Official Great Works Draft (5 Viewers)

[Postradamus]

I accept.

 

[TidesofWar]

No worries - I've already been accused of weighing influence upon other/future works/artists too heavily. But we're talking about the greatest achievements of human history, so for me, when something is read/studied/performed 2500 years after it was originally created, that's amazing. IMHO, it places the onus on the newer work to demonstrate that the newer stuff is markedly better than the original. Think about great music/movies that even 10, 20 years later looks/feels dated. Personally, if we're going on a Friday night date, I'd rather go see Avenue Q than The Oresteia or some currently released film rather than Schindler's List. But we're designing our own personal museum, so timelessness and influence are, IMHO, major contributors to be taken into account when judging.

Who is to say that 2500 years from now, "Medea" will no longer valued, and white toga clad citizens residing on other planets will be trumpeting the values of Musicals based on Rick Astley music, or an operatic version of "Married With Children"??BTW - Had a great dinner Friday Night at The French Laundry in Napa, with bottles of a local Sauvignon Blanc, "Lail", Araujo Eiselle Vineyard Syrah, a Colgin "Herb Lamb Vineyard" 1992 Cab, and finally a Bryant Family Pritchard Hill 1993 Cab. :whoosh: :whoosh:

 

[rodg12]

MfB all about stretching the limits of the Play category.

 

[DCThunder]

a Bryant Family Pritchard Hill 1993 Cab.

Don Bryant, Jr.'s father lived next door to my in-laws in Florida for about 20 years. Don Bryant, Sr. passed away about 2 years ago at age 86 or so, still having a couple of Scotches each night and then drinking some of his son's finest wines. He was a pretty cool old dude, who could tell a great story and played golf until he was 84 and his knees gave out. He also had quite the eye for the ladies after his wife of 60 some years passed on.

 

[DCThunder]

MfB all about stretching the limits of the Play category.

Here we go again....

 

[Big Rocks]

 

[ScottNorwood]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

 

[Uncle Humuna]

22.08 The Internal Combustion Engine (Invention)

The importance of the internal combustion engine is impossible to overstate. Without it, we could not drive, fly, travel by train, build factories, motor across oceans, trim our lawns ... the list is endless. Credit for the first working internal combustion engine goes to the Belgian inventor Étienne Lenoir, who converted a steam engine in 1859. It boasted just one horsepower and was woefully inefficient, but spawned the billions of engines that have been built since.

 

[mad sweeney]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

Don't feel too bad, there's more than one way to get a zero in a category...

 

[Genedoc]

No worries - I've already been accused of weighing influence upon other/future works/artists too heavily. But we're talking about the greatest achievements of human history, so for me, when something is read/studied/performed 2500 years after it was originally created, that's amazing. IMHO, it places the onus on the newer work to demonstrate that the newer stuff is markedly better than the original. Think about great music/movies that even 10, 20 years later looks/feels dated. Personally, if we're going on a Friday night date, I'd rather go see Avenue Q than The Oresteia or some currently released film rather than Schindler's List. But we're designing our own personal museum, so timelessness and influence are, IMHO, major contributors to be taken into account when judging.

Who is to say that 2500 years from now, "Medea" will no longer valued, and white toga clad citizens residing on other planets will be trumpeting the values of Musicals based on Rick Astley music, or an operatic version of "Married With Children"??BTW - Had a great dinner Friday Night at The French Laundry in Napa, with bottles of a local Sauvignon Blanc, "Lail", Araujo Eiselle Vineyard Syrah, a Colgin "Herb Lamb Vineyard" 1992 Cab, and finally a Bryant Family Pritchard Hill 1993 Cab.

Sounds great. We've never eaten at The French Laundry, but we did do Cyrus almost exactly two years ago. It was a 10 course tasting menu that had wines with 8 of the pairings. My favorites were "Steak and Eggs" (Wagyu steak and lobster tartare with horseradish creme fraiche and caviar) served with a rose Champagne and foie gras with braised duck served with a Rioja. No Cabernet and no Bordeaux on the entire list, and I loved it. Leaving Sunday for a week in France - headed to Loire, then Rhone, then Burgundy. Bonzai has the keys to the corporate suite all of next week.

