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***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (2 Viewers)

Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
Frank Robinson 1B/3B/OFLou Gehrig 1B/SS/OF:own3d:
Yeah, but did any of them pitch a 20-win season like Babe Ruth did? :own3d:
Go ahead and start him in the sim. :own3d:
"Hey, lastresort and Nipsey are facing each other in the FFA MLB Draft""Who's LR got?""Babe Ruth""Not bad, how many Cy Youngs has he won?""None, but he has enough batting crowns to account for the entire British monarchy.""That's fine and dandy, but who does Nipsey have?""Cy Young""Ouch.""I know, Babe's gonna kill him on the mound and at the plate" :own3d: BTW, I doubt he meets the requirements for being a pitcher. Plus I'd be a ######## for starting him. After all, I gotta represent :e: here.
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
 
Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?
I think he's a sexy player, but for the sim, his salary numbers are putrid. Also, IMO Morgan was the best player on the Big Red Machine teams. I don't think Pete is a top-top positional guy, but he did play the longest, played the hardest and got the most hits. He's great, but for our purposes I don't think he's a second rounder....tough to pass on him as his name alone will get you votes.
I think you're making a mistake heading over there and staring at the salaries..there's a bit more to it than just that.
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
link? there's too many f'n threads..
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
link? there's too many f'n threads..
I dunno, just take my ####ing word for it.
 
Nolan Ryan

He had a lot of losses, which could be the only reason he fell this far. But when you play over two decades for the Mets, Angels, Astros, and Rangers you gotta expect a lot of losses. Heck in 1987 he pitched 211 innings striking out 270 with a 2.76 ERA, yet he went 8-16. Outside the win/loss column, the guy is a stud.
i agree. the guy gets way too much grief for his huge walk/loss totals. i mean, 7 no-hitters. end of story.
I was considering him at the turn...I was hoping he'd last 'til the 3/4 turn...

:hot: :rant: :boxing:

 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
Frank Robinson 1B/3B/OFLou Gehrig 1B/SS/OF:own3d:
Yeah, but did any of them pitch a 20-win season like Babe Ruth did? :own3d:
Go ahead and start him in the sim. :own3d:
"Hey, lastresort and Nipsey are facing each other in the FFA MLB Draft""Who's LR got?""Babe Ruth""Not bad, how many Cy Youngs has he won?""None, but he has enough batting crowns to account for the entire British monarchy.""That's fine and dandy, but who does Nipsey have?""Cy Young""Ouch.""I know, Babe's gonna kill him on the mound and at the plate" :own3d: BTW, I doubt he meets the requirements for being a pitcher. Plus I'd be a ######## for starting him. After all, I gotta represent :e: here.
Again you've blown the joke.Honestly though, any team that has Babe Ruth on it is going to be tough to beat in the voting. It's like the Wilt/Shaq factor in the NBA draft. Guys get hung up on that one name (rightfully so). Thankfully you blew your second pick and gave us all a chance.... ;) ( :own3d: )
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
link? there's too many f'n threads..
I dunno, just take my ####ing word for it.
Umm.. is it okay if I don't?
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
Frank Robinson 1B/3B/OFLou Gehrig 1B/SS/OF:own3d:
Yeah, but did any of them pitch a 20-win season like Babe Ruth did? :own3d:
Go ahead and start him in the sim. :own3d:
"Hey, lastresort and Nipsey are facing each other in the FFA MLB Draft""Who's LR got?""Babe Ruth""Not bad, how many Cy Youngs has he won?""None, but he has enough batting crowns to account for the entire British monarchy.""That's fine and dandy, but who does Nipsey have?""Cy Young""Ouch.""I know, Babe's gonna kill him on the mound and at the plate" :own3d: BTW, I doubt he meets the requirements for being a pitcher. Plus I'd be a ######## for starting him. After all, I gotta represent :e: here.
why? Pitchers hit in this...AND he can still be a pinch-hitter when he's not pitching...
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
yeah I know..I would've take Pete anyways, I just had an idea he and Collins were 1-2 on your list.
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
Frank Robinson 1B/3B/OFLou Gehrig 1B/SS/OF:own3d:
Yeah, but did any of them pitch a 20-win season like Babe Ruth did? :own3d:
Go ahead and start him in the sim. :own3d:
"Hey, lastresort and Nipsey are facing each other in the FFA MLB Draft""Who's LR got?""Babe Ruth""Not bad, how many Cy Youngs has he won?""None, but he has enough batting crowns to account for the entire British monarchy.""That's fine and dandy, but who does Nipsey have?""Cy Young""Ouch.""I know, Babe's gonna kill him on the mound and at the plate" :own3d: BTW, I doubt he meets the requirements for being a pitcher. Plus I'd be a ######## for starting him. After all, I gotta represent :e: here.
Again you've blown the joke.Honestly though, any team that has Babe Ruth on it is going to be tough to beat in the voting. It's like the Wilt/Shaq factor in the NBA draft. Guys get hung up on that one name (rightfully so). Thankfully you blew your second pick and gave us all a chance.... ;) ( :own3d: )
I didn't blow the joke, I just construed it to where it favors me. :D
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
link? there's too many f'n threads..
I dunno, just take my ####ing word for it.
Umm.. is it okay if I don't?
yeah that's fine..let me know when you find it in that thread. :own3d:
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
You picked Eddie Collins? Seriously? You know we're doing more than the sim, right?
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
link? there's too many f'n threads..
I dunno, just take my ####ing word for it.
Umm.. is it okay if I don't?
yeah that's fine..let me know when you find it in that thread. :own3d:
i don't like this revisionist history.. but it is you afterall..
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
Frank Robinson 1B/3B/OFLou Gehrig 1B/SS/OF:own3d:
Yeah, but did any of them pitch a 20-win season like Babe Ruth did? :own3d:
Go ahead and start him in the sim. :own3d:
"Hey, lastresort and Nipsey are facing each other in the FFA MLB Draft""Who's LR got?""Babe Ruth""Not bad, how many Cy Youngs has he won?""None, but he has enough batting crowns to account for the entire British monarchy.""That's fine and dandy, but who does Nipsey have?""Cy Young""Ouch.""I know, Babe's gonna kill him on the mound and at the plate" :own3d: BTW, I doubt he meets the requirements for being a pitcher. Plus I'd be a ######## for starting him. After all, I gotta represent :e: here.
Again you've blown the joke.Honestly though, any team that has Babe Ruth on it is going to be tough to beat in the voting. It's like the Wilt/Shaq factor in the NBA draft. Guys get hung up on that one name (rightfully so). Thankfully you blew your second pick and gave us all a chance.... ;) ( :own3d: )
I didn't blow the joke, I just construed it to where it favors me. :D
no, you blew it.
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after.  Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
yeah I know..I would've take Pete anyways, I just had an idea he and Collins were 1-2 on your list.
Ok, of all the people still available in the draft (trust me, there's a lot of them), you whittled down my choices to Rose and some guy who played in the early-1900's?Impressive, I must say. :sarcasm:
 
