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So, is this where all the single, lonely guys get to brag about how many cute 20-something year olds they are going to sleep with?You realize that most of you are single for a reason, right? :thumbup:
Because.... I just got separated???Join the fun..show us how it's done then.I love the wise cracks from the cheap seats.
Wow, settle down friend. You need to get laid man... :fishy:
do'nt try to ruin a great thread, carry on.
 
So, is this where all the single, lonely guys get to brag about how many cute 20-something year olds they are going to sleep with?You realize that most of you are single for a reason, right? :banned:
Because.... I just got separated???Join the fun..show us how it's done then.I love the wise cracks from the cheap seats.
Wow, settle down friend. You need to get laid man... :thumbup:
do'nt try to ruin a great thread, carry on.
Wouldn't think of it. I'm pulling for the underdog.
 
So, is this where all the single, lonely guys get to brag about how many cute 20-something year olds they are going to sleep with?You realize that most of you are single for a reason, right? :headbang:
Because.... I just got separated???Join the fun..show us how it's done then.I love the wise cracks from the cheap seats.
Wow, settle down friend. You need to get laid man... :thumbup:
do'nt try to ruin a great thread, carry on.
Wouldn't think of it. I'm pulling for the underdog.
Right here. :headbang:
 
So, is this where all the single, lonely guys get to brag about how many cute 20-something year olds they are going to sleep with?You realize that most of you are single for a reason, right? :lmao:
:thumbup: Pretty sure most of us are single because we have failed relationships... don't think this is "strange." :shrug:
 
culdeus said:
Woz said:
May as well give an update:plentyoffish:1. The date I mentioned earlier has been moved to Friday night. Gonna go to a martini lounge after my ball game. I pushed to just meet her there, but she insisted I pick her up. Couple this with the fact she's e-mailed me randomly twice to moreso tell me how her days have went and texted me twice last night after I called her have me a bit worried. The content of what she's saying if fine, but I almost get the feeling that she thinks we're "dating" already. And yeah as I was typing the thread of this I got a text from her asking if I'm still at work.
This sounds like the one for you. GO FOR THE GOLD.
Update? Email/chat transcripts will help us help you seal the deal buddy. :confused:
 
Friday morning update:

It's going to be a slow weekend for the Banker. 2 of the top 3 current prospects are away for the weekend. Right now my top prospects are serious dating types. No "hooks up" pending for me from this group of 3. Now there are a couple of those in the "B" group, but they can stay on the bench for now.

Shy Tiny Blone-is in Florida, returning Monday. We will discuss a Tuesday meeting. She lives about an hour and a half away, this is the part that sucks.

Talked to "The Teacher" last night. A very nice girl and really seems to have her #### together. I really like the confident girls who are also low maintenance at the same time. The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever. We are looking at setting something up soon. For now it looks like the phone until her work schedule clears (Works 2 jobs-Sub. Teaching and Bartending).

The new one to enter the top 3 is someone who I was talking with before 38D's and before taking my profile down. We had chatted a few times and I don't remember her being anything special at that time. Maybe I was just gaga over the rack of 38D's.....lol. Anyway she sent me a note welcoming me back to the i.dating scene. She also included a new pic, and while not a "hottie" and decent looking gal and again has her #### together. It is her Birthday this weekend so I got shut down on the invite for drinks. She suggested during the coming week. Updates to follow. Pic to follow tonight to the underground.

I guess I need to name her. I shall call her......"GolfGal".

OH....great stuff guys on the pics coming into the Underground. It looks like we are all doing quite well so far in at least attracting some cuties. Some of the young ones being posted are hot. Wish I was just a couple of years younger. I just can't seriously date 24/25 years olds. I'll have to live vicarously through Woz and Ditka. I'll keep working the 27-35 group.

Otis?..... Come on man what gives....No updates?

 
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Woz said:
the moops said:
So, is this where all the single, lonely guys get to brag about how many cute 20-something year olds they are going to sleep with?

You realize that most of you are single for a reason, right? :goodposting:
:goodposting: Pretty sure most of us are single because we have failed relationships... don't think this is "strange." :no:
wow. that's a negative attitude.
 
Some of the young ones being posted are hot. Wish I was just a couple of years younger. I just can't seriously date 24/25 years olds. I'll have to live vicarously through Woz and Ditka.
C'mon man... you're 33, not 43. :lmao: (I reserve the right to change my opinion after spending more time with these young'uns.)

