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Official Great Works Draft (6 Viewers)

Okay, I checked with Tim on this and he said it was okay. If anyone objects, get your objections in and let it roll to the panel (or, Doug and/or Krista can weigh in immediately and put this to bed)

15.12 - The Super Bowl (all of them) - TV Show

Clearly I'm willing to sacrifice the Philly vote with this selection.
OK by me.
I just do not see this being allowed.An athletic contest is Athletic drama - a TV show is something that is planned, put together with care, and produced.

A show is SCRIPTED

For Tim to say he thinks thi scould be #1 just astounds me - especially given the lack of drama associated with many of the games.

Can we draft The Oscars, Grammys, World Series, Republican and Demo National Conventions, Election night returns, etc???????

I say this should be a low scoring Wild Card at best

 
Seems we're going to be waiting again for thatguy probably until 11 a.m. Eastern. I will be gone until mid-to-late afternoon tomorrow, so have sent my pick(s) to Fennis.

Please make sure to take Fennis off auto-skip (he is back now and requested to be taken off), and if pick 16.20 comes up send the PM to him.
:lmao: Turn Fennis off of autoskip

 
Okay, I checked with Tim on this and he said it was okay. If anyone objects, get your objections in and let it roll to the panel (or, Doug and/or Krista can weigh in immediately and put this to bed)

15.12 - The Super Bowl (all of them) - TV Show

Clearly I'm willing to sacrifice the Philly vote with this selection.
OK by me.
I just do not see this being allowed.An athletic contest is Athletic drama - a TV show is something that is planned, put together with care, and produced.

A show is SCRIPTED

For Tim to say he thinks thi scould be #1 just astounds me - especially given the lack of drama associated with many of the games.

Can we draft The Oscars, Grammys, World Series, Republican and Demo National Conventions, Election night returns, etc???????

I say this should be a low scoring Wild Card at best
The SB broadcast is far more than just the game. It's fanfare for usually the biggest ad campaigns, a blockbuster halftime show, near universal dominance in it's time slot. It's also very, very carefully planned, put together with extreme care and exceptionally produced. I've worked at one before and I've never seen more producers and planning, even at the DNC. It's not a narrative show, but it's most definitely something that transcends the actual game into something completely, well, TV. It seems that most of the nay sayers on it are looking at the game itself mainly rather than the whole thing as a televised event.
 
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Some good picks today - I cannot believe we did not yet get to my 16.13 pick. Anyone available for a PM to pick for me tomorrow?

The Rembrandt call was excellent, and I am disappointed that "The Road not Taken" was not available to me later. One of my favorites, without doubt.

I wanted American Gothic, but knew Yankee would probbaly grab it before I was willing to - and I knew he was targeting Sleepy Hollow as well.

I believe it had to be Brom Bones :P ;)

 
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MisfitBlondes said:
Okay, I checked with Tim on this and he said it was okay. If anyone objects, get your objections in and let it roll to the panel (or, Doug and/or Krista can weigh in immediately and put this to bed)

15.12 - The Super Bowl (all of them) - TV Show

Clearly I'm willing to sacrifice the Philly vote with this selection.
OK by me.
I just do not see this being allowed.An athletic contest is Athletic drama - a TV show is something that is planned, put together with care, and produced.

A show is SCRIPTED

For Tim to say he thinks thi scould be #1 just astounds me - especially given the lack of drama associated with many of the games.

Can we draft The Oscars, Grammys, World Series, Republican and Demo National Conventions, Election night returns, etc???????

I say this should be a low scoring Wild Card at best
After reading this point, I agree. The Super Bowl in itself is a Sports Broadcast and not an actual TV show.
I go back and forth, but the rules say:
Television show (2) All genres welcome.
A sports broadcast is one genre of TV show IMO.
 
Mister CIA said:
Google Site: when viewing the site you can only sort by one column at a time, but for the default view, I can set it up to sort by column 1, then 2, etc. ... So, I changed it to sort by category, then team, then pick.

Like or dislike?

I like it it because I can readily see how many each team has in a given category. I'll gladly change it back if this is not popular. ... you can get back to the original format with one click by sorting on the Selection field.

