*****OFFICIAL FORMULA ONE GRAND PRIX THREAD***** (1 Viewer)

[TennesseeJed]

Looking like Newey will head to Aston Martin - and I imagine they are targeting a big splash with the 2026 regs.


I wonder who will partner Stroll in 2026?

Alonso is signed through 2026 when he'll be 45 years old. Lance Stroll will have run over 200 GPs by then which would put him into the top twenty all-time for number of race starts.

It's extra silly to speculate about the silly season two years out bu if the Aston Honda proves to be a competitive package in 2026 (and Fred decides to finally call it quits), it'll be the prize seat available for 2027

I figured Lance is not going anywhere - but Alonso could be pushed aside if a bigger name were available... say, a driver at Red Bull is not happy with the situation and wants out of his deal - and maybe wants the biggest payday in F1 history.

 

[The Gator]

Watched the 2019 French GP since I ahven't seen a race there yet. Cool looking track that i want to watch while tripping one time lol. Those crazy lines right off the track were wild.

 

[Eephus]

Watched the 2019 French GP since I ahven't seen a race there yet. Cool looking track that i want to watch while tripping one time lol. Those crazy lines right off the track were wild.

I don't miss Circuit Paul Ricard at all except for the flat out right hander at the end of the long straight. It's a boring flat track without landmarks and all that ridiculous painted runoff area.

I preferred Magny Cours where they raced the GP prior to Paul Ricard. There wasn't much passing there but that was the case for a lot of tracks before DRS. I don't sim race anymore but Magny Cours used to be challenging to "drive" and had a lovely flow to it. I think they moved the race because Magny Cours was in the middle of nowhere with poor transportation access.

 

[Eephus]

I know the reasons why but it's always strange to me that F1 has four races in the Middle East and three races here but none in either France or Germany.

The German GP used to draw massive crowds when the Schumachers, Frentzen and Heidfeld were on the grid.

 

[massraider]

I know the reasons why but it's always strange to me that F1 has four races in the Middle East and three races here but none in either France or Germany.

The German GP used to draw massive crowds when the Schumachers, Frentzen and Heidfeld were on the grid.

You're right, that's terrible.

Especially knowing Germans. I have never met a people who love to drive more than Germans.

 

[The Gator]

Any recommendations for some must watch classic races?

 

[TennesseeJed]

Any recommendations for some must watch classic races?

I don't actually recall the entire race - but watch the start of Singapore 2017.


The context is important - Hamilton was involved in a tight battle with Vettel for the Driver's Championship - and they had gone back and forth - Hamilton had just gone back in front by 3 points after the last race.

Vettel was on Pole, a young Max Verstappen was next to him in the front row, Vettel's teammate Kimi Raikkonen was behind Verstappen, Hamilton qualified 5th - so was in position to lose the championship lead. Its a night race... and, its wet.

 

[TennesseeJed]

I know the reasons why but it's always strange to me that F1 has four races in the Middle East and three races here but none in either France or Germany.

The German GP used to draw massive crowds when the Schumachers, Frentzen and Heidfeld were on the grid.

And now they are talking about finding a race in Africa.

3 in the US makes a little sense - given the geographic layout - east coast, central, and west coast. I still don't think most US fans have the same passion for F1 that Europeans have though.

 

[Eephus]

Any recommendations for some must watch classic races?

When I paid for F1 TV, I'd usually pick one season and watch a bunch of races from it to give some background of who was where and which teams were strong.

 

[Eephus]

And now they are talking about finding a race in Africa.

A return to Kyalami would be cool but it doesn't currently meet the required FIA grade 1 specs and more importantly there's more money to be made elsewhere. The Rwanda GP rumors have been around for a while but seem to be intensifying over the long break. I think we'll see another race in Asia before one happens in Africa.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Any recommendations for some must watch classic races?

I don't actually recall the entire race - but watch the start of Singapore 2017.