 
She lives about an hour and a half away, this is the part that sucks.
The Future Mrs. Pip lives an hour and a half away from me, and we met on eharmony. So it's not an obstacle to a relationship. A no-strings-attached secks thing is a different story, of course.
Not really looking for the no strings thing. If I happen to find it.....well, I deal with it.Really looking for something a little more serious.
 
She lives about an hour and a half away, this is the part that sucks.
The Future Mrs. Pip lives an hour and a half away from me, and we met on eharmony. So it's not an obstacle to a relationship. A no-strings-attached secks thing is a different story, of course.
Not really looking for the no strings thing. If I happen to find it.....well, I deal with it.Really looking for something a little more serious.
Then distance under two hours shouldn't be an issue. IMO.
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :confused:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :hifive:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :thumbup:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :shrug:
:lol: Yeah, it sounds like she thinks you just graduated. Does her "well congratulations" sounds like she is sending you on your way?
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :thumbup:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... ;)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :lol: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :shrug:
She's either dumb or not paying attention. Bad sign either way.
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :thumbup:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... ;)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :lol: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :shrug:
She's either dumb or not paying attention. Bad sign either way.
Is she young? If so, her mind must automatically assume you just graduated since many of her friends have probably graduated recently. Doesn't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :thumbup:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lol:
;) Yeah, it sounds like she thinks you just graduated. Does her "well congratulations" sounds like she is sending you on your way?
:shrug:Probably. "Congratulations and may you have the best times of your life. llo"
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :shrug:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lol:
:thumbup:reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :unsure:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lol:
She's either dumb or not paying attention. Bad sign either way.
Is she young? If so, her mind must automatically assume you just graduated since many of her friends have probably graduated recently. Doesn't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Yep. 23 year old student. :bag:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :lol:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :bag:
:unsure:reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
Admittedly I didn't word that well, but I think you're giving her too much credit here GB.
 
krista4 said:
Otis said:
Disco Stu said:
OK, based on advice from krista and others I've started being upfront about the separated thing with anyone who shows interest. So I'm 32, have a kid, and legally I'm married... let's see how fast these 23-25 year olds run away. :pickle:
Way to take absolutely horrible advice, guy :popcorn:
Says the guy who tonight is taking the girl out who has apparently chopped off his #### and is keeping it in her refrigerator. :pickle:
:pickle:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :pickle:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :pickle: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :pickle:
:popcorn:reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
Admittedly I didn't word that well, but I think you're giving her too much credit here GB.
I agree with Furley. The :pickle: was her letting you know she's being a smartass. Sorry you didn't get it. :pickle:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :pickle:

Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.

Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :pickle: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :pickle:
:popcorn: reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
Admittedly I didn't word that well, but I think you're giving her too much credit here GB.
I agree with Furley. The :pickle: was her letting you know she's being a smartass. Sorry you didn't get it. :)
I'm pretty sure the ;) was to indicate that the situation wasn't that scary. :pickle:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :pickle:

Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.

Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :pickle: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :pickle:
:popcorn: reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
Admittedly I didn't word that well, but I think you're giving her too much credit here GB.
I agree with Furley. The :) was her letting you know she's being a smartass. Sorry you didn't get it. ;)
I'm pretty sure the :) was to indicate that the situation wasn't that scary. :pickle:
That's how I took it as well. :pickle:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :mellow:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :lmao: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lmao:
:thumbdown:reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
Admittedly I didn't word that well, but I think you're giving her too much credit here GB.
I agree with Furley. The :lmao: was her letting you know she's being a smartass. Sorry you didn't get it. ;)
What are you trying to say? ;)
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :thumbdown:Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :lmao:
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! :lmao: well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :mellow:
You need some serious spin control. And some punctuation help.
 
