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***Official*** FFA iDating Thread (5 Viewers)

New update on the underground about crazy chick. Not crazy at all. Very reserved. Was a little bit of a tough night, she's coming from an abusive relationship............had a hard time letting go. She's cute as a bug though, nice little body, blond, spend the entire 3 1/2 hours at the CWS championship with me tonight. I'll try to see her again, but I'm afraid the effort to get her to open up will wear me down in short order. After last night's go-round with blind date girl, probably better this girl was reserved. I needed a break. Endurance obviously not up to Otis levels yet. Maybe it was because I finished?
:rolleyes: Abusive relationship? Told you about it when you first met her? Three kids?Run.
 
Met my friends idate today. She looks a hell of a lot better in real life than her picture. Still not hot, but not completely scary either. They met for lunch Friday and had a great meet and greet apparently. He went to her church to hear her sing Sunday morning etc etc blah blah blah. Nothing exciting to report. All in all she seems like a nice enough girl looking to build toward a relationship but SLOWLY. No imminent signs of some good old fashion train wreck yet. I really got the feel that she is a girl looking for a friend who may become a boyfriend. My boy also seems to have turned a corner and quelled his expectations somewhat.TirnanIf he keeps up I may have to share some of my old between marriages personal dating disasters.... just so I feel like I'm contributing or something.
Is this the one you said lost 40 lbs, but I didn't think she looked fat to begin with?You should feel free to contribute your own dating stories or your buddy's...it's all entertaining!BTW, I'm putting anyone for whom I reviewed a profile on my friends list. :rolleyes:
 
Well, that was the worst date i've been on in a while. Details tomorrow.
:confused:
Alright, kids.Well, to start out, this girl had the face of Lindsay Lohan (I'm serious...there were points last night that I couldn't tell the difference), and a nice, tiny, but tight little body. That was a nice surprise.So, I'm thinking...hey, this isn't going to be so bad!And then, she opened her mouth. This was the kind of girl that wasn't going to let you get a word in at ALL. Okay, so I've been on dates with these kinds of girls before. I position myself so I can look at her and listen to Sportscenter at the same time, and all was good.But, it wasn't.You see, every story this girl (who was 4'11", 89 pounds) told started out with, "Oh, I was so trashed..." and ended up with "Yeah, and then I threw up in..."So after about two drinks, I'm just staying for story value (to give you guys something to read). She lives in a smallish town, so there's only three bars open on Sunday night, and there's nobody in them. In every bar we went to, the bartenders looked at me with a certain degree of pity...because as small as this girl is, she's not quiet. Her stories are booming throughout every bar we were in, which is why I was particularly glad the town was pretty dead last night.Then, we figure out that we have the same birthday, and she goes off on that for about 30 minutes. After that, and the fact that she's now visibly drunk, I'm thinking it's time to leave, because I just can't take it anymore.I take her home, she gives me the whole "are you okay to drive? You can just stay here thing...", but I take the opening and tell her I'm just fine, and it won't be a big deal to drive the 20 minutes home. I was tempted to go up, but I don't even think sex was worth listening to this girl for what could've been hours on end afterward.It's too bad, too. She was really cute.
 
She looks pretty cute, blonde, and 32 years old -- here is a pic.
this one has the crazy. BAD
This turns out to be about accurate I think.I ended up taking the girl home who I met earlier, so I never met up with this chick. We exchanged texts for a while and then I was hammered and just ended up not responding anymore. She proceeded to text me a few times, call me three times, and leave me two voicemails. :thumbup:

Her pic looks good so I'm still tempted to give her a go sometime this week but, man, why is someone not teaching these women to play hard to get?
Wait... wasn't this the crazy clap girl you were meeting first? You took her home?? :lmao:
:thumbup:
 
She looks pretty cute, blonde, and 32 years old -- here is a pic.
this one has the crazy. BAD
This turns out to be about accurate I think.I ended up taking the girl home who I met earlier, so I never met up with this chick. We exchanged texts for a while and then I was hammered and just ended up not responding anymore. She proceeded to text me a few times, call me three times, and leave me two voicemails. :thumbup:

Her pic looks good so I'm still tempted to give her a go sometime this week but, man, why is someone not teaching these women to play hard to get?
Wait... wasn't this the crazy clap girl you were meeting first? You took her home?? :lmao:
:thumbup:
:lmao:
 
That's too bad Keys, if she was somewhat tolerable I bet she'd be worth exploring at least for a little while.