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Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
Frank Robinson 1B/3B/OFLou Gehrig 1B/SS/OF:own3d:
Yeah, but did any of them pitch a 20-win season like Babe Ruth did? :own3d:
Go ahead and start him in the sim. :own3d:
"Hey, lastresort and Nipsey are facing each other in the FFA MLB Draft""Who's LR got?""Babe Ruth""Not bad, how many Cy Youngs has he won?""None, but he has enough batting crowns to account for the entire British monarchy.""That's fine and dandy, but who does Nipsey have?""Cy Young""Ouch.""I know, Babe's gonna kill him on the mound and at the plate" :own3d: BTW, I doubt he meets the requirements for being a pitcher. Plus I'd be a ######## for starting him. After all, I gotta represent :e: here.
Again you've blown the joke.Honestly though, any team that has Babe Ruth on it is going to be tough to beat in the voting. It's like the Wilt/Shaq factor in the NBA draft. Guys get hung up on that one name (rightfully so). Thankfully you blew your second pick and gave us all a chance.... ;) ( :own3d: )
I didn't blow the joke, I just construed it to where it favors me. :D
no, you blew it.
Sue me. :hot:
 
Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?
I think he's a sexy player, but for the sim, his salary numbers are putrid. Also, IMO Morgan was the best player on the Big Red Machine teams. I don't think Pete is a top-top positional guy, but he did play the longest, played the hardest and got the most hits. He's great, but for our purposes I don't think he's a second rounder....tough to pass on him as his name alone will get you votes.
I think you're making a mistake heading over there and staring at the salaries..there's a bit more to it than just that.
Maybe I am, but if they do the sim and one guy has a salary of 5 million and one guy has 10 million, wouldn't you take the 10 million guy every time? (assuming he fits into your line-up and the 5 million player doesn't dominate his position) Isn't it safe to say the team who has the highest salary has to be considered at least a favorite to win the sim? (and isn't that more important (and more fun) than the lousy write up/vote part of it anyway?) I mean we're going to take month drafting here only to have our teams posted for 24 hours and voted on (basically a popularity contest mixed in with some baseball debate).

