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As for me, I'm just not much of a Stones fan.

As to the Brubeck, it changed the way music is played.

And yeah, I don't entirely understand song vs composition either.
expand please, oh sniper of books and childrens' movies.
Well, it's not that there had never been a composition in 5/4 time before, but this is the first mainstream jazz record composed in that time signature, which was groundbreaking.
zzzzzzzz..... yeah- the ground opened right up and swallowed a handful of nerdy, white jazz musicians. :nerd:
 
Singin' In The Rain is a true classic. There are at least 4 sequences in that film that are amnog the greatest in movie history: the theme song of course, the Donald O' Connor "Make 'Em Laugh" scene, the "Good Morning" number, and most of all th ending ballet which Kelly choreographed himself and which is almost a form of performance art. Great pick.
 
And yeah, I don't entirely understand song vs composition either.
a song is basically a single-themed musical piece, a composition integrates multiple themes or variations upon a single theme. it's not just lyrics, cuz there are plenty of compositions with singing. i broke them up mostly to separate classical from jazz/pop, but will try to indulge crossovers where i can. i offered timschochet the knowledge that Eine Kleine Nachtmuzik would fare better in my rankings as a song & would have told anyone picking Take Five as a composition the same thing. Time Out, the album on which Take Five was released, would probably have been played as a single piece if it had preceded recording, because it is an integrated series of exercises in signature & modality and would be considered a composition if the necessities of selling records hadnt dictated their being broken up into "songs". hope that sheds light - will answer any questions by PM. will not aid attention hos by bartering terms in this forum, however - i am perfectly content to let these likes voluteer for last place with their selections in such circumstances. nufced
 
If this is a "draft" and someone wants to take "toast" or "Wrestling" as their play, I have no problem with it.

 
I recently found out (While watching Singing in the Rain on TV) that Singin' in the Rain was not an original song for the movie. IIRC, the song was around 25 years old.

 
22.13 - "Singing' In The Rain" - Movie - MGM, Gene Kelly, Donald O'Connor, Debbie Reynolds

nufced

from wikki............................

Singin' in the Rain is a 1952 comedy musical film starring Gene Kelly, Donald O'Connor, and Debbie Reynolds and directed by Kelly and Stanley Donen, with Kelly also providing the choreography. It offers a comic depiction of Hollywood's transition from silent films to "talkies."

The movie is frequently described as one of the best musicals ever made, and ranking fifth in the AFI updated list of the greatest American films in 2007.

In the famous dance routine in which Gene Kelly sings the title song while twirling an umbrella, splashing through puddles and getting soaked to the skin, he was actually dancing in water with a little bit of milk added, so that the water puddles and raindrops would show up better on film. Kelly was sick with a 103-degree fever at the time.[7] In addition, Kelly managed to perform the entire song in one take, thanks to cameras placed at predetermined locations.

Debbie Reynolds was not a dancer at the time she made Singin' in the Rain — her background was as a gymnast.[6] Kelly apparently insulted her for her lack of dance experience, upsetting her. Fred Astaire was hanging around the studio and found Reynolds crying under a piano. Hearing what had happened, Astaire volunteered to help her with her dancing. Kelly later admitted that he had not been kind to Reynolds and was surprised that she was still willing to talk to him afterwards. After shooting the "Good Morning" routine, Reynolds' feet were bleeding.[6] Years later, she was quoted as saying that making this film and surviving childbirth were the two most difficult experiences of her life.
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Singin' In The Rain is a true classic. There are at least 4 sequences in that film that are amnog the greatest in movie history: the theme song of course, the Donald O' Connor "Make 'Em Laugh" scene, the "Good Morning" number, and most of all th ending ballet which Kelly choreographed himself and which is almost a form of performance art. Great pick.
:bowtie: Well, Wreslemania was just taken, The WOW (Women of Wresting) girls were not worthy of going here imo, and I am saving Nigel Tufnel for a late WC pick - so I was in a bind.

