smile. It's funny she never reached out to some porker to help her though difficult times...anyway. I'd be careful, odds are she's done this a million times and her man keeps a close eye on her. My line of thinking has always been that there are too many hot single and available girls out there to worry about messing with another mans woman. I think we need a little bro-code because we've all probably been the fiancee at some point in our lives.

 

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