The context is important - Hamilton was involved in a tight battle with Vettel for the Driver's Championship - and they had gone back and forth - Hamilton had just gone back in front by 3 points after the last race.

Vettel was on Pole, a young Max Verstappen was next to him in the front row, Vettel's teammate Kimi Raikkonen was behind Verstappen, Hamilton qualified 5th - so was in position to lose the championship lead. Its a night race... and, its wet.

Just put this on - great stuff. Good seeing some of the "older" names - just watched Stroll, in a Williams, pass Alonso, in a McLaren. And then the radio message to Alonso from the pits: "We've lost all data from the car, so, we don't know what's going on...you'll have to manage this on your own!"

 

[The Gator]

Any recommendations for some must watch classic races?

I don't actually recall the entire race - but watch the start of Singapore 2017.


The context is important - Hamilton was involved in a tight battle with Vettel for the Driver's Championship - and they had gone back and forth - Hamilton had just gone back in front by 3 points after the last race.

Vettel was on Pole, a young Max Verstappen was next to him in the front row, Vettel's teammate Kimi Raikkonen was behind Verstappen, Hamilton qualified 5th - so was in position to lose the championship lead. Its a night race... and, its wet.

Just put this on - great stuff. Good seeing some of the "older" names - just watched Stroll, in a Williams, pass Alonso, in a McLaren. And then the radio message to Alonso from the pits: "We've lost all data from the car, so, we don't know what's going on...you'll have to manage this on your own!"

Same.

That launch by Kimi...but that had to be Seb's fault right? Max had nowhere to go.

 

[Eephus]

Just put this on - great stuff. Good seeing some of the "older" names - just watched Stroll, in a Williams, pass Alonso, in a McLaren. And then the radio message to Alonso from the pits: "We've lost all data from the car, so, we don't know what's going on...you'll have to manage this on your own!"

The McLaren that year was a turd

 

[TennesseeJed]

Just put this on - great stuff. Good seeing some of the "older" names - just watched Stroll, in a Williams, pass Alonso, in a McLaren. And then the radio message to Alonso from the pits: "We've lost all data from the car, so, we don't know what's going on...you'll have to manage this on your own!"

The McLaren that year was a turd

If I am remembering - that was Zac Brown's first year at the team?

I remember watching a pre-curser to Drive to Survive - that was a 4-6 episode series on just McLaren - and how much they struggled that year.

 

[The Gator]

Dang, they don't have onboards for the 2017 season. That would be a fun rewatch

 

[TennesseeJed]

Any recommendations for some must watch classic races?

I don't actually recall the entire race - but watch the start of Singapore 2017.


The context is important - Hamilton was involved in a tight battle with Vettel for the Driver's Championship - and they had gone back and forth - Hamilton had just gone back in front by 3 points after the last race.

Vettel was on Pole, a young Max Verstappen was next to him in the front row, Vettel's teammate Kimi Raikkonen was behind Verstappen, Hamilton qualified 5th - so was in position to lose the championship lead. Its a night race... and, its wet.

Just put this on - great stuff. Good seeing some of the "older" names - just watched Stroll, in a Williams, pass Alonso, in a McLaren. And then the radio message to Alonso from the pits: "We've lost all data from the car, so, we don't know what's going on...you'll have to manage this on your own!"

Same.

That launch by Kimi...but that had to be Seb's fault right? Max had nowhere to go.

Yeah - Vettel at fault for the 1st corner, plus also just lost it on his own after that.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Oh, BTW - its Race Week!

 

[Eephus]

Weather could be crazy for FP1 with heavy rains and winds gusting to 50mph.

Rain is also forecast for Saturday but race day looks clear.

 

[The Gator]

Any classic Zandvooooort races i need to check oot?

 

[Eephus]

Any classic Zandvooooort races i need to check oot?

They just resumed racing there post-pandemic after being off the calendar since the 80s. Last year's race with the rain shower at the start was the best one of the three.

 

[The Gator]

Any classic Zandvooooort races i need to check oot?