As for me, still no real updates past the confirmed dates - which is now up to 3 after I forgot I mentioned something to another girl a little bit ago and she just got back to me and is more than up for it. Going to call the girl my mom set me up with tonight, just so my mom doesn't look bad. Will update with pics as soon as I can access internet outside of work.

Also looks like Keys is heading up for a visit this weekend, so might need to find two or play a little wingman. :)

 
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Went on my first idate...she was really cool so I accurately broke down her profile which is good, but her pictures made her look about 1 point hotter than she really was. She was probably an 8.5 in her pictures on the FBG scale and only about a 7.5 in person.

It probably wont go anywhere but should be fun in the short term.(and a headache later on)

 
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krista4 said:
New update on the underground about crazy chick. Not crazy at all. Very reserved. Was a little bit of a tough night, she's coming from an abusive relationship............had a hard time letting go. She's cute as a bug though, nice little body, blond, spend the entire 3 1/2 hours at the CWS championship with me tonight. I'll try to see her again, but I'm afraid the effort to get her to open up will wear me down in short order. After last night's go-round with blind date girl, probably better this girl was reserved. I needed a break. Endurance obviously not up to Otis levels yet. Maybe it was because I finished?
:hifive: Abusive relationship? Told you about it when you first met her? Three kids?Run.
she didn't really come out and volunteer the information......when I was driving her home I just basically said, "I like you, you're really cute, I had a good time...........but I feel like I have to work SOOOOOOOO much harder with you than normal to get anything out of you" meaning in a conversation/laughing/good time sense. We got to talking about our ex's.........and I just kind of asked what happened........and she said "he just wasn't a very good guy, kind of abusive, etc."........that was it. Later I asked her if she thought that might be why she has a hard time loosening up and she said yes. She had told me she had been in one serious relationship since the divorce and that eventually she opened up with him. I just couldn't tell if this girl liked me or not and I was trying to find out why she was the way she was. Still may be train wreck'ish..........not sure. Slow and steady though. No hand holding, no kissing, no nothing. We'll see where it goes. She has some catching up to do with the girl from the night before! :goodposting:
 
Went on my first idate...she was really cool, but her pictures made her look about 1 point hotter than she really was. She was probably an 8.5 on the FBG scale and only about a 7.5.It probably wont go anywhere but should be fun in the short term.(and a headache later on)
JB? Is that you? I thought you were married....................
 
I've got drinks lined up with this one, as early as tonight. Thoughts?

Also, now that I put up a main pic and fixed my profile, I'm starting to get lots of hits. I could probably line up a date with someone new every night for the next two weeks. This match thing is still pretty awesome.

I just don't know that I have the energy for it. :pics:

 
I've got drinks lined up with this one, as early as tonight. Thoughts?

Also, now that I put up a main pic and fixed my profile, I'm starting to get lots of hits. I could probably line up a date with someone new every night for the next two weeks. This match thing is still pretty awesome.

I just don't know that I have the energy for it. :pics:
Works for me!!!
 
I've got drinks lined up with this one, as early as tonight. Thoughts?

Also, now that I put up a main pic and fixed my profile, I'm starting to get lots of hits. I could probably line up a date with someone new every night for the next two weeks. This match thing is still pretty awesome.

I just don't know that I have the energy for it. :pics:
she looks like a pain in the ###...I could be wrong but my radar is pretty accurate on these things.
 
Keys Myaths said:
Well, to start out, this girl had the face of Lindsay Lohan (I'm serious...there were points last night that I couldn't tell the difference), and a nice, tiny, but tight little body.

