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Official Great Works Draft (5 Viewers)

first of all: :thumbup: second of all how do you skip me when the clock had not even started?
It's never been a stated rule. But several times when someone has made a "mispick", other people have not waited and gone ahead and made the next pick- this has happened in several drafts ever since I've been involved with them or beforehand, so I took it for granted that it was standard practice. The clock not being started was irrelevant. In retrospect, it seems like a bad practice though, so I think, if there's no objection, we'll reverse it now and say that from now on, if there is a "mispick", the person selecting has the remaining time allotted (although this won't apply to any picks that are vetoed.) Sorry, Fennis, I probably should have made this change beforehand. I hope you didn't lose out.
I select movie: The Bicycle Thief
 
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first of all: :( second of all how do you skip me when the clock had not even started?
It's never been a stated rule. But several times when someone has made a "mispick", other people have not waited and gone ahead and made the next pick- this has happened in several drafts ever since I've been involved with them or beforehand, so I took it for granted that it was standard practice. The clock not being started was irrelevant. In retrospect, it seems like a bad practice though, so I think, if there's no objection, we'll reverse it now and say that from now on, if there is a "mispick", the person selecting has the remaining time allotted (although this won't apply to any picks that are vetoed.) Sorry, Fennis, I probably should have made this change beforehand. I hope you didn't lose out.
I select movie: The Bicycle Thief
It's been stolen already.
 
25.01 - Fennis - Re-pick needed (Selection was already taken)

Skipped

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip tonight)

25.03 - Postradamus (autoskip this pick)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.07 - BobbyLayne - OTC until :20

25.08 - Tides of War (autoskip today)

25.09 - Wikkidpissah - On Deck

25.10 - Thatguy - In The Hole

25.11 - El Floppo (autoskip today)

25.12 - Mister CIA (autoskip)

25.13 - Uncle Humuna

25.14 - Misfit Blondes

25.15 - Bob Lee Swagger

 
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With my next pick, I'm targeting my cat's favorite novel, but I might actually take his favorite non-fiction work instead. Decisions, decisions.
Your cat pm'ed last night with congratulations- turns out he's a closet Lakers fan.
Oh he's no longer in the closet. I caught him in the act of PMing you. He spent the night in his kennel and went without food this morning.
 
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Oops, forgot the write-up for my 24.20.

La Sagrada Familia

The Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família (official Catalan name; Spanish: Templo Expiatorio de la Sagrada Familia; "Expiatory Temple of the Holy Family"), often simply called the Sagrada Família, is a massive, privately-funded Roman Catholic church that has been under construction in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain since 1882 and is expected to continue until at least 2026. Considered the master-work of renowned Catalan architect Antoni Gaudí (1852–1926), the project's vast scale and idiosyncratic design have made it one of Barcelona's (and Spain's) top tourist attractions for many years.

The Sagrada Familia was designed by Antoni Gaudí (1852–1926), who worked on the project for over 40 years. Gaudi devoted the last 15 years of his life entirely to the endeavor. ... On the subject of the extremely long construction period, Gaudí is said to have remarked, "My client is not in a hurry." After Gaudí's death in 1926, work continued under the direction of Domènech Sugranyes until interrupted by the Spanish Civil War in 1936. Parts of the unfinished church and Gaudí's models and workshop were destroyed during the war by Catalan anarchists. The present design is based on reconstructed versions of the lost plans as well as on modern adaptations. ...

According to the newspaper El Periódico de Catalunya, 2.26 million people visited the partially built church in 2004, making it one of the most popular attractions in Spain. The central nave vaulting was completed in 2000 and the main tasks since then have been the construction of the transept vaults and apse. As of 2006, work concentrates on the crossing and supporting structure for the main tower of Jesus Christ as well as the southern enclosure of the central nave which will become the Glory façade.

...

Every part of the design of La Sagrada Família is rich with Christian symbolism, as Gaudí intended the church to be the "last great sanctuary of Christendom". Its most striking aspect is its spindle-shaped towers. A total of 18 tall towers are called for, representing in ascending order of height the Twelve Apostles, the four Evangelists, the Virgin Mary and, tallest of all, Jesus Christ. ... The Evangelists' towers will be surmounted by sculptures of their traditional symbols: a bull (St Luke), a winged man (St Matthew), an eagle (St John), and a lion (St Mark). The central tower of Jesus Christ is to be surmounted by a giant cross; the tower's total height (170 m) will be one metre less than that of Montjuïc, as Gaudí believed that his work should not surpass that of God. Lower towers are surmounted by communion hosts with sheaves of wheat and chalices with bunches of grapes, representing the Eucharist.