I actually got in 2 picks so far, even tho they got lost in a storm of debate and controversy - and both got good reviews from timschochet :wub:

I have some Beajolais chilling, the Basketball game on, BBQ Nachos about to go into the oven, and am headed back to Oregon tomorrow morning to complete a vacation interrupted - I am :excited:

 
And yeah, I don't entirely understand song vs composition either.
a song is basically a single-themed musical piece, a composition integrates multiple themes or variations upon a single theme. it's not just lyrics, cuz there are plenty of compositions with singing. i broke them up mostly to separate classical from jazz/pop, but will try to indulge crossovers where i can. i offered timschochet the knowledge that Eine Kleine Nachtmuzik would fare better in my rankings as a song & would have told anyone picking Take Five as a composition the same thing. Time Out, the album on which Take Five was released, would probably have been played as a single piece if it had preceded recording, because it is an integrated series of exercises in signature & modality and would be considered a composition if the necessities of selling records hadnt dictated their being broken up into "songs". hope that sheds light - will answer any questions by PM. will not aid attention hos by bartering terms in this forum, however - i am perfectly content to let these likes voluteer for last place with their selections in such circumstances. nufced
Take Five was released as a song. I don't regard Eine Kleine Nachtmusic, one of the alltime great classical pieces ever written, to be in the "song" category. I will keep it as a composition where it rightfully belongs. Feel free to rank it where you will, WP; you're the one that will have to live with yourself afterwards.
 
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I'm sad that Wrestlemania was disqualified :banned: I guess you could put it in the wildcard section if you really wanted to.
I'm surprised Tim didn't look up the definition of "song" the way he was quick to post the definition of "play" to try to veto my selection. There's two distinct sets of rules in play now. :rolleyes:
How unexpected. Sniping on Tim because another of your silly little picks was rejected. Maybe I should've taken the over.Gonna make another Hollywood joke now?
 
MisfitBlondes said:
I'm sad that Wrestlemania was disqualified :banned: I guess you could put it in the wildcard section if you really wanted to.
I'm surprised Tim didn't look up the definition of "song" the way he was quick to post the definition of "play" to try to veto my selection. There's two distinct sets of rules in play now. :rolleyes:
I'm not saying it was a good pick, but I believe that the definition of the play category could easily be expanded to include picks like this. But I guess not...
 
MisfitBlondes said:
MisfitBlondes said:
I'm sad that Wrestlemania was disqualified :banned: I guess you could put it in the wildcard section if you really wanted to.
I'm surprised Tim didn't look up the definition of "song" the way he was quick to post the definition of "play" to try to veto my selection. There's two distinct sets of rules in play now. :rolleyes:
How unexpected. Sniping on Tim because another of your silly little picks was rejected. Maybe I should've taken the over.Gonna make another Hollywood joke now?
You did that in the Tyson thread when you felt compelled to mention working on Kimmel. You're a class act, kid. :loco:
Being as how it was germane to the conversation, sure thing only it wasn't a joke. I fail to see how talking about the people I work with is being unclassy though.eta :cry:
 
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MisfitBlondes said:
MisfitBlondes said:
MisfitBlondes said:
I'm surprised Tim didn't look up the definition of "song" the way he was quick to post the definition of "play" to try to veto my selection. There's two distinct sets of rules in play now. :thumbup:
How unexpected. Sniping on Tim because another of your silly little picks was rejected. Maybe I should've taken the over.Gonna make another Hollywood joke now?
You did that in the Tyson thread when you felt compelled to mention working on Kimmel. You're a class act, kid. :thumbup:
Being as how it was germane to the conversation, sure thing only it wasn't a joke. I fail to see how talking about the people I work with is being unclassy though.
You're a huge mark for yourself, we get it. You name drop any chance you get in hopes that people will think you are awesome. You're quickly moving up my list of iIdols. :thumbup:
I'm sorry if you're envious of my work. I can't help it if sometimes there is some connection between the people we're discussing and my experiences with them. I'm sure a LOT of people like yourelf are impressed because I worked with Tyson and Levine. I'm sure no one else has ever talked about how their own personal and job experiences have had any insights or influences on anything they write in here, it's just me. :thumbup: My work deal with some famous people that we happen to be talking about. If you don't like it, put me on ignore and figure out another silly pick you can make that'll get disqualified because it doesn't fit, or rail on Tim a little more, or make another name dropping Hollywood joke at me. And uh, :cry:
 
Is the clock still on?
No, but the persnickety snipe session seems to be :bored:
you have NO clue what you're talking about! this is a free & fair exchange of ideas and personalities have nothing to do with it. you're only pointing it out from some need to call attention to yourself without having to exercise the courage to make a stand on the issues. bottlebaby much? and "persnickety"?! what are you - some catlady who requires excessive lubrication to even walk over to people you shush at the library?!?!
 
