Official Great Works Draft (4 Viewers)

[Uncle Humuna]

24.08 MisfitBlondes' Selection of Wrestlemania as a Play in the GWD (Non-Ficiton)

 

[rodg12]

Skipped

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

23.12 - Team CIA (autoskip)

23.19 - Tirnan (autoskip if not here in first 5)

24.02 - Tirnan (autoskip if not here in first 5)

24.04 - DC Thunder (requested skip)

24.05 - Scott Norwood - OTC until :51

24.06 - Bob Lee Swagger - On Deck

24.07 - Misfit Blondes (possibly) - In The Hole

24.08 - Uncle Humuna

24.09 - Team CIA

24.10 - El Floppo

24.11 - Thatguy

24.12 - Wikkidpissah

24.13 - Tides of War

24.14 - BobbyLayne

24.15 - Abrantes

24.16 - Doug B

24.17 - Timschochet

24.18 - Postradamus

24.19 - Rodg

24.20 - Fennis

 

[rodg12]

I don't suppose there's any reason to expect you to respect the rules when you don't respect the categories. The triumverate voted you down, at this point you're doing nothing but proving that you are deliberately trying to sabotage the draft.

You have your opinion, I have mine. I respect the categories as much as anyone else. I'm not the one constantly bringing this back up, I just respond. I suggest you quit trying to point out some "triumvirate" since one of them is clearly not willing to look at things from different angles and another is misinformed on this issue. Now run along and boo hoo about something else.

That's blatantly untrue and everyone here knows it.Two judges voted against you. Do you think anyone who got voted down didn't think they should be allowed their pick when it was vetoed? Or is that unique position reserved only for you?

Actually, I do respect the categories. You really shouldn't speak for everyone else, it's rather rude.One judge said to stay down the middle and to quit looking at the fringe...are you willing to fall in line and not seek out something different? I'm not and I won't...I'm going to continue to look at everything possible for the purposes of this draft. I refuse to be told what I should and shouldn't draft. If they wanted us to follow a set list of what should be chosen, they should have provided us with a list of what will be judged and how it will be ranked.

The other judge follows a similar path...unwilling to step away from the common opinion.

If it wasn't for someone trying something new and being willing to fight for it, there's a good chance a lot of what we are drafting would never have been created in the first place. I find it ironic that certain people are so closed-minded, especially when it comes to Great Works.

All that was asked was that you respect the rules layed out for overruling picks. That's it. You chose not to. That has caused problems.

 

[flysack]

Uncle Humma - 1

People With Panties in a Bunch - 0

 

[Postradamus]

Is central heating and air still on the board? just curious.

yes, thanks to you no one will draft it. cursed this whole thing.

 

[Fennis]

24.08 MisfitBlondes' Selection of Wrestlemania as a Play in the GWD (Non-Ficiton)

I object

 

[thatguy]

I will end the 23rd round with the single most important pick to me personally void of all the important stuff in life like politics and history.

No, this pick is all heart. All my soul. Everything that I remember that was good about my childhood, about my family, about life. It is a structure that was the greatest of them all, and while I understand that two others would like to make that claim, I disagree. No, this was the greatest ever. It always will be. It is a building that has a place in my heart unlike any other, and as it is doomed to be demolished, a part of me will die with it. It had already been replaced. Structurewise. It will never be replaced to me. Just succeeded in use. The best memories of my father took place there. And I was lucky enough to get my son to see it, and share the greatness and majesty with him, before it will be lost forever to the wrecking ball and parking lots that await it. No great building deserves that fate, whether by development or war or time, yet sadly they all have or will.

I select, The Original Yankee Stadium .

The original Yankee Stadium is a stadium located in The Bronx in New York City, New York. It served as the home baseball park of Major League Baseball's New York Yankees from 1923 to 1973 and after extensive renovations, from 1976 to 2008. Located at East 161st Street and River Avenue, the stadium has a capacity of 57,545 and hosted 6,581 Yankees regular season home games during its 85-year history. It was also the former home of the New York Giants football team, as well as the host of twenty of boxing's most famous fights and three Papal Masses. The stadium's nickname, "The House That Ruth Built" comes from the iconic Babe Ruth, the baseball superstar whose prime years coincided with the beginning of the Yankees' winning history.

Yankee Stadium is one of the most famous venues in the United States, having hosted a variety of events and many historic moments during its existence. Its primary occupants, the Yankees, have won more World Series championships (26) than any other major league club and Yankee Stadium has hosted 37 World Series, more than any other baseball stadium. The Stadium also hosted the major-league All-Star Game four times: 1939, 1960, 1977, and, as part of its curtain call, 2008.

In 2006, the Yankees began construction on a new $1.8 billion stadium in public parkland adjacent to the original Yankee Stadium. The new stadium opened in 2009, and most of the old stadium, including the above-ground structure, is to be demolished to become parkland.[1]

The first game at the stadium was held on April 18, 1923, with the Yankees beating the Boston Red Sox 4–1. The final game at the stadium was held on September 21, 2008, with the Yankees beating the Baltimore Orioles 7–3.

The Stadium was the first facility in North America with three tiers, although the triple deck originally extended only to the left and right field corners. The concrete lower deck extended well into left field, with the obvious intention of extending the upper deck over it, which was accomplished during the 1926–1927 off-season.

Yankee Stadium was the first three-tiered sports facility in the United States and one of the first baseball parks to be given the lasting title of stadium. Baseball teams typically played in a park or a field. The word stadium deliberately evoked ancient Greece, where a stadia was unit of measure—the length of a footrace; the buildings that housed footraces were called stadiums. Yankee Stadium was one of the first to be deliberately designed as a multi-purpose facility. The field was initially surrounded by a (misshapen) quarter-mile (0.4 km) running track, which effectively also served as a warning track for outfielders, a feature now standard on all major league fields. The left and right field bleacher sections were laid out at right angles to each other, and to the third base stands, to be properly positioned for both track-and-field events and football. The large electronic scoreboard in right-center field, featuring both teams' lineups and scores of other baseball games, was the first of its kind.

As Yankee Stadium owed its creation largely to Ruth, its design partially accommodated the game's left-handed-hitting slugger. Initially the fence was 295 feet (90 m) from home plate down the right-field line, referred to as the "short porch", and 350 feet (110 m) to near right field, compared with 490 feet (150 m) to the deepest part of center field, nicknamed Death Valley. The right-field bleachers were appropriately nicknamed "Ruthville." Although the right field fences were eventually pushed back after the 1974-1975 renovations, they were still relatively close to home plate and retained the "short porch" moniker.

Monument Park was an open-air museum that contained the Yankees' retired numbers, as well as a collection of monuments and plaques honoring distinguished members of the New York Yankees. It was located beyond the left-center field fences, near the bullpens.

The origins of Monument Park can be traced to the original three monuments of Lou Gehrig, Miller Huggins, and Babe Ruth that once used to stand in-play in center field. Over the years, the Yankees continued to honor players and personnel with additional monuments and plaques. After the 1974–1975 renovations of Yankee Stadium, the monuments and plaques were moved behind the outfield fences to "Monument Park." A visual collection of retired numbers was soon added to this location. Monument Park remained there until the stadium's closing in 2008; after the new Yankee Stadium opened, the retired numbers, plaques, and monuments were moved into a new Monument Park in the new ballpark.

One of the most distinguishing characteristics of Yankee Stadium is the "facade", a white frieze that runs along the bleacher billboards and scoreboard.

The facade was an addition made by Osborn Engineering, when the owners of the Yankees asked that the stadium be given "an air of dignity".[15] It originally ran around the roof of the grandstand's upper deck. This original facade was copper, although it was painted white in the mid-1960s.

When the stadium was renovated in the 1970s, the upper deck was expanded upwards, and the support columns were removed. Without the columns to support it, the roof had to be scaled back, and the facade was removed. A smaller, concrete version was erected above the scoreboards and billboards behind the bleachers, its current location. In the new stadium, the facade was replicated in its original position along the roof of the upper deck, although now constructed of steel painted white.

The iconic facade is employed in graphics for the YES Network and was incorporated into the logo for the 2008 All-Star Game held at the Stadium.