Everything is sorted in ascending order, so the trailing blanks of the list show up at the top. I can reverse the sort, but it seems a little less intuitive.
I almost always sort by category, but I dont mind clicking on what I need. I'm just glad you guys posted the site, it is really helpful.
 
Yankee23Fan said:
For my selection of 15.20 I am going to grab one of my upper tier top paintings before it gets snagged. I figured it would go in the top 10 rounds so I'm glad it fell here.

Though I'm not much of an art lover and therefore cannot absolutely support the following statement, it appears that many in the artworld do agree, and so I select this painting, not just for theme continuity, but because it is one of the few paintings to reach the status of cultural icon, along with Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa and Edvard Munch's The Scream. It is thus one of the most reproduced — and parodied — images ever. Many artists have replaced the two people with other known couples and replaced the house with well known houses. References and parodies of the image have been numerous for generations, appearing regularly in such media as postcards, magazines, animated cartoons, advertisements, comic books, and television shows.

I select, American Gothic
good stuff here yankee.
 
I don't really like the Super Bowl pick. It's weird, but I think Monday Night Football would've been okay with me. That doesn't make any sense, does it?

 
MisfitBlondes said:
I don't really like the Super Bowl pick. It's weird, but I think Monday Night Football would've been okay with me. That doesn't make any sense, does it?
Actually, this makes me rethink the Super Bowl pick yet again. The whole different networks, different types of show is not sitting well with me.
FWIW, I think the SB pick qualifies as a TV show... :twocents:
 
MisfitBlondes said:
MisfitBlondes said:
I don't really like the Super Bowl pick. It's weird, but I think Monday Night Football would've been okay with me. That doesn't make any sense, does it?
Actually, this makes me rethink the Super Bowl pick yet again. The whole different networks, different types of show is not sitting well with me.
FWIW, I think the SB pick qualifies as a TV show... :twocents:
If you agreed with me, that would be cool. As it stands, I liked you better when you weren't in this draft. :goodposting:
I seem to have made a mistake. What I meant to say was "I differ to whatever MisfitBlondes thinks and wants to do". :lmao:
 
I realize that many people consider The Sound and The Fury to be brilliant literature, but's also unreadable.
maybe you could handle the cliff notes version a little better.
I read it about 5 years ago on my own. My uncle, who's an English teacher, warned me about the first section, so I wasn't surprised. I actually had enjoyed some other works by this author (I won't spotlight) so I had rather high expectations. But that first 100 pages or so...Even so, there are a couple of passages from that book that has always stayed with me, and it is a classic. Just, for me, not an enjoyable read. I feel the same about Ulysses, but even more so.

 
Okay, I checked with Tim on this and he said it was okay. If anyone objects, get your objections in and let it roll to the panel (or, Doug and/or Krista can weigh in immediately and put this to bed)

15.12 - The Super Bowl (all of them) - TV Show

Clearly I'm willing to sacrifice the Philly vote with this selection.
OK by me.
I just do not see this being allowed.An athletic contest is Athletic drama - a TV show is something that is planned, put together with care, and produced.

A show is SCRIPTED

For Tim to say he thinks this could be #1 just astounds me - especially given the lack of drama associated with many of the games.

Can we draft The Oscars, Grammys, World Series, Republican and Demo National Conventions, Election night returns, etc???????

I say this should be a low scoring Wild Card at best
The SB broadcast is far more than just the game. It's fanfare for usually the biggest ad campaigns, a blockbuster halftime show, near universal dominance in it's time slot. It's also very, very carefully planned, put together with extreme care and exceptionally produced. I've worked at one before and I've never seen more producers and planning, even at the DNC. It's not a narrative show, but it's most definitely something that transcends the actual game into something completely, well, TV. It seems that most of the nay sayers on it are looking at the game itself mainly rather than the whole thing as a televised event.
The fact that the ancillary spectacle surrounding it is held in higher regard than the actual sporting event doesn't really make a good case for the Super Bowl, as I see it. I fully appreciate how much work and planning goes into each SB broadcast, but it's all essentially window dressing, and all of the event's immediacy is lost upon subsequent viewings. It's a disposable cultural phenomenon that becomes obsolete in the span of days, year after year. Beautifully planned bombast. You can call it a microcosm of the television-watching experience, but is that really a great work?The game itself is still interesting year after year, but I don't see how it's enough to merit a high ranking.