Friday morning update:It's going to be a slow weekend for the Banker. 2 of the top 3 current prospects are away for the weekend. Right now my top prospects are serious dating types. No "hooks up" pending for me from this group of 3. Now there are a couple of those in the "B" group, but they can stay on the bench for now. Shy Tiny Blone-is in Florida, returning Monday. We will discuss a Tuesday meeting. She lives about an hour and a half away, this is the part that sucks.Talked to "The Teacher" last night. A very nice girl and really seems to have her #### together. I really like the confident girls who are also low maintenance at the same time. The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever. We are looking at setting something up soon. For now it looks like the phone until her work schedule clears (Works 2 jobs-Sub. Teaching and Bartending).The new one to enter the top 3 is someone who I was talking with before 38D's and before taking my profile down. We had chatted a few times and I don't remember her being anything special at that time. Maybe I was just gaga over the rack of 38D's.....lol. Anyway she sent me a note welcoming me back to the i.dating scene. She also included a new pic, and while not a "hottie" and decent looking gal and again has her #### together. It is her Birthday this weekend so I got shut down on the invite for drinks. She suggested during the coming week. Updates to follow. Pic to follow tonight to the underground.I guess I need to name her. I shall call her......"GolfGal".OH....great stuff guys on the pics coming into the Underground. It looks like we are all doing quite well so far in at least attracting some cuties. Some of the young ones being posted are hot. Wish I was just a couple of years younger. I just can't seriously date 24/25 years olds. I'll have to live vicarously through Woz and Ditka. I'll keep working the 27-35 group.Otis?..... Come on man what gives....No updates?
The stuff with The Teacher sounds strange to me. If she's looking to be "just friends", why the hell is she on a dating site? It's not any "woman speak" I've ever heard. Very odd, IMO. :thumbdown:
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :mellow:

Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.

Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lmao:
:thumbdown: reads like she's cracking wise on your sentence structure there.
Admittedly I didn't word that well, but I think you're giving her too much credit here GB.
I agree with Furley. The ;) was her letting you know she's being a smartass. Sorry you didn't get it. :)
I'm pretty sure the ;) was to indicate that the situation wasn't that scary. :lmao:
:lmao: just trying to help
 
Friday morning update:It's going to be a slow weekend for the Banker. 2 of the top 3 current prospects are away for the weekend. Right now my top prospects are serious dating types. No "hooks up" pending for me from this group of 3. Now there are a couple of those in the "B" group, but they can stay on the bench for now. Shy Tiny Blone-is in Florida, returning Monday. We will discuss a Tuesday meeting. She lives about an hour and a half away, this is the part that sucks.Talked to "The Teacher" last night. A very nice girl and really seems to have her #### together. I really like the confident girls who are also low maintenance at the same time. The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever. We are looking at setting something up soon. For now it looks like the phone until her work schedule clears (Works 2 jobs-Sub. Teaching and Bartending).The new one to enter the top 3 is someone who I was talking with before 38D's and before taking my profile down. We had chatted a few times and I don't remember her being anything special at that time. Maybe I was just gaga over the rack of 38D's.....lol. Anyway she sent me a note welcoming me back to the i.dating scene. She also included a new pic, and while not a "hottie" and decent looking gal and again has her #### together. It is her Birthday this weekend so I got shut down on the invite for drinks. She suggested during the coming week. Updates to follow. Pic to follow tonight to the underground.I guess I need to name her. I shall call her......"GolfGal".OH....great stuff guys on the pics coming into the Underground. It looks like we are all doing quite well so far in at least attracting some cuties. Some of the young ones being posted are hot. Wish I was just a couple of years younger. I just can't seriously date 24/25 years olds. I'll have to live vicarously through Woz and Ditka. I'll keep working the 27-35 group.Otis?..... Come on man what gives....No updates?
The stuff with The Teacher sounds strange to me. If she's looking to be "just friends", why the hell is she on a dating site? It's not any "woman speak" I've ever heard. Very odd, IMO. :shrug:
I think it's just her approach to dating. Become friends first....to me it's still kind of like dating. Maybe to her it is less pressure and expectations, not sure? Just my hunch. I am going to pursue....who knows it may make for some funny updates.
 
Talked to "The Teacher" last night. A very nice girl and really seems to have her #### together. I really like the confident girls who are also low maintenance at the same time. The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever. We are looking at setting something up soon. For now it looks like the phone until her work schedule clears (Works 2 jobs-Sub. Teaching and Bartending).
The stuff with The Teacher sounds strange to me. If she's looking to be "just friends", why the hell is she on a dating site? It's not any "woman speak" I've ever heard. Very odd, IMO. :shrug:
I've seen many profiles that mention "friends first". I assumed they were just trying to weed out guys looking for a random hookup.If she actually said this in discussion though, I'd be concerned.
 
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Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :shrug:

Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.

Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lol:
You need some serious spin control. And some punctuation help.
I don't worry much about punctuation and grammar when chatting with these girls. It's more of a casual, almost Studs n Duds-ish, environment that they're used to.My reply...

Wait, I think my wording may have been confusing... :) The wedding was a few months after graduation, which was about 9 years ago. So I was married slightly longer than a few months.

If you hadn't noticed, I'm quite a bit older than you...

