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Dinner Time - Grilled Med Rare Herb crusted Lamb RIB Chops, finished with a Balsamic reduction, served in the center of the plate, and crossed over a grilled onion stuffed with garlic, mushrooms, and swiss cheese.Wilted Garlic Lettuce serves as the base at the bottom of the plate, and the entree centerpiece is encircled by roasted Yukon Gold Taters.Breathing already is a Bottle of Bethel Heights Casteel Reserve Pinot Noir :lmao:
I will never understand people that get this into their dinners. If I want that specifically prepared a dish, I'll pay someone else to cook and serve it to me. If I'm at home, it's mac and cheese and a beer. I'll add a couple diced up hot dogs if I want to get fancy.
 
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Back in round one I drafted Hamlet, and subsequently picked up a copy and began reading it (procrastination thus far has lead me to Act II, Scene II). Subconsciously, entertainment picks aside, I've more or less drafted my roster as a summer reading list - and will continue so ... Yep, picked up a copy of War and Peace too, which may explain why I'm march slowly with Hamlet; it's an intimidating looking book.

Anyway, continuing ....

17.12 - Ethics by Baruch Spinoza Non-fiction

I've heard of Spinoza, but what I know about his writing is superficial at best. While surfing and trying to decide what best to draft, I dipped my toes into the Spinoza waters and a quote from the Amazon editorial review reeled me in. "A powerful work of elegant simplicity, Ethics is a brilliantly insightful consideration of the possibility of redemption through intense thought and philosophical reflection." Reading further, I get a tingly feeling what lies ahead is something which articulates thoughts infinitely better than I ever could myself; thoughts which just won't leave me be. I expect it to richly contrast to Machiavelli's The Prince.

 
Dinner Time - Grilled Med Rare Herb crusted Lamb RIB Chops, finished with a Balsamic reduction, served in the center of the plate, and crossed over a grilled onion stuffed with garlic, mushrooms, and swiss cheese.Wilted Garlic Lettuce serves as the base at the bottom of the plate, and the entree centerpiece is encircled by roasted Yukon Gold Taters.Breathing already is a Bottle of Bethel Heights Casteel Reserve Pinot Noir :lmao:
I will never understand people that get this into their dinners. If I want that specifically prepared a dish, I'll pay someone else to cook and serve it to me. If I'm at home, it's mac and cheese and a beer. I'll add a couple diced up hot dogs if I want to get fancy.
I will never understand your resistance to anything "different" or "difficult" except as intellectual xenophobia (at worst) or laziness (at best).
 
Dinner Time - Grilled Med Rare Herb crusted Lamb RIB Chops, finished with a Balsamic reduction, served in the center of the plate, and crossed over a grilled onion stuffed with garlic, mushrooms, and swiss cheese.Wilted Garlic Lettuce serves as the base at the bottom of the plate, and the entree centerpiece is encircled by roasted Yukon Gold Taters.Breathing already is a Bottle of Bethel Heights Casteel Reserve Pinot Noir :mellow:
I will never understand people that get this into their dinners. If I want that specifically prepared a dish, I'll pay someone else to cook and serve it to me. If I'm at home, it's mac and cheese and a beer. I'll add a couple diced up hot dogs if I want to get fancy.
I will never understand your resistance to anything "different" or "difficult" except as intellectual xenophobia (at worst) or laziness (at best).
OH NO YOU DINT!@Yea, this isn't resistance to anything different or difficult. I said I'd enjoy such a dish - I just don't get why people get so geeked over it. To me a dish like that is best enjoyed with the ambiance of a professional chef and a cute waitress. Some people really get into making elaborate dishes at home, and further, seem to take a linguistic joy at rattling off all the ingredients.
 
Sesame Street Brief write-up

Really needs no introduction, as 77 million Americans watched show as a child, an even more phenomenal number when you subtract the millions already beyond childhood before the Street hit the streets in 1969 (hey, I was four then which must make me a plank owner). Also the show has won 109 Emmys (as of 2006). ... so says the great Wiki.

Crap! I usually find myself too busy to do a proper write-up, and now that I sit to do one I ask myself - how the bleep can I do a write-up on Sesame Street. Obviously far greater than the sum of its parts, it's when trying to describe Sesame Street do I realize just how many parts there are. Memorable Muppets in the dozens, enduring themes (one of these is not like the others), and just a warm fuzzy memory of what is probably the first cool thing I ever knew.

Darn near flawless.

Favorite Muppet: Cookie Monster (obvious pick)

Muppet I related to most: The Count

Favorite song: I'm a Little Airplane - can't find link to original -

 
Sesame Street Brief write-up

Really needs no introduction, as 77 million Americans watched show as a child, an even more phenomenal number when you subtract the millions already beyond childhood before the Street hit the streets in 1969 (hey, I was four then which must make me a plank owner). Also the show has won 109 Emmys (as of 2006). ... so says the great Wiki.