 
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It's an event broadcast, and the defining feature is the sporting event it revolves around.

The halftime shows have gotten better over the last decade, but go back and look at the first 35 or so - horrible B listers, has beens or never should haves. Now think about the 3/4/5 hour pregame shows that have been put on - if you have watched even one, you wanted to stick pins in your eyeballs, and likely vowed to NEVER make that mistake again.

In the running for #1, timschochet? Have you ever seen that Weekend Update segment on SNL called Amy and Seth's REALLY??!!

Your statement qualifies.

 
The reason I would rank the Superbowl so highly is not because of the quality of the program but it's influence on American society. Television has the power to create events, and this is the greatest example. It is the unofficial American holiday, in some ways much more vital than many of our "official" holidays.

And it's the television show, not the sporting event, which is so significant here. Television is the main reason why football surpassed baseball as America's greatest pasttime. Baseball is less a visual sport, and was perfect for the golden age of radio. Football is visual.

But the Superbowl, that's something else again. People gather to watch it, many of whom have not seen one moment of NFL football from the past season. There is no equivalent to this phenomenon that I know of.

 
Okay, I checked with Tim on this and he said it was okay. If anyone objects, get your objections in and let it roll to the panel (or, Doug and/or Krista can weigh in immediately and put this to bed)

15.12 - The Super Bowl (all of them) - TV Show

Clearly I'm willing to sacrifice the Philly vote with this selection.
OK by me.
I just do not see this being allowed.An athletic contest is Athletic drama - a TV show is something that is planned, put together with care, and produced.

A show is SCRIPTED

For Tim to say he thinks this could be #1 just astounds me - especially given the lack of drama associated with many of the games.

Can we draft The Oscars, Grammys, World Series, Republican and Demo National Conventions, Election night returns, etc???????

I say this should be a low scoring Wild Card at best
The SB broadcast is far more than just the game. It's fanfare for usually the biggest ad campaigns, a blockbuster halftime show, near universal dominance in it's time slot. It's also very, very carefully planned, put together with extreme care and exceptionally produced. I've worked at one before and I've never seen more producers and planning, even at the DNC. It's not a narrative show, but it's most definitely something that transcends the actual game into something completely, well, TV. It seems that most of the nay sayers on it are looking at the game itself mainly rather than the whole thing as a televised event.
The fact that the ancillary spectacle surrounding it is held in higher regard than the actual sporting event doesn't really make a good case for the Super Bowl, as I see it. I fully appreciate how much work and planning goes into each SB broadcast, but it's all essentially window dressing, and all of the event's immediacy is lost upon subsequent viewings. It's a disposable cultural phenomenon that becomes obsolete in the span of days, year after year. Beautifully planned bombast. You can call it a microcosm of the television-watching experience, but is that really a great work?The game itself is still interesting year after year, but I don't see how it's enough to merit a high ranking.
I think people are looking at it too narrowly. The window dressing is part of the show.
 
It's a disposable cultural phenomenon that becomes obsolete in the span of days, year after year.
But as you yourself pointed out, doesn't this define all of television? This in itself does not make it poor art. Andy Warhol and others understood this, didn't they?
 
The reason I would rank the Superbowl so highly is not because of the quality of the program but it's influence on American society. Television has the power to create events, and this is the greatest example. It is the unofficial American holiday, in some ways much more vital than many of our "official" holidays.

And it's the television show, not the sporting event, which is so significant here. Television is the main reason why football surpassed baseball as America's greatest pasttime. Baseball is less a visual sport, and was perfect for the golden age of radio. Football is visual.

But the Superbowl, that's something else again. People gather to watch it, many of whom have not seen one moment of NFL football from the past season. There is no equivalent to this phenomenon that I know of.
No one - and I mean NO ONE - has even hinted they are ready to debate the cultural or societal influence and impact of the SB event.The question remains: Why is this a great work?

Official Great Works Draft, A 60-round discussion of the greatest human achievements in history
Really??!!
 