I was tempted to go up, but I don't even think sex was worth listening to this girl for what could've been hours on end afterward.
XWTH man?!? You put up with hours of talking and don't reward yourself with the sex that she was basically offering?!?

I'm so pissed off right now...what's her myspace page?

 
I've got drinks lined up with this one, as early as tonight. Thoughts?

Also, now that I put up a main pic and fixed my profile, I'm starting to get lots of hits. I could probably line up a date with someone new every night for the next two weeks. This match thing is still pretty awesome.

I just don't know that I have the energy for it. :goodposting:
link to this profile? would like to see how it is "properly" done.
 
All right. I've been slacking horrendously in this thread and with the iDating thing in general. But I knew that I was going to be out of town the last two weekends and had stuff lined up to do during the week as well. So I was planning on getting after it this week and actually paying for the Match subscription and throwing out some vibe (lol) on hotornot but I met someone over the weekend that I'm really interested in.

I went back home to Youngstown for a golf outing and met this girl on Friday night...pretty spectacular chick and we ended up hanging out after-hours Friday and again on Saturday night. Not really my type physically since I generally go for the spinners and she's a six-footer...but wow, I really am digging this girl. We could start popping out NFL tight ends tomorrow. :mellow:

So now I'm thinking about heading home again this weekend and hopefully taking things to the next level. Part of the reason I'm so intrigued is that she resisted my spectacular ability to take a simple make-out session and turn it into a porn shoot...but she somehow managed to keep it at the make-out/touching-and-rubbing level for hours on end. And I was surprisingly okay with it. I know, kids...I'm scared too. :blackdot:

Anyway, I'm thinking of holding off for another week on the iDating thing.

Also, here's a strange little something...I was on the phone with her yesterday and she was talking about how much she loves her dog and throws out something along the lines of "If there was a stranger drowning and my dog was drowning next to him, I hope the guy has a friend somewhere nearby". I didn't say anything, but internally I was laughing my ### off at the possibility that she somehow read that thread.

Wait a minute...I hope we don't have a potential OtisSpy in Homer's future. :hifive:

 
All right. I've been slacking horrendously in this thread and with the iDating thing in general. But I knew that I was going to be out of town the last two weekends and had stuff lined up to do during the week as well. So I was planning on getting after it this week and actually paying for the Match subscription and throwing out some vibe (lol) on hotornot but I met someone over the weekend that I'm really interested in. I went back home to Youngstown for a golf outing and met this girl on Friday night...pretty spectacular chick and we ended up hanging out after-hours Friday and again on Saturday night. Not really my type physically since I generally go for the spinners and she's a six-footer...but wow, I really am digging this girl. We could start popping out NFL tight ends tomorrow. :lmao:So now I'm thinking about heading home again this weekend and hopefully taking things to the next level. Part of the reason I'm so intrigued is that she resisted my spectacular ability to take a simple make-out session and turn it into a porn shoot...but she somehow managed to keep it at the make-out/touching-and-rubbing level for hours on end. And I was surprisingly okay with it. I know, kids...I'm scared too. :lmao:Anyway, I'm thinking of holding off for another week on the iDating thing.Also, here's a strange little something...I was on the phone with her yesterday and she was talking about how much she loves her dog and throws out something along the lines of "If there was a stranger drowning and my dog was drowning next to him, I hope the guy has a friend somewhere nearby". I didn't say anything, but internally I was laughing my ### off at the possibility that she somehow read that thread.Wait a minute...I hope we don't have a potential OtisSpy in Homer's future. :lmao:
Great story, complete with the "I'd save my dog" line... She sounds fantastic - happy to see a story like this! :thumbup:
 
Ok. That was ten times worse than last night.I literally snuck out. Never done that before. I really don't even feel ad.
This is the Lohan drunk chick? Why'd you go out with her again?I assume you at least took her up on her offer of lovin'?
Nah, this was a different one. He had a posting above of his Sunday-Wednesday dates, or maybe it was through Thursday...anyway, not the same chick. Hoping we'll get the full story, though...
 
