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Molly's Game

Just watched this last night, highly recommend. Really good watch into underground poker, based on a true story. 
Read the book and didnt dig it. I admire ol girl's hustle, but not a lot of deep poker insight, she just kind of relays that there were a lot of famous people, and whether they won or lost. 

Not as good as The Banker, The Professor, and the Suicide King imo.

 
Another pitching rematch from last week. Straily did this last month - faced the Braves in two consecutive starts and went 7 innings with 0 runs allowed in the subsequent start. This is only Dereck Rodriguez's fourth career start - going to roll the dice and see how he does facing the same team back to back.

Straily 143

 
Tomorrow I'm going back to what I do best. No more nonsense parlays.

Been a little distracted at my new job but look forward to making a little magic. There's nothing I love more than winning 5+ plays in a row and hitting that cashout button.

:banned:

 
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Also, I've done some thinking on sides vs proposition bets. Proposition bets have to be purely for recreation.

The art of sportsbetting to me isn't chasing outs to hammer whatever hokey bet you can get action on. I get that you can bounce around from book to book and steal the free cheese on RB rushing totals or pitcher K totals.

But I just don't view that as an enjoyable part of the chase. I feel like winning in that manner is purely technicality. The books are only going to let you win a few thousand and then your cut. Why? Because prop bets are beatable and they know they're beatable. They're recreational bets because the books design them to be that way. They don't take those bets seriously. That's why you don't see them offered in Vegas.

It's spreads and totals that have all the potential. You will never have trouble getting tens of thousands of dollars on spreads and totals if that's what your heart desires. They're harder to win, but that's the point.

Spreads and totals are where the books will look you square in the eye and say, "beat me". They are your only chance to win big and win longterm.

With that said, a balance of both is truly the path to enlightenment. Proposition bets are the bets you use to cure your itch. You can bet them daily, not bust, and get that dopamine rush your degenerate brain craves. Sides are where you pick your hill to die on and swing for the fences. Why? Because the books are daring you to beat them. They're throwing you a fastball down the middle.

Pick your spot and go yard.

 
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With that being said, I finally understand why everyone in this thread gets so excited for Super Bowl props.

It's the one time of year where you can get tens of thousands of dollars on proposition bets. Proposition bets which we have established earlier are designed to be beatable.

It's almost a gift or at least, the job of beating the books becomes much easier for one night.

 
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Also, I've done some thinking on sides vs proposition bets. Proposition bets have to be purely for recreation.

The art of sportsbetting to me isn't chasing outs to hammer whatever hokey bet you can get action on. I get that you can bounce around from book to book and steal the free cheese on RB rushing totals or pitcher K totals.

But I just don't view that as an enjoyable part of the chase. I feel like winning in that manner is purely technicality. The books are only going to let you win a few thousand and then your cut. Why? Because prop bets are beatable and they know they're beatable. They're recreational bets because the books design them to be that way. They don't take those bets seriously. That's why you don't see them offered in Vegas.

It's spreads and totals that have all the potential. You will never have trouble getting tens of thousands of dollars on spreads and totals if that's what your heart desires. They're harder to win, but that's the point.

Spreads and totals are where the books will look you square in the eye and say, "beat me". They are your only chance to win big and win longterm.

With that said, a balance of both is truly the path to enlightenment. Proposition bets are the bets you use to cure your itch. You can bet them daily, not bust, and get that dopamine rush your degenerate brain craves. Sides are where you pick your hill to die on and swing for the fences. Why? Because the books are daring you to beat them. They're throwing you a fastball down the middle.

Pick your spot and go yard.
Props are easier to beat than big markets, but it's not as easy as rolling out of bed and just throwing darts. You're dealing with higher juice, you're also dealing with competition to get good lines before they're hit and they go away. And you're also dealing with the very likely possibility that whatever system you're using sucks and isn't good enough. They're not designed to lose, they just aren't as sharply lined as sides/totals. But still, the bookmakers sharpen up and improve their props.

I agree, do both. But I believe that if you can't beat the props for a given sport, then you can't beat the sides/totals. 

 
Props are easier to beat than big markets, but it's not as easy as rolling out of bed and just throwing darts. You're dealing with higher juice, you're also dealing with competition to get good lines before they're hit and they go away. And you're also dealing with the very likely possibility that whatever system you're using sucks and isn't good enough. They're not designed to lose, they just aren't as sharply lined as sides/totals. But still, the bookmakers sharpen up and improve their props.

I agree, do both. But I believe that if you can't beat the props for a given sport, then you can't beat the sides/totals. 
I've done fairly well with SOG props over the years and I can't pick a NHL game to save my life.

 
I've done fairly well with SOG props over the years and I can't pick a NHL game to save my life.
Right, some people can beat props but can't take the next step and beat big markets consistently over a long period of time, myself included.  There are probably more people who can just beat props than people who can beat both. I just don't think it's possible to beat sides and not props. If you're awesome, and getting tons of money down, maybe you don't bother with props, but that's a separate matter.

 
F5 - Reds ML, -115

I'm not in love with betting on a team that's record is 27 - 45 on the year but they are at home and the Tigers are 13 - 21 on the road themselves.

Both pitchers are beatable and give up plenty of Home Runs. Could come down to whatever team goes yard closest to the 5th inning and the Reds get the last bat. Detroit snake bitten without Cabrera.

Any other team would probably be listed at -125 or worse in this situation.

 
F5 - Reds ML, -115

I'm not in love with betting on a team that's record is 27 - 45 
The Tigers fly balls flew out of the park and the Reds died on the warning track.

Should have just taken the Indians to score first at -160 with Kluber on the mound instead of betting on the worst team in baseball.