MisfitBlondes said:
Anyone willing to take a PM for a pick in the AM?
I'll be around all day. I can take it. :goodposting:
wikkidpissah just sent me his...but I won't be around. You want to take mine as well? Then you can Hipple™ three picks in a row. :loco:
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MisfitBlondes said:
I'll be around all day. I can take it. :goodposting:
wikkidpissah just sent me his...but I won't be around. You want to take mine as well? Then you can Hipple™ three picks in a row. :loco:
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MfB took it, but thanks.After thatguy picks or times out, he will post 16.12, 16.13 and 16.14.

 
MisfitBlondes said:
I'll be around all day. I can take it. :goodposting:
wikkidpissah just sent me his...but I won't be around. You want to take mine as well? Then you can Hipple™ three picks in a row. :loco:
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I dunno when I'll be leaving in the morning...
I'll get on around 6 am Pacific for about 30 minutes and then won't be on again until 8:30 Pacific.If you think your pick won't come until after 8:30 Pacific, shoot it my way . . .

 
Sorry to keep you all waiting.



Basilica of St Denis - Structure/Building



The Cathedral Basilica of St Denis (French: Cathédrale royale de Saint-Denis, or simply Basilique Saint-Denis, previously the Abbaye de Saint-Denis) is a large abbey church in the commune of Saint-Denis, now a northern suburb of Paris. The abbey church was created a cathedral in 1966 and is the seat of the Bishop of Saint-Denis, Pascal Michel Ghislain Delannoy. The building is of unique importance historically and architecturally.

Founded in the 7th century by Dagobert I on the burial place of Saint Denis, a patron saint of France, the church became a place of pilgrimage and the burial place of the French Kings, nearly every king from the 10th to the 18th centuries being buried there, as well as many from the previous centuries. (It was not used for the coronations of kings, this role being designated to the Cathedral of Reims; however, queens were commonly crowned there.) "Saint-Denis" soon became the abbey church of a growing monastic complex. In the 12th century the Abbot Suger rebuilt portions of the abbey church using innovative structural and decorative features that were drawn from a number of other sources. In doing so, he is said to have created the first truly Gothic building.[1] The basilica is also the prototype for the Rayonnant Gothic style, and provided an architectural model for cathedrals and abbeys of northern France, England and other countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StDenis_Fassade.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StDenis_Chorumgang.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St_Denis_North_a.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St_denis_nave.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Basiliqu...nt-Denis_01.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St_Denis_Choir_Glass.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SaintDenisInterior.jpg

The church would have "the most radiant windows" to "illuminate men's minds so that they may travel through apprehension of God's light."

--Suger, Abbot of Saint-Denis

The Abbot Suger of Saint-Denis wanted to create a church that would be even greater than the famous Hagia Sophia Church in Constantinople. The church he commissioned, Basilique Saint-Denis, became a model for most of the late 12th-century French cathedrals, including those at Chartres and Senlis. The facade is primarily Romanesque, but many details in the church move away from the low Romanesque style. The Church of Saint-Denis was the first large building to use the new vertical style known as Gothic.

 
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Love the indoor plumbing pick. Someone suggested it to me a few days ago when I asked for advisers and I kept putting it off.

 
I realize that many people consider The Sound and The Fury to be brilliant literature, but's also unreadable.
:( :lmao: :lmao:
6-2-1910

When the shadow of the sash appeared on the curtain it was between seven and eight o'clock and then I was in time again, hearing the watch. It was Grandfather's and when Father gave it to me he said Quentin, I give you the mausoleum of all hope and desire; it's rather excruciatingly apt that you will use it to gain the reducto absurdum of all human experience which can fit your individual needs no greater than it fit his or his father's. I give it to you not that you may remember time but that you might forget it now and then for a moment and not spend all your breath trying to conquer it. Because no battle is ever won he said. They are not even fought. The field only reveals to man his own folly and despair and victory is an illusion of philosophers and fools.
That's just a piece of "unreadable" prose for ya Tim, typed from memory, only 15 minutes after I've woken up with only 3 sips of coffee in me, after a night where I needed to take 2 valium to sleep because of my own creative angst had my mind firing off like a nuclear reactor.The whole point of this isn't to show you how "smart" I am. I don't consider myself all that smart (at least no greater than 90% of the people in this thread - wait...Larry is out of this draft right? Ok, no greater than 100% of the people in this draft). However, in this instance I am the greater man because I didn't shrug and whine and say "unreadable!" Instead I spent the time needed to understand something both beautiful and incredibly evocative of the human condition - thereby understanding myself a little better. It wasn't simple. The first time I read it I had to be in a quiet place and I had to really think about what Faulkner was saying. But after I crossed the bridge to him, I was a better person for it. The same goes with Pynchon, Delillo, Melville, Deleuze and Guattari, Plato, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and many others.