 

[Abrantes]

Pro wrestling is closer to a circus act than a play, but hey - not my pick. Be my guest.

 

[rodg12]

22.08 The Internal Combustion Engine (Invention)

The importance of the internal combustion engine is impossible to overstate. Without it, we could not drive, fly, travel by train, build factories, motor across oceans, trim our lawns ... the list is endless. Credit for the first working internal combustion engine goes to the Belgian inventor Étienne Lenoir, who converted a steam engine in 1859. It boasted just one horsepower and was woefully inefficient, but spawned the billions of engines that have been built since.

Can't believe this was still available. Had to double and triple-check the draft results to make sure it was.Great pick, UH.

 

[Abrantes]

22.08 The Internal Combustion Engine (Invention)

The importance of the internal combustion engine is impossible to overstate. Without it, we could not drive, fly, travel by train, build factories, motor across oceans, trim our lawns ... the list is endless. Credit for the first working internal combustion engine goes to the Belgian inventor Étienne Lenoir, who converted a steam engine in 1859. It boasted just one horsepower and was woefully inefficient, but spawned the billions of engines that have been built since.

Huge value for round 22.

 

[rodg12]

Skipped

22.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)

22.10 - El Floppo (autoskip)

22.11 - Thatguy - OTC until :33

22.12 - Wikkidpissah - On Deck

22.13 - Tides of War - In The Hole

22.14 - BobbyLayne

22.15 - Abrantes

22.16 - Doug B

22.17 - Timschochet

22.18 - Postradamus

22.19 - Rodg12

22.20 - Krista4

23.01 - Fennis

23.02 - Rodg12

23.03 - Postradamus

 

[mad sweeney]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

Don't feel too bad, there's more than one way to get a zero in a category...

You keep thinking that. Millions of people watch WrestleMania every year. WrestleMania is very well known and is a lot more popular than many of the plays being selected.

And you can keep thinking that popularity means great.

 

[krista4]

Since it seems that there is a run on picking stage plays, I'll continue the trend. But mine isn't a play written by a dead Greek guy three thousand years ago, but rather a play about a time in the recent past of America that probably seems like it was a thousand years ago, but in reality was only 25 years or so ago. My play won a Tony Award for Best Play in 2 successive years and is author won a Pulitzer Prize for Best Drama. It was developed into both an opera and a TV mini-series.

22.04--Angels in America (Millennium Approaches and Perestroika)-Tony Kushner-Play

Angels in America is about AIDS and closeted gays and Roy Cohn and the ghost of Ethel Rosenberg and Judaism and Mormonism and politcs and America in the last decades of the 20th century. Written in two parts, but usually performed together, the plays feature only 8 actors who play multiple roles. Heavy on the politics and theatrics, the play contains meny Biblical themes and fantasy voyages and special effects. While it may be somewhat dated today, there is no question of its importance when it was written and performed for the first time.

Really wanted this and was SURE I could get it much later while everyone concentrated on earlier works. Well, crap. Nice pick.

 

[krista4]

Since it seems that there is a run on picking stage plays, I'll continue the trend. But mine isn't a play written by a dead Greek guy three thousand years ago, but rather a play about a time in the recent past of America that probably seems like it was a thousand years ago, but in reality was only 25 years or so ago. My play won a Tony Award for Best Play in 2 successive years and is author won a Pulitzer Prize for Best Drama. It was developed into both an opera and a TV mini-series.

22.04--Angels in America (Millennium Approaches and Perestroika)-Tony Kushner-Play

Angels in America is about AIDS and closeted gays and Roy Cohn and the ghost of Ethel Rosenberg and Judaism and Mormonism and politcs and America in the last decades of the 20th century. Written in two parts, but usually performed together, the plays feature only 8 actors who play multiple roles. Heavy on the politics and theatrics, the play contains meny Biblical themes and fantasy voyages and special effects. While it may be somewhat dated today, there is no question of its importance when it was written and performed for the first time.

MOTHER####ER.This was going to be my next play pick. The best thing I've ever seen live on stage (minus some Mitchell Bros... but that's another category) and was one of the must-haves for team Floppo.