The Church will have three grand façades: the Nativity façade to the East, the Glory façade to the South (yet to be completed) and the Passion façade to the West. The Nativity facade was built before work was interrupted in 1935 and bears the most direct Gaudí influence. The Passion façade is especially striking for its spare, gaunt, tormented characters, including emaciated figures of Christ being flogged and on the crucifix. These controversial designs are the work of Josep Maria Subirachs.

The church plan is that of a Latin cross with five aisles. The central nave vaults reach 45 meters while the side nave vaults reach 30 meters. The transept has 3 aisles. The columns are on a 7.5 meter grid however the columns of the apse, resting on del Villar's foundation, do not adhere to the grid, requiring a section of columns of the ambulatory to transition to the grid thus creating a horseshoe pattern to the layout of those columns. The crossing rests on the four central columns of porphyry supporting a great hyperboloid surrounded by two rings of 12 hyperboloids (currently under construction). The central vault reaches 60 meters. The apse will be capped by a hyperboloid vault reaching 75 meters. Gaudi intended that a visitor standing at the main entrance be able to see the vaults of the nave, crossing, and apse, thus the graduated increase in vault loftiness.

The columns of the interior are a unique Gaudi design. Besides branching to support their load, their ever-changing surfaces are the result of the intersection of various geometric forms. The simplest example is that of a square base evolving into an octagon as the column rises, then a 16-sided form, and eventually to a circle. This effect is the result of a three-dimensional intersection of helicoidal columns (for example a square cross-section column twisting clockwise and a similar one twisting counter-clockwise).

The towers on the Nativity façade are crowned with geometrically shaped tops that are reminiscent of Cubism (they were finished around 1930), and the intricate decoration is contemporary to the style of Art Nouveau, but Gaudí's unique style drew primarily from nature, not other artists or architects, and resists categorization.

Gaudí used hyperboloid structures in later designs of the Sagrada Família (more obviously after 1914), however there are a few places on the nativity façade—a design not equated with Gaudí's ruled-surface design, where the hyperboloid crops up. For example, all around the scene with the pelican there are numerous examples (including the basket held by one of the figures). There is a hyperboloid adding structural stability to the cypress tree (by connecting it to the bridge). And finally, the "bishop's mitre" spires are capped with hyperboloid structures. In his later designs, ruled surfaces are prominent in the nave's vaults and windows and the surfaces of the Passion facade.

Themes throughout the decoration include words from the liturgy. The towers are decorated with words such as "Hosanna", "Excelsis", and "Sanctus"; the great doors of the Passion façade reproduce words from the Bible in various languages including Catalan; and the Glory façade is to be decorated with the words from the Apostles' Creed.

Areas of the sanctuary will be designated to represent various concepts, such as saints, virtues and sins, and secular concepts such as regions, presumably with decoration to match.
See mr. furley's quote in my signature? This is what it feels like to see La Sagrada Familia. It's insane and beautiful.Some pictures (keep getting errors when I try to put titles on):

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25.01 - Fennis - Re-pick needed (Selection was already taken)

Skipped

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip tonight)

25.03 - Postradamus (autoskip this pick)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.07 - BobbyLayne/flysack - Timed out

25.08 - Tides of War (autoskip today)

25.09 - Wikkidpissah - OTC until :20 (PM Sent)

25.10 - Thatguy - On Deck

25.11 - El Floppo (autoskip today)

25.12 - Mister CIA (autoskip)

25.13 - Uncle Humuna - In The Hole

25.14 - Misfit Blondes

25.15 - Bob Lee Swagger

25.16 - Scott Norwood

25.17 - DC Thunder

25.18 - Genedoc

25.19 - Tirnan

25.20 - Yankee23Fan

 
Oops, forgot the write-up for my 24.20.

La Sagrada Familia

The Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família (official Catalan name; Spanish: Templo Expiatorio de la Sagrada Familia; "Expiatory Temple of the Holy Family"), often simply called the Sagrada Família, is a massive, privately-funded Roman Catholic church that has been under construction in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain since 1882 and is expected to continue until at least 2026. Considered the master-work of renowned Catalan architect Antoni Gaudí (1852–1926), the project's vast scale and idiosyncratic design have made it one of Barcelona's (and Spain's) top tourist attractions for many years.