Crap! I usually find myself too busy to do a proper write-up, and now that I sit to do one I ask myself - how the bleep can I do a write-up on Sesame Street. Obviously far greater than the sum of its parts, it's when trying to describe Sesame Street do I realize just how many parts there are. Memorable Muppets in the dozens, enduring themes (one of these is not like the others), and just a warm fuzzy memory of what is probably the first cool thing I ever knew.

Darn near flawless.

Favorite Muppet: Cookie Monster (obvious pick)

Muppet I related to most: The Count

Favorite song: I'm a Little Airplane - can't find link to original -

Flawless, hell, everyone knows that there show supports the gays. If it weren't for the Demawits fooling all the good god-fearing folk into voting for a muslim anti-christ, we'd have cut this abomination's funding and ended its reign of evil over our children.

I mean, just look at this screen cap from their last episode!

 
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Yea, this isn't resistance to anything different or difficult. I said I'd enjoy such a dish - I just don't get why people get so geeked over it. To me a dish like that is best enjoyed with the ambiance of a professional chef and a cute waitress. Some people really get into making elaborate dishes at home, and further, seem to take a linguistic joy at rattling off all the ingredients.
Tonight, I'll be having 4-5 succulent, but not too succulent miniature breaded chicken filets, at lukewarm temperature. The filets are breaded in a indiscernable tapestry of the finest crumbed bread that a mid-level chain restaurant with a drive-thru can deliver. Stuffed into a styrofoam environmental disaster for easy transportation.A sixer is already chilling in the fridge.
 
Philip Hoffman was absolutely wonderful as Truman Capote. Just a superb acting job. One thing that struck me: in the recent past, gay characters on film have been presented as wonderful people (as a sort of "statement") or evil psychotics (The Silence of The Lambs) or as comic sidekicks. Capote presents one of the first gay characters on screen who is neither evil nor a great guy- he's a brilliant, egotistical jerk.

The Velvet Underground and Nico is one of my personal top 5 albums of all time. Flawless.

Two great choices.
Anybody else see that Hoffman/DeNiro dreck where DeNiro is a stroke victim getting voice therapy from Hoffman's drag queen character? Pretty similar approach to his role there, IMO. Not discounting that amazing Capote peformance at all... just remember it being similar. Blessed with not being good looking enough to play the hunky lead, Hoffman always gets some great charactery actors to work with, and is fantastic every time. Can anybody think of a bad performance by him?
I actually watched part of it today on cable and wondered if PSH was going to make the list as he's absurdly talented. I had forgotten about Capote though. I'd like to see him as a bad guy again. He was a great villain in MI3.
He plays a great PoS in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead.
 
Yea, this isn't resistance to anything different or difficult. I said I'd enjoy such a dish - I just don't get why people get so geeked over it. To me a dish like that is best enjoyed with the ambiance of a professional chef and a cute waitress. Some people really get into making elaborate dishes at home, and further, seem to take a linguistic joy at rattling off all the ingredients.
Tonight, I'll be having 4-5 succulent, but not too succulent miniature breaded chicken filets, at lukewarm temperature. The filets are breaded in a indiscernable tapestry of the finest crumbed bread that a mid-level chain restaurant with a drive-thru can deliver. Stuffed into a styrofoam environmental disaster for easy transportation.A sixer is already chilling in the fridge.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
17.14 - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols - Album

Link.

Tim, the Sex Pistols don't give a crap about being accessible or not being accessible. All they care about is telling the world (including you) to F!@K OFF. I respect that.

BTW - have you noticed who my avatar is?

I'll narrow it down for you: it's not Lou Reed. :lmao:

 
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Philip Hoffman was absolutely wonderful as Truman Capote. Just a superb acting job. One thing that struck me: in the recent past, gay characters on film have been presented as wonderful people (as a sort of "statement") or evil psychotics (The Silence of The Lambs) or as comic sidekicks. Capote presents one of the first gay characters on screen who is neither evil nor a great guy- he's a brilliant, egotistical jerk.

The Velvet Underground and Nico is one of my personal top 5 albums of all time. Flawless.

Two great choices.
Anybody else see that Hoffman/DeNiro dreck where DeNiro is a stroke victim getting voice therapy from Hoffman's drag queen character? Pretty similar approach to his role there, IMO. Not discounting that amazing Capote peformance at all... just remember it being similar. Blessed with not being good looking enough to play the hunky lead, Hoffman always gets some great charactery actors to work with, and is fantastic every time. Can anybody think of a bad performance by him?
I actually watched part of it today on cable and wondered if PSH was going to make the list as he's absurdly talented. I had forgotten about Capote though. I'd like to see him as a bad guy again. He was a great villain in MI3.
He plays a great PoS in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead.
And he nails Marisa Tomei! Have it on the Tivo but havent' watched it yet.
 