This one hurts.

At least I have company. Glad to see this getting a lot of appreciation.

 

[krista4]

Skipped22.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)22.10 - El Floppo (autoskip)22.11 - Thatguy - OTC until :3322.12 - Wikkidpissah - On Deck22.13 - Tides of War - In The Hole22.14 - BobbyLayne22.15 - Abrantes22.16 - Doug B22.17 - Timschochet22.18 - Postradamus22.19 - Rodg1222.20 - Krista423.01 - Fennis23.02 - Rodg1223.03 - Postradamus

My name's on the list.

 

[Bonzai]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

Don't feel too bad, there's more than one way to get a zero in a category...

You keep thinking that. Millions of people watch WrestleMania every year. WrestleMania is very well known and is a lot more popular than many of the plays being selected.

And you can keep thinking that popularity means great.

Not at all but people have actually seen WrestleMania or at least know who has performed in one. I can't say the same for some of the plays that have been or will be chosen.

Good one, larry.

 

[DCThunder]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

Don't feel too bad, there's more than one way to get a zero in a category...

You keep thinking that. Millions of people watch WrestleMania every year. WrestleMania is very well known and is a lot more popular than many of the plays being selected.

And you can keep thinking that popularity means great.

Not at all but people have actually seen WrestleMania or at least know who has performed in one. I can't say the same for some of the plays that have been or will be chosen.

To be fair, this is probably true. Wrestlemania is also a much more inspired "out-of-the-box" pick than the Immaculate Reception was. But it also means admitting that all pro wrestling is scripted and not a real athletic contest. That isn't to say the wrestlers aren't athletes, (at least most are) but you can't say it's "real" and have it qualify as a "play", at least IMHO.

 

[krista4]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

Don't feel too bad, there's more than one way to get a zero in a category...

You keep thinking that. Millions of people watch WrestleMania every year. WrestleMania is very well known and is a lot more popular than many of the plays being selected.

And you can keep thinking that popularity means great.

Not at all but people have actually seen WrestleMania or at least know who has performed in one. I can't say the same for some of the plays that have been or will be chosen.

ATTENTION: The part of larry_boy will be played in this evening's performance by MisfitBlondes.ETA: Bonzai

 

[mad sweeney]

Innovative pick by MB. Wish I had thought of it

Don't feel too bad, there's more than one way to get a zero in a category...

You keep thinking that. Millions of people watch WrestleMania every year. WrestleMania is very well known and is a lot more popular than many of the plays being selected.

And you can keep thinking that popularity means great.

Not at all but people have actually seen WrestleMania or at least know who has performed in one. I can't say the same for some of the plays that have been or will be chosen.

If there was TV around when Sophocles wrote then there would be. A lot of people have seen William Hung sing, but that doesn't make him a good singer.BTW, your argument above basically restates that it's sole attribute is popularity. Enjoy your zero.

 

[Abrantes]

Skipped22.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)22.10 - El Floppo (autoskip)22.11 - Thatguy - OTC until :3322.12 - Wikkidpissah - On Deck22.13 - Tides of War - In The Hole22.14 - BobbyLayne22.15 - Abrantes22.16 - Doug B22.17 - Timschochet22.18 - Postradamus22.19 - Rodg1222.20 - Krista423.01 - Fennis23.02 - Rodg1223.03 - Postradamus

My name's on the list.

 

[krista4]

Skipped22.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)22.10 - El Floppo (autoskip)22.11 - Thatguy - OTC until :3322.12 - Wikkidpissah - On Deck22.13 - Tides of War - In The Hole22.14 - BobbyLayne22.15 - Abrantes22.16 - Doug B22.17 - Timschochet22.18 - Postradamus22.19 - Rodg1222.20 - Krista423.01 - Fennis23.02 - Rodg1223.03 - Postradamus

My name's on the list.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with category need or to take something I really want and don't trust you not to take.

 

[Abrantes]

I'm trying to decide whether to go with category need or to take something I really want and don't trust you not to take.

Not sure what I'm going with yet, but after the last few snipes I've endured, it's hard to feel safe that any of the stuff on my shortlist will make its way back to me.