The term "facade" is actually a misnomer. The scalloped arches are actually a frieze, and it was originally known as such. It is unknown when or where the term "facade" came into use, but it has become the more common name,[15] used by fans, broadcasters, and personnel. With the move to the new stadium, the organization has made a move to return to the term "frieze", exclusively using it in public statements and literature.

When she goes, I'm losing a family member.

I almost sniped you a few rounds ago. But I knew you'd want this on your team, so I decided not to. Nice pick.

 

[TidesofWar]

We're going back to the album category, and we're staying in Detroit. Like "Respect" before it, this album is a top 5-10 pick by any criteria you'd like to use. When El Floppo picked the title track 5 rounds ago for the song category, I figured the album would very shortly follow. Luckily for Gene/Bonzai, it's still here 5 rounds later. Widely regarded as one of the top albums of all time, it's easily the masterpiece of one of the most definitive male vocalists in US history. Complete with a three octave range and fueled by an anger at what he was watching happen in the late 1960's, Marvin Gaye wrote, recorded, and produced an iconic piece of American art. Tackling the themes of the day - racial injustices, the Vietnam War, urban living conditions - with an unmatched passion and beauty of voice, it's beautiful, beautiful work of art framed like so much great art is by the artist's own demons.

24.03 - What's Going On - Marvin Gaye - Album

1. "What's Going On" (Al Cleveland, Marvin Gaye, Renaldo Benson) – 3:53

2. "What's Happening Brother" (James Nyx, M. Gaye) – 2:43

3. "Flyin' High (In the Friendly Sky)" (M. Gaye, Anna Gordy Gaye, Elgie Stover) – 3:49

4. "Save the Children" (Cleveland, M. Gaye, Benson) – 4:03

5. "God Is Love" (M. Gaye, A. Gaye, Stover, Nyx) – 1:41

6. "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)" (M. Gaye) – 3:16

7. "Right On" (Earl DeRouen, M. Gaye) – 7:31

8. "Wholy Holy" (Benson, Cleveland, M. Gaye) – 3:08

9. "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" (M. Gaye, Nyx) – 5:26

And with What's Going On next to Pet Sounds, we're quite pleased with our album section.

Awesome pick, and the judge is a fan, if I remember correctly. It's pure sonic gold from start to finish, without even taking into account the sociopolitical themes it tackles. Ridiculously good.

you remember correctly, meu camarada - my favorite popular album.

Insider trading of personal preference?/

 

[rodg12]

All that was asked was that you respect the rules layed out for overruling picks. That's it. You chose not to. That has caused problems.

Oh come on, I've respected the rules and went out to provide adequate explanations as to why selections are valid. The only reason I get vetoed is because Tim doesn't want to view things the same way I do. You know perfectly well that enough people found the pick acceptable and this would be a non-issue if he didn't feel the need to pipe up. My selection doesn't meet Tim's vision and he doesn't want anything out of the ordinary. The majority has moved on and a select group continues to make this an issue. If you had left it alone and not kept bringing it back up, this would be well behind us and no one would give it a second thought.

Good one.

Not re-picking or reallocating after the triumvirate vetoed your pick is not following the rules. Plain and simple. End of story.

 

[mad sweeney]

All that was asked was that you respect the rules layed out for overruling picks. That's it. You chose not to. That has caused problems.

Oh come on, I've respected the rules and went out to provide adequate explanations as to why selections are valid. The only reason I get vetoed is because Tim doesn't want to view things the same way I do. You know perfectly well that enough people found the pick acceptable and this would be a non-issue if he didn't feel the need to pipe up. My selection doesn't meet Tim's vision and he doesn't want anything out of the ordinary. The majority has moved on and a select group continues to make this an issue. If you had left it alone and not kept bringing it back up, this would be well behind us and no one would give it a second thought.

Good one.

Not re-picking or reallocating after the triumvirate vetoed your pick is not following the rules. Plain and simple. End of story.

Yes, his validations of the Immaculate Reception were great... if it weren't for Tim's preordained vision of how the draft would go. damn him for expecting actual plays to end up in the play category!

FYI, enough people did not in fact find your pick acceptable. In fact, two of the three people charged with determining eligibility voted against you. Again.

I was disappointed that LarryBoy and MarioKart weren't in this one, MB has been close but isn't quite enough to sustain my amusement.

 

[rodg12]

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Let's keep this moving.

 

[ScottNorwood]

24.05 Animal Farm (non fiction)

This is a novel. The short novel is dystopian allegory in which animals play the roles of the Bolshevik revolutionaries[4] and overthrow and oust the human owner of a farm (Manor Farm), renaming it Animal Farm and setting it up as a commune in which, at first, all animals are equal; however, class and status disparities soon emerge between the different animal species (the pigs being the "more equal species"). The novel describes how a society's ideologies can be manipulated and twisted by those in positions of social and political power, including how Utopian society is made impossible by the corrupting nature of the very power necessary to create it.

The novel addresses not only the corruption of the revolution by its leaders but also how wickedness, indifference, ignorance, greed and myopia destroy any possibility of a Utopia. While this novel portrays corrupt leadership as the flaw in revolution (and not the act of revolution itself), it also shows how potential ignorance and indifference to problems within a revolution could allow horrors to happen if smooth transition to a people's government isn't satisfied. This was based on a true story of what the animals might well have done while the farmers weren't looking.

 

[DCThunder]

I'll have a pick up shortly.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I will end the 23rd round with the single most important pick to me personally void of all the important stuff in life like politics and history.

No, this pick is all heart. All my soul. Everything that I remember that was good about my childhood, about my family, about life. It is a structure that was the greatest of them all, and while I understand that two others would like to make that claim, I disagree. No, this was the greatest ever. It always will be. It is a building that has a place in my heart unlike any other, and as it is doomed to be demolished, a part of me will die with it. It had already been replaced. Structurewise. It will never be replaced to me. Just succeeded in use. The best memories of my father took place there. And I was lucky enough to get my son to see it, and share the greatness and majesty with him, before it will be lost forever to the wrecking ball and parking lots that await it. No great building deserves that fate, whether by development or war or time, yet sadly they all have or will.

I select, The Original Yankee Stadium .

The original Yankee Stadium is a stadium located in The Bronx in New York City, New York. It served as the home baseball park of Major League Baseball's New York Yankees from 1923 to 1973 and after extensive renovations, from 1976 to 2008. Located at East 161st Street and River Avenue, the stadium has a capacity of 57,545 and hosted 6,581 Yankees regular season home games during its 85-year history. It was also the former home of the New York Giants football team, as well as the host of twenty of boxing's most famous fights and three Papal Masses. The stadium's nickname, "The House That Ruth Built" comes from the iconic Babe Ruth, the baseball superstar whose prime years coincided with the beginning of the Yankees' winning history.

Yankee Stadium is one of the most famous venues in the United States, having hosted a variety of events and many historic moments during its existence. Its primary occupants, the Yankees, have won more World Series championships (26) than any other major league club and Yankee Stadium has hosted 37 World Series, more than any other baseball stadium. The Stadium also hosted the major-league All-Star Game four times: 1939, 1960, 1977, and, as part of its curtain call, 2008.

In 2006, the Yankees began construction on a new $1.8 billion stadium in public parkland adjacent to the original Yankee Stadium. The new stadium opened in 2009, and most of the old stadium, including the above-ground structure, is to be demolished to become parkland.[1]

The first game at the stadium was held on April 18, 1923, with the Yankees beating the Boston Red Sox 4–1. The final game at the stadium was held on September 21, 2008, with the Yankees beating the Baltimore Orioles 7–3.

The Stadium was the first facility in North America with three tiers, although the triple deck originally extended only to the left and right field corners. The concrete lower deck extended well into left field, with the obvious intention of extending the upper deck over it, which was accomplished during the 1926–1927 off-season.