22.15 - Abrantes - OTC

22.16 - Doug B - Autoskip

22.17 - Timschochet - In the Hole

22.18 - Postradamus

22.19 - Rodg12

22.20 - Krista4

23.01 - Fennis

23.02 - Rodg12

23.03 - Postradamus

23.04 - Timschochet

23.05 - Doug B

23.06 - Abrantes

23.07 - BobbyLayne/Flysack

Top half is the fast part of the draft. We pwn. You bottom halfers need to straighten up. TIA

 
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22.15 Caravaggio's The Calling of St. Matthew (Painting)

Closing out my paintings early 'cause I don't trust you vultures to keep away from this one. I have no elaborate stories regarding the piece, but this piece (and most of Caravaggio's work, honestly) had a huge impact on me as an artist due to its composition and, above all, its command of exacerbated light and dark. Can't think of anything cooler than this for a black & white illustration junkie like myself. I admire most of the older Renaissance painters for similar compositional skills, but Caravaggio's harsh lighting seemed to give his figures unprecedented life and volume. It packs a phenomenal amount of information, and directs the viewer's eyes without being forceful. Simple, but incredible.

The Calling of Saint Matthew is a masterpiece by Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio completed in 1599-1600 for the Contarelli Chapel in the church of the French congregation, San Luigi dei Francesi in Rome. Over a decade before, Cardinal Matteu Contreil (in Italian, Matteo Contarelli) had left funds and specific instructions for the decoration of a chapel based on themes of his namesake. Decoration of the dome was started with frescoes by the late Mannerist artist, and one of the most popular painters in Rome at the time, Cavalier D'Arpino, Caravaggio's former employer. But with the elder painter busy with royal and papal patronage, Cardinal Francesco Del Monte, Caravaggio's patron and also the prefect of the Fabbrica of St Peter's (the Vatican office for Church property), intervened to obtain for Caravaggio his first major church commission and first painting with more than a handful of figures.

The three adjacent Caravaggio canvases in the Contarelli chapel represent a decisive shift from the idealising Mannerism of which d'Arpino was the last major practitioner, and the newer, more naturalistic and subject-oriented art represented by Caravaggio and Annibale Carracci: they were highly influential in their day. The Calling hangs opposite The Martyrdom of Saint Matthew. Between the two, at the altar, is The Inspiration of Saint Matthew (1602). While the Martyrdom was likely the first to be started, the Calling was, by report, the first to be completed. The commission for these two lateral paintings — the Calling and the Martyrdom — is dated July 1599, and final payment was made in July 1600.

The painting depicts the story from the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 9:9): Jesus saw a man named Matthew at his seat in the custom house, and said to him, "Follow me", and Matthew rose and followed him.

In this painting, the gloom and the canvassed window appears to situate the table indoors. Christ brings the true light to the dark space of the sitting tax-collectors. This painting records the collision of two worlds — the ineluctable power of the immortal faith, and the mundane, foppish, world of Levi. Jesus spears him with a beam of light, with an apparent effortless hand gesture he exerts an inescapable sublime gravity, with no need for wrenching worldly muscularity. Jesus' bare feet are classical simplicity in contrast with the dandified accountants; being barefoot may also symbolize holiness, as if one is on holy ground. Similarly to his treatment of Paul in the Conversion on the Way to Damascus, Caravaggio chronicles the moment when a daily routine is interrupted by the miraculous. Around the man to become Matthew are either the unperceptive or unperturbed bystanders.
The setting is Matthew s tax office but the scene conjures up the shady atmosphere of long evenings spent gambling or looking armed for adventure in the streets and taverns of Rome.

The subject is taken from a short passage in the gospel of Matthew (9.9): 'Jesus saw a man called Matthew at his seat in the custom house and said to him 'Follow me ' and Matthew rose and followed him.'

