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The problem is Bonds is not THAT much better a power hitter than the rest. If is one of the best? Yes. On par with Ruth and the big boys? Maybe, maybe not - he is in a HUGE offensive era with awful pitching and tiny ballparks - not to get into "help" through chemistry. Bonds 73 are no more impressive than George Fosters 50 in the 1970's - and if there is a real and fair equalization, this would be taken into account.
yes, as harrier says
Bonds was just a bigger power hitter than them already
:crazy:
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.

 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.
good way to come out and admit it. :thumbup:
 
btw winner = harrierconfirmed :yes:
:yawn: Sorry Cappy, close but no cigar on this one.
no, there really is.who do you think you're dealing with here?
Put me on the Harrier posing as Winner team as well.
it's been confirmed. he can deny it until the sun goes down and then comes back up tomorrow. but that won't change the facts.
Next he's gonna show up as Sam with saxophone pics. :yes: :pics:
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
 
And opinion is all I am talking about. Not everyone is going to agree that Crawford should hit that many homeruns if in fact he does. I would agree that the WIS algorithm did in fact do what it was designed to do.
Spock - how many homeruns do you think Crawford would hit if he played in this ERA? What is your opinion?
Is his home ballpark Coors Field?Also, if he starts swinging for the fences, does his batting average drop and his strikeouts increase as well?
I think for this sim his home park is Ebbets field.Do you think he wasn't swinging for homeruns in his era? By the stats, it looks like he's one of the few guys who did.

OK - say his AVG decreases and his Ks increase, what' the number of homeruns?
15. My answer is subjective. As well as the opinion of anyone who agrees with me, as well as anyone who disagrees with me.
So it doesn't change? Do you believe just his homeruns wouldn't change or all of his stats?Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree with you here.

I'm interested if you just think its that era.

For example, what do you think Eddie Murray's 32 homeruns in '82 would equate to today?

 
I said it before, but any sim that limits the number of homeruns of the entire league is flawed.

More importantly, the greatest % of home runs for an entire league Bonds has ever hit was 2.47% when he hit 73. This stupid sim has him hitting 3.17% of the total home runs.

That's 25% more than he's ever done

Conclusion: FLAWED SIM

 
I don't understand how Ty Cobb keeps finishing outside the league leaders in hits?!?!?! I realize that not every great hitter will be on the leader board but I didn't see his name in there once and he isn't currently on the WIS leader board either. :shrug:
Hank Aaron 2HR's 6 RBI's :angry:
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.
good way to come out and admit it. :thumbup:
I think it's been made clear from the beginning that Winner and I are buddies--how is it then surprising that he can get a hold of me when you guys are being a pain in the ### to him, too?
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods.  Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out.  If no one else, I appreciate it.
good way to come out and admit it. :thumbup:
I think it's been made clear from the beginning that Winner and I are buddies--how is it then surprising that he can get a hold of me when you guys are being a pain in the ### to him, too?
Nipsey shtick taken, please apply again.
 
btw winner = harrierconfirmed :yes:
:yawn: Sorry Cappy, close but no cigar on this one.
no, there really is.who do you think you're dealing with here?
Put me on the Harrier posing as Winner team as well.
it's been confirmed. he can deny it until the sun goes down and then comes back up tomorrow. but that won't change the facts.
Next he's gonna show up as Sam with saxophone pics. :yes: :pics:
You mean these?
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
 
btw winner = harrierconfirmed :yes:
:yawn: Sorry Cappy, close but no cigar on this one.
no, there really is.who do you think you're dealing with here?
Put me on the Harrier posing as Winner team as well.
it's been confirmed. he can deny it until the sun goes down and then comes back up tomorrow. but that won't change the facts.
Next he's gonna show up as Sam with saxophone pics. :yes: :pics:
You mean these?
:goodposting:
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods.  Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out.  If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
There's no question about this.
 
Quite a party in here:15 Members: Capella, mrharrier, Mr. Pickles, Funkley, larry_boy_44, trefor3, Koya, NOC, IndividuallyWrapedKraftSingles, Politician Spock, Sammy3469, Winner, Bogart, Doug B, Giant Wooden BadgerYou boys don't ever work?

 
I said it before, but any sim that limits the number of homeruns of the entire league is flawed.