I will never understand your resistance to anything "different" or "difficult" except as intellectual xenophobia (at worst) or laziness (at best).

No offense, bro.

EDIT: also AWESOME PICK! :(

Consider this just revenge for me picking on your Heavy Metal silliness, Misfits. S & F is my favorite novel.

 
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16.14 The Monkey's Paw - Short Story - W. W. Jacobs

Be Careful what you wish for..........................

The Monkey's Paw

"Be careful what you wish for, you may receive it." -- Anonymous

Part I

Without, the night was cold and wet, but in the small parlour of Laburnum villa the blinds were drawn and the fire burned brightly. Father and son were at chess; the former, who posessed ideas about the game involving radical chances, putting his king into such sharp and unnecessary perils that it even provoked comment from the white-haired old lady knitting placidly by the fire.

"Hark at the wind," said Mr. White, who, having seen a fatal mistake after it was too late, was amiably desirous of preventing his son from seeing it.

"I'm listening," said the latter grimly surveying the board as he streched out his hand. "Check."

"I should hardly think that he's come tonight, " said his father, with his hand poised over the board.

"Mate," replied the son.

"That's the worst of living so far out," balled Mr. White with sudden and unlooked-for violence; "Of all the beastly, slushy, out of the way places to live in, this is the worst. Path's a bog, and the road's a torrent. I don't know what people are thinking about. I suppose because only two houses in the road are let, they think it doesn't matter."

"Never mind, dear," said his wife soothingly; "perhaps you'll win the next one."

Mr. White looked up sharply, just in time to intercept a knowing glance between mother and son. the words died away on his lips, and he hid a guilty grin in his thin grey beard.

"There he is," said Herbert White as the gate banged to loudly and heavy footsteps came toward the door.

The old man rose with hospitable haste and opening the door, was heard condoling with the new arrival. The new arrival also condoled with himself, so that Mrs. White said, "Tut, tut!" and coughed gently as her husband entered the room followed by a tall, burly man, beady of eye and rubicund of visage.

"Sargeant-Major Morris, " he said, introducing him.

The Sargeant-Major took hands and taking the proffered seat by the fire, watched contentedly as his host got out whiskey and tumblers and stood a small copper kettle on the fire.

At the third glass his eyes got brighter, and he began to talk, the little family circle regarding with eager interest this visitor from distant parts, as he squared his broad shoulders in the chair and spoke of wild scenes and dougty deeds; of wars and plagues and strange peoples.

"Twenty-one years of it," said Mr. White, nodding at his wife and son. "When he went away he was a slip of a youth in the warehouse. Now look at him."

"He don't look to have taken much harm." said Mrs. White politely.

"I'd like to go to India myself," said the old man, just to look around a bit, you know."

"Better where you are," said the Sargent-Major, shaking his head. He put down the empty glass and sighning softly, shook it again.

"I should like to see those old temples and fakirs and jugglers," said the old man. "what was that that you started telling me the other day about a monkey's paw or something, Morris?"

"Nothing." said the soldier hastily. "Leastways, nothing worth hearing."

"Monkey's paw?" said Mrs. White curiously.