...Matthew rich and fashionably dressed as befitted his status as toll-gatherer and publican a coin tucked in the brim of his hat sits at his work table with his louche companions.

...Caravaggio sets a world of brilliant colour of bold contrasts of reds greens and golds of the varied textures of velvets rakish feathers and soft fur against the timeless and austere simplicity of Christ and Peter roughly toga-clad and barefoot. He contrasts lightness of gesture and expression with ritual solemnity and the hand of Christ is modelled on Michelangelo's hand of Adam on the Sistine ceiling.

...The play of light and shade creates intense drama. The figures are wrapped in shadow and the large area of dark wall over their heads seems to weigh upon them prison-like suggesting man's brief stay in this gloomy world. The darkness is pierced by the shaft of light which falls diagonally across the wall following Christ's hand and brightens the face of St Matthew who turns towards it. It is a moving symbol of divine illumination. Matthew was widely thought of as a sinner whose call redeemed him from the dark abyss of sin. As St John Chrysostom wrote 'Matthew... was a publican living in continual rapine. But he... all at once stripped himself of the mischief and quenched his thirst and followed after spiritual gain'.
 
22.17 Manet's Luncheon On The Grass (painting)

Le déjeuner sur l'herbe (French, "The Lunch on the Grass") — originally titled Le Bain (The Bath) — is a large oil on canvas painting by Édouard Manet. Created in 1862 and 1863, its juxtaposition of a female nude with fully dressed men sparked controversy when the work was first exhibited at the Salon des Refusés. The piece is now in the Musée d'Orsay in Paris.

One of the most controversial, shocking, and influential paintings in the history of art. It's considered by many art historians to be the key painting in the transformation from Realism to Impressionism.

 
22.17 Manet's Luncheon On The Grass (painting)

Le déjeuner sur l'herbe (French, "The Lunch on the Grass") — originally titled Le Bain (The Bath) — is a large oil on canvas painting by Édouard Manet. Created in 1862 and 1863, its juxtaposition of a female nude with fully dressed men sparked controversy when the work was first exhibited at the Salon des Refusés. The piece is now in the Musée d'Orsay in Paris.

One of the most controversial, shocking, and influential paintings in the history of art. It's considered by many art historians to be the key painting in the transformation from Realism to Impressionism.
:moneybag:
 
I need some help with the rules please. I am looking over the list of inventions taken and am unsure how this rule applies.

Invention (5) Need not be attributable to one person, but the discovery must be known. For instance, we don't know when fire was discovered, or the wheel, so these would be ineligible
Not to pick on anyone's picks, because I dont have a problem with any of them, but I am trying to better understand the rules. Why is say gunpowder (just one example) allowed, but fire or the wheel is not.
 
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22.15 Caravaggio's The Calling of St. Matthew (Painting)

Closing out my paintings early 'cause I don't trust you vultures to keep away from this one. I have no elaborate stories regarding the piece, but this piece (and most of Caravaggio's work, honestly) had a huge impact on me as an artist due to its composition and, above all, its command of exacerbated light and dark. Can't think of anything cooler than this for a black & white illustration junkie like myself. I admire most of the older Renaissance painters for similar compositional skills, but Caravaggio's harsh lighting seemed to give his figures unprecedented life and volume. It packs a phenomenal amount of information, and directs the viewer's eyes without being forceful. Simple, but incredible.

The Calling of Saint Matthew is a masterpiece by Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio completed in 1599-1600 for the Contarelli Chapel in the church of the French congregation, San Luigi dei Francesi in Rome. Over a decade before, Cardinal Matteu Contreil (in Italian, Matteo Contarelli) had left funds and specific instructions for the decoration of a chapel based on themes of his namesake. Decoration of the dome was started with frescoes by the late Mannerist artist, and one of the most popular painters in Rome at the time, Cavalier D'Arpino, Caravaggio's former employer. But with the elder painter busy with royal and papal patronage, Cardinal Francesco Del Monte, Caravaggio's patron and also the prefect of the Fabbrica of St Peter's (the Vatican office for Church property), intervened to obtain for Caravaggio his first major church commission and first painting with more than a handful of figures.