Dang, this approach seems doomed... "Let me tell you all these negatives and see how you react." :lol: Obviously I'm new at this...
I backed myself into an uncomfortable spot with the whole "upfront honesty" shtick, so I'm just rolling with it. I didn't expect a reply the first time, and really don't expect one now. No worries...
 
Is it my fault, or is reading comprehension down for this chick? :unsure:

Me:

I married a few months after college graduation and have one kid (4 year old boy). Divorce is actually three weeks from being legal. They make you wait in dreaded "separated land" for 3 months after filing.

Might as well dump all that on you at once and see if I can scare you off... :)
Her reply:
wow...so married a few months and a kid...that is scary ! ;) well congratulations?!
Does she think I just recently graduated? And if so doesn't that mean I must be about 24? :lol:
You need some serious spin control. And some punctuation help.
I don't worry much about punctuation and grammar when chatting with these girls. It's more of a casual, almost Studs n Duds-ish, environment that they're used to.My reply...

Wait, I think my wording may have been confusing... :) The wedding was a few months after graduation, which was about 9 years ago. So I was married slightly longer than a few months.

If you hadn't noticed, I'm quite a bit older than you...

Dang, this approach seems doomed... "Let me tell you all these negatives and see how you react." :lol: Obviously I'm new at this...
I backed myself into an uncomfortable spot with the whole "upfront honesty" shtick, so I'm just rolling with it. I didn't expect a reply the first time, and really don't expect one now. No worries...
I'd get one of the republican spinmeisters (bueno perhaps ;-) as they seem to be good at polishing turds (not that your situation is a turd btw)) to draft you something for your profile to avoid having to communicate this later.
 
Friday morning update:It's going to be a slow weekend for the Banker. 2 of the top 3 current prospects are away for the weekend. Right now my top prospects are serious dating types. No "hooks up" pending for me from this group of 3. Now there are a couple of those in the "B" group, but they can stay on the bench for now. Shy Tiny Blone-is in Florida, returning Monday. We will discuss a Tuesday meeting. She lives about an hour and a half away, this is the part that sucks.Talked to "The Teacher" last night. A very nice girl and really seems to have her #### together. I really like the confident girls who are also low maintenance at the same time. The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever. We are looking at setting something up soon. For now it looks like the phone until her work schedule clears (Works 2 jobs-Sub. Teaching and Bartending).The new one to enter the top 3 is someone who I was talking with before 38D's and before taking my profile down. We had chatted a few times and I don't remember her being anything special at that time. Maybe I was just gaga over the rack of 38D's.....lol. Anyway she sent me a note welcoming me back to the i.dating scene. She also included a new pic, and while not a "hottie" and decent looking gal and again has her #### together. It is her Birthday this weekend so I got shut down on the invite for drinks. She suggested during the coming week. Updates to follow. Pic to follow tonight to the underground.I guess I need to name her. I shall call her......"GolfGal".OH....great stuff guys on the pics coming into the Underground. It looks like we are all doing quite well so far in at least attracting some cuties. Some of the young ones being posted are hot. Wish I was just a couple of years younger. I just can't seriously date 24/25 years olds. I'll have to live vicarously through Woz and Ditka. I'll keep working the 27-35 group.Otis?..... Come on man what gives....No updates?
The stuff with The Teacher sounds strange to me. If she's looking to be "just friends", why the hell is she on a dating site? It's not any "woman speak" I've ever heard. Very odd, IMO. :lol:
I think it's just her approach to dating. Become friends first....to me it's still kind of like dating. Maybe to her it is less pressure and expectations, not sure? Just my hunch. I am going to pursue....who knows it may make for some funny updates.
I would go on dates with her and hit on other chicks, hey you're out with a "friend" :lol: Might lose her as a result but think of the entertainment value the stories could provide :unsure:
 
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The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever.
I think this is bad news...either means (a) she's not that into you or (b) she's already got something better going on and is hooking you as a backup...neither is good for you...I'd take one date and if the story doesn't change quickly I'd bail...
 
The only thing with this one.....she wants to only be "friends" to start. Is this just woman schtick for I won't sleep with you right away? Don't get me wrong, I am willing to wait a bit, just not forever.
I think this is bad news...either means (a) she's not that into you or (b) she's already got something better going on and is hooking you as a backup...neither is good for you...I'd take one date and if the story doesn't change quickly I'd bail...
This was my impression as well...my first thought was that she's not into you and keeping you as a backup. We'll see, but you have plenty of other options anyway! :bag:
 

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