Yankee Stadium was the first three-tiered sports facility in the United States and one of the first baseball parks to be given the lasting title of stadium. Baseball teams typically played in a park or a field. The word stadium deliberately evoked ancient Greece, where a stadia was unit of measure—the length of a footrace; the buildings that housed footraces were called stadiums. Yankee Stadium was one of the first to be deliberately designed as a multi-purpose facility. The field was initially surrounded by a (misshapen) quarter-mile (0.4 km) running track, which effectively also served as a warning track for outfielders, a feature now standard on all major league fields. The left and right field bleacher sections were laid out at right angles to each other, and to the third base stands, to be properly positioned for both track-and-field events and football. The large electronic scoreboard in right-center field, featuring both teams' lineups and scores of other baseball games, was the first of its kind.

As Yankee Stadium owed its creation largely to Ruth, its design partially accommodated the game's left-handed-hitting slugger. Initially the fence was 295 feet (90 m) from home plate down the right-field line, referred to as the "short porch", and 350 feet (110 m) to near right field, compared with 490 feet (150 m) to the deepest part of center field, nicknamed Death Valley. The right-field bleachers were appropriately nicknamed "Ruthville." Although the right field fences were eventually pushed back after the 1974-1975 renovations, they were still relatively close to home plate and retained the "short porch" moniker.

Monument Park was an open-air museum that contained the Yankees' retired numbers, as well as a collection of monuments and plaques honoring distinguished members of the New York Yankees. It was located beyond the left-center field fences, near the bullpens.

The origins of Monument Park can be traced to the original three monuments of Lou Gehrig, Miller Huggins, and Babe Ruth that once used to stand in-play in center field. Over the years, the Yankees continued to honor players and personnel with additional monuments and plaques. After the 1974–1975 renovations of Yankee Stadium, the monuments and plaques were moved behind the outfield fences to "Monument Park." A visual collection of retired numbers was soon added to this location. Monument Park remained there until the stadium's closing in 2008; after the new Yankee Stadium opened, the retired numbers, plaques, and monuments were moved into a new Monument Park in the new ballpark.

One of the most distinguishing characteristics of Yankee Stadium is the "facade", a white frieze that runs along the bleacher billboards and scoreboard.

The facade was an addition made by Osborn Engineering, when the owners of the Yankees asked that the stadium be given "an air of dignity".[15] It originally ran around the roof of the grandstand's upper deck. This original facade was copper, although it was painted white in the mid-1960s.

When the stadium was renovated in the 1970s, the upper deck was expanded upwards, and the support columns were removed. Without the columns to support it, the roof had to be scaled back, and the facade was removed. A smaller, concrete version was erected above the scoreboards and billboards behind the bleachers, its current location. In the new stadium, the facade was replicated in its original position along the roof of the upper deck, although now constructed of steel painted white.

The iconic facade is employed in graphics for the YES Network and was incorporated into the logo for the 2008 All-Star Game held at the Stadium.

The term "facade" is actually a misnomer. The scalloped arches are actually a frieze, and it was originally known as such. It is unknown when or where the term "facade" came into use, but it has become the more common name,[15] used by fans, broadcasters, and personnel. With the move to the new stadium, the organization has made a move to return to the term "frieze", exclusively using it in public statements and literature.

When she goes, I'm losing a family member.

Great, great pick. Great, great place. I miss it dearly. Was lucky enough to get there twice ('95 and '99). Best stadium I've ever been too. Bar none. Hands down.Like you, many of my best memories revolve around that Stadium. Unfortunately, unlike you, they are almost all from watching games played there on TV. Boone's homer. Mr. November. PAUL O'NEILL CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP. Scotty Brosius off Kim. Tino's GS against SD in the WS. Jeter's head-first dive. Wells Perfect Game. Cones Perfect Game. Doc's No-no. Boggsy on the Horse. Hayes catching the pop-up. Man, what memories.

I was at Cone's perfect game. And the Knoblauch bonehead play in the playoffs. And game 2 of the 1998 World Series - got a ball from Jim Leyritz.

 

[timschochet]

Hi everyone. I'm back early and I am updating right now. I will comment shortly on the Misfit Blondes situation in another post. But I wanted to say to everyone, great picks (again). I really wanted the Sinatra and debated between that and Snow White Oh well, I'm not unhappy. Yankee, there's something almost mystical about the old Yankee Stadium in American lore. Well done.

So far as Cats goes, i first saw it in the summer of 1983 in London during it's opening run (it was 6 months old); the theatre was in the round. One of the hightlights of my life. I was 16. About three months ago, I took my daughter to see it at the Orange Country Performing Arts Center. One of the Lloyd Webber shows I personally would rank above Phantom- why? Although the latter has a more coherent story, the overall quality of music is better in Cats throughout the show. Phantom suffers from all the great songs being in the first half of the play.

Yet I am also puzzled by this pick, Yankee. With the exception of your first two picks, you have had an American theme throughout, and the rest of us have enjoyed that. Cats is not an American play.

 

[thatguy]

Makeup pick.Going to take the novel I alluded to earlier. It should come as no surprise to those who have read my previous posts on this board.Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pycnhon

I knew it!(I was sooooo close to taking this when I took Herodotus)

I was pretty sure both you and Krista knew this was the novel I was referring to.I'd like to thank both of you for not sniping me.

 

[DCThunder]

24.04--Vietnam Veterans Memorial--Structure

I've been waiting and waiting on taking The Wall, but two days after Memorial Day is the time to take it. The Vietnamn Veterans Memorial honors all members of the US armed forces who fought and died in Southeast Asia during the 1960s and early '70s. It lists the names of every service member who died in theatre in chronological order. It is a place of pilgramage for survivors of the War and the families and loved ones of those who died. Built in 1982 it was designed by a young architecture student at Yale who won a major design competition. The design was highly controversial and led to the inclusion of a statue of 3 soldiers (one white, one black, one hispanic) in fatigues and boonie caps carrying full weapons and looking like they just survived a firefight with Charlie or the NVA in Indian Country. Later additions included a memorial to Army nurses who served in The Nam.

The epicenter of Rolling Thunder every Memorial Day, anyone who is of a certain age must go to The Wall when in Washington. Many leave momentos (dog tags, photos, flowers, etc) at near the name of the loved one on The Wall. Far from being a "scar" or a "gash in the earth" as it was called at the time it was built, The Wall has become a place of healing of a country divided over a distant war.

God Bless all who served and those who didn't come home again.

 

[flysack]

24.05 Animal Farm (non fiction)

This is a novel.

Error here, right?ETA: great pick, btw.

 

[TidesofWar]

Was it decided there is a bonus or consideration for attempted draft themes???

As for the picks, Animal Farm

I think the Baseball, Football, and Yankee Stadium picks are near the bottom of "Great Works"

I also like the Sydney Opera House selection

 

[Postradamus]

tim, best advise here. let him take wrestletime. he awnts wrestletime and hes gotta have wrestletime. give him da wrestyletime, we have a good time. everything fine./

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Hi everyone. I'm back early and I am updating right now. I will comment shortly on the Misfit Blondes situation in another post. But I wanted to say to everyone, great picks (again). I really wanted the Sinatra and debated between that and Snow White Oh well, I'm not unhappy. Yankee, there's something almost mystical about the old Yankee Stadium in American lore. Well done.

So far as Cats goes, i first saw it in the summer of 1983 in London during it's opening run (it was 6 months old); the theatre was in the round. One of the hightlights of my life. I was 16. About three months ago, I took my daughter to see it at the Orange Country Performing Arts Center. One of the Lloyd Webber shows I personally would rank above Phantom- why? Although the latter has a more coherent story, the overall quality of music is better in Cats throughout the show. Phantom suffers from all the great songs being in the first half of the play.

Yet I am also puzzled by this pick, Yankee. With the exception of your first two picks, you have had an American theme throughout, and the rest of us have enjoyed that. Cats is not an American play.

It's the second longest running show in New York. That was the connection to me. Although I know what you mean and save my next play pick which I already have a write up for, the final three are all very very American.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

24.04--Vietnam Veterans Memorial--Structure

I've been waiting and waiting on taking The Wall, but two days after Memorial Day is the time to take it. The Vietnamn Veterans Memorial honors all members of the US armed forces who fought and died in Southeast Asia during the 1960s and early '70s. It lists the names of every service member who died in theatre in chronological order. It is a place of pilgramage for survivors of the War and the families and loved ones of those who died. Built in 1982 it was designed by a young architecture student at Yale who won a major design competition. The design was highly controversial and led to the inclusion of a statue of 3 soldiers (one white, one black, one hispanic) in fatigues and boonie caps carrying full weapons and looking like they just survived a firefight with Charlie or the NVA in Indian Country. Later additions included a memorial to Army nurses who served in The Nam.