MisfitBlondes said:
17.14 - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols - Album

Link.

For years, I'd heard of the Sex Pistols, but never heard them. That's just the way it was for me in the late 70's/early 80's existing on album rock radio. I always assumed the worst too, because what few snippets of punk I'd heard were terrible, which was to be expected since not having talent was punk music's calling card. Then one day I heard God Save the Queen and all I could think was "####, these guys were pretty good" ... the first memory I have of feeling let down by radio (followed by 10,000 more as the 80s matured)
 
took a pot pie out the freezer @ 3pm and have been licking it regularly since. it's just soft enough now for me to bite into it til my teeth hurt. i have decanted a generic lemon/lime beverage to room temperature to rinse the frozen carrot fragments off my teeth. envy me, #####es....

 
17.14 - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols - Album

Link.

I've often said no band has ever milked a single album as well as a the Sex Pistols milked Never Mind the Bollocks.That entire album is awesome.

But they never did anything worth a crap after it. It's the only thing they ever did. And yet, they're a cultural icon, living legends even.

Such a weird, weird band.

 
MisfitBlondes said:
17.14 - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols - Album

Link.

I don’t know how to say this without spotlighting, I like the idea of what you picked, but you picked the wrong album from the wrong band. But not a bad pick.
 
17.14 - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols - Album

Link.

Favorite Sex Pistols moment: they're giving a BBC interview back in the day, and the interview asks, "You were given half a million pounds in advance for your tour, but reports are that you guys are out of money. What happened to that advance?" And Johnny snarls, "####### spent it, didn't we?"
 
I have no idea what to go with as far as VBD, and my brain is fried at the moment, so I'm just picking a short story that I love, probably way too early, but WTF:

17.15 - Short Story - The Nine Billion Names of God - Arthur C. Clarke

The story of two Western computer programmers going to a Tibetan lamasery to install computers that the monks need to transcribe the finite number of names for God. One of the best endings I can ever remember reading in any work of fiction.

It won the retrospective Hugo Award (science fiction/fantasy) for the best short story of 1954, in 2004.

Full Text:

The Nine Billion Names of God

By Arthur Clarke

"This is a slightly unusual request," said Dr. Wagner, with what he hoped was commendable restraint. "As far as I know, it’s the first time anyone’s been asked to supply a Tibetan monastery with an automatic sequence computer. I don’t wish to be inquisitive, but I should hardly thought that your --ah-- establishment had much use for such a machine. Could you explain just what you intend to do with it?"

"Gladly," replied the lama, readjusting his silk robe and carefully putting away the slide rule he had been using for currency conversions. "Your Mark V computer can carry out any routine mathematical operation involving up to ten digits. However, for our work we are interested in letters, not numbers. As we wish you to modify the output circuits, the machine will be printing words, not columns of figures."

"I don’t understand . . ."

"This is a project on which we have been working for the last three centuries -- since the lamasery was founded, in fact. It is somewhat alien to your way of thought, so I hope you will listen with an open mind while I explain it."

"Naturally."

"It is really quite simple. We have been compiling a list which shall contain all the possible names of God."

"I beg your pardon?"

"We have reason to believe," continued the lama imperturbably, "that all such names can be written with not more than nine letters in an alphabet we have devised."

"And you have been doing this for three centuries?"

"Yes. We expected it would take us about fifteen thousand years to complete the task."

"Oh." Dr. Wagner looked a little dazed. "Now I see why you wanted to hire one of our machines. But exactly what is the purpose of this project?"

The lama hesitated for a fraction of a second, and Wagner wondered if he had offended him. If so, there was no trace of annoyance in the reply.

"Call it ritual, if you like, but it’s a fundamental part of our belief. All the many names of the Supreme Being -- God, Jehovah, Allah, and so on -- they are only man-made labels. There is a philosophical problem of some difficulty here, which I do not propose to discuss, but somewhere among all the possible combinations of letters, which can occur, are what one may call the real names of God. By systematic permutation of letters, we have been trying to list them all."

"I see. You’ve been starting at AAAAAAAAA . . . and working up to ZZZZZZZZZ . . ."

"Exactly -- though we use a special alphabet of our own. Modifying the electromatic typewriters to deal with this is, of course, trivial. A rather more interesting problem is that of devising suitable circuits to eliminate ridiculous combinations. For example, no letter must occur more than three times in succession."

"Three? Surely you mean two."

"Three is correct. I am afraid it would take too long to explain why, even if you understood our language."

"I’m sure it would," said Wagner hastily. "Go on."