Ok. That was ten times worse than last night.I literally snuck out. Never done that before. I really don't even feel ad.
This is the Lohan drunk chick? Why'd you go out with her again?I assume you at least took her up on her offer of lovin'?
Nah, this was a different one. He had a posting above of his Sunday-Wednesday dates, or maybe it was through Thursday...anyway, not the same chick. Hoping we'll get the full story, though...
Gotcha. Thanks.I still think he should have done bad things to the other one. :goodposting:
 
Ok. That was ten times worse than last night.I literally snuck out. Never done that before. I really don't even feel ad.
This is the Lohan drunk chick? Why'd you go out with her again?I assume you at least took her up on her offer of lovin'?
Nah, this was a different one. He had a posting above of his Sunday-Wednesday dates, or maybe it was through Thursday...anyway, not the same chick. Hoping we'll get the full story, though...
Gotcha. Thanks.I still think he should have done bad things to the other one. :clap:
I did bad things to this one tonight, but I just couldn't stay there overnight. Call me an #######, but the whole night, that's what it seemed like she wanted. So, whatever.And the Lohan chick...I was with her for about 2 hours, and it was torture. I just had to end it, and I was being too nice of a guy just standing it for that long. I don't think I could've snuck out on this one, either.Woz--set us up the double date for this weekend. :clap: :clap:Just kidding, GB.
 
So now I'm thinking about heading home again this weekend and hopefully taking things to the next level. Part of the reason I'm so intrigued is that she resisted my spectacular ability to take a simple make-out session and turn it into a porn shoot...but she somehow managed to keep it at the make-out/touching-and-rubbing level for hours on end. And I was surprisingly okay with it. I know, kids...I'm scared too. :unsure:
I actually think this is something to watch closely...if it was just "it's too soon, but when I'm ready it's on" that's one thing...but it could also be a sign of "I decide when and I'll use it as a weapon if I have to to get what I want"...don't want to rain on your parade, sounds like an exciting prospect, but keep a close eye on this one...
 
Keys Myaths said:
Homer J Simpson said:
krista4 said:
Homer J Simpson said:
Keys Myaths said:
Ok. That was ten times worse than last night.I literally snuck out. Never done that before. I really don't even feel ad.
This is the Lohan drunk chick? Why'd you go out with her again?I assume you at least took her up on her offer of lovin'?
Nah, this was a different one. He had a posting above of his Sunday-Wednesday dates, or maybe it was through Thursday...anyway, not the same chick. Hoping we'll get the full story, though...
Gotcha. Thanks.I still think he should have done bad things to the other one. :thumbup:
I did bad things to this one tonight, but I just couldn't stay there overnight. Call me an #######, but the whole night, that's what it seemed like she wanted. So, whatever.And the Lohan chick...I was with her for about 2 hours, and it was torture. I just had to end it, and I was being too nice of a guy just standing it for that long. I don't think I could've snuck out on this one, either.Woz--set us up the double date for this weekend. :thumbup: :hifive:Just kidding, GB.
Was this the girl who initially offered for you to stay over? Pretty obvious what she wanted. Sounds like it was at least interesting. And I'm getting some stuff lined up for this weekend. You gotta let me know if you'd prefer girls and boozing or gambling or site-seeing or working out or whatever.
 
Update:

Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.

 
Update: Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.GL
 
Keys Myaths said:
Homer J Simpson said:
krista4 said:
Homer J Simpson said:
Keys Myaths said:
Ok. That was ten times worse than last night.I literally snuck out. Never done that before. I really don't even feel ad.
This is the Lohan drunk chick? Why'd you go out with her again?I assume you at least took her up on her offer of lovin'?
Nah, this was a different one. He had a posting above of his Sunday-Wednesday dates, or maybe it was through Thursday...anyway, not the same chick. Hoping we'll get the full story, though...
Gotcha. Thanks.I still think he should have done bad things to the other one. :thumbdown:
I did bad things to this one tonight, but I just couldn't stay there overnight. Call me an #######, but the whole night, that's what it seemed like she wanted. So, whatever.And the Lohan chick...I was with her for about 2 hours, and it was torture. I just had to end it, and I was being too nice of a guy just standing it for that long. I don't think I could've snuck out on this one, either.Woz--set us up the double date for this weekend. :mellow: :mellow:Just kidding, GB.
:goodposting:Maybe I'm misreading this, but if you got laid how bad of a date could it possibly have been?
 