The epicenter of Rolling Thunder every Memorial Day, anyone who is of a certain age must go to The Wall when in Washington. Many leave momentos (dog tags, photos, flowers, etc) at near the name of the loved one on The Wall. Far from being a "scar" or a "gash in the earth" as it was called at the time it was built, The Wall has become a place of healing of a country divided over a distant war.

God Bless all who served and those who didn't come home again.

Solid pick.

 

[flysack]

Postradamus - 1

People With Panties in a Bunch - 0

 

[rodg12]

I will end the 23rd round with the single most important pick to me personally void of all the important stuff in life like politics and history.

No, this pick is all heart. All my soul. Everything that I remember that was good about my childhood, about my family, about life. It is a structure that was the greatest of them all, and while I understand that two others would like to make that claim, I disagree. No, this was the greatest ever. It always will be. It is a building that has a place in my heart unlike any other, and as it is doomed to be demolished, a part of me will die with it. It had already been replaced. Structurewise. It will never be replaced to me. Just succeeded in use. The best memories of my father took place there. And I was lucky enough to get my son to see it, and share the greatness and majesty with him, before it will be lost forever to the wrecking ball and parking lots that await it. No great building deserves that fate, whether by development or war or time, yet sadly they all have or will.

I select, The Original Yankee Stadium .

The original Yankee Stadium is a stadium located in The Bronx in New York City, New York. It served as the home baseball park of Major League Baseball's New York Yankees from 1923 to 1973 and after extensive renovations, from 1976 to 2008. Located at East 161st Street and River Avenue, the stadium has a capacity of 57,545 and hosted 6,581 Yankees regular season home games during its 85-year history. It was also the former home of the New York Giants football team, as well as the host of twenty of boxing's most famous fights and three Papal Masses. The stadium's nickname, "The House That Ruth Built" comes from the iconic Babe Ruth, the baseball superstar whose prime years coincided with the beginning of the Yankees' winning history.

Yankee Stadium is one of the most famous venues in the United States, having hosted a variety of events and many historic moments during its existence. Its primary occupants, the Yankees, have won more World Series championships (26) than any other major league club and Yankee Stadium has hosted 37 World Series, more than any other baseball stadium. The Stadium also hosted the major-league All-Star Game four times: 1939, 1960, 1977, and, as part of its curtain call, 2008.

In 2006, the Yankees began construction on a new $1.8 billion stadium in public parkland adjacent to the original Yankee Stadium. The new stadium opened in 2009, and most of the old stadium, including the above-ground structure, is to be demolished to become parkland.[1]

The first game at the stadium was held on April 18, 1923, with the Yankees beating the Boston Red Sox 4–1. The final game at the stadium was held on September 21, 2008, with the Yankees beating the Baltimore Orioles 7–3.

The Stadium was the first facility in North America with three tiers, although the triple deck originally extended only to the left and right field corners. The concrete lower deck extended well into left field, with the obvious intention of extending the upper deck over it, which was accomplished during the 1926–1927 off-season.

Yankee Stadium was the first three-tiered sports facility in the United States and one of the first baseball parks to be given the lasting title of stadium. Baseball teams typically played in a park or a field. The word stadium deliberately evoked ancient Greece, where a stadia was unit of measure—the length of a footrace; the buildings that housed footraces were called stadiums. Yankee Stadium was one of the first to be deliberately designed as a multi-purpose facility. The field was initially surrounded by a (misshapen) quarter-mile (0.4 km) running track, which effectively also served as a warning track for outfielders, a feature now standard on all major league fields. The left and right field bleacher sections were laid out at right angles to each other, and to the third base stands, to be properly positioned for both track-and-field events and football. The large electronic scoreboard in right-center field, featuring both teams' lineups and scores of other baseball games, was the first of its kind.

As Yankee Stadium owed its creation largely to Ruth, its design partially accommodated the game's left-handed-hitting slugger. Initially the fence was 295 feet (90 m) from home plate down the right-field line, referred to as the "short porch", and 350 feet (110 m) to near right field, compared with 490 feet (150 m) to the deepest part of center field, nicknamed Death Valley. The right-field bleachers were appropriately nicknamed "Ruthville." Although the right field fences were eventually pushed back after the 1974-1975 renovations, they were still relatively close to home plate and retained the "short porch" moniker.

Monument Park was an open-air museum that contained the Yankees' retired numbers, as well as a collection of monuments and plaques honoring distinguished members of the New York Yankees. It was located beyond the left-center field fences, near the bullpens.

The origins of Monument Park can be traced to the original three monuments of Lou Gehrig, Miller Huggins, and Babe Ruth that once used to stand in-play in center field. Over the years, the Yankees continued to honor players and personnel with additional monuments and plaques. After the 1974–1975 renovations of Yankee Stadium, the monuments and plaques were moved behind the outfield fences to "Monument Park." A visual collection of retired numbers was soon added to this location. Monument Park remained there until the stadium's closing in 2008; after the new Yankee Stadium opened, the retired numbers, plaques, and monuments were moved into a new Monument Park in the new ballpark.

One of the most distinguishing characteristics of Yankee Stadium is the "facade", a white frieze that runs along the bleacher billboards and scoreboard.

The facade was an addition made by Osborn Engineering, when the owners of the Yankees asked that the stadium be given "an air of dignity".[15] It originally ran around the roof of the grandstand's upper deck. This original facade was copper, although it was painted white in the mid-1960s.

When the stadium was renovated in the 1970s, the upper deck was expanded upwards, and the support columns were removed. Without the columns to support it, the roof had to be scaled back, and the facade was removed. A smaller, concrete version was erected above the scoreboards and billboards behind the bleachers, its current location. In the new stadium, the facade was replicated in its original position along the roof of the upper deck, although now constructed of steel painted white.

The iconic facade is employed in graphics for the YES Network and was incorporated into the logo for the 2008 All-Star Game held at the Stadium.

The term "facade" is actually a misnomer. The scalloped arches are actually a frieze, and it was originally known as such. It is unknown when or where the term "facade" came into use, but it has become the more common name,[15] used by fans, broadcasters, and personnel. With the move to the new stadium, the organization has made a move to return to the term "frieze", exclusively using it in public statements and literature.

When she goes, I'm losing a family member.

Great, great pick. Great, great place. I miss it dearly. Was lucky enough to get there twice ('95 and '99). Best stadium I've ever been too. Bar none. Hands down.Like you, many of my best memories revolve around that Stadium. Unfortunately, unlike you, they are almost all from watching games played there on TV. Boone's homer. Mr. November. PAUL O'NEILL CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP. Scotty Brosius off Kim. Tino's GS against SD in the WS. Jeter's head-first dive. Wells Perfect Game. Cones Perfect Game. Doc's No-no. Boggsy on the Horse. Hayes catching the pop-up. Man, what memories.

I was at Cone's perfect game. And the Knoblauch bonehead play in the playoffs. And game 2 of the 1998 World Series - got a ball from Jim Leyritz.

 

[Postradamus]

tim, best advise here. let him take wrestletime. he awnts wrestletime and hes gotta have wrestletime. give him da wrestyletime, we have a good time. everything fine./

Did I mention how super your team is?

its like that.flatery will get you everywhere people. rememeeber, i'm judging two categories.

 

[Bob Lee Swagger]

24.06? - I Ching - Non-Fiction

I swear, this thing always gets back to me while I'm away from the computer. Picking remotely, write-up coming later tonight.

 

[El Floppo]

24.06? - I Ching - Non-FictionI swear, this thing always gets back to me while I'm away from the computer. Picking remotely, write-up coming later tonight.

Really thought this was taken by WP a long, long time ago.... let's throw the coins and find out!

 

[Bonzai]

24.06? - I Ching - Non-FictionI swear, this thing always gets back to me while I'm away from the computer. Picking remotely, write-up coming later tonight.

Really thought this was taken by WP a long, long time ago.... let's throw the coins and find out!