"Luckily it will be a simple matter to adapt your automatic sequence computer for this work, since once it has been programmed properly it will permute each letter in turn and print the result. What would have taken us fifteen thousand years it will be able to do in a thousand days."

Dr. Wagner was scarcely conscious of the faint sounds from the Manhattan streets far below. He was in a different world, a world of natural, not man-made, mountains. High up in their remote aeries these monks had been patiently at work, generation after generation, compiling their lists of meaningless words. Was there any limit to the follies of mankind? Still, he must give no hint of his inner thoughts. The customer was always right . . .

"There’s no doubt," replied the doctor, "that we can modify the Mark V to print lists of this nature. I’m much more worried about the problem of installation and maintenance. Getting out to Tibet, in these days, is not going to be easy."

"We can arrange that. The components are small enough to travel by air -- that is one reason why we chose your machine. If you can get them to India, we will provide transport from there."

"And you want to hire two of our engineers?"

"Yes, for the three months which the project should occupy."

"I’ve no doubt that Personnel can manage that." Dr. Wagner scribbled a note on his desk pad. "There are just two other points--"

Before he could finish the sentence, the lama had produced a small slip of paper.

"This is my certified credit balance at the Asiatic Bank."

"Thank you. It appears to be--ah--adequate. The second matter is so trivial that I hesitate to mention it -- but it’s surprising how often the obvious gets overlooked. What source of electrical energy have you?"

"A diesel generator providing 50 kilowatts at 110 volts. It was installed about five years ago and is quite reliable. It’s made life at the lamasery much more comfortable, but of course it was really installed to provide power for the motors driving the prayer wheels."

"Of course," echoed Dr. Wagner. "I should have thought of that."

The view from the parapet was vertiginous, but in time one gets used to anything. After three months George Hanley was not impressed by the two-thousand-foot swoop into the abyss or the remote checkerboard of fields in the valley below. He was leaning against the wind-smoothed stones and staring morosely at the distant mountains whose names he had never bothered to discover.

This, thought George, was the craziest thing that had ever happened to him. "Project Shangri-La," some wit at the labs had christened it. For weeks now, Mark V had been churning out acres of sheets covered with gibberish. Patiently, inexorably, the computer had been rearranging letters in all their possible combinations, exhausting each class before going on to the next. As the sheets had emerged from the electromatic typewriters, the monks had carefully cut them up and pasted them into enormous books. In another week, heaven be praised, they would have finished. Just what obscure calculations had convinced the monks that they needn’t bother to go on to words of ten, twenty, or a hundred letters, George didn’t know. One of his recurring nightmares was that there would be some change of plan and that the High Lama (whom they’d naturally called Sam Jaffe, though he didn’t look a bit like him) would suddenly announce that the project would be extended to approximately 2060 A.D. They were quite capable of it.

George heard the heavy wooden door slam in the wind as Chuck came out onto the parapet beside him. As usual, Chuck was smoking one of the cigars that made him so popular with the monks -- who, it seemed, were quite willing to embrace all the minor and most of the major pleasures of life. That was one thing in their favor: they might be crazy, but they weren’t bluenoses. Those frequent trips they took down to the village, for instance . . ." "Listen, George," said Chuck urgently. "I’ve learned something that means trouble."

"What’s wrong? Isn’t the machine behaving?" That was the worst contingency George could imagine. It might delay his return, than which nothing could be more horrible. The way he felt now, even the sight of a TV commercial would seem like manna from heaven. At least it would be some link from home.

"No -- it’s nothing like that." Chuck settled himself on the parapet, which was unusual, because normally he was scared of the drop.

"I’ve just found out what all this is about."

"What d’ya mean -- I thought we knew."

"Sure -- we know what the monks are trying to do. But we didn’t know why. It’s the craziest thing --"

"Tell me something new," growled George.

" . . . but old Sam’s just come clean with me. You know the way he drops in every afternoon to watch the sheets roll out. Well, this time he seemed rather excited, or at least as near as he’ll ever get to it. When I told him we were on the last cycle he asked me, in that cute English accent of his, if I’d ever wondered what they were trying to do. I said, ‘Sure’ -- and he told me."

"Go on, I’ll buy it."

"Well, they believe that when they have listed all His names -- and they reckon that there are about nine billion of them -- God’s purpose will have been achieved. The human race will have finished what it was created to do, and there won’t be any point in carrying on. Indeed, the very idea is something like blasphemy."

"Then what do they expect us to do? Commit suicide?"

"There’s no need for that. When the list’s completed, God steps in and simply winds things up . . . bingo!"

"Oh, I get it. When we finish our job, it will be the end of the world."

Chuck gave a nervous little laugh.

"That’s just what I said to Sam. And do you know what happened? He looked at me in a very queer way, like I’d been stupid in class, and said, ‘It’s nothing as trivial as that’."