The Sagrada Familia was designed by Antoni Gaudí (1852–1926), who worked on the project for over 40 years. Gaudi devoted the last 15 years of his life entirely to the endeavor. ... On the subject of the extremely long construction period, Gaudí is said to have remarked, "My client is not in a hurry." After Gaudí's death in 1926, work continued under the direction of Domènech Sugranyes until interrupted by the Spanish Civil War in 1936. Parts of the unfinished church and Gaudí's models and workshop were destroyed during the war by Catalan anarchists. The present design is based on reconstructed versions of the lost plans as well as on modern adaptations. ...

According to the newspaper El Periódico de Catalunya, 2.26 million people visited the partially built church in 2004, making it one of the most popular attractions in Spain. The central nave vaulting was completed in 2000 and the main tasks since then have been the construction of the transept vaults and apse. As of 2006, work concentrates on the crossing and supporting structure for the main tower of Jesus Christ as well as the southern enclosure of the central nave which will become the Glory façade.

...

Every part of the design of La Sagrada Família is rich with Christian symbolism, as Gaudí intended the church to be the "last great sanctuary of Christendom". Its most striking aspect is its spindle-shaped towers. A total of 18 tall towers are called for, representing in ascending order of height the Twelve Apostles, the four Evangelists, the Virgin Mary and, tallest of all, Jesus Christ. ... The Evangelists' towers will be surmounted by sculptures of their traditional symbols: a bull (St Luke), a winged man (St Matthew), an eagle (St John), and a lion (St Mark). The central tower of Jesus Christ is to be surmounted by a giant cross; the tower's total height (170 m) will be one metre less than that of Montjuïc, as Gaudí believed that his work should not surpass that of God. Lower towers are surmounted by communion hosts with sheaves of wheat and chalices with bunches of grapes, representing the Eucharist.

The Church will have three grand façades: the Nativity façade to the East, the Glory façade to the South (yet to be completed) and the Passion façade to the West. The Nativity facade was built before work was interrupted in 1935 and bears the most direct Gaudí influence. The Passion façade is especially striking for its spare, gaunt, tormented characters, including emaciated figures of Christ being flogged and on the crucifix. These controversial designs are the work of Josep Maria Subirachs.

The church plan is that of a Latin cross with five aisles. The central nave vaults reach 45 meters while the side nave vaults reach 30 meters. The transept has 3 aisles. The columns are on a 7.5 meter grid however the columns of the apse, resting on del Villar's foundation, do not adhere to the grid, requiring a section of columns of the ambulatory to transition to the grid thus creating a horseshoe pattern to the layout of those columns. The crossing rests on the four central columns of porphyry supporting a great hyperboloid surrounded by two rings of 12 hyperboloids (currently under construction). The central vault reaches 60 meters. The apse will be capped by a hyperboloid vault reaching 75 meters. Gaudi intended that a visitor standing at the main entrance be able to see the vaults of the nave, crossing, and apse, thus the graduated increase in vault loftiness.

The columns of the interior are a unique Gaudi design. Besides branching to support their load, their ever-changing surfaces are the result of the intersection of various geometric forms. The simplest example is that of a square base evolving into an octagon as the column rises, then a 16-sided form, and eventually to a circle. This effect is the result of a three-dimensional intersection of helicoidal columns (for example a square cross-section column twisting clockwise and a similar one twisting counter-clockwise).

The towers on the Nativity façade are crowned with geometrically shaped tops that are reminiscent of Cubism (they were finished around 1930), and the intricate decoration is contemporary to the style of Art Nouveau, but Gaudí's unique style drew primarily from nature, not other artists or architects, and resists categorization.

Gaudí used hyperboloid structures in later designs of the Sagrada Família (more obviously after 1914), however there are a few places on the nativity façade—a design not equated with Gaudí's ruled-surface design, where the hyperboloid crops up. For example, all around the scene with the pelican there are numerous examples (including the basket held by one of the figures). There is a hyperboloid adding structural stability to the cypress tree (by connecting it to the bridge). And finally, the "bishop's mitre" spires are capped with hyperboloid structures. In his later designs, ruled surfaces are prominent in the nave's vaults and windows and the surfaces of the Passion facade.

Themes throughout the decoration include words from the liturgy. The towers are decorated with words such as "Hosanna", "Excelsis", and "Sanctus"; the great doors of the Passion façade reproduce words from the Bible in various languages including Catalan; and the Glory façade is to be decorated with the words from the Apostles' Creed.

Areas of the sanctuary will be designated