He took the Tao Te Ching.

 

[northern exposure]

Postradamus - 1People With Panties in a Bunch - 0

Rumour has it my associate isn't wearing any panties.

That is sexier than a fringe on a skirt!

 

[thatguy]

I need some serious help drafting compositions. Anyone care to help a brother out?

 

[Postradamus]

Love LOTF. best pick since wrestletime.

 

[krista4]

We're going back to the album category, and we're staying in Detroit. Like "Respect" before it, this album is a top 5-10 pick by any criteria you'd like to use. When El Floppo picked the title track 5 rounds ago for the song category, I figured the album would very shortly follow. Luckily for Gene/Bonzai, it's still here 5 rounds later. Widely regarded as one of the top albums of all time, it's easily the masterpiece of one of the most definitive male vocalists in US history. Complete with a three octave range and fueled by an anger at what he was watching happen in the late 1960's, Marvin Gaye wrote, recorded, and produced an iconic piece of American art. Tackling the themes of the day - racial injustices, the Vietnam War, urban living conditions - with an unmatched passion and beauty of voice, it's beautiful, beautiful work of art framed like so much great art is by the artist's own demons.

24.03 - What's Going On - Marvin Gaye - Album

1. "What's Going On" (Al Cleveland, Marvin Gaye, Renaldo Benson) – 3:53

2. "What's Happening Brother" (James Nyx, M. Gaye) – 2:43

3. "Flyin' High (In the Friendly Sky)" (M. Gaye, Anna Gordy Gaye, Elgie Stover) – 3:49

4. "Save the Children" (Cleveland, M. Gaye, Benson) – 4:03

5. "God Is Love" (M. Gaye, A. Gaye, Stover, Nyx) – 1:41

6. "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)" (M. Gaye) – 3:16

7. "Right On" (Earl DeRouen, M. Gaye) – 7:31

8. "Wholy Holy" (Benson, Cleveland, M. Gaye) – 3:08

9. "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" (M. Gaye, Nyx) – 5:26

And with What's Going On next to Pet Sounds, we're quite pleased with our album section.

I wavered between this and Highway 61 Revisited. I have GWD envy of your album selections.

 

[TidesofWar]

Was it decided there is a bonus or consideration for attempted draft themes??? As for the picks, Animal Farm I think the Baseball, Football, and Yankee Stadium picks are near the bottom of "Great Works"I also like the Sydney Opera House selection

 

[timschochet]

OK, this message is for Misfit Blondes. I prefer to do it here so everyone can read it- I don't want to hide anything.

Misfit Blondes, when you drafted "The Immaculate Reception" as a play, your major complaint was that I didn't explain my rejection of it. As I wrote, the reason I hesitated to do so at the time was because I respected you too much to believe you would need a detailed explanation. But after you kept it up for a full day, I finally relented and did explain it to you, and you accepted it and moved on.

When you drafted "Wrestlemania" I sought to avoid my previous possible error and immediately explained why I would not accept it, again in great detail. I gave you a chance to appeal, which you refused. Instead you began to insult me here openly. As in the previous pick, other people came in here to insult me as well. Perhaps they know you, perhaps they don't; I have no opinion on that. Though you did not appeal, Krista and Doug weighed in anyhow. Krista said she would accept it if you would choose one episode; I'm assuming she was having fun with this. Doug B upheld my rejection.

Now, I must intervene here with a comment in response to those who have questioned in the last day, why don't I just accept Misfit Blondes' pick here and simply give it a terrible ranking? The answer is that if I do so, it will open the door to more picks that I personally regard as ludicrous, and the draft that so many of us have put so much effort into would collapse into a rather silly joke. I fully realize there are people reading this who probably regard this sort of thing as a joke already. But I don't, and I don't think most of the other drafters do, either.

Misfit Blondes' response to this final rejection was to simply ignore it and to continue to insult me. He insists that (1) he will keep the pick (2) he will ignore this ruling and all of my future rulings (3) and he will ignore my judging of the plays category. I can only logically assume that Misfit Blondes is intent on (a) disrupting the draft (b) causing me to quit, or © both. In the meantime, several other drafters have now called for Misfit Blondes to be kicked out of the draft. As commissioner, that has always been my decision. But I am reluctant to do it. Several of Misfit Blondes' picks have been worthy and deserve consideration, just as he deserves consideration for making them.

Here is what I propose instead: Misfit Blondes, obviously you have a problem with me; that's fine, I can ignore that. I am asking you now in the name of the effort that you have put into this to put aside your current position, accept the veto, accept my evaluations, and stay in the draft. I'm not going to argue with you about it. If your response is as before that you refuse to do so, that you plan on ignoring me, then I will insist on you leaving the draft immediately. The choice is yours; I am not going to discuss it with you. If you believe that I have wronged you in the past, then I apologize for that. I forgive you for anything you might have written negatively about me. I urge you to join me in forgetting about this, moving on, and having fun. It's completely up to you; I await your response.

 

[krista4]

I will end the 23rd round with the single most important pick to me personally void of all the important stuff in life like politics and history.

No, this pick is all heart. All my soul. Everything that I remember that was good about my childhood, about my family, about life. It is a structure that was the greatest of them all, and while I understand that two others would like to make that claim, I disagree. No, this was the greatest ever. It always will be. It is a building that has a place in my heart unlike any other, and as it is doomed to be demolished, a part of me will die with it. It had already been replaced. Structurewise. It will never be replaced to me. Just succeeded in use. The best memories of my father took place there. And I was lucky enough to get my son to see it, and share the greatness and majesty with him, before it will be lost forever to the wrecking ball and parking lots that await it. No great building deserves that fate, whether by development or war or time, yet sadly they all have or will.

I select, The Original Yankee Stadium .

The original Yankee Stadium is a stadium located in The Bronx in New York City, New York. It served as the home baseball park of Major League Baseball's New York Yankees from 1923 to 1973 and after extensive renovations, from 1976 to 2008. Located at East 161st Street and River Avenue, the stadium has a capacity of 57,545 and hosted 6,581 Yankees regular season home games during its 85-year history. It was also the former home of the New York Giants football team, as well as the host of twenty of boxing's most famous fights and three Papal Masses. The stadium's nickname, "The House That Ruth Built" comes from the iconic Babe Ruth, the baseball superstar whose prime years coincided with the beginning of the Yankees' winning history.

Yankee Stadium is one of the most famous venues in the United States, having hosted a variety of events and many historic moments during its existence. Its primary occupants, the Yankees, have won more World Series championships (26) than any other major league club and Yankee Stadium has hosted 37 World Series, more than any other baseball stadium. The Stadium also hosted the major-league All-Star Game four times: 1939, 1960, 1977, and, as part of its curtain call, 2008.

In 2006, the Yankees began construction on a new $1.8 billion stadium in public parkland adjacent to the original Yankee Stadium. The new stadium opened in 2009, and most of the old stadium, including the above-ground structure, is to be demolished to become parkland.[1]

The first game at the stadium was held on April 18, 1923, with the Yankees beating the Boston Red Sox 4–1. The final game at the stadium was held on September 21, 2008, with the Yankees beating the Baltimore Orioles 7–3.

The Stadium was the first facility in North America with three tiers, although the triple deck originally extended only to the left and right field corners. The concrete lower deck extended well into left field, with the obvious intention of extending the upper deck over it, which was accomplished during the 1926–1927 off-season.

Yankee Stadium was the first three-tiered sports facility in the United States and one of the first baseball parks to be given the lasting title of stadium. Baseball teams typically played in a park or a field. The word stadium deliberately evoked ancient Greece, where a stadia was unit of measure—the length of a footrace; the buildings that housed footraces were called stadiums. Yankee Stadium was one of the first to be deliberately designed as a multi-purpose facility. The field was initially surrounded by a (misshapen) quarter-mile (0.4 km) running track, which effectively also served as a warning track for outfielders, a feature now standard on all major league fields. The left and right field bleacher sections were laid out at right angles to each other, and to the third base stands, to be properly positioned for both track-and-field events and football. The large electronic scoreboard in right-center field, featuring both teams' lineups and scores of other baseball games, was the first of its kind.