They just resumed racing there post-pandemic after being off the calendar since the 80s. Last year's race with the rain shower at the start was the best one of the three.

That's what I'm finding out. the internets listed a bunch of races from the 80s lol.

 

[The Gator]

btw, Ruth Buscombe

I want her voice as my maps guide

 

[The Gator]

That gyro cam on Norris’ lap, wow

 

[TennesseeJed]

Haas, might not make it out of the Netherlands...

Following a Swiss arbitration court hearing in June, it was ruled that Haas should refund Uralkali part of its sponsorship payment made for 2022, prior to its title deal being cancelled in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

While the court stated that Haas was within its rights to terminate the deal, it also said that the American-owned squad could only keep a portion of the $13 million sponsorship balance paid for the campaign.

Haas was therefore ordered to give back the remainder of the sponsorship payment that went beyond 4 March, 2022, when the deal was cancelled. It is believed that this totalled around $9 million.
Following Uralkali’s claims last month that Haas had missed the July payment deadline for the refund, it is understood that the Russian company decided to escalate the matter with courts in Holland this week.

It asked for Haas’s assets at the Dutch Grand Prix to be seized – with a provisional ruling being given in its favour.
As a result, bailiffs and police visited the Haas team at Zandvoort on Thursday night to push forward with the matter and evaluate the team’s assets.

While it was agreed that Haas’s participation in the Dutch Grand Prix could proceed as normal, it is understood that the team has been told that it will not be allowed to remove its cars and equipment from the country after the race until the outstanding payment has been made.

A statement issued by Haas made clear that it was now working with Uralkali to finalise the transfer of the funds, with it saying it had to be sure that any payments fully complied with sanctions that have been imposed on various Russian companies.

The statement said: “Haas fully intends to pay to Uralkali all amounts due pursuant to the arbitration award, and there is no dispute over the amounts owed.

“Haas has been working with its lawyers to ensure payment will comply with all relevant US, EU, UK and Swiss sanctions and regulations.

 

[Eephus]

Haas, might not make it out of the Netherlands...

Following a Swiss arbitration court hearing in June, it was ruled that Haas should refund Uralkali part of its sponsorship payment made for 2022, prior to its title deal being cancelled in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

While the court stated that Haas was within its rights to terminate the deal, it also said that the American-owned squad could only keep a portion of the $13 million sponsorship balance paid for the campaign.

Haas was therefore ordered to give back the remainder of the sponsorship payment that went beyond 4 March, 2022, when the deal was cancelled. It is believed that this totalled around $9 million.
Following Uralkali’s claims last month that Haas had missed the July payment deadline for the refund, it is understood that the Russian company decided to escalate the matter with courts in Holland this week.

It asked for Haas’s assets at the Dutch Grand Prix to be seized – with a provisional ruling being given in its favour.
As a result, bailiffs and police visited the Haas team at Zandvoort on Thursday night to push forward with the matter and evaluate the team’s assets.

While it was agreed that Haas’s participation in the Dutch Grand Prix could proceed as normal, it is understood that the team has been told that it will not be allowed to remove its cars and equipment from the country after the race until the outstanding payment has been made.

A statement issued by Haas made clear that it was now working with Uralkali to finalise the transfer of the funds, with it saying it had to be sure that any payments fully complied with sanctions that have been imposed on various Russian companies.

The statement said: “Haas fully intends to pay to Uralkali all amounts due pursuant to the arbitration award, and there is no dispute over the amounts owed.

“Haas has been working with its lawyers to ensure payment will comply with all relevant US, EU, UK and Swiss sanctions and regulations.

Lie down with dogs...

 

[Sammy3469]

Haas, might not make it out of the Netherlands...

Following a Swiss arbitration court hearing in June, it was ruled that Haas should refund Uralkali part of its sponsorship payment made for 2022, prior to its title deal being cancelled in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

While the court stated that Haas was within its rights to terminate the deal, it also said that the American-owned squad could only keep a portion of the $13 million sponsorship balance paid for the campaign.