 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
[Nipsey]Why would you want guys who have to share wins when you could have a guy who has 511 wins all by himself?![/Nipsey]
 
2nd Round (32 overall)- Nap Lajoie His skill at bat was impressive for a second baseman: he had the highest Total Player Rating 9 times (only Ruth, with 13, and Willie Mays, also with 9, did as well in this category). Playing in the dead-ball era, he was not a home run hitter. He was, however, a powerful, right-handed pull hitter and his smashes down the left-field foul line were legendary. His 648 doubles rank tenth all-time and he hit ten or more triples in seven seasons. He finished his career with 3,251 hits. The three-time batting champ retired with a .338 lifetime batting average, 21st all-time, and his 380 stolen bases is proof of how dangerous he was on the basepaths. But it was his defense that set him apart - at 6'1" and 195 pounds, he was (like Honus Wagner) about 20 pounds heavier than the typical middle infielder of his day. Still, he was quick and graceful, and he led the AL in fielding average 5 times. He led the AL in range factor 4 times and in double plays 5 times; according to Total Baseball, he has more career Fielding Runs (runs saved above and beyond a league average fielder) than any other player in major league history - Bill Mazeroski and Ozzie Smith included. When he jumped from the National League Phillies to the cross-town Athletics of the American League, he gave the junior circuit instant credibility. Although the young AL was not yet on a par with the established NL, Lajoie's batting marks were nevertheless exceptional. He led in hits (229), doubles (48), home runs (14), runs scored (145), and RBI (125). His .422 batting average still stands as a league record. When the Phillies obtained an injunction forbidding Lajoie from playing in Pennsylvania, AL president Ban Johnson transferred his contract to the Cleveland Bronchos, which changed its name to the Cleveland Naps for their new captain. When he departed near the end of his career to go to the Athletics, the Naps changed their name to the Cleveland Indians. In 1937, he became the sixth player elected to the Hall of Fame, following Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson and Honus Wagner.

 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after.  Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
yeah I know..I would've take Pete anyways, I just had an idea he and Collins were 1-2 on your list.
Ok, of all the people still available in the draft (trust me, there's a lot of them), you whittled down my choices to Rose and some guy who played in the early-1900's?Impressive, I must say. :sarcasm:
well considering you said you were going to operate off the wins share system, and Pete and Collins were the top-2 left in Win Shares, and it took me about 3 seconds to look that up, it wasn't a stretch. :own3d:
 
Isn't it safe to say the team who has the highest salary has to be considered at least a favorite to win the sim?
No. Some pitchers who pitched 500 innings have huge salaries, but the rest of their stats are basically average.
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after.  Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
yeah I know..I would've take Pete anyways, I just had an idea he and Collins were 1-2 on your list.
Ok, of all the people still available in the draft (trust me, there's a lot of them), you whittled down my choices to Rose and some guy who played in the early-1900's?Impressive, I must say. :sarcasm:
well considering you said you were going to operate off the wins share system, and Pete and Collins were the top-2 left in Win Shares, and it took me about 3 seconds to look that up, it wasn't a stretch. :own3d:
So you go from:A. Completely knowing who I was gonna take toB. Having an idea, but was set on your own instincts toC. Back to completely knowing.You don't happen to play poker, do you? Your ability to bluff is astounding.
 
Can I officially kick Capella in the balls?
yes. go for two shots just to be safe.
I think I should have one for each position Pete Rose plays:1B2B3BLFCFRF
:yes: Pete = good. Flexibility to go with the baserunning and the offense.Nipsey, how'd you pass over this guy?Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Gehrig at SS. Count on it. :football: BTW, are there any "rules" on position eligibility or what? I was gonna ask earlier, but now I'm really gonna ask.
think we said 100 games.
link? there's too many f'n threads..
I dunno, just take my ####ing word for it.
I second that, 100 games
 
So you go from:A. Completely knowing who I was gonna take toB. Having an idea, but was set on your own instincts toC. Back to completely knowing.You don't happen to play poker, do you? Your ability to bluff is astounding.
Again, what exactly does this :e: thing have to do with arses?
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after.  Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
yeah I know..I would've take Pete anyways, I just had an idea he and Collins were 1-2 on your list.
Ok, of all the people still available in the draft (trust me, there's a lot of them), you whittled down my choices to Rose and some guy who played in the early-1900's?Impressive, I must say. :sarcasm:
well considering you said you were going to operate off the wins share system, and Pete and Collins were the top-2 left in Win Shares, and it took me about 3 seconds to look that up, it wasn't a stretch. :own3d:
So you go from:A. Completely knowing who I was gonna take toB. Having an idea, but was set on your own instincts toC. Back to completely knowing.You don't happen to play poker, do you? Your ability to bluff is astounding.
I don't really care if you believe me or not..look when I said I made the pick..I specifically said I know Pete won't get past LastResort..was that just a dumb guess?
 