As Yankee Stadium owed its creation largely to Ruth, its design partially accommodated the game's left-handed-hitting slugger. Initially the fence was 295 feet (90 m) from home plate down the right-field line, referred to as the "short porch", and 350 feet (110 m) to near right field, compared with 490 feet (150 m) to the deepest part of center field, nicknamed Death Valley. The right-field bleachers were appropriately nicknamed "Ruthville." Although the right field fences were eventually pushed back after the 1974-1975 renovations, they were still relatively close to home plate and retained the "short porch" moniker.

Monument Park was an open-air museum that contained the Yankees' retired numbers, as well as a collection of monuments and plaques honoring distinguished members of the New York Yankees. It was located beyond the left-center field fences, near the bullpens.

The origins of Monument Park can be traced to the original three monuments of Lou Gehrig, Miller Huggins, and Babe Ruth that once used to stand in-play in center field. Over the years, the Yankees continued to honor players and personnel with additional monuments and plaques. After the 1974–1975 renovations of Yankee Stadium, the monuments and plaques were moved behind the outfield fences to "Monument Park." A visual collection of retired numbers was soon added to this location. Monument Park remained there until the stadium's closing in 2008; after the new Yankee Stadium opened, the retired numbers, plaques, and monuments were moved into a new Monument Park in the new ballpark.

One of the most distinguishing characteristics of Yankee Stadium is the "facade", a white frieze that runs along the bleacher billboards and scoreboard.

The facade was an addition made by Osborn Engineering, when the owners of the Yankees asked that the stadium be given "an air of dignity".[15] It originally ran around the roof of the grandstand's upper deck. This original facade was copper, although it was painted white in the mid-1960s.

When the stadium was renovated in the 1970s, the upper deck was expanded upwards, and the support columns were removed. Without the columns to support it, the roof had to be scaled back, and the facade was removed. A smaller, concrete version was erected above the scoreboards and billboards behind the bleachers, its current location. In the new stadium, the facade was replicated in its original position along the roof of the upper deck, although now constructed of steel painted white.

The iconic facade is employed in graphics for the YES Network and was incorporated into the logo for the 2008 All-Star Game held at the Stadium.

The term "facade" is actually a misnomer. The scalloped arches are actually a frieze, and it was originally known as such. It is unknown when or where the term "facade" came into use, but it has become the more common name,[15] used by fans, broadcasters, and personnel. With the move to the new stadium, the organization has made a move to return to the term "frieze", exclusively using it in public statements and literature.

When she goes, I'm losing a family member.

I almost sniped you a few rounds ago. But I knew you'd want this on your team, so I decided not to. Nice pick.

See, and then karma rewarded you by my purposefully not sniping you on Gravity's Rainbow. Hear that, Abrantes? Karma.

 

[TidesofWar]

We're going back to the album category, and we're staying in Detroit. Like "Respect" before it, this album is a top 5-10 pick by any criteria you'd like to use. When El Floppo picked the title track 5 rounds ago for the song category, I figured the album would very shortly follow. Luckily for Gene/Bonzai, it's still here 5 rounds later. Widely regarded as one of the top albums of all time, it's easily the masterpiece of one of the most definitive male vocalists in US history. Complete with a three octave range and fueled by an anger at what he was watching happen in the late 1960's, Marvin Gaye wrote, recorded, and produced an iconic piece of American art. Tackling the themes of the day - racial injustices, the Vietnam War, urban living conditions - with an unmatched passion and beauty of voice, it's beautiful, beautiful work of art framed like so much great art is by the artist's own demons.

24.03 - What's Going On - Marvin Gaye - Album

1. "What's Going On" (Al Cleveland, Marvin Gaye, Renaldo Benson) – 3:53

2. "What's Happening Brother" (James Nyx, M. Gaye) – 2:43

3. "Flyin' High (In the Friendly Sky)" (M. Gaye, Anna Gordy Gaye, Elgie Stover) – 3:49

4. "Save the Children" (Cleveland, M. Gaye, Benson) – 4:03

5. "God Is Love" (M. Gaye, A. Gaye, Stover, Nyx) – 1:41

6. "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)" (M. Gaye) – 3:16

7. "Right On" (Earl DeRouen, M. Gaye) – 7:31

8. "Wholy Holy" (Benson, Cleveland, M. Gaye) – 3:08

9. "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" (M. Gaye, Nyx) – 5:26

And with What's Going On next to Pet Sounds, we're quite pleased with our album section.

I wavered between this and Highway 61 Revisited. I have GWD envy of your album selections.

Why?? Albums are subjective in the extreme?? There are a few recognized giants for certain reasons, but lots of extremely choice-worthy albums in all types of music.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

I need some serious help drafting compositions. Anyone care to help a brother out?

pm me

 

[krista4]

24.05 Animal Farm (non fiction)

This is a novel. The short novel is dystopian allegory in which animals play the roles of the Bolshevik revolutionaries[4] and overthrow and oust the human owner of a farm (Manor Farm), renaming it Animal Farm and setting it up as a commune in which, at first, all animals are equal; however, class and status disparities soon emerge between the different animal species (the pigs being the "more equal species"). The novel describes how a society's ideologies can be manipulated and twisted by those in positions of social and political power, including how Utopian society is made impossible by the corrupting nature of the very power necessary to create it.

The novel addresses not only the corruption of the revolution by its leaders but also how wickedness, indifference, ignorance, greed and myopia destroy any possibility of a Utopia. While this novel portrays corrupt leadership as the flaw in revolution (and not the act of revolution itself), it also shows how potential ignorance and indifference to problems within a revolution could allow horrors to happen if smooth transition to a people's government isn't satisfied. This was based on a true story of what the animals might well have done while the farmers weren't looking.

Better than 1984, IMO.

 

[krista4]

OK, this message is for Misfit Blondes. I prefer to do it here so everyone can read it- I don't want to hide anything.

Misfit Blondes, when you drafted "The Immaculate Reception" as a play, your major complaint was that I didn't explain my rejection of it. As I wrote, the reason I hesitated to do so at the time was because I respected you too much to believe you would need a detailed explanation. But after you kept it up for a full day, I finally relented and did explain it to you, and you accepted it and moved on.

When you drafted "Wrestlemania" I sought to avoid my previous possible error and immediately explained why I would not accept it, again in great detail. I gave you a chance to appeal, which you refused. Instead you began to insult me here openly. As in the previous pick, other people came in here to insult me as well. Perhaps they know you, perhaps they don't; I have no opinion on that. Though you did not appeal, Krista and Doug weighed in anyhow. Krista said she would accept it if you would choose one episode; I'm assuming she was having fun with this. Doug B upheld my rejection.

Now, I must intervene here with a comment in response to those who have questioned in the last day, why don't I just accept Misfit Blondes' pick here and simply give it a terrible ranking? The answer is that if I do so, it will open the door to more picks that I personally regard as ludicrous, and the draft that so many of us have put so much effort into would collapse into a rather silly joke. I fully realize there are people reading this who probably regard this sort of thing as a joke already. But I don't, and I don't think most of the other drafters do, either.

Misfit Blondes' response to this final rejection was to simply ignore it and to continue to insult me. He insists that (1) he will keep the pick (2) he will ignore this ruling and all of my future rulings (3) and he will ignore my judging of the plays category. I can only logically assume that Misfit Blondes is intent on (a) disrupting the draft (b) causing me to quit, or © both. In the meantime, several other drafters have now called for Misfit Blondes to be kicked out of the draft. As commissioner, that has always been my decision. But I am reluctant to do it. Several of Misfit Blondes' picks have been worthy and deserve consideration, just as he deserves consideration for making them.

Here is what I propose instead: Misfit Blondes, obviously you have a problem with me; that's fine, I can ignore that. I am asking you now in the name of the effort that you have put into this to put aside your current position, accept the veto, accept my evaluations, and stay in the draft. I'm not going to argue with you about it. If your response is as before that you refuse to do so, that you plan on ignoring me, then I will insist on you leaving the draft immediately. The choice is yours; I am not going to discuss it with you. If you believe that I have wronged you in the past, then I apologize for that. I forgive you for anything you might have written negatively about me. I urge you to join me in forgetting about this, moving on, and having fun. It's completely up to you; I await your response.