Haas was therefore ordered to give back the remainder of the sponsorship payment that went beyond 4 March, 2022, when the deal was cancelled. It is believed that this totalled around $9 million.
Following Uralkali’s claims last month that Haas had missed the July payment deadline for the refund, it is understood that the Russian company decided to escalate the matter with courts in Holland this week.

It asked for Haas’s assets at the Dutch Grand Prix to be seized – with a provisional ruling being given in its favour.
As a result, bailiffs and police visited the Haas team at Zandvoort on Thursday night to push forward with the matter and evaluate the team’s assets.

While it was agreed that Haas’s participation in the Dutch Grand Prix could proceed as normal, it is understood that the team has been told that it will not be allowed to remove its cars and equipment from the country after the race until the outstanding payment has been made.

A statement issued by Haas made clear that it was now working with Uralkali to finalise the transfer of the funds, with it saying it had to be sure that any payments fully complied with sanctions that have been imposed on various Russian companies.

The statement said: “Haas fully intends to pay to Uralkali all amounts due pursuant to the arbitration award, and there is no dispute over the amounts owed.

“Haas has been working with its lawyers to ensure payment will comply with all relevant US, EU, UK and Swiss sanctions and regulations.

Good luck with this last sentence. My guess is the funds/car ends up in escrow and Mazapin the Elder never gets his money back.

 

[Eephus]

Dominant lap by Norris.

Zandvoort is one of the best tracks for in-car shots but hasn't been great for racing since it's been back on the calendar. Most teams will probably do two stoppers although some midfielders may try to stretch it on mediums. All bets are off if it's wet.

 

[The Gator]

Dominant lap by Norris.

Zandvoort is one of the best tracks for in-car shots but hasn't been great for racing since it's been back on the calendar. Most teams will probably do two stoppers although some midfielders may try to stretch it on mediums. All bets are off if it's wet.

Love the banked turns. Those don't create more options for racing lines?

 

[Eephus]

Love the banked turns. Those don't create more options for racing lines?

There's some passing in the long banked left hander in the first sector but the final banked right is all about nailing the exit for the main straight.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Wish I had the kind of bankroll to exploit Max -350 for the Drivers Championship odds that I saw.

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Relative to the race a perfectly timed post by me

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Norris didn't gain any places while Sargeant picked up two!

-QG

 

[Eephus]

I guess they can't all be classics. I was surprised Piastri couldn't do anything with Leclerc in the last stint but clean air was king.

If this is it for Sargeant, him holding off Yuki for 30 laps will be the final image.

 

[TennesseeJed]

(Secretly hoping Lando loses the championship by about 5 points...)

#badtactics

 

[TennesseeJed]

Does seem that McLaren are destined to win the Constructors Championship - maybe they will give that to Lando...

 

[QuizGuy66]

McLaren is the betting favorite to win constructors and rightly so

-QG

 

[The Gator]

Enjoyed the race, love what McLaren is doing. Strong drive from Ferrari, too.


Starting an Anime called Overtake. Might report back

 

[PIK95]

That race was hella boring.

 

[Eephus]

Sargeant out at Williams. He'll be replaced by F2 driver Franco Colapinto from Argentina.

 

[The Gator]

Wow, not Mick???

 

[Dickies]

Sargeant out at Williams. He'll be replaced by F2 driver Franco Colapinto from Argentina.

I was rooting for him, but he is always outclassed by Albon and has to have wrecked more cars than anyone else in the field.

 

[TennesseeJed]

If you like Pina Coladas ....


Oh, wait, wrong thread...

 

[TennesseeJed]

Sargeant out at Williams. He'll be replaced by F2 driver Franco Colapinto from Argentina.

Antonelli getting into Russell's car for FP1 this weekend - I expect if he does not wreck it, Mercedes will announce him as their 2nd driver for next season.


(If he wrecks - they will still announce it - but not until the dead period next week...)