"Well, it's just a bit of what you might call magic, perhaps." said the Sargeant-Major off-handedly.
Link to Full Story
 
Me? TToW confusef me....think he is 16.13 & i'm 16.14 (typing bsby in hsnd here)

OK>>>>>flysack, love ur sugfgestions (f the typos ) but going somewhere else 4 a top pick which is near & dear (& the writeup is done)...pleaese take 1 or both of your PM suggeastyions w/ the nwxct 2 picks in rnds 17 & 18

 
So.... let's get this party started. All you guys fighting for second need to get on the ball, step up, and all the other cliches I can't think of right now..... Ok?!? Break!

 
I will never understand your resistance to anything "different" or "difficult" except as intellectual xenophobia (at worst) or laziness (at best).
Oh, I admit to being lazy. I don't admit to being intellectually xenophobic; consider it a healthy skepticism which I think you lack sometimes based on your evaluations in the previous draft. But to each their own. That passage you quoted is wonderful writing, but it's barred to most readers by that first section of the book which is unreadable, much like a moat which surrounds a castle. There are so many other examples of great literature which is more accessible to the reader that it's simply not worth it to me to cross that moat more than once. I did it, but I don't recommend it for others.
 
This is a monster team

Non fiction (1) The New Testament

Non fiction (2) Democracy in America

Non fiction (3) The Federalist Papers

Non fiction (4) Common Sense

Non fiction (5) Founding Brothers

It will be hard to match this non-fiction titanic offering. As a group they have to be upper upper top 3 tier. Individually, The New Testament is definately top 3, Democracy in America and the Federalist Papers should be well up there, Common Sense may get a hit but it was a very very important work, and Founding Brothers probably won't rank that high, but I had to have it.

Short Story - The Legend of Sleepy Hollow

Solid solid choice here. I'm sure there are more world renowned selections so I don't know where it will fall but it should be closer to the top then the bottom.

Poem (1) The New Colossus

I'm guessing this doesn't rank very well in the category so I don't expect a huge score here. But it's probably one of the most known poems selected.

Invention (1) - Baseball

Invention (2) - American Football

I'm guessing the judge will have a hard time ranking these above more scientific choices which is ok. Still, I know most of you are jealous that you don't have them.

Painting (1) American Gothic

Another one that I don't know where it will fall in the overall ranking but I'm guessing it should be higher then it will end up.

Sculpture - Statue of Liberty

The #1 in the category. Full arms have to count for something, no?

Building/Structure (1) The Great Wall of China

Building/Structure (2) The World Trade Center Twin Towers

The Great Wall is going to stand out in the theme here, but Americans love their Chinese food, and given the amount of Chinatown's we have, I'm ok with it. The World Trade Center was probably taken too early, and won't score very well against the wonders of the world structures.

Song (1) - God Bless America

This is going to depend on the judge. IT's obviously far far different then Bohemian Rhapsody, so I have no idea where it will rank.

Political Document - The Bill of Rights

The only pick I have in the categories I judge so I won't specifically rank or call attention to the selection. As an American document its top 5. As a world document, it will be interesting to see what else is taken.

Wildcard (1) 1969 Woodstock Festival

It appears that this is my worst pick by comments made. It was one of the things I was gunning for when I decided on my theme, so I went with it. Obviously, I could have taken it much much later so that hurts. The judging will probably end up with this in the lower half of choices, which is fine.

Very happy with the team overall though. A few missing pieces that were snagged by others that confounds and annoys, but still. Obviously, If anyone wants to trade, say, the Constitution for the Great Wall straight up, I'm good with that.

 
Very happy with the team overall though. A few missing pieces that were snagged by others that confounds and annoys, but still. Obviously, If anyone wants to trade, say, the Constitution for the Great Wall straight up, I'm good with that.
My offer of the Gettysburg Address for the Great Wall still stands..... :yes:
 
Sorry for the delay, running solo with the baby today as the ladies are out shopping.

(taking a risk here that Flysack's pick won't get back to us, but odds are greater this one gets sniped)

I'd like to dedicate this next pick to thatguy, who inspired it, and my baby daughter, who epitomized it this morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejtR81RzCo

That opening riff has been called "five notes that shook the world".

I can't get no satisfaction,

I can't get no satisfaction.

'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.

I can't get no, I can't get no.

When I'm drivin' in my car

and a man comes on the radio

he's tellin' me more and more

about some useless information

supposed to fire my imagination.