I don't have time to read all this before running out for dinner, but the bold is ridiculous, and you should explain yourself. Having fun in what way? I'll reply to whatever insane response you have by the time I get back. Probably was not best to say this about someone who's had your back. Perhaps, I hope, I'm misreading.

 

[TidesofWar]

I need some serious help drafting compositions. Anyone care to help a brother out?

pm me

Collusion

 

[thatguy]

I will end the 23rd round with the single most important pick to me personally void of all the important stuff in life like politics and history.

No, this pick is all heart. All my soul. Everything that I remember that was good about my childhood, about my family, about life. It is a structure that was the greatest of them all, and while I understand that two others would like to make that claim, I disagree. No, this was the greatest ever. It always will be. It is a building that has a place in my heart unlike any other, and as it is doomed to be demolished, a part of me will die with it. It had already been replaced. Structurewise. It will never be replaced to me. Just succeeded in use. The best memories of my father took place there. And I was lucky enough to get my son to see it, and share the greatness and majesty with him, before it will be lost forever to the wrecking ball and parking lots that await it. No great building deserves that fate, whether by development or war or time, yet sadly they all have or will.

I select, The Original Yankee Stadium .

The original Yankee Stadium is a stadium located in The Bronx in New York City, New York. It served as the home baseball park of Major League Baseball's New York Yankees from 1923 to 1973 and after extensive renovations, from 1976 to 2008. Located at East 161st Street and River Avenue, the stadium has a capacity of 57,545 and hosted 6,581 Yankees regular season home games during its 85-year history. It was also the former home of the New York Giants football team, as well as the host of twenty of boxing's most famous fights and three Papal Masses. The stadium's nickname, "The House That Ruth Built" comes from the iconic Babe Ruth, the baseball superstar whose prime years coincided with the beginning of the Yankees' winning history.

Yankee Stadium is one of the most famous venues in the United States, having hosted a variety of events and many historic moments during its existence. Its primary occupants, the Yankees, have won more World Series championships (26) than any other major league club and Yankee Stadium has hosted 37 World Series, more than any other baseball stadium. The Stadium also hosted the major-league All-Star Game four times: 1939, 1960, 1977, and, as part of its curtain call, 2008.

In 2006, the Yankees began construction on a new $1.8 billion stadium in public parkland adjacent to the original Yankee Stadium. The new stadium opened in 2009, and most of the old stadium, including the above-ground structure, is to be demolished to become parkland.[1]

The first game at the stadium was held on April 18, 1923, with the Yankees beating the Boston Red Sox 4–1. The final game at the stadium was held on September 21, 2008, with the Yankees beating the Baltimore Orioles 7–3.

The Stadium was the first facility in North America with three tiers, although the triple deck originally extended only to the left and right field corners. The concrete lower deck extended well into left field, with the obvious intention of extending the upper deck over it, which was accomplished during the 1926–1927 off-season.

Yankee Stadium was the first three-tiered sports facility in the United States and one of the first baseball parks to be given the lasting title of stadium. Baseball teams typically played in a park or a field. The word stadium deliberately evoked ancient Greece, where a stadia was unit of measure—the length of a footrace; the buildings that housed footraces were called stadiums. Yankee Stadium was one of the first to be deliberately designed as a multi-purpose facility. The field was initially surrounded by a (misshapen) quarter-mile (0.4 km) running track, which effectively also served as a warning track for outfielders, a feature now standard on all major league fields. The left and right field bleacher sections were laid out at right angles to each other, and to the third base stands, to be properly positioned for both track-and-field events and football. The large electronic scoreboard in right-center field, featuring both teams' lineups and scores of other baseball games, was the first of its kind.

As Yankee Stadium owed its creation largely to Ruth, its design partially accommodated the game's left-handed-hitting slugger. Initially the fence was 295 feet (90 m) from home plate down the right-field line, referred to as the "short porch", and 350 feet (110 m) to near right field, compared with 490 feet (150 m) to the deepest part of center field, nicknamed Death Valley. The right-field bleachers were appropriately nicknamed "Ruthville." Although the right field fences were eventually pushed back after the 1974-1975 renovations, they were still relatively close to home plate and retained the "short porch" moniker.

Monument Park was an open-air museum that contained the Yankees' retired numbers, as well as a collection of monuments and plaques honoring distinguished members of the New York Yankees. It was located beyond the left-center field fences, near the bullpens.

The origins of Monument Park can be traced to the original three monuments of Lou Gehrig, Miller Huggins, and Babe Ruth that once used to stand in-play in center field. Over the years, the Yankees continued to honor players and personnel with additional monuments and plaques. After the 1974–1975 renovations of Yankee Stadium, the monuments and plaques were moved behind the outfield fences to "Monument Park." A visual collection of retired numbers was soon added to this location. Monument Park remained there until the stadium's closing in 2008; after the new Yankee Stadium opened, the retired numbers, plaques, and monuments were moved into a new Monument Park in the new ballpark.

One of the most distinguishing characteristics of Yankee Stadium is the "facade", a white frieze that runs along the bleacher billboards and scoreboard.

The facade was an addition made by Osborn Engineering, when the owners of the Yankees asked that the stadium be given "an air of dignity".[15] It originally ran around the roof of the grandstand's upper deck. This original facade was copper, although it was painted white in the mid-1960s.

When the stadium was renovated in the 1970s, the upper deck was expanded upwards, and the support columns were removed. Without the columns to support it, the roof had to be scaled back, and the facade was removed. A smaller, concrete version was erected above the scoreboards and billboards behind the bleachers, its current location. In the new stadium, the facade was replicated in its original position along the roof of the upper deck, although now constructed of steel painted white.

The iconic facade is employed in graphics for the YES Network and was incorporated into the logo for the 2008 All-Star Game held at the Stadium.

The term "facade" is actually a misnomer. The scalloped arches are actually a frieze, and it was originally known as such. It is unknown when or where the term "facade" came into use, but it has become the more common name,[15] used by fans, broadcasters, and personnel. With the move to the new stadium, the organization has made a move to return to the term "frieze", exclusively using it in public statements and literature.

When she goes, I'm losing a family member.

I almost sniped you a few rounds ago. But I knew you'd want this on your team, so I decided not to. Nice pick.

See, and then karma rewarded you by my purposefully not sniping you on Gravity's Rainbow. Hear that, Abrantes? Karma.

 

[thatguy]

I need some serious help drafting compositions. Anyone care to help a brother out?

pm me

Collusion

You know it, sucka.

 

[krista4]

We're going back to the album category, and we're staying in Detroit. Like "Respect" before it, this album is a top 5-10 pick by any criteria you'd like to use. When El Floppo picked the title track 5 rounds ago for the song category, I figured the album would very shortly follow. Luckily for Gene/Bonzai, it's still here 5 rounds later. Widely regarded as one of the top albums of all time, it's easily the masterpiece of one of the most definitive male vocalists in US history. Complete with a three octave range and fueled by an anger at what he was watching happen in the late 1960's, Marvin Gaye wrote, recorded, and produced an iconic piece of American art. Tackling the themes of the day - racial injustices, the Vietnam War, urban living conditions - with an unmatched passion and beauty of voice, it's beautiful, beautiful work of art framed like so much great art is by the artist's own demons.

24.03 - What's Going On - Marvin Gaye - Album

1. "What's Going On" (Al Cleveland, Marvin Gaye, Renaldo Benson) – 3:53

2. "What's Happening Brother" (James Nyx, M. Gaye) – 2:43

3. "Flyin' High (In the Friendly Sky)" (M. Gaye, Anna Gordy Gaye, Elgie Stover) – 3:49

4. "Save the Children" (Cleveland, M. Gaye, Benson) – 4:03

5. "God Is Love" (M. Gaye, A. Gaye, Stover, Nyx) – 1:41

6. "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)" (M. Gaye) – 3:16

7. "Right On" (Earl DeRouen, M. Gaye) – 7:31

8. "Wholy Holy" (Benson, Cleveland, M. Gaye) – 3:08

9. "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" (M. Gaye, Nyx) – 5:26

And with What's Going On next to Pet Sounds, we're quite pleased with our album section.