F'n Bill James nerds..
like you aren't..
Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.
 
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Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after.  Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
[Nipsey]Why would you want guys who have to share wins when you could have a guy who has 511 wins all by himself?![/Nipsey]
[spock]Hey guys, I took the 35th best player with the second overall pick![spock/] :own3d:
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after.  Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
[Nipsey]Why would you want guys who have to share wins when you could have a guy who has 511 wins all by himself?![/Nipsey]
[spock]Hey guys, I took the 35th best player with the second overall pick![spock/] :own3d:
:rotflmao:
 
So you go from:A. Completely knowing who I was gonna take toB. Having an idea, but was set on your own instincts toC. Back to completely knowing.You don't happen to play poker, do you? Your ability to bluff is astounding.
Again, what exactly does this :e: thing have to do with arses?
No, you quoted me as saying: "I'd be a ########. After all, I have to represent :e: here."You interpret it as "To join :e:, you have to be a ########" when it really means "I would be a ########, but because I'm representing :e: here, I'm obviously not."*sigh* With some people, you just have to spell it out. :rant:
 
F'n Bill James nerds..
like you aren't..
Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.
I must say I'm a bit surprised by that.I don't live and die by his theory, but I think a lot of his views make sense. Just another way to bounce numbers.
 
Oh, lastresort..shouldn't have filled me in on your strategy..I knew you were going Rose if I didn't, and I knew you were taking Collins after. Want me to predict your next pick? ;)
Lemme guess, you also are an owner of a Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, too.Funny you should use the "Take this guy before the other guy takes him" strategy. I'm about to win a fantasy football league title because the other guy used this tactic. We redrafted for the playoffs and were allowed to keep 3 guys. He already kept Culpepper and decided to draft Manning with the 1st pick overall. I happily took Bulger and Brady (in addition to keeping McNabb) and even though a week has already gone in the playoffs, I'm so far ahead of the guy and he's lost so many players after the wild card round that he's unofficially conceded already.Now granted, Rose is a great player regardless of Win Shares or whatnot. But I wouldn't be using the tactic your using now. Guess who I'm getting all you want next round. But I assure you this: it won't be based entirely on Win Shares. Collins just so happened to be far and away the biggest owner of Win Shares available.
[Nipsey]Why would you want guys who have to share wins when you could have a guy who has 511 wins all by himself?![/Nipsey]
[spock]Hey guys, I took the 35th best player with the second overall pick![spock/] :own3d:
"Ouch."
 
Will do write-up later, but I knew he wouldn't get past LastResort on the turn.
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FYI, that was point A on the 3 point analysis I have.So I guess by using your assumptions, I'm up to take George Brett next, huh?:that'sformetoknowandyoutofindout:
I guess we'll have to wait and see..but I think I'll have a good idea who I better take before you snipe them (if I want them).
 
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So you go from:A. Completely knowing who I was gonna take toB. Having an idea, but was set on your own instincts toC. Back to completely knowing.You don't happen to play poker, do you? Your ability to bluff is astounding.
Again, what exactly does this :e: thing have to do with arses?
No, you quoted me as saying: "I'd be a ########. After all, I have to represent :e: here."You interpret it as "To join :e:, you have to be a ########" when it really means "I would be a ########, but because I'm representing :e: here, I'm obviously not."*sigh* With some people, you just have to spell it out. :rant:
I don't really understand. What exactly does :e: have to do with the ####? Is it like the visual thing, the e in the middle of the colons? Or the use of two colons, or what? Like the e is inside the colon?And how exactly do you join :e:? What is an :e: anyway? Is it like the fishing thing?
 