I can't get no, oh no no no.

Hey hey hey, that's what I say.

I can't get no satisfaction,

I can't get no satisfaction.

'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.

I can't get no, I can't get no.

When I'm watchin' my TV

and a man comes on to tell me

how white my shirts can be.

Well he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke

the same cigarrettes as me.

I can't get no, oh no no no.

Hey hey hey, that's what I say.

I can't get no satisfaction,

I can't get no girl reaction.

'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.

I can't get no, I can't get no.

When I'm ridin' round the world

and I'm doin' this and I'm signing that

and I'm tryin' to make some girl

who tells me baby better come back later next week

'cause you see I'm on losing streak.

I can't get no, oh no no no.

Hey hey hey, that's what I say.

I can't get no, I can't get no,

I can't get no satisfaction,

no satisfaction, no satisfaction, no satisfaction.

16.14 (314th pick) - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - Song

The Rolling Stones

"(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" is a song by English rock band The Rolling Stones released in 1965. It was written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards and produced by Andrew Loog Oldham. The lyrics of the song include references to sexual intercourse, and the theme of anti-commercialism caused the song to be "perceived as an attack on the status quo".

The song was first released as a single in the United States in June 1965 and also featured on the American version of Out of Our Heads, released that July. "Satisfaction" was a hit, giving the Stones their first number one in the United States. In Europe, the song initially played only on pirate radio stations because its lyrics were considered too sexually suggestive. In Britain the single was released in August 1965, where it became the Rolling Stones' fourth UK number one. The song is considered to be one of the all-time great rock songs. In 2004 Rolling Stone magazine placed "Satisfaction" in the second spot on its list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time, while in 2006 it was added to the Library of Congress National Recording Registry.

Inspiration

Keith Richards states that he came up with the guitar riff for the song in his sleep, waking up in the middle of the night, recording the riff and the words "I can't get no satisfaction" on a cassette recorder and promptly falling back to sleep. He would later describe the tape as: "two minutes of 'Satisfaction' and 40 minutes of me snoring." He and Jagger finished writing the song at the Jack Tar Harrison Hotel in Clearwater, Florida, in May 1965. Jagger wrote most of the lyrics - a statement about the rampant commercialism that the Rolling Stones had seen in America.

Recording

The Rolling Stones first recorded the track on 10 May 1965 at Chess Studios in Chicago - a version featuring Brian Jones on harmonica. The group minus Brian Jones re-recorded it two days later at RCA Studios in Hollywood, with a different beat and the Gibson Maestro fuzzbox adding sustain to the sound of the guitar riff. Richards envisioned redoing the track later with a horn section playing the riff: "this was just a little sketch, because, to my mind, the fuzz tone was really there to denote what the horns would be doing." The other Rolling Stones, as well as manager Andrew Loog Oldham and sound engineer Dave Hassinger eventually outvoted Richards and the track was selected for release as a single. The song's success so boosted sales of the Gibson fuzzbox that the entire available stock sold out by the end of 1965.

Like most of the Stones' pre-1966 recordings, "Satisfaction" was originally released in mono only. In the mid-1980s, a true stereo version of the song was released on German and Japanese editions of the CD reissue of Hot Rocks 1964-1971. The stereo mix features a piano (played by session player Jack Nitzsche) and acoustic guitar that are barely audible in the original mono release (both instruments are also audible on a bootleg recording of the instrumental track). This stereo mix of "Satisfaction" also appeared on a radio-promo CD of rare stereo tracks provided to US radio stations in the mid-1980s, but has not yet been featured on a worldwide commercial CD; even the currently-available German and Japanese Hot Rocks CDs feature the mono mix, making the earlier releases with the stereo mix collectors' items.

Release and success

"Satisfaction" was released as a single in the US by London Records on 27 May 1965, with "The Under-Assistant West Coast Promotion Man" as its B-side. The single made its way through the American charts, reaching the top on 10 July. "Satisfaction" held on for a full four weeks, being knocked off on 7 August. The song entered the Billboard Hot 100 charts in America in the week ending 12 June 1965, remaining there for 14 weeks; it was #1 for four straight weeks. While in its eighth week on the American charts, the single was certified a gold record award by the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) for selling more than a million copies in the United States, giving the band their first of many gold disc awards in America. Later the song was also released by London Records on Out of Our Heads in America. According to "Joel Whitburn Presents, Top R&B/Hip-Hop Singles: 1942-2004", the song also reached #19 on the Top Selling Rhythm and Blues Singles.