More importantly, the greatest % of home runs for an entire league Bonds has ever hit was 2.47% when he hit 73. This stupid sim has him hitting 3.17% of the total home runs.

That's 25% more than he's ever done

Conclusion: FLAWED SIM
Not to mention he is going against the likes of Ruth, Cravath, Mays here. The top 5 players of each year, as opposed to only 4 other top 5 players from today, and the rest = schlep.If someone hits 2.5% of the leagues HRs in one year, I would expect that to be a FAR less percentage if the "league" consists of every top 30 HR hitters with the exception of a couple Jose Consteroids and Dave "Would hit 850 HRs with a .217 average" Kingman.

 
btw winner = harrierconfirmed :yes:
:yawn: Sorry Cappy, close but no cigar on this one.
no, there really is.who do you think you're dealing with here?
Put me on the Harrier posing as Winner team as well.
it's been confirmed. he can deny it until the sun goes down and then comes back up tomorrow. but that won't change the facts.
Next he's gonna show up as Sam with saxophone pics. :yes: :pics:
You mean these?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Why why why would someone do that to themselves.
 
Quite a party in here:15 Members: Capella, mrharrier, Mr. Pickles, Funkley, larry_boy_44, trefor3, Koya, NOC, IndividuallyWrapedKraftSingles, Politician Spock, Sammy3469, Winner, Bogart, Doug B, Giant Wooden BadgerYou boys don't ever work?
I have a bit meeting at 3:30 and then an event tonight at 7:30. So I am playing now.
 
btw winner = harrierconfirmed :yes:
:yawn: Sorry Cappy, close but no cigar on this one.
no, there really is.who do you think you're dealing with here?
Put me on the Harrier posing as Winner team as well.
it's been confirmed. he can deny it until the sun goes down and then comes back up tomorrow. but that won't change the facts.
Next he's gonna show up as Sam with saxophone pics. :yes: :pics:
You mean these?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Why why why would someone do that to themselves.
I dunno, but I'll be damned if I'm ever getting rid of them.
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods.  Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out.  If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
There's no question about this.
I dont see why this would matter. Unless someone would stoop to the level of simfishing in an all time baseball draft that was not intended to have a sim as the driving force behind it.:shurg:
 
And opinion is all I am talking about. Not everyone is going to agree that Crawford should hit that many homeruns if in fact he does. I would agree that the WIS algorithm did in fact do what it was designed to do.
Spock - how many homeruns do you think Crawford would hit if he played in this ERA? What is your opinion?
Is his home ballpark Coors Field?Also, if he starts swinging for the fences, does his batting average drop and his strikeouts increase as well?
I think for this sim his home park is Ebbets field.Do you think he wasn't swinging for homeruns in his era? By the stats, it looks like he's one of the few guys who did.

OK - say his AVG decreases and his Ks increase, what' the number of homeruns?
15. My answer is subjective. As well as the opinion of anyone who agrees with me, as well as anyone who disagrees with me.
So it doesn't change? Do you believe just his homeruns wouldn't change or all of his stats?Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree with you here.

I'm interested if you just think its that era.

For example, what do you think Eddie Murray's 32 homeruns in '82 would equate to today?
How it would change depends greatly on what he decides to do as a hitter. Just because the fences are closer doesn't mean that he is going to start putting air under the ball. Clemente could have hit a lot more home runs in his career if he changed his hitting style, but he chose to hit line drives. I don't understand why people think they KNOW how a player would play in a different era. Many people just KNOW Sean Casey could hit more home runs as well if he chose to swing for the fences, but he as well choses to hit line drives. Some of them clear the fence. Most others go for singles and doubles.
 
I thought GWB said that OOTP was kind of useless because it does not equalize stats era to era?

You can set the sim on different eras, but it will not equate Sam Crawfords 16 HR season (which was like 73 back in the day) to Bond's efforts. I recall something about having to load in "equalized" stats which were found on some webpage, but would take years to enter manually.

not sure at all about this but that is what I heard.