 

[Bonzai]

ATTENTION: The part of larry_boy will be played in this evening's performance by MisfitBlondes.ETA: Bonzai

Your execution was better.But really, pretty disappointing that we need to recycle larryboy shtick to keep things interesting around here.

 

[thatguy]

Going to pick another non-fiction work - this one was written by the man who designed my most recent structural pick. This architectural treatise has been read by architects for hundreds of years and its influence is undeniable.

Now, this treatise consists of 4 books, but I think for the purpose of this draft, it would be silly to have to pick one individual book. So, unless enough people object, which I don't foresee happening, I am taking all 4.



I Quattro Libri dell'Architettura by Andrea Palladio

I Quattro Libri dell'Architettura (The Four Books of Architecture) is an Italian treatise on architecture by the architect Andrea Palladio (1508-1580). It was first published in four volumes in 1570 in Venice, illustrated with engravings after the author's own drawings. It has been reprinted and translated many times (often in single-volume format). The first English language edition was prepared by the architect Giacomo Leoni for a London publisher in the eighteenth century.

Palladio founded an architectural movement which takes its name from him, Palladian architecture. I Quattro Libri dell'Architettura contains Palladio's own designs celebrating the purity and simplicity of classical architecture. Some of these ideas had not got further than the drawing board while others, for example villa plans, had been successfully built. The book's clarity inspired numerous patrons and other architects. Palladian architecture grew in popularity across Europe and, by the end of the 18th century, had extended as far as North America. Thomas Jefferson, president of the United States, was a keen admirer of Palladio and once referred to the book as "the Bible". The four books were used to inform his own work as the architect of Monticello and the University of Virginia.

Palladio drew inspiration from surviving Roman buildings, Roman authors (especially the architect Vitruvius) and Italian Renaissance architects. However, The Four Books of Architecture provided systematic rules and plans for buildings which were creative and unique. Palladio’s villa style is based on details applied to a structural system built of bricks. He offers two types of general rules in the corpus: design rules (those based on appearance) and construction rules (those based on the logic of villa construction). Here rules of the two types are identified in sets from which sub-sets of identifiers and rules can be written.

Each of the nine rule-sets contains many sub-identities of components and procedures for physical construction. A rule-set such as “Walls”, that identifies five sub-rules based on wall thickness, only needs construction rules; there is no need for rules based on style. In contrast, rules for “Frames” are based on a geometric style of curves and shape proportions. The results will yield clear identities for a shape grammar composition that can be based on physical construction and visual style.

These identities are taken from the first book of architecture and a survey of built villas. These are the nine rule-sets that define identity:

Villa Pisani (Bagnolo) in I Quattro Libri dell'Architettura

1. Walls — parametric formula

2. Ceilings — parametric formula

3. Stairs — parametric formula

4. Columns — parametric object

5. Doors — parametric formula

6. Windows — parametric formula

7. Frames — parametric object

8. Roof — parametric formula

9. Details — parametric object and formula

 

[Abrantes]

MB, I'll have to ask you to select a specific WrestleMania event. Unlike the TV Show category, which focuses on serial storytelling, the play category deals with unique, self-contained performances. Each WrestleMania is a wholly different show, so kindly pick just one. TIA



Meanwhile, my contention that pro wrestling is closer to a circus performance than a play has been left unaddressed...

 

[Yankee23Fan]

 

[mad sweeney]

If there was TV around when Sophocles wrote then there would be. A lot of people have seen William Hung sing, but that doesn't make him a good singer.BTW, your argument above basically restates that it's sole attribute is popularity. Enjoy your zero.

Seeing as how you love to make sure everyone knows you've met some Hollywood types, you should be the first one to understand there must be some element to ensure something stays popular for 25 yrs. You're going to nitpick because you, like many others, will view this pick as "beneath them" but it still needs to be taken into consideration as a viable selection since millions of people, year after year, will watch.