I wavered between this and Highway 61 Revisited. I have GWD envy of your album selections.

Why?? Albums are subjective in the extreme?? There are a few recognized giants for certain reasons, but lots of extremely choice-worthy albums in all types of music.

Seems pretty obvious--the same reason people are upset to miss out on their favorite novels, paintings, etc. Pet Sounds is one of my top five favorites of all time, and What's Going On is top ten.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

24.08 The Interpretation of Dreams [Die Traumdeutung] - Sigmund Freud (Non-Fiction)

Published in 1900, translated into English 1913. Trained as a doctor, Freud soon began investigating the use of hypnosis in the treatment of hysteria. This marked the beginnings of psychoanalysis as we know it today. With further refinement into free association which allows emotionally charged material that the individual had repressed in his unconscious to emerge to conscious recognition.

It has had enormous influence in psychiatry, psychology, literary interpretation, history, art, biography, and cinema. Apart from its influence, The Interpretation of Dreams is of great importance because of the book’s development of Freud’s theory of dreams and because it contains the first systematic discussion of what many regard as his greatest discovery: the unconscious mind.

Whether we love or hate Sigmund Freud, we all have to admit that he revolutionized the way we think about ourselves. Much of this revolution can be traced to The Interpretation of Dreams, the turn-of-the-century tour de force that outlined his theory of unconscious forces in the context of dream analysis. Introducing the id, the superego, and their problem child, the ego, Freud advanced scientific understanding of the mind immeasurably by exposing motivations normally invisible to our consciousness. While there's no question that his own biases and neuroses influenced his observations, the details are less important than the paradigm shift as a whole. After Freud, our interior lives became richer and vastly more mysterious.

These mysteries clearly bothered him--he went to great (often absurd) lengths to explain dream imagery in terms of childhood sexual trauma, a component of his theory jettisoned mid-century, though now popular among recovered-memory therapists. His dispassionate analyses of his own dreams are excellent studies for cognitive scientists wishing to learn how to sacrifice their vanities for the cause of learning. Freud said of the work contained in The Interpretation of Dreams, "Insight such as this falls to one's lot but once in a lifetime." One would have to feel quite fortunate to shake the world even once.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

24.05 Animal Farm (non fiction)

This is a novel. The short novel is dystopian allegory in which animals play the roles of the Bolshevik revolutionaries[4] and overthrow and oust the human owner of a farm (Manor Farm), renaming it Animal Farm and setting it up as a commune in which, at first, all animals are equal; however, class and status disparities soon emerge between the different animal species (the pigs being the "more equal species"). The novel describes how a society's ideologies can be manipulated and twisted by those in positions of social and political power, including how Utopian society is made impossible by the corrupting nature of the very power necessary to create it.

The novel addresses not only the corruption of the revolution by its leaders but also how wickedness, indifference, ignorance, greed and myopia destroy any possibility of a Utopia. While this novel portrays corrupt leadership as the flaw in revolution (and not the act of revolution itself), it also shows how potential ignorance and indifference to problems within a revolution could allow horrors to happen if smooth transition to a people's government isn't satisfied. This was based on a true story of what the animals might well have done while the farmers weren't looking.

Better than 1984, IMO.

 

[rodg12]

22.07 - Misfit Blondes (repick needed)

Skipped

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

23.12 - Team CIA (autoskip)

23.19 - Tirnan (autoskip if not here in first 5)

24.02 - Tirnan (autoskip if not here in first 5)

24.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)

24.10 - El Floppo Up

24.11 - Thatguy On Deck

24.12 - Wikkidpissah In The Hole

24.13 - Tides of War

24.14 - BobbyLayne

24.15 - Abrantes

24.16 - Doug B

24.17 - Timschochet

24.18 - Postradamus

24.19 - Rodg

24.20 - Fennis

 

[Postradamus]

we are CRUISING

 

[timschochet]

OK, this message is for Misfit Blondes. I prefer to do it here so everyone can read it- I don't want to hide anything.

Misfit Blondes, when you drafted "The Immaculate Reception" as a play, your major complaint was that I didn't explain my rejection of it. As I wrote, the reason I hesitated to do so at the time was because I respected you too much to believe you would need a detailed explanation. But after you kept it up for a full day, I finally relented and did explain it to you, and you accepted it and moved on.

When you drafted "Wrestlemania" I sought to avoid my previous possible error and immediately explained why I would not accept it, again in great detail. I gave you a chance to appeal, which you refused. Instead you began to insult me here openly. As in the previous pick, other people came in here to insult me as well. Perhaps they know you, perhaps they don't; I have no opinion on that. Though you did not appeal, Krista and Doug weighed in anyhow. Krista said she would accept it if you would choose one episode; I'm assuming she was having fun with this. Doug B upheld my rejection.

I don't have time to read all this before running out for dinner, but the bold is ridiculous, and you should explain yourself. Having fun in what way? I'll reply to whatever insane response you have by the time I get back. Probably was not best to say this about someone who's had your back. Perhaps, I hope, I'm misreading.

During the time the pick of "Wrestlemania" was being discussed, a couple of posters (I don't remember who) suggested that the selection be restricted to one specific episode. It seemed to me these suggestions were written in a joking manner, related to a previous joking discussion along these same lines regarding other picks. When you wrote shortly thereafter that you would accept Misfit Blondes' choice if he restricted it to one specific episode, I made the assumption that you were mocking it as well. If I assumed wrong, I apologize. Despite my assumption, if Doug B had agreed with you the pick would have been accepted under that restriction.

 

[mad sweeney]

MB has been close but isn't quite enough to sustain my amusement.

Yet you keep mentioning me or replying to me.

One of the first good points you've made. One that's easily fixable, provided you don't choose to make personal attacks against me again. And one that hopefully the thread will also enact. To the threadmates, sorry that I prolonged MB's silliness, I won't be doing it anymore. I would expect the fact that his obtuseness and/or deliberate sabotage has already made TIm quit once or twice and has had several people ask for him to be removed will mean that others will as well, but for my part in extending it I apologize.

 

[TidesofWar]

We're going back to the album category, and we're staying in Detroit. Like "Respect" before it, this album is a top 5-10 pick by any criteria you'd like to use. When El Floppo picked the title track 5 rounds ago for the song category, I figured the album would very shortly follow. Luckily for Gene/Bonzai, it's still here 5 rounds later. Widely regarded as one of the top albums of all time, it's easily the masterpiece of one of the most definitive male vocalists in US history. Complete with a three octave range and fueled by an anger at what he was watching happen in the late 1960's, Marvin Gaye wrote, recorded, and produced an iconic piece of American art. Tackling the themes of the day - racial injustices, the Vietnam War, urban living conditions - with an unmatched passion and beauty of voice, it's beautiful, beautiful work of art framed like so much great art is by the artist's own demons.

24.03 - What's Going On - Marvin Gaye - Album

1. "What's Going On" (Al Cleveland, Marvin Gaye, Renaldo Benson) – 3:53

2. "What's Happening Brother" (James Nyx, M. Gaye) – 2:43

3. "Flyin' High (In the Friendly Sky)" (M. Gaye, Anna Gordy Gaye, Elgie Stover) – 3:49

4. "Save the Children" (Cleveland, M. Gaye, Benson) – 4:03

5. "God Is Love" (M. Gaye, A. Gaye, Stover, Nyx) – 1:41

6. "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)" (M. Gaye) – 3:16

7. "Right On" (Earl DeRouen, M. Gaye) – 7:31

8. "Wholy Holy" (Benson, Cleveland, M. Gaye) – 3:08

9. "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" (M. Gaye, Nyx) – 5:26

And with What's Going On next to Pet Sounds, we're quite pleased with our album section.

I wavered between this and Highway 61 Revisited. I have GWD envy of your album selections.

Why?? Albums are subjective in the extreme?? There are a few recognized giants for certain reasons, but lots of extremely choice-worthy albums in all types of music.

Seems pretty obvious--the same reason people are upset to miss out on their favorite novels, paintings, etc. Pet Sounds is one of my top five favorites of all time, and What's Going On is top ten.

Thanks - I was beginning to feel like Claude Rains