George thought this over for a moment.

"That’s what I call taking the Wide View," he said presently.

"But what d’ya suppose we should do about it? I don’t see that it makes the slightest difference to us. After all, we already knew that they were crazy."

"Yes -- but don’t you see what may happen? When the list’s complete and the Last Trump doesn’t blow -- or whatever it is that they expect -- we may get the blame. It’s our machine they’ve been using. I don’t like the situation one little bit."

"I see," said George slowly. "You’ve got a point there. But this sort of thing’s happened here before, you know. When I was a kid down in Louisiana we had a crackpot preacher who said the world was going to end next Sunday. Hundreds of people believed him-- even sold their homes. Yet nothing happened; they didn’t turn nasty, as you’d expect. They just decided that he’d made a mistake in his calculations and went right on believing. I guess some of them still do."

"Well, this isn’t Louisiana, in case you hadn’t noticed. There are just two of us and hundreds of these monks. I like them, and I’ll be sorry for old Sam when his lifework backfires on him. But all the same, I wish I was somewhere else."

"I’ve been wishing that for weeks. But there’s nothing we can do until the contract’s finished and the transport arrives to fly us out."

"Of course," said Chuck thoughtfully, "we could always try a bit of sabotage."

"Like hell we could! That would make things worse."

"Not the way I meant. Look at it like this. The machine will finish its run four days from now, on the present twenty-hours-a-day basis. The transport calls in a week. O.K., then all we need to do is to find something that wants replacing during one of the overhaul periods -- something that will hold up the works for a couple of days. We’ll fix it, of course, but not too quickly. If we time matters properly, we can be down at the airfield when the last name pops out of the register. They won’t be able to catch us then."

"I don’t like it," said George. "It will be the first time I ever walked out on a job. Besides, it would make them suspicious. No, I’ll sit tight and take what comes."

"I still don’t like it," he said seven days later, as the tough little mountain ponies carried them down the winding road. "And don’t you think I’m running away because I’m afraid. I’m just sorry for those poor old guys up there, and I don’t want to be around when they find what suckers they’ve been. Wonder how Sam will take it?"

"It’s funny," replied Chuck, "but when I said goodbye I got the idea he knew we were walking out on him -- and that he didn’t care because he knew the machine was running smoothly and that the job would soon be finished. After that -- well, of course, for him there just isn’t any After That . . ."

George turned in his saddle and stared back up the mountain road. This was the last place from which one could get a clear view of the lamasery. The squat, angular buildings were silhouetted against the afterglow of the sunset; here and there lights gleamed like portholes in the sides of an ocean liner. Electric lights, of course, sharing the same circuit as the Mark V. How much longer would they share it? wondered George. Would the monks smash up the computer in their rage and disappointment? Or would they just sit down quietly and begin their calculations all over again?

He knew exactly what was happening up on the mountain at this very moment. The High Lama and his assistants would be sitting in their silk robes, inspecting the sheets as the junior monks carried them away from the typewriters and pasted them into the great volumes. No one would be saying anything. The only sound would be the incessant patter, the never-ending rainstorm, of the keys hitting the paper, for the Mark V itself was utterly silent as it flashed through its thousands of calculations a second. Three months of this, thought George, was enough to start anyone climbing up the wall.

"There she is!" called Chuck, pointing down into the valley. "Ain’t she beautiful!"

She certainly was, thought George. The battered old DC-3 lay at the end of the runway like a tiny silver cross. In two hours she would be bearing them away to freedom and sanity. It was a thought worth savoring like a fine liqueur. George let it roll around in his mind as the pony trudged patiently down the slope.

The swift night of the high Himalayas was now almost upon them. Fortunately the road was very good, as roads went in this region, and they were both carrying torches. There was not the slightest danger, only a certain discomfort from the bitter cold. The sky overhead was perfectly clear and ablaze with the familiar, friendly stars. At least there would be no risk, thought George, of the pilot being unable to take off because of weather conditions. That had been his only remaining worry.

He began to sing but gave it up after a while. This vast arena of mountains, gleaming like whitely hooded ghosts on every side, did not encourage such ebullience. Presently George glanced at his watch.

"Should be there in an hour," he called back over his shoulder to Chuck. Then he added, in an afterthought, "Wonder if the computer’s finished its run? It was due about now."

Chuck didn’t reply, so George swung round in his saddle. He could just see Chuck’s face, a white oval turned toward the sky.

"Look," whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven. (There is always a last time for everything.)

Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out.
 