 

[Eephus]

Colapinto is getting thrown into the deep end with only a partial F2 season and one FP1 appearance at Silverstone. He's been good in F2 this year but not in a way that would suggest he's ready for the big step up.

Sargeant's been terrible and deserves the gong. I hope he lands on his feet somewhere and the next American in the sport does a better job.

 

[thecatch]

Colapinto is getting thrown into the deep end with only a partial F2 season and one FP1 appearance at Silverstone. He's been good in F2 this year but not in a way that would suggest he's ready for the big step up.

Sargeant's been terrible and deserves the gong. I hope he lands on his feet somewhere and the next American in the sport does a better job.

You guys know this stuff a lot better than I do, but it seems like this is one of the worst possible seats for a young driver to be in (the worst outside of Sauber). A little bit like a rookie QB coming in and looking bad on an awful team.

 

[Eephus]

You guys know this stuff a lot better than I do, but it seems like this is one of the worst possible seats for a young driver to be in (the worst outside of Sauber). A little bit like a rookie QB coming in and looking bad on an awful team.

A shot at a F1 race day seat is something that a young driver would do almost anything for. The circumstances aren't ideal but if Colapinto shows something in his nine races, it's a bigger boost to his career than anything he could possibly accomplish in F2.

Aside from the short notice, the Williams ride is better than when Sargeant came in. Monza is a familiar track to Colapinto and as de Vries proved a few years ago (also for Williams), a place where an inexperienced driver can be quick if the car's right.

 

[thecatch]

You guys know this stuff a lot better than I do, but it seems like this is one of the worst possible seats for a young driver to be in (the worst outside of Sauber). A little bit like a rookie QB coming in and looking bad on an awful team.

A shot at a F1 race day seat is something that a young driver would do almost anything for. The circumstances aren't ideal but if Colapinto shows something in his nine races, it's a bigger boost to his career than anything he could possibly accomplish in F2.

Aside from the short notice, the Williams ride is better than when Sargeant came in. Monza is a familiar track to Colapinto and as de Vries proved a few years ago (also for Williams), a place where an inexperienced driver can be quick if the car's right.

My comment was aimed as much at Sargeant as much as the new guy. Seems like it's hard to say how terrible Logan was with this total trainwreck of a team. If the new guy outperforms Sargeant right away, we'll have an answer to that question, I guess.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Sargeant out at Williams. He'll be replaced by F2 driver Franco Colapinto from Argentina.

-QG

 

[Sammy3469]

You guys know this stuff a lot better than I do, but it seems like this is one of the worst possible seats for a young driver to be in (the worst outside of Sauber). A little bit like a rookie QB coming in and looking bad on an awful team.

A shot at a F1 race day seat is something that a young driver would do almost anything for. The circumstances aren't ideal but if Colapinto shows something in his nine races, it's a bigger boost to his career than anything he could possibly accomplish in F2.

Aside from the short notice, the Williams ride is better than when Sargeant came in. Monza is a familiar track to Colapinto and as de Vries proved a few years ago (also for Williams), a place where an inexperienced driver can be quick if the car's right.

I'm surprised they didn't give it to more of a caretaker in the hopes they don't crash.

 

[QuizGuy66]

You guys know this stuff a lot better than I do, but it seems like this is one of the worst possible seats for a young driver to be in (the worst outside of Sauber). A little bit like a rookie QB coming in and looking bad on an awful team.

A shot at a F1 race day seat is something that a young driver would do almost anything for. The circumstances aren't ideal but if Colapinto shows something in his nine races, it's a bigger boost to his career than anything he could possibly accomplish in F2.

Aside from the short notice, the Williams ride is better than when Sargeant came in. Monza is a familiar track to Colapinto and as de Vries proved a few years ago (also for Williams), a place where an inexperienced driver can be quick if the car's right.

I'm surprised they didn't give it to more of a caretaker in the hopes they don't crash.

Seb woulda been kind fun...

-QG