My update...

Nothing interesting in Minnesota the past 5 days. Pretty sure some random chick at a neighborhood party wanted it, but her husband was right there. Crazy #####. :loco: I passed on the hottub to avoid being drawn into her little soap opera.

I was supposed to meet "myspace redhead" last night, but my flight was canceled. So we'll have to try again another time.

Date tonight with "school girl". Will report back.

 
Update: Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.GL
:shrug: That works. I got a nice tan going too so I don't want that hidden. Will update after probably from my office since it's right next door.
 
Update: Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.GL
Kinda struggling here... cuffs rolled back just once feels weird to me. Also not so sure how loose this tie is supposed to be. Oh well. If she's not into me I'm blaming Otis.
 
Update: Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.GL
Kinda struggling here... cuffs rolled back just once feels weird to me. Also not so sure how loose this tie is supposed to be. Oh well. If she's not into me I'm blaming Otis.
An inch and a quarter of looseness on each side. And if you can't handle cuffs rolled back once, go for twice so that you'll be more comfortable and won't break out in a sweat. :thumbup:
 
Update:

Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.

2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)

3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.

GL
Kinda struggling here... cuffs rolled back just once feels weird to me. Also not so sure how loose this tie is supposed to be. Oh well. If she's not into me I'm blaming Otis.
This is too loose. This is closer, but not loose enough.

:thumbup:

 
Update:

Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.

2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)

3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.

GL
Kinda struggling here... cuffs rolled back just once feels weird to me. Also not so sure how loose this tie is supposed to be. Oh well. If she's not into me I'm blaming Otis.
This is too loose. This is closer, but not loose enough.

:thumbup:
Stu, I love you for posting a pic of Clive Owen. :lol:
 
Stu, I love you
:goodposting:Tonight is going to be rough. I had to get up at 4:30 this morning to get to the airport. :hophead:Just brought in the red bull for assistance... just makes me wish I had some vodka or jager at my desk.
You're going out with tall redhead tonight? If so, have a great time! :goodposting:
"School girl" tonight. Redhead was supposed to be last night, but I got stuck in Minnesota. She's not tall though...EDIT: Now I know where the tall redhead thought came from. I decided I wasn't interested in that chick. I do like the cute redhead from myspace though. Just have to figure out a new plan to meet.
 
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Update: Not sure if this counts for this thread, but I'm meeting the girl my mom went and got me a date with after work today for drinks at happy hour. I have a question, especially for Otis, what's the play here for dress? I normally wear the full blown suit and stuff at work, but how do I alter that garb for after work drinks? For one, it's over 90 degrees out already so I'll probably just leave my suit jacket in the office. The suit pants, shirt, and tie I have are all designer so I'm not so much worried about that. Would rolling up the sleeves be too much? Do I take the tie off? Leave it on but loosened with top button unbuttoned or what? This girl just graduated from college so I doubt she's used to guys dressed nicely and I'm thinking if I pull this off right she'll think I'm more mature than the guys she dated in college but still "cool" and stuff.
This is a no-brainer:1. Leave the jacket at the office.2. Roll up the sleeves just once (i.e., fold back the cuffs)3. Unbutton top button, loosen tie a lot but not so much that it looks sloppy. You want that "I'm a cool guy kickin back after work" look. Chicks absolutely love it.GL
Kinda struggling here... cuffs rolled back just once feels weird to me. Also not so sure how loose this tie is supposed to be. Oh well. If she's not into me I'm blaming Otis.
My friend, if there is one look you need to master, it's this one. Just roll with it.As for how loose the tie should be -- visibly loose. You can comfortably put a few fingers between the tie and your neck, but not your whole hand.
 
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