The three adjacent Caravaggio canvases in the Contarelli chapel represent a decisive shift from the idealising Mannerism of which d'Arpino was the last major practitioner, and the newer, more naturalistic and subject-oriented art represented by Caravaggio and Annibale Carracci: they were highly influential in their day. The Calling hangs opposite The Martyrdom of Saint Matthew. Between the two, at the altar, is The Inspiration of Saint Matthew (1602). While the Martyrdom was likely the first to be started, the Calling was, by report, the first to be completed. The commission for these two lateral paintings — the Calling and the Martyrdom — is dated July 1599, and final payment was made in July 1600.

The painting depicts the story from the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 9:9): Jesus saw a man named Matthew at his seat in the custom house, and said to him, "Follow me", and Matthew rose and followed him.

In this painting, the gloom and the canvassed window appears to situate the table indoors. Christ brings the true light to the dark space of the sitting tax-collectors. This painting records the collision of two worlds — the ineluctable power of the immortal faith, and the mundane, foppish, world of Levi. Jesus spears him with a beam of light, with an apparent effortless hand gesture he exerts an inescapable sublime gravity, with no need for wrenching worldly muscularity. Jesus' bare feet are classical simplicity in contrast with the dandified accountants; being barefoot may also symbolize holiness, as if one is on holy ground. Similarly to his treatment of Paul in the Conversion on the Way to Damascus, Caravaggio chronicles the moment when a daily routine is interrupted by the miraculous. Around the man to become Matthew are either the unperceptive or unperturbed bystanders.
The setting is Matthew s tax office but the scene conjures up the shady atmosphere of long evenings spent gambling or looking armed for adventure in the streets and taverns of Rome.

The subject is taken from a short passage in the gospel of Matthew (9.9): 'Jesus saw a man called Matthew at his seat in the custom house and said to him 'Follow me ' and Matthew rose and followed him.'

...Matthew rich and fashionably dressed as befitted his status as toll-gatherer and publican a coin tucked in the brim of his hat sits at his work table with his louche companions.

...Caravaggio sets a world of brilliant colour of bold contrasts of reds greens and golds of the varied textures of velvets rakish feathers and soft fur against the timeless and austere simplicity of Christ and Peter roughly toga-clad and barefoot. He contrasts lightness of gesture and expression with ritual solemnity and the hand of Christ is modelled on Michelangelo's hand of Adam on the Sistine ceiling.

...The play of light and shade creates intense drama. The figures are wrapped in shadow and the large area of dark wall over their heads seems to weigh upon them prison-like suggesting man's brief stay in this gloomy world. The darkness is pierced by the shaft of light which falls diagonally across the wall following Christ's hand and brightens the face of St Matthew who turns towards it. It is a moving symbol of divine illumination. Matthew was widely thought of as a sinner whose call redeemed him from the dark abyss of sin. As St John Chrysostom wrote 'Matthew... was a publican living in continual rapine. But he... all at once stripped himself of the mischief and quenched his thirst and followed after spiritual gain'.
Love me some chiaroscuro. Great, great pick here :lmao:
 
22.17 Manet's Luncheon On The Grass (painting)

Le déjeuner sur l'herbe (French, "The Lunch on the Grass") — originally titled Le Bain (The Bath) — is a large oil on canvas painting by Édouard Manet. Created in 1862 and 1863, its juxtaposition of a female nude with fully dressed men sparked controversy when the work was first exhibited at the Salon des Refusés. The piece is now in the Musée d'Orsay in Paris.

One of the most controversial, shocking, and influential paintings in the history of art. It's considered by many art historians to be the key painting in the transformation from Realism to Impressionism.
nice one. :marks another off the list:
 
I need some help with the rules please. I am looking over the list of inventions taken and am unsure how this rule applies.

Invention (5) Need not be attributable to one person, but the discovery must be known. For instance, we don't know when fire was discovered, or the wheel, so these would be ineligible
Not to pick on anyone's picks, because I dont have a problem with any of them, but I am trying to better understand the rules. Why is say gunpowder (just one example) allowed, but fire or the wheel is not.
fire would have been a discovery, imo. no idea about the wheel... probably cause you can't set a group or time period to it. similar to norwood/my pick of farming not being allowed...that said if you wanted to go with the match, or the lighter, they would probably be allowed. :thumbup:
 
I need some help with the rules please. I am looking over the list of inventions taken and am unsure how this rule applies.