Either way, any more than 20 HRs in the deadball era is silly. Any more than 30 is stupid.
Any algorithm used to equalize players from era to era would be highly subjective. There would be much disagreement as to what players would do better and what players would do worse if they played in a different era. WIS is just as useless as OOTP, unless you think WIS has found a great way of equalizing the players. If you do, why?
I am just passing on what someone else mentioned about OOTP - something about them not having an algorithm for equalization. That you can take a players stats (take Eddie Murray in a 30 HR year) and run that in a deadball era (so maybe Eddie would have less HRs, theoretically) or in todays era (theoretically he should have more than 30, maybe 45) - however, Eddie Murray will always have more home runs than say Sam Crawford (one of the top HR hitters of the deadball era but never had more than 16 in a season) and always have less than todays modern players.Basically, there is no algorithm to equalize between different players from different eras.

That was my understanding of what GWB asked. Because I asked him when we were doing the OOTP and he said it was useless because of this fact.

Obviously a sim is only as good as its algorith. I dont think WIS is necessarily the greatest but it seems to have something behind the scenes working. I also believe WIS uses algorithms based on each individual season, for equalizations sake. So, if 1982 was an average year but 1983 had a bunch more HRs, those HR's in '83 would be weighted less than in '82.

(again, just going off what I heard. I find it interesting to check out any sim)
I believe this is more or less correct. Whatif bases stats on only one season and how that player did within that season. It also tries to project that players stats across the whole year. So if Ruth was facing 1921 pitching he would put up his 1921 stats over the course of the year.

So he should slow down at some point. Whatif is trying to simulate the hot and cold streaks players go on over the course of the year.

BTW any stat program that sets a standard amount of HR for a league and then prorates that based on a 30 team league is FLAWED.
Perhaps. However I still like OOTP a lot. WIS charged over $300 for the one simulation we are running, and we are running into issue after issue. To do it again without all the issues we've run into it'll cost us another $300. For $19.95 I can run simulations, and tweak and run it again ad infinitum.
you just wanna be able to tweak it 'til you win...:rotflmao:
:yes:
For all we know, you are harrier, and you ran this thing a 100 times before harrier's team won.
Interestingly, he has won 3 times I've run it, and pumpnick has won once. Bogart, funkley, and Larry are almost always at the top, and Nipsey and Cappy at the bottom.
Good posting. :thumbup:
:betterposting:
 
I said it before, but any sim that limits the number of homeruns of the entire league is flawed.

More importantly, the greatest % of home runs for an entire league Bonds has ever hit was 2.47% when he hit 73. This stupid sim has him hitting 3.17% of the total home runs.

That's 25% more than he's ever done

Conclusion: FLAWED SIM
Not to mention he is going against the likes of Ruth, Cravath, Mays here. The top 5 players of each year, as opposed to only 4 other top 5 players from today, and the rest = schlep.If someone hits 2.5% of the leagues HRs in one year, I would expect that to be a FAR less percentage if the "league" consists of every top 30 HR hitters with the exception of a couple Jose Consteroids and Dave "Would hit 850 HRs with a .217 average" Kingman.
Most of the batters in this draft are non-HR hitters--a far larger percentage than in the modern majors that Bonds competes in, where power is king.
 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
Depending on how you define extensive, I can confirm this as true.
 
The miracle run for Kerry Wood is over as the Maranville Rabbits shell him. The Rabbits have now taken 2 of 3 from Newmies Rheumies and manager TRE for 3 is considering shaking up the lineup as they've been quite stagnant the last few games.Line:PITCHER IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA Kerry Wood (L, 3-1) 6.67 9 6 6 4 0 1 111 3.21

 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods.  Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out.  If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
Depending on how you define extensive, I can confirm this as true.
It's not a rip but it has to be a huge advantage compared to the many of us who have never done this before.....besides Stratomatic. We'll be smarter the next time around. And no, I'm not saying that it's the only reason you have a good team. Just an advantage.
 
And opinion is all I am talking about. Not everyone is going to agree that Crawford should hit that many homeruns if in fact he does. I would agree that the WIS algorithm did in fact do what it was designed to do.
Spock - how many homeruns do you think Crawford would hit if he played in this ERA? What is your opinion?
Is his home ballpark Coors Field?Also, if he starts swinging for the fences, does his batting average drop and his strikeouts increase as well?
I think for this sim his home park is Ebbets field.Do you think he wasn't swinging for homeruns in his era? By the stats, it looks like he's one of the few guys who did.