F'n Bill James nerds..
like you aren't..
Never read a sentence the man has written. Not one.Personally, I think his metrics are a tad arbitary and overreliant on statistical analysis. He's clearly not familiar with the notion of garbage in/garbage out. I mean, no amount of number crunching will reveal what he intends to find, but that's just my take on it. And I'm a numbers guy.
I must say I'm a bit surprised by that.I don't live and die by his theory, but I think a lot of his views make sense. Just another way to bounce numbers.
Well, let me put it this way: certain numbers make a lot of sense.. like OPS, for example. As I see it, there's a distinct problem when you start building complex formulas to account for everything like changes in era, ballpark, etc. As the formula grows in complexity, you start to lose touch with what the original numbers actually represent. In my opinion, no amount of data massaging will allow you to compare players' stats on a level field. James sort of takes the fun out of it by trying to crunch raw numbers and give some kind of "objective" or "quantitative" measure. IMO, this is fruitless and most likely impossible. I don't dispute everything he does, but at some point the arbitrariness and complexity of his analysis will only generate fluff that has little actual meaning. Baseball requires a certain level of subjectiveness that transcend the numbers, and James seems to have forgotten that to a certain degree.
 
So you go from:A. Completely knowing who I was gonna take toB. Having an idea, but was set on your own instincts toC. Back to completely knowing.You don't happen to play poker, do you?  Your ability to bluff is astounding.
Again, what exactly does this :e: thing have to do with arses?
No, you quoted me as saying: "I'd be a ########. After all, I have to represent :e: here."You interpret it as "To join :e:, you have to be a ########" when it really means "I would be a ########, but because I'm representing :e: here, I'm obviously not."*sigh* With some people, you just have to spell it out. :rant:
I don't really understand. What exactly does :e: have to do with the ####? Is it like the visual thing, the e in the middle of the colons? Or the use of two colons, or what? Like the e is inside the colon?And how exactly do you join :e:? What is an :e: anyway? Is it like the fishing thing?
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH :E:!!!:E: is not just a clique, it's a state of mind.And yes, you can participate in your own little special way. Just PM Zartan for details.
 
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3rd Round (33 overall) - Greg Maddux When you cast your eye over this list, firebreathing fastballers like Johnson, Grove and Clemens are the norm. But Maddux - one of the best control pitchers in history - is an anachronism, with a fastball that won't hit 90 on a good day. The four-time Cy Young Award winner (a feat matched only by Roger Clemens and Steve Carlton) might be the most dominant pitcher of the 1990s, and has achieved success without one defining or unhittable pitch. Instead, he thrives on discipline, outstanding pitch selection, complete command and pinpoint accuracy. A terrific fielder, he has also won 8 Gold Gloves. Beginning in 1993, he began a string of 4 seasons that were reminiscent of Koufax a generation ago - he won the Cy Young Award each year, took 3 ERA titles and led the league in innings pitched each time. Three times he led in complete games, and twice he led in shutouts. He had an off-year of sorts in 1996, going just 15-11 with a 2.72 ERA, and lost the ERA title to Kevin Brown and the Cy Young to teammate John Smoltz (24-7, 2.94 ERA). In 1997, he rebounded and posted outstanding numbers once again (19-4, 2.20 ERA), although an even better year by Pedro Martinez (17-8, 1.90 ERA) won the Cy Young. In 1998, Maddux the Magnificent was back, with another epic performance - a 2.22 ERA, and a 18-9 record. (Teammate Tom Glavine, who was 20-6 with a 2.47 ERA, won the Cy Young, making Maddux the bridesmaid for the second straight season.) A strong case could be made that Maddux's performance in 1995 was the single best in major league history - it's certainly up there with Lefty Grove's 1931, Bob Gibson's 1968, Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown's 1906, Ron Guidry's 1978, Steve Carlton's 1972, Dwight Gooden's 1985 and Pedro Martinez's 1999 and 2000. Maddux was 19-2, and his ERA that year of 1.63, in a year of ridiculously inflated offensive numbers, was 62% lower than the league average. Another strong case can be made that Maddux in 1994 posted the single greatest season in major league history - a 16-6 record in the strike-shortened year, and his 1.56 ERA (even lower relative to the league average than his previous year's number) was the third best in baseball since 1919. Certainly, Maddux in 1994-1995 has to be considered in the pantheon of great two-season performances

 
Koufax 27-9, 1.73 ERA, 323 IP, 241 Hits, 317 K'sYoung 28-9 2.08 ERA, 341 IP, 294 Hits, 176 K'sI'll take Koufax.
That's just one year. Why arbitrarily choose one year? Because you are totally disregarding the point of the draft and playing just for the sim? Oh, good reason. Thanks for joining, acknowledging the rules created to make this have some meaning, and ignoring them.I'll take Brady Anderson with my next pick, and I'm using 1996 no matter what you ####s think.
 

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