Invention (5) Need not be attributable to one person, but the discovery must be known. For instance, we don't know when fire was discovered, or the wheel, so these would be ineligible
Not to pick on anyone's picks, because I dont have a problem with any of them, but I am trying to better understand the rules. Why is say gunpowder (just one example) allowed, but fire or the wheel is not.
fire would have been a discovery, imo. no idea about the wheel... probably cause you can't set a group or time period to it. similar to norwood/my pick of farming not being allowed...that said if you wanted to go with the match, or the lighter, they would probably be allowed. :shrug:
I guess I don't understand the logic of disallowing Farming (seems like a great pick to me), but allow the compass, gunpowder, or even the mechanical clock or indoor plumbing. Even something like paper is a best guess. Oh well.
 
22.17 Manet's Luncheon On The Grass (painting)

Le déjeuner sur l'herbe (French, "The Lunch on the Grass") — originally titled Le Bain (The Bath) — is a large oil on canvas painting by Édouard Manet. Created in 1862 and 1863, its juxtaposition of a female nude with fully dressed men sparked controversy when the work was first exhibited at the Salon des Refusés. The piece is now in the Musée d'Orsay in Paris.

One of the most controversial, shocking, and influential paintings in the history of art. It's considered by many art historians to be the key painting in the transformation from Realism to Impressionism.
Was hoping to make this my 3rd painting . . .
 
I guess I don't understand the logic of disallowing Farming (seems like a great pick to me), but allow the compass, gunpowder, or even the mechanical clock or indoor plumbing. Even something like paper is a best guess. Oh well.
Basically it's because we can't pinpoint the time of the invention within a reasonable period. Also, as in the case of "farming", it was considered too generic.
 
very sorry all. the power was out fora few hours there. as always, skip me after 15. no need to hold anything up.

Well I had this great write-up just ready to hit Add Reply, but some genius decided to wreck into a powerline.... :thumbup:

22.18 Mass in B Minor - Johann Sebastian Bach - Composition

Closing out the Composition category with this pick. Pretty solid list, nabbed two of my favorites, now adding some potential top 5 firepower with the Mass in B minor. Bach's best work, and an absolutely beautiful piece of music.

Kyrie

 
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very sorry all. the power was out fora few hours there. as always, skip me after 15. no need to hold anything up.

Well I had this great write-up just ready to hit Add Reply, but some genius decided to wreck into a powerline.... :rant:

22.18 Mass in B Minor - Johannes Sebastian Bach - Composition

Closing out the Composition category with this pick. Pretty solid list, nabbed two of my favorites, now adding some potential top 5 firepower with the Mass in B minor. Bach's best work.

"Kyrie"

"Gloria"

"Symbolum Nicenum" (otherwise known as the "Credo")

"Sanctus

Hosanna

Benedictus

Agnus Dei"

Bach did not give the work a title; instead, in the score the four parts of the Latin Mass are each given their own title page—"Kyrie", "Gloria", "Symbolum Nicenum" (otherwise known as the "Credo"), and "Sanctus, v, Benedictus, Agnus Dei"—and simply bundled together. Indeed, the different sections call for different numbers and arrangements of performers, giving rise to the theory that Bach did not ever expect the work to be performed in its entirety. On the other hand, the parts in the manuscript are numbered from 1 to 4, and Bach's usual closing formula (S.D.G = Soli Deo Gloria) is only found at the end of the Dona Nobis Pacem. Because of its length—nearly two hours of music—it was never performed in its entirety as part of a church liturgy.

Although Bach was a committed Lutheran, it is uncertain whether he composed it for the Lutheran liturgy or composed it for the Elector of Saxony who had just been elected king of Poland and therefore had to convert to Catholicism. Bach produced four short masses (comprising these two sections only) for liturgical use.

Early in 1733 Augustus II, King of Poland and Elector of Saxony, died. Five months of mourning followed, during which all public music-making was temporarily suspended. Bach used the opportunity to work on the composition of a Missa, a portion of the liturgy sung in Latin and common to both the Lutheran and Roman Catholic rites.

