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***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (1 Viewer)

He's the guy that won't sack up and actually participate in one of these drafts because he's afraid of being judged. He'll sit back and take pot shots from a safe distance at your team though. What a joy..... :thumbup:
i'll take your spot, despite the sub-optimal 1st round pick.
 
He's the guy that won't sack up and actually participate in one of these drafts because he's afraid of being judged. He'll sit back and take pot shots from a safe distance at your team though. What a joy..... :thumbup:
i'll take your spot, despite the sub-optimal 1st round pick.
Nice try. Wait until the guy you want gets picked, then try and take that particular team. That won't fly here....
 
Two pages ago you we're talking about three years. Bottom line is this, you'll argue a time frame that suits the best year(s) of your players, then give us the old "my guy wins this one game" argument. You never seem to want to look at the entire career.You sunk Capella and I in the NBA draft (even though I never really "officially" lost) because of that LeBron pick. I WILL NOT let you do it again.
this is really still an issue? if I buried anyone, it was my team during voting. everyone else could and did stand on their own.Im on the permanant Nipsey drafting #### list... I could have picked Ruth 1.7 and you would have found fault. :P PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3. It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
 
I think you need a Cray to calculate win shares.. or at least a fat wallet. F'n Bill James and his magical formulas that he pulls out of his ###.

 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3. It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3. It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
 
THAT SAID, players are to be drafted based on their complete careers, not on just one good season.
OK Koya?
when did I ever mention on here anything about one year. please point it out. Im not going to let you just straw man, AGAIN. Basing on a CAREER I will let others assertain who was the "better pitcher"
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3. It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
Guys..We now have a thread for this slap fest. Please go there. TIA.
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3.  It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
Guys..We now have a thread for this slap fest. Please go there. TIA.
Been there.....
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3.  It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
Guys..We now have a thread for this slap fest. Please go there. TIA.
yia
 
Just to add a little fuel to the fire. I think we can all agree that the Yankees during Lefty's career would be the closest to some of the all-time lineups these pitchers will be facing. Against the Yankees Grove averaged

According to Don Malcolm of the Big Bad Baseball fame in a post on Baseball Primer, Grove was 30-25 with an ERA of 3.82 as a starting pitcher vs. the Yankees, including 18-16, 4.34 with the A’s and 12-9, 3.11 with the Red Sox. Those numbers are well below Grove’s record vs. the rest of the league but that is not surprising given the fact that the Yankees were the best team in baseball for much of his career.
. This is from this site.I personally don't think any of these pitchers would fare that well against any of these line-ups, but it will be interesting to see in the sim.
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3.  It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
Guys..We now have a thread for this slap fest. Please go there. TIA.
:goodposting: Note: I tried creating a poll on it, but because I'm an insignificant puke compared to Pickles, it obviously didn't work.
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3. It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
Guys..We now have a thread for this slap fest. Please go there. TIA.
:goodposting: Note: I tried creating a poll on it, but because I'm an insignificant puke compared to Pickles, it obviously didn't work.
:rotflmao: You're gaining momentum..
 
PS... you talk about selective, I said pick a 3, 5, 7, 9 year period - so dont selectively change that to only 3.  It is not fair and you are basing your conclusions on false "facts"
Why can't we just judge a guy on his entire career? Why do we always have to break it down?
I am basing it on a guys entire career. Cy Young had a much longer career. Grove had a shorter MLB career - although he used his dominance to school other higher paying leagues at the time.Do you not think 7 consecutive years doing something, or doing something 7 of 9 years in a row is not worthy of mention? It shows great consistency over a long period.And yes, there is something to be said for doing something for a very very long period of time... and being very good for most/all of that time, too.But yeesh, 7 or 9 years is talking about a guys prime career... if people think that is taking "liberties" let me know... and if you want career, I gave you career stats too. ERA, Winning %.... along with wins and others. Not sure why you have to hone in on this.
Guys..We now have a thread for this slap fest. Please go there. TIA.
:goodposting: Note: I tried creating a poll on it, but because I'm an insignificant puke compared to Pickles, it obviously didn't work.
:rotflmao: You're gaining momentum..
In my world, what I'm doing would be called "Hulking up"."WHATCHA GONNA DO, BROTHER, WHEN LASTRESORTMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOOOOOOU!!!???"(I live in a f'ed up world. It's called Missouri.)
 
Basing on a CAREER I will let others assertain who was the "better pitcher"
Then what the hell are you #####ing about? :confused:
If you really want to know they are right, we should talk about this in another thread.. namely the rules thread.you know there will be players that had GREAT 8, 10, 12 year periods, but had a poor end to a career or something. how will people judge those players? I contest that 7+ straight years is a good barameter for any player, although 10+ from position players. that's just me. Eitherway, a player needs a decade of work, but if they stick around too long and lose 25 pts on their batting average, Im not going to hold that against that player. What represents who a player is, in my opinion, is to look at their whole career, but within context (ie a Koufax. only a 5 year peak. but what a peak! or any number of position players not yet drafted.. and pitchers alike... that had periods of unbelievable play but may have dropped off, or retired - gone to war. )
 
Basing on a CAREER I will let others assertain who was the "better pitcher"
Then what the hell are you #####ing about? :confused:
If you really want to know they are right, we should talk about this in another thread.. namely the rules thread.you know there will be players that had GREAT 8, 10, 12 year periods, but had a poor end to a career or something. how will people judge those players? I contest that 7+ straight years is a good barameter for any player, although 10+ from position players. that's just me. Eitherway, a player needs a decade of work, but if they stick around too long and lose 25 pts on their batting average, Im not going to hold that against that player. What represents who a player is, in my opinion, is to look at their whole career, but within context (ie a Koufax. only a 5 year peak. but what a peak! or any number of position players not yet drafted.. and pitchers alike... that had periods of unbelievable play but may have dropped off, or retired - gone to war. )
What's so hard about the word "career"?
 
(I live in a f'ed up world.  It's called Missouri.)
Now it all makes sense.
I figued it would, once all the chowder escaped from your brain cavity so you can make an intellegent thought for the first time tonight. :D
1) It's bisque.2) If we're doing this to win a VOTE (made by a football board), Cy Young isn't the better pick there?
 
What's so hard about the word "career"?
suit yourself nips. some people are going to credit a guy that hits 300 for a decade plus, but then drops to 220 and it hurts overall numbers. thats all.see it however you like.
 
dang... ya'll went on and on and on and on... lolbut I was :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: the whole time I was reading that... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

 
What's so hard about the word "career"?
suit yourself nips. some people are going to credit a guy that hits 300 for a decade plus, but then drops to 220 and it hurts overall numbers. thats all.see it however you like.
Koya, CLEARLY guys have ups and downs in a career. Most guys' numbers go way down at the end. You just seem to want to focus on the "ups". Why not go game by game and just throw out the loses?
 
13 pages and we're not even done with the first round.Just wait till round 22 people! :stillers:
I'm going to go out a limb right now: Opening day in MLB happens before this draft is complete. Seriously.
 
Seriously.. there's a separate thread.
Like there's anything going on here we're taking away from? SACK UP, MAN!
I don't want this to be 110 pages of bickering about a couple of dead guys..IN ROUND 1
THEN SOMEBODY PICK SO WE CAN MOVE THIS THING ALONG, OTHERWISE KOYA NEEDS TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON ON FFA VOTING PROBABILITY.I feel better.

 
ahhhh ####, I just realized I had Funkley's pick. :blush:He takes Ty Cobb. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: sorry
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: great job you did there our great, and powerful fearless leader... GREAT JOB!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
 

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