Favorite Sex Pistols moment: they're giving a BBC interview back in the day, and the interview asks, "You were given half a million pounds in advance for your tour, but reports are that you guys are out of money. What happened to that advance?" And Johnny snarls, "####### spent it, didn't we?"
:banned:
 
I have no idea what to go with as far as VBD, and my brain is fried at the moment, so I'm just picking a short story that I love, probably way too early, but WTF:

17.15 - Short Story - The Nine Billion Names of God - Arthur C. Clarke

The story of two Western computer programmers going to a Tibetan lamasery to install computers that the monks need to transcribe the finite number of names for God. One of the best endings I can ever remember reading in any work of fiction.

It won the retrospective Hugo Award (science fiction/fantasy) for the best short story of 1954, in 2004.
I can honestly say that story did next to nothing for me. Very predictable and nothing overly impressive about the prose. Just a meh for me, but then it did win the Hugo Award, so what do I know.
 
In my opinion, the television program I am about to select makes a great argument for #1 in it's category, for two reasons:

First, because even more than the Superbowl, it is arguably the most influential television program ever, because it changed permanently American and world perceptions about African-Americans. It's hard to recall that before it's broadcast, the most vivid portrayal of slavery was that of a certain romantic film that won Best Picture in 1939, depicting Blacks as happy and secure in their surroundings. The truth about the Middle Passage, the capture of Slaves, whipping and mistreatments, selling members of families away from each other- none of this was exposed to the American public. Also, until this program, Blacks were rarely allowed to perform in any roles other than caricatures or comedies. It would take too long here to discuss how even a fine actor like Sidney Portier was forced into various stereotypes in the 1960's and early 1970's- all of this changed because of this television program. Afterwards, American culture was never the same, and how society viewed African-Americans was never the same.

The second reason is that the program was superlative. The script by Alex Haley was phenomenal, as was the directing. The actors were magnificent, especially Levar Burton, John Amos, Madge Sinclair, Chuck Connors, Ben Vereen, Lou Gossett, dozens of others, and for me most memorable of all Sandy Duncan in her finest role as the villainous Anne. Everything about this show was superb, including the music. It also set the standard for dozens of other programs that would follow.

16.17 Roots (Television Miniseries)
Tremendous pick, would get my vote for #1.
 
I think our pace is about 5 more picks per day than the last two Greatest drafts.

16.12 Wikkidpissah Movie Dr Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love the Bomb 16.13 Tides of War Short Story The Monkey's Paw W.W. Jacobs 16.14 BobbyLayne Song (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction The Rolling Stones 16.15 Abrantes Novel One Hundred Years of Solitude Gabriel Garcia Marquez 16.16 Doug B T.V. Show Fawlty Towers 16.17 Timschochet T.V. Show Roots 16.18 Postradamus Song Johnny B. Goode Chuck Berry 16.19 Rodg12 Acting Performance The Joker in The Dark Knight Heath Ledger 16.20 Krista4 Novel Lolita Vladimir Nabokov 17.01 Fennis Song Imagine John Lennon 17.02 Rodg Song Hey Jude The Beatles 17.03 Postradamus Movie The Wizard of Oz 17.04 Timschochet Documentary Crumb 17.05 Doug B Song Unchained Melody 17.06 Abrantes Song The House of the Rising Sun The Animals 17.07 BobbyLayne Poem The Nibelungenlied. 17.08 Tides of War T.V. Show 60 Minutes 17.09 Wikkidpissah Non-fiction Book Essay Concerning Human Understanding John Locke 17.10 Thatguy Acting Performance Truman Capote in Capote Phillip Seymour Hoffman 17.11 El Floppo Album The Velvet Underground and Nico The Velvet Underground 17.12 Team CIA Non-fiction Ethics Baruch Spinoza 17.13 Uncle Humana Composition The Messiah George Frideric Handel 17.14 Misfit Blondes Album Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols Sex Pistols 17.15 Bob Lee Swagger Short Story The Nine Billion Names of God Arthur C. Clarke
Sheesh...it would be nice if we could just have one or two weak picks. That's a sick list. I was going to bold/highlight the ones I loved but ended up with 75% - and the rest were pretty darn good.Awesome picks on this day.
 
In my opinion, the television program I am about to select makes a great argument for #1 in it's category, for two reasons:

First, because even more than the Superbowl, it is arguably the most influential television program ever, because it changed permanently American and world perceptions about African-Americans. It's hard to recall that before it's broadcast, the most vivid portrayal of slavery was that of a certain romantic film that won Best Picture in 1939, depicting Blacks as happy and secure in their surroundings. The truth about the Middle Passage, the capture of Slaves, whipping and mistreatments, selling members of families away from each other- none of this was exposed to the American public. Also, until this program, Blacks were rarely allowed to perform in any roles other than caricatures or comedies. It would take too long here to discuss how even a fine actor like Sidney Portier was forced into various stereotypes in the 1960's and early 1970's- all of this changed because of this television program. Afterwards, American culture was never the same, and how society viewed African-Americans was never the same.