OK - say his AVG decreases and his Ks increase, what' the number of homeruns?
15. My answer is subjective. As well as the opinion of anyone who agrees with me, as well as anyone who disagrees with me.
So it doesn't change? Do you believe just his homeruns wouldn't change or all of his stats?Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree with you here.

I'm interested if you just think its that era.

For example, what do you think Eddie Murray's 32 homeruns in '82 would equate to today?
How it would change depends greatly on what he decides to do as a hitter. Just because the fences are closer doesn't mean that he is going to start putting air under the ball. Clemente could have hit a lot more home runs in his career if he changed his hitting style, but he chose to hit line drives. I don't understand why people think they KNOW how a player would play in a different era. Many people just KNOW Sean Casey could hit more home runs as well if he chose to swing for the fences, but he as well choses to hit line drives. Some of them clear the fence. Most others go for singles and doubles.
But my point is Crawford was trying to hit home runs even in his era. That's how he got 16! If you start equating Crawford to Sean Casey I'm going to have to go check myself into the hospital... :shock:

 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods. Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out. If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
Depending on how you define extensive, I can confirm this as true.
It's not a rip but it has to be a huge advantage compared to the many of us who have never done this before.....besides Stratomatic. We'll be smarter the next time around. And no, I'm not saying that it's the only reason you have a good team. Just an advantage.
Like I said, depends how you define extensive. I was in a couple WIS leagues a few years back, and I've been running sims like crazy since this draft started. Winner sims all the time.
 
I said it before, but any sim that limits the number of homeruns of the entire league is flawed. 

More importantly, the greatest % of home runs for an entire league Bonds has ever hit was 2.47% when he hit 73.  This stupid sim has him hitting 3.17% of the total home runs.

That's 25% more than he's ever done

Conclusion:  FLAWED SIM
Not to mention he is going against the likes of Ruth, Cravath, Mays here. The top 5 players of each year, as opposed to only 4 other top 5 players from today, and the rest = schlep.If someone hits 2.5% of the leagues HRs in one year, I would expect that to be a FAR less percentage if the "league" consists of every top 30 HR hitters with the exception of a couple Jose Consteroids and Dave "Would hit 850 HRs with a .217 average" Kingman.
Most of the batters in this draft are non-HR hitters--a far larger percentage than in the modern majors that Bonds competes in, where power is king.
Do you mean todays current players that hit a lot of HRs in a totally HR inflated era?Because I bet we have, outside of the couple exceptions I listed and maybe a couple more, FAR more HR's in the lineups we have, than on the average baseball team - especially adjusted for era.

My team, which is not even a power team but a power core has a lineup with almost 250 HRs - and that is not adjusted (would adjust down for Arod and a some for Griff, up for Schmidt and Mize would probably stay around the same). Are you telling me most teams in todays games have this power?

Again, I dont think my team is even close to the biggest power hitting team, either.

 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods.  Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out.  If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
Depending on how you define extensive, I can confirm this as true.
It's not a rip but it has to be a huge advantage compared to the many of us who have never done this before.....besides Stratomatic. We'll be smarter the next time around. And no, I'm not saying that it's the only reason you have a good team. Just an advantage.
Like I said, depends how you define extensive. I was in a couple WIS leagues a few years back, and I've been running sims like crazy since this draft started. Winner sims all the time.
I keep having to tell myself it's early but I've been surprised so far by the players off to rough starts vs. those doing well. Not just on my team either. There are some teams that should be worried at how far 'above' expectations some of their players are performing.
 
Back to the deadballers - Crawford, like most great power hitters, doesnt necessarily swing "for the fences" everytime. You go up there and you swing hard. You make good contact, at the right angle, and you get an extra base hit.Back in the day, extra base hit meant he was going for doubles and triples since there were rarely fences within the same county. If you assume he changes his swing a little, I dont think you would see a big difference in Ks... but I lot of those long line drives that became triples would be home runs - especially in todays park.I can only assume outfielders played RIDICULOUSLY deep back in the day also, because if the ball went over their head you would have issues. So how would this affect things as well.In the end, great hitters are great hitters. Great power hitters are great power hitters. The top 2-3 power hitters of any era would be one of the better if not best of another era. Not sure why this is so difficult to come to a consensus upon.