"Satisfaction" was not immediately released by Decca Records in Great Britain. Decca was already in the process of preparing a live Rolling Stones EP for release, so the new single only came out in Britain in late July, featuring "The Spider and the Fly" on the B-Side. The song peaked at number one for two weeks, replacing Sonny & Cher's "I Got You Babe", between 11 September and 25 September, before being toppled by The Walker Brothers' "Make It Easy on Yourself".

In the decades since its release, "Satisfaction" has repeatedly been acclaimed by the music industry. In 1976, Britain's New Musical Express listed "Satisfaction" 7th among the top 100 singles of all time. There was a resurgence of interest in the song after it was prominently featured in a 1979 movie. In 1991, Vox listed "Satisfaction" among "100 records that shook the world". In 1999, BMI named "Satisfaction" as the 91st-most performed song of the 20th century. In 2000, VH1 listed "Satisfaction" first among its "Top 100 Greatest Rock Songs"; the same year, "Satisfaction" also finished runner-up in a list jointly compiled by Rolling Stone and MTV. In 2003, Q placed the song 68th out of its "1001 Best Songs Ever". In 2004, Rolling Stone's panel of judges named "Satisfaction" as the second-greatest song of all time, coming in second to Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone".

Jagger has said of "Satisfaction": "It was the song that really made The Rolling Stones, changed us from just another band into a huge, monster band... It has a very catchy title. It has a very catchy guitar riff. It has a great guitar sound, which was original at that time. And it captures a spirit of the times, which is very important in those kinds of songs... Which was alienation." Richards claimed that the song's riff could be heard in half of the songs that The Rolling Stones had produced, saying that "there is only one song - it's just the variations you come up with." The song has become a staple at Rolling Stones shows. They have performed it on nearly every tour since its release, and concert renditions have been included on the albums Got Live if You Want It!, Still Life (American Concert 1981), Flashpoint, Live Licks and Shine a Light. One unusual rendition is included in Robert Frank's film ########## Blues from the 1972 tour, when the song was performed by both the Rolling Stones and Stevie Wonder's band as the second half of a medley with Wonder's "Uptight".

Lyrics and melody

The song opens with a guitar riff, launching straight into Jagger's vocal line: "I can't get no satisfaction". The title line is an example of a double negative resolving to a negative, a common usage in colloquial English. Jagger sings the verses in a tone hovering between cynical commentary and frustrated protest, and then leaps half singing and half yelling into the chorus, where the guitar riff reappears. The lyrics outline the singer's irritation with the increasing commercialism of the modern world, where the radio broadcasts "useless information" and a man on television tells him "how white my shirts can be - but he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as me." Jagger also describes the stress of being a celebrity, and the tensions of touring. The reference in the verse to not getting any "girl reaction" was fairly controversial in its day, interpreted by some listeners (and radio programmers) as meaning a girl willing to have sex. Particularly shocking to some people was a reference to a girl having her period (being "on a losing streak"). The song closes with a fairly subdued repetition of the song's title, followed suddenly by a full shout of the line, with the final words repeated into the fade-out. In its day the song was perceived as disturbing because of both its sexual connotations and the negative view of commercialism and other aspects of modern culture; critic Paul Gambaccini stated: "The lyrics to this were truly threatening to an older audience. This song was perceived as an attack on the status quo". When the Rolling Stones performed the song on Shindig! in 1965, the line "trying to make some girl" was censored. Forty years later, when the band performed three songs during the February 2006 Super Bowl XL halftime show, "Satisfaction" was the only one of the three songs not censored as it was broadcast.

Personnel

Mick Jagger - lead vocals, backing vocals

Keith Richards - electric and acoustic guitars, backing vocals

Charlie Watts - drums

Bill Wyman - bass guitar

Jack Nitzsche - piano, tambourine

 
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