The second reason is that the program was superlative. The script by Alex Haley was phenomenal, as was the directing. The actors were magnificent, especially Levar Burton, John Amos, Madge Sinclair, Chuck Connors, Ben Vereen, Lou Gossett, dozens of others, and for me most memorable of all Sandy Duncan in her finest role as the villainous Anne. Everything about this show was superb, including the music. It also set the standard for dozens of other programs that would follow.

16.17 Roots (Television Miniseries)
Tremendous pick, would get my vote for #1.
I think he should only get to pick one particular episode.
 
Fennis/Krista4
I just saw this on post #2. The agenda for the next Team Fennis board meeting is getting very long. Lack of a mission statement.

Becoming the identy of Team Fennis Krista

Showing me up by making better picks every round.

Drinking wine.

Getting married without running it by me.

Refusal to send a pic of oliver humanzee bookcase (short story shelf)

 
Postradamus...

I think you asked/questioned earlier concerning the Forbidden City pick vs your Ayutthaya...

Forbidden City was designed and built as a single entity within a given and short time frame (15 years).

Ayutthaya was the capital city for somewhere around 400 years with countless dynasties and kings trying to make their mark, architecturally, over that time. Allowing the city as a whole to be a pick would be akin to allowing Rome, Paris or New York (although I am open to specific urban design ideas as picks- if it goes that direction, you would not get every building too).

HTH.

 
Writeup for my 17.11, Velvet Underground and NicoI'll admit I bought this album during a period in my young teens when I bought anything at the local record shop with a great cover that I could afford. I didn't know too much about the band other than Lou Reed and his "and the colored girls sing, doot-duh-doot", but that Warhol banana was too much for me to resist.I'll further admit I didn't understand 99.99% of the topic matter (Heroin, BDSM, prostitution, drug use, etc, etc) or even understand thats what they were singing about. Also didn't know about and wouldn't have been capable of understanding the insane instrumental experimentation spearheaded by Cage (in Googling recently, I learned about "Ostrich tuning"? where all the guitars strings were tuned to the same note- used in my favorite two songs, Venus in Furs and All Tomorrows Parties).But it was the music that floored me- but not in a "I've got to listen to this over and over as soon as a I get it home" way. I wandered around it's periphery for a good while, tapping my feet initially to the "easier" listens- Sunday Morning, Run Run Run- and getting sucked in and falling for the monotone voice and pictures of the gorgeous Nico (went on a huge Nico tear in college... not so great, but some fun covers- wish I hadn't bought everything on cassette). The rest of the raw, matter of fact emotional, pulsing sound planted a seed somewhere deep in my gut that affected how I listened to pretty much everything afterwards.The album as a whole took time for me to wrap myself around- and I'm still wrapping. One of the few albums I can still listen to and still come away with something new- pretty much every time.

"European Son" – 8:49† "The Black Angel's Death Song" – 3:13† "All Tomorrow's Parties" – 5:51† "I'll Be Your Mirror" – 2:07† "Heroin" – 6:12‡ "Femme Fatale" – 2:36† "Venus in Furs" – 4:35‡ "I'm Waiting for the Man" – 4:11‡ "Run Run Run" – 4:23† † - denotes track as same take, but different mix from album version ‡ - denotes track as different take from album version [edit] PersonnelThe Velvet Underground & Nico John Cale – electric viola, piano, celesta on "Sunday Morning", bass guitar, backing vocals Sterling Morrison – lead and rhythm guitar, bass guitar, backing vocals Nico – chanteuse, lead vocals on "Femme Fatale", "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "I'll Be Your Mirror"; backing vocals on "Sunday Morning" Lou Reed – vocals, lead and ostrich guitar Maureen Tucker – percussion
Oh... and on top of my own feelings- arguably the most current, influential album of that era or ever.
 
Skipped Picks: None

15. Bob Lee Swagger The Nine Billion Ways Of God

16. Scott Norwood - The Tell Tale Heart

17. DC Thunder

18. Genedoc

19. Tirnan - autoskip

20. Yankee23 Fan

Round 18

1. Yankee23 Fan

2. Tirnan - autoskip

3. Genedoc

4. DC Thunder

5. Scott Norwood

6. Bob Lee Swagger

7. Misfit Blondes

8. Uncle Humuna

9. Mister CIA

10. El Floppo

11. thatguy

12. wikkidpissah

13. Tides of War - autoskip

14. BobbyLayne

15. Abrantes

16. DougB

17. timschochet

18. Postradamus

19. Rodg12

20. Krista4

 
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Lots of different ways to go here. I need Plays and Songs and Albums and books. But there are lots of those. What there aren't are first rate Documentaries, so I will take one. While this documentary film was not released in theatres, it was nonetheless a film, albeit one that was 11 hours long.