 
Hey guys, Winner told me that Cappy was going off on his Winner=Harrier shtick again, and pretending to know mods.  Sorry you have to deal with that crap, Winner, and thanks for putting in the time to run those OOTP sims and copy all of the results out.  If no one else, I appreciate it.
No problem, Harrier. I wouldn't worry about it--your team looks great in the OOTP, just like WIS. Best of luck.
Winner and Harrier both seem to have extensive simulation baseball experience. :fishing:
Depending on how you define extensive, I can confirm this as true.
It's not a rip but it has to be a huge advantage compared to the many of us who have never done this before.....besides Stratomatic. We'll be smarter the next time around. And no, I'm not saying that it's the only reason you have a good team. Just an advantage.
Like I said, depends how you define extensive. I was in a couple WIS leagues a few years back, and I've been running sims like crazy since this draft started. Winner sims all the time.
I keep having to tell myself it's early but I've been surprised so far by the players off to rough starts vs. those doing well. Not just on my team either. There are some teams that should be worried at how far 'above' expectations some of their players are performing.
I am more concerned about my players continuing to play UNDER expectations. (Paging Mr. Mize. Paging Mr. Mize. Mr. Grove please pick up a white courtesy phone)
 
The miracle run for Kerry Wood is over as the Maranville Rabbits shell him. The Rabbits have now taken 2 of 3 from Newmies Rheumies and manager TRE for 3 is considering shaking up the lineup as they've been quite stagnant the last few games.Line:PITCHER IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA Kerry Wood (L, 3-1) 6.67 9 6 6 4 0 1 111 3.21
A few tweaks here and there and I think my offense is finally giving some support to my defense. I have sent a letter to Johnny M. to see if I can get Hornsby and Hamilton to bat everytime they are not currently on another base.
 
DOUG - If you want to get a sim started with our current teams on that new league, let me know. If we can only use 12 teams, maybe only 12 want to pony up, or we will have to draw straws.

 
I've been tweaking my lineup to death the last couple days. I haven't scored double digits in a league game yet but when I sim them myself it happens all the time. I don't get that.

 
I've been tweaking my lineup to death the last couple days. I haven't scored double digits in a league game yet but when I sim them myself it happens all the time. I don't get that.
I gave up on the trial simming. I can find lineups that kick ### even agains tthe pitcher I am about to face, and then reality comes and nothing is the same.
 
I've been tweaking my lineup to death the last couple days. I haven't scored double digits in a league game yet but when I sim them myself it happens all the time. I don't get that.
I gave up on the trial simming. I can find lineups that kick ### even agains tthe pitcher I am about to face, and then reality comes and nothing is the same.
Exactly.
 
I still have not totally figured out my pitching rotation, nor how to actually set it!I wanted to give my four man rotation a break and was going to give Cuellar a start. But it would not let me, as it had Seaver locked in. Now suddenly Cuellar is all lined up and ready to go. Odd.

 
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Quick burger. You two share?

 
DOUG - If you want to get a sim started with our current teams on that new league, let me know. If we can only use 12 teams, maybe only 12 want to pony up, or we will have to draw straws.
Honestly, I don't have time to mess with it. I was thinking of Diamond Legends as a sim site to use for some future MLB draft.
 
DOUG - If you want to get a sim started with our current teams on that new league, let me know. If we can only use 12 teams, maybe only 12 want to pony up, or we will have to draw straws.
Honestly, I don't have time to mess with it. I was thinking of Diamond Legends as a sim site to use for some future MLB draft.
NP. If there is enough interest I wold look into setting it up, if the sim seems to be another good alternative for this. Otherwise we can use in the future.
 
If there is enough interest I wold look into setting it up, if the sim seems to be another good alternative for this. Otherwise we can use in the future.
It might be a great alternative.The tough part of this draft is that it was originally meant to be, as far as I can tell, a draft of all-time greats based on career accomplishments. So far, so good.

But when the WIS sim -- which essentially lops off nearly all of any players career accomplishments with their single-season format -- got mentioned, people suggested different restrictions to put on it. "Avoid Brady Andersons -- no best years". "Use third year -- all the best players were great over long periods of time". Et cetera.

With all the jockeying to make the WIS sim "right", the original intention of the draft just disappeared -- the quality of a player's third-highest salary season became more important than the overall quality of a player's career. With Diamond Legends, it looks like players are weighted based on their overall careers. That would put the DL sim closer to what was originally the point of this draft.

 

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