:yawn:

 
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ChainsawU said:
Opposing teams 14-2 SU versus KC in June. The Rangers lineup is healthy; riding a three-game win streak after losing the previous 7 in a row.
Riding them again tonight at even money. :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

 
Bibens-Dirkx has never worked with catcher Kiner-Falefa, and this start will be the first time facing an MLB team that has already seen him pitch. In Bibens-Dirkx's eight career starts the total hit 4,6,9,10,12,13,14,15. In the F5 innings of those eight games opposing teams scored 0,1,3,3,4,4,4,5 runs per game.

KC F5 o2½ +110

 
F5 - Rockies ML, -115

Huge Chad Bettis fan as a pitcher and cancer survivor. Rockies have gotten to Lugo before who is surely to regress from the 2.49 ERA he currently carries.

 
F5 - Rockies ML, -115

Huge Chad Bettis fan as a pitcher and cancer survivor. Rockies have gotten to Lugo before who is surely to regress from the 2.49 ERA he currently carries.
Bettis best F5 pitcher in MLB this year (along with Severino tomorrow, FYI) so I'da been with you.  Tough start tho.

 
I don't know what FIP is but I believe Lugo is much closer to being the 4.71 ERA pitcher he was last year than the 2.49 he's sporting now. He's not elite, imo. Coors Field will not treat him well.
:thumbup: There is xFIP too. I'm no expert either but I think it's more or less an indicator of how well a pitcher has pitched when taking into account how well his defense has performed behind him. I think LOB% is in that equation somewhere too. It's a good thing to look at when you're talking about trying to predict regression. Unless you're talking about Hector Santiago who always had a blowed up FIP and LOB percentage, to which he never regressed and it was frustrating how stupid I felt trying to predict like two seasons ago. Props for saying you didn't know what something was. Sign of maturity I love it.

 
:thumbup: There is xFIP too. I'm no expert either but I think it's more or less an indicator of how well a pitcher has pitched when taking into account how well his defense has performed behind him. I think LOB% is in that equation somewhere too. It's a good thing to look at when you're talking about trying to predict regression. Unless you're talking about Hector Santiago who always had a blowed up FIP and LOB percentage, to which he never regressed and it was frustrating how stupid I felt trying to predict like two seasons ago. Props for saying you didn't know what something was. Sign of maturity I love it.
Yeah Fielding Independant Pitching, the xFIP normalizes HR or something like that

or my alternate response “This guy SABRs”

 
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:thumbup: There is xFIP too. I'm no expert either but I think it's more or less an indicator of how well a pitcher has pitched when taking into account how well his defense has performed behind him. I think LOB% is in that equation somewhere too. It's a good thing to look at when you're talking about trying to predict regression. Unless you're talking about Hector Santiago who always had a blowed up FIP and LOB percentage, to which he never regressed and it was frustrating how stupid I felt trying to predict like two seasons ago. Props for saying you didn't know what something was. Sign of maturity I love it.
Hey, I'll take it, lol. I guess it's an interesting statistic such as run support. It's more or less telling you how lucky a guy is getting and if he's due to get, less lucky?

I try not to get too deep into advanced baseball statistics to avoid chasing my own tail. I still don't know what WAR is but know that Babe Ruth has the single season record for it.

 
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Daily Recap:

3-2 (60%), +$171.96 @ $100 a bet

F5 - Reds ML, -115 (L)
Cubs Dodgers no score in 1st, -135 (L)
F5 - Athletics ML, +115 (W)
F5 - Mariners ML, +170 (W)
F5 - Rockies ML, -115 (W)

Started off 0-2. Responded by winning my next 3 bets, including a +115 and +170 line. A little bad luck early, a little good luck late.

Tomorrow we'll see if I can turn this into a full blown ripper.

:thumbup:

 
Want to bet on France ML, -160 in the World Cup but I'm going to listen to the advice @gussy pounded into my head.

"Stick to NBA."

:lmao:

Also, I have a few early MLB leans but want to see the lineups before I open my mouth.

 
F5 - Red Sox ML, -116

Red Sox were held to 1 run on 4 hits yesterday against the Twins. A team that slumps together, heats up together. 

Porcello held the Twins to 1 ER in their ballpark last year and the wind is blowing in at 8MPH. Should stop a few well hit balls from going out. Could be low scoring but the Red Sox were so bad yesterday, they could put up a 5 spot early.

 
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F5 - Red Sox ML, -116

Red Sox were held to 1 run on 4 hits yesterday against the Twins. A team that slumps together, heats up together. 

Porcello held the Twins to 1 ER in their ballpark last year and the wind is blowing in at 8MPH. Should stop a few well hit balls from going out. Could be low scoring but the Red Sox were so bad yesterday, they could put up a 5 spot early.
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Rockies score first, +115

It's a get away game for the Mets. Freeland has only allowed 2 runs on 19 at bats (6.1 innings) against the Mets. No homeruns.

The plus money is just a bonus.

 
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she came over 3am last night we were doing it when she leaned back and opened her mouth real talk I blew it all over her and didn't fall asleep until like 10am just woke up

 
she came over 3am last night we were doing it when she leaned back and opened her mouth real talk I blew it all over her and didn't fall asleep until like 10am just woke up
The other night I was trying to turn over and my cpap hose got kind of caught, and I lunged and punched my wife in the head while she slept.  It was SO hot.  So I can totes relate.

 
also I think that's an untapped market is natural gasses you can inhale to make you feel better like the whip cream gas they use in hollywood california

 
Have you ever considered essential oils for your breathing? My massage therapist always puts a little bit of fresh mint oil into the headrest. It's really relaxing.

 

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