His aim was to dedicate the work to the new sovereign Augustus III, a Catholic, and by doing so to hope to improve his own standing. On its completion, Bach visited Augustus and presented him with a copy of the Missa, together with a petition to be given a court title. The petition did not meet with immediate success, but Bach did eventually get his title: he was made court composer to Augustus in 1736.

The Missa was first performed in 1733 during the festival of the Oath of Allegiance to Augustus III. It consisted of settings of the Kyrie and Gloria that now comprise the first part of the Mass in B Minor.

At what point Bach decided to expand the Missa into a full-blown setting of the Catholic Mass is not known. Some researchers believe that the Symbolum Nicenum (or the Credo) was composed between 1742 and 1745, but others think it predates the Missa and was first heard in 1732. The remaining parts (Sanctus, Osanna, Benedictus and Agnus Dei et Dona nobis pacem) were all added in the late 1740s. [1]

Wolfgang Osthoff and other scholars have suggested that Bach assembled the Missa Tota for performance at the dedication of the new Hofkirche in Dresden, which was begun in 1738 and was nearing completion by the late 1740s. However, the building was not completed until 1751, and Bach's death prevented his Mass from being submitted for use at the dedication. Instead, Johann Adolph Hasse's Mass in D minor was performed, a work with many similarities to Bach's Mass (the Credo movements in both works feature chant over a walking bass line, for example.)
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22.19 - Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion - Johannes Kepler - Scientific Discovery

1. The orbit of every planet is an ellipse with the sun at a focus.

2. A line joining a planet and the sun sweeps out equal areas during equal intervals of time.

3. The square of the orbital period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit.

These three mathematical laws were discovered by German mathematician and astronomer Johannes Kepler (1571–1630), and used by him to describe the motion of planets in the Solar System. They describe the motion of any two bodies orbiting each other.

Kepler worked from the observations of Tycho Brahe, which he published as the Rudolphine tables. Around 1605, Kepler found that Brahe's observations of the planets' positions followed these relatively simple mathematical laws.

Kepler's laws challenged Aristotelean and Ptolemaic astronomy and physics. His assertion that the Earth moved, his use of ellipses rather than epicycles, and his proof that the planets' speeds varied, changed astronomy and physics. Almost a century later Isaac Newton was able to deduce Kepler's laws from Newton's own laws of motion and his law of universal gravitation, using classical Euclidean geometry.

In modern times, Kepler's laws are used to calculate approximate orbits for artificial satellites, and bodies orbiting the Sun of which Kepler was unaware (such as the outer planets and smaller asteroids). They apply where any relatively small body is orbiting a larger, relatively massive body, though the effects of atmospheric drag (e.g. in a low orbit), relativity (e.g. Perihelion precession of Mercury), and other nearby bodies can make the results insufficiently accurate for a specific purpose.
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22.19 - Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion - Johannes Kepler - Scientific Discovery

1. The orbit of every planet is an ellipse with the sun at a focus.

2. A line joining a planet and the sun sweeps out equal areas during equal intervals of time.

3. The square of the orbital period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit.

These three mathematical laws were discovered by German mathematician and astronomer Johannes Kepler (1571–1630), and used by him to describe the motion of planets in the Solar System. They describe the motion of any two bodies orbiting each other.

Kepler worked from the observations of Tycho Brahe, which he published as the Rudolphine tables. Around 1605, Kepler found that Brahe's observations of the planets' positions followed these relatively simple mathematical laws.

Kepler's laws challenged Aristotelean and Ptolemaic astronomy and physics. His assertion that the Earth moved, his use of ellipses rather than epicycles, and his proof that the planets' speeds varied, changed astronomy and physics. Almost a century later Isaac Newton was able to deduce Kepler's laws from Newton's own laws of motion and his law of universal gravitation, using classical Euclidean geometry.

In modern times, Kepler's laws are used to calculate approximate orbits for artificial satellites, and bodies orbiting the Sun of which Kepler was unaware (such as the outer planets and smaller asteroids). They apply where any relatively small body is orbiting a larger, relatively massive body, though the effects of atmospheric drag (e.g. in a low orbit), relativity (e.g. Perihelion precession of Mercury), and other nearby bodies can make the results insufficiently accurate for a specific purpose.
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