Unless you've taken it as a TV show then I would assume you only get 1 single WrestleMania as your play. How many times do people watch Wrestlemania I every year vs how many watch any of the other plays every year? Get down off your workingman's high horse. It's a show designed for 14 year old zit ridden teenagers. So yeah, it's "beneath" me being as how I am a grown man. I don't see how anyone can honestly expect it to match up against any of the plays that will be selected, especially if you only have the LarryBoy argument for your defense.As far as ensuring something sticks around, it's been my experience that the dumbest downed, lowest common denominator shows are the ones that tend to last the longest. WM is not a viable selection as for ranking plays, although it does meet the letter of the category if not the spirit. As long as there are zit faced teenage boys there will be WM, but that doesn't make it great.

 

[thatguy]

Going to take my first movie. I think most of my movies will be more recent as I have not seen most of the classics and don't want to pick something I've never seen.The Silence of the LambsHopkins gives us one of the all time great performances as the deranged yet brilliant Hannibal Lecter. Jodie Foster is very solid as Clarice Starling - pretty much the perfect actress for the role and she delivered a fantastic performance. Ted Levine is amazing as Buffalo Bill - simultaneously fascinating and repulsive.The movies keeps the viewer on the edge of his seat throughout, and has many small twists that add to the viewing experience. It is full of some of the most memorable scenes of all time."It rubs the lotion on its skin, it does this whenever it's told. It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.""Would you #### me? I'd #### me. I'd #### me hard. I'd #### me so hard.""You still wake up sometimes don't you? Wake up in the dark to hear the screaming of the lambs.""Have the lambs stopped screaming Clarice?""I have to go now, I'm having an old friend for dinner.""A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti."

I worked a season with Ted on Monk. It was impossible not to think about Buffalo Bill every time we heard him speak. Myself and one of the PAs had a great time doing physical mimicry of him (when he wasn't around). I'd come around the corner with some gels or paperwork, stop and sort of let them fall out fo my hand as I went back around the corner (as when he dropped the business cards at his house when Starling realizes he's the killer). Or wandering around with random "Uh, was she a great big ol fat girl?" into the radio. Fun times. My favorite part though is at the end of the season they were going to fire the Unit Productin Manager and his parking space was right outside the stage door. Levine was wandering around smoking and looked down, saw the name of the UPM and mumbled in a very near BB voice "Oh, um, looks like I'm standing in my new parking spot, hmmm". Guess you had to be there but with his voice and sort of lost personality it was drop dead hilarious.To the best of my knowledge, no one did the tuck.

Thanks for sharing MS. That would have been a trip working with Levine. His voice is so unique, I don't see anyway you could be around him and not think of BB constantly. The tuck was classic. That whole scene is so money - Goodbye Horses by Q Lazarus was the the perfect song for the scene. The movie was incredibly well done in every regard - shame no one commented on it. Oh well.

 

[Abrantes]

Meanwhile, my contention that pro wrestling is closer to a circus performance than a play has been left unaddressed...

Professional wrestling is about performers going on stage and acting out the script set forth by the writers.

Not quite. The "script" tends to be very loose, and cases where every move is plotted out are distinct rarities. Generally speaking, most of the action is improvised to allow more flexibility in tending to the audience's whims. It caters to the audience, much like a circus show, while a play presents its script faithfully, enduring the audience's scorn, if necessary.

 

[anborn]

I still can't get over misfitblondes being a dude. that avatar is highly misleading.

 

[Abrantes]

Wrestling also happens to be closer to ballet than stage plays, given its almost exclusively physical nature. Should we allow ballet under the Play umbrella as well?

 

[Bonzai]

Meanwhile, my contention that pro wrestling is closer to a circus performance than a play has been left unaddressed...

Professional wrestling is about performers going on stage and acting out the script set forth by the writers.

Well MB, it looks like you finally got us.Personally, I'm really burned up about it.

 

[Abrantes]

MB, I'll have to ask you to select a specific WrestleMania event. Unlike the TV Show category, which focuses on serial storytelling, the play category deals with unique, self-contained performances. Each WrestleMania is a wholly different show, so kindly pick just one. TIA

I did.

You did? Are you taking WrestleMania I? I highly doubt more people are familiar with the specifics of that event than some of the other plays taken thus far.