17.17--The Civil War by Ken Burns-Documentary TV Show

Debuting on PBS in September 1990, The Civil War was Ken Burns magnum opus and established him as a documentary film maker and led to other major projects by him. Shown on five consecutive nights, over 40 million people watched the initial run of the show on PBS, making it the most watched program ever to air on PBS. Repeated many times since, it has become the centerpiece of countless PBS pledge drives and is almost cliched in that way.

Transfered to DVD, it has sold millions of copies and is the preeminient treatment of the American Civil War in video or film.

Consisting of nine episodes and over 16,000 archival photographs, maps, paintings, lithographs, woodcuts and other period illustrations, interspersed with readings from the journals of politicians, soldiers and common people of both sides of the conflict, the production also featured a soundtrack of Civil War songs and a haunting theme played on a fiddle and guitar and banjo. The narration is by historian David McCollough although Shelby Foote, Barbara Fielding and other historians of the period also play prominant parts.

While some may quibble with some of the interpretation of the causes of the war or the tactics of the generals, no one seriously doubts the genius and vision of Ken Burns in producing this timeless documentary.

 
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Posting from a mobile device, so the write up will have to wait.Been eyeing this one for a while, and can't believe it's still available. It will slide nicely next to Don Quixote and Huck Finn.

17.18 - Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen - Novel

 
Posting from a mobile device, so the write up will have to wait.Been eyeing this one for a while, and can't believe it's still available. It will slide nicely next to Don Quixote and Huck Finn.17.18 - Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen - Novel
Nice pick, but you'll probably piss off krista. Chicks dig Jan Austen. :tinfoilhat:
 
Good morning. The Civil War was a television show. I understand it's referred to as a "film", but it was not released in theatres. I don't think we should open that category up to television as it will create problems later on. Therefore, at this time, I am vetoing that pick. You may appeal, or you can take The Civil War as your television pick, or you can choose something else.

 
Good morning. The Civil War was a television show. I understand it's referred to as a "film", but it was not released in theatres. I don't think we should open that category up to television as it will create problems later on. Therefore, at this time, I am vetoing that pick. You may appeal, or you can take The Civil War as your television pick, or you can choose something else.
timschochet said:
krista4 said:
timschochet said:
I don't think there's enough video entertainment. 100 isn't enough; it should be more like 200. Come on people, this category influences all of our lives like no other. I would divide it as so:

Comedy movie (1)

Drama movie (1)

action movie (1)

comedy television series (1)

drama television series (1)

Documentary (1)

video wildcard (4)
I'd like to see TV separated from movies, and I like having documentaries separate as well. Just might not go down to the specific categories you have. But agree there should be more representation of this area.
Well, in that case, we could just do:Movies (5)

TV shows (5)

Documentaries (movie or TV) (1)
 
Good morning. The Civil War was a television show. I understand it's referred to as a "film", but it was not released in theatres. I don't think we should open that category up to television as it will create problems later on. Therefore, at this time, I am vetoing that pick. You may appeal, or you can take The Civil War as your television pick, or you can choose something else.
He took it as a documentary though. We're not requiring that our documentaries have to be released in theaters are we?
 
Films do not have to be released in movie theaters first. They can be shown on DVD, TV, Movie screens, IMAX, Super 8 or not released at all. Clearly The Civil War is a documentary and clearly it should count. Good pick.

 
My statement that Fennis quoted was made before we firmed up the category. The actual rules say, "must be a film." Perhaps I should have written, "released in theatres"; that was certainly my intent. I think if we allow The Civil War we are opening up the category to documentary TV shows which was not intended. But again, DC is welcome to appeal this. I understand Fennis' argument, just disagree with it.

 
17.20 will have to be a pick I was targeting much later. However, the snipe of Ken Burns' great work on the Civil War above forces me to take this now because the blood is in the water so to speak.

It is my favorite documentary ever made. There is no close second in my mind. That it fits into my theme so well onlyu heightens the appeal of the pick to me. It was a great review of a great part of our culture. Nine parts long to fall into the theme of the topic it reviewed, it was the most powerful review of the topic ever conceived. The interviews are some of the best in the medium. The archival footage is so impressive that to this day it still amazes me. It also has seen a rebirth since Comcast channel 738 has given it a new avenue to be replayed over and over and over.

Everyone can find something in it to enjoy, admire and dream of. Every little boy who ever dreamed of being the hero in a stadium would be awed by the gods that stood in the old stadiums and who were the subject of this great film. From Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb and Christy Matthewson to George Brett, Pete Rose and the glaring almost death that baseball faced in 1994, this film shows it all. In black and white and color, it's a true priceless addition to American culture, and the game of baseball.

I select, Baseball: A Film by Ken Burns as my documentary. Just pretend this post ends with the playing of the National Athem as the show did. Thanks.

 

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