 

[jmp]

From Houston Chronicle

Shakespearean roots? Layfield, who moonlights as a financial commentator on Fox Business Channel, compares WWE matches to one-act plays in their good-versus-evil plot lines and a mix of character development, stagecraft and violence that he says has its roots in Shakespeare. But while Layfield knows the outcome, he, too, advises suspending disbelief once the curtain goes up and WrestleMania begins.

 

[rodg12]

MB, I'll have to ask you to select a specific WrestleMania event. Unlike the TV Show category, which focuses on serial storytelling, the play category deals with unique, self-contained performances. Each WrestleMania is a wholly different show, so kindly pick just one. TIA

I did.

Where did you specify this?

 

[Abrantes]

Meanwhile, my contention that pro wrestling is closer to a circus performance than a play has been left unaddressed...

Professional wrestling is about performers going on stage and acting out the script set forth by the writers.

Not quite. The "script" tends to be very loose, and cases where every move is plotted out are distinct rarities. Generally speaking, most of the action is improvised to allow more flexibility in tending to the audience's whims. It caters to the audience, much like a circus show, while a play presents its script faithfully, enduring the audience's scorn, if necessary.

Actually, the "script" is more defined than loose. The performers "rehearse" the shows by having the same match in different cities leading up to big events.

I'm waiting on the house show reports that confirm the specifics of said matches, and how similar they are to the versions performed on the big events. All I have to go on is the word of most old wrestling stars, who claim to repudiate overly-plotted matches.

 

[timschochet]

Just got in, and updating now.

Misfit Blondes, I am rejecting your choice of Wrestlemania as a play. So there is no confusion later, I will give the definition of theatrical play as given by Dictionary.com, which I find to be satisfactory:

A play, or stageplay, is a form of literature written by a playwright, almost always consisting of scripted dialogue between fictional characters, intended for theatrical performance rather than reading. There are rare dramatists who have had little preference whether their plays were performed or read. Therefore, the term "play" can refer to both the written works of playwrights and to their complete theatrical performance.

Wrestlemania is an entertainment/sports event where the final results are often predetermined. While there are some similarities between this, or a circus, and certain plays, I must rule that Wrestlemania is NOT a play as it does not fall into the definition given above. Wrestlemania is NEVER a form of literature.

Those are my reasons for rejecting it. You are welcome to appeal to the other two judges if you so wish.

 

[ScottNorwood]

I still can't get over misfitblondes being a dude. that avatar is highly misleading.

pre-OP

 

[Bonzai]

Meanwhile, my contention that pro wrestling is closer to a circus performance than a play has been left unaddressed...

Professional wrestling is about performers going on stage and acting out the script set forth by the writers.

Well MB, it looks like you finally got us.Personally, I'm really burned up about it.

I wasn't out to "get" anyone. I wanted something different. I don't believe taking Shakespeare play #22 adds anything to the draft. Anyone can Google "plays" and come up with something that we haven't heard of or seen before. It seems pointless to take a "Great Work" that will be judged based on lists from websites.

I was kidding. Whatever blows your dress up.

 

[rodg12]

Skipped

22.07 - Misfit Blondes (re-pick requested, possibly pending appeal)

22.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)

22.10 - El Floppo (autoskip)

22.12 - Wikkidpissah - OTC until :00

22.13 - Tides of War - On Deck

22.14 - BobbyLayne/flysack - In The Hole

22.15 - Abrantes

22.16 - Doug B

22.17 - Timschochet

22.18 - Postradamus

22.19 - Rodg12

22.20 - Krista4

23.01 - Fennis

23.02 - Rodg12

23.03 - Postradamus

 

[Abrantes]

MB, I'll have to ask you to select a specific WrestleMania event. Unlike the TV Show category, which focuses on serial storytelling, the play category deals with unique, self-contained performances. Each WrestleMania is a wholly different show, so kindly pick just one. TIA

I did.

You did? Are you taking WrestleMania I? I highly doubt more people are familiar with the specifics of that event than some of the other plays taken thus far.

Really? Do you think people can tell you any of the specifics or characters from any of these ancient plays being selected?

Naturally there are no exact numbers, but I'm fairly confident that a few of these plays have been read or watched by more than the one million or so viewers registered for WrestleMania I.Many of these ancient plays are still taught in school and performed by theatre groups. Slightly more shelf life than one specific wrestling event.

 

[timschochet]

DC Thunder, I note that you selected the painting, "Girl With A Pink Earring". I note that you already have 3 paintings:

Painting (1) Bayeux Tapestry

Painting (2) The Garden of Earthly Delights

Painting (3) The Raft of The Medusa

Is this correct? Do you want the 4th painting as a WC? Please let me know if I have this right.

 

[timschochet]

Just got in, and updating now.

Misfit Blondes, I am rejecting your choice of Wrestlemania as a play. So there is no confusion later, I will give the definition of theatrical play as given by Dictionary.com, which I find to be satisfactory:

A play, or stageplay, is a form of literature written by a playwright, almost always consisting of scripted dialogue between fictional characters, intended for theatrical performance rather than reading. There are rare dramatists who have had little preference whether their plays were performed or read. Therefore, the term "play" can refer to both the written works of playwrights and to their complete theatrical performance.

Wrestlemania is an entertainment/sports event where the final results are often predetermined. While there are some similarities between this, or a circus, and certain plays, I must rule that Wrestlemania is NOT a play as it does not fall into the definition given above. Wrestlemania is NEVER a form of literature.

Those are my reasons for rejecting it. You are welcome to appeal to the other two judges if you so wish.

A playwright, also known as a dramatist, is a person who writes dramatic literature or drama. These works may be written specifically to be performed by actors or they may be closet dramas or literary works written using dramatic forms but not meant for performance.

Vince McMahon, as head writer, is the playwright who gives the script to his performers who, in turn, go out and perform for the audience. The performers are fictional characters who entertain the audience according to what has been scripted.

I don't find your reasoning to be convincing. I respect your viewpoint, but we disagree. There is no purpose in arguing about it. Do you wish to appeal?

 

[wikkidpissah]

22.12 SOUND RECORDING, TAEdison, invention

I was hoping it would make it back to me so I could have the Edison(?) modern-media exacta with motion pictures. My grandfather, the person most responsible for my mindset, was a huge fan of Edison and had a collection of over 4,000 pieces of Edisonia. we dedicated many family vacations to schlepping him to Menlo Park, NJ (the Black Maria WAS cool, tho), Milan, OH & Dearbon MI to see various Edison landmarks. his roomful of those great phonograph horns were like a garden of sound for me & i was his hobby ##### all thru my childhood. i especially enjoyed when he'd unwrap one of his several hundred cylinder recordings to play and, on a coupla occasions, he recorded us talking on one. anyway, it's a great treat for me to have two of Edison's Big Three inventions in this, especially the ones responsible for many of the other pix in the WGD.

 

[timschochet]

I'm not arguing with you anymore on this, Tim. Everything you wanted has been met and you're now just being overly difficult because you don't like my selection.

I don't know what this means exactly. The last time we went through this you accused me of not giving you a reason for my decision. This time I have. You can choose to appeal if you like; perhaps the other judges will be convinced either by your reasoning or by your conviction that I am being overly difficult because I don't like your selection. If you do not appeal, then you need to make another selection.

 

[Charlie Harper]

Very interesting selection MisfitBlondes. Wrestlemania is truly a big part of the lives of many children growing up. I would however, have gone with Wrestlemania III if I were you. The reply value is phenominal and it really thrust this brand of entertainment into the spotlight. Hulk vs Andre. Savage vs Steamboat. Iron Sheik/Nikolia Volkoff vs The Killer Bees. All true masterpeices with excellent plot lines and politcal undertones.

Well done sir.

 

[rodg12]

I'm not arguing with you anymore on this, Tim. Everything you wanted has been met and you're now just being overly difficult because you don't like my selection.

I don't know what this means exactly. The last time we went through this you accused me of not giving you a reason for my decision. This time I have. You can choose to appeal if you like; perhaps the other judges will be convinced either by your reasoning or by your conviction that I am being overly difficult because I don't like your selection. If you do not appeal, then you need to make another selection.

Now you're really being obtuse. I think it might be better if I put you on ignore.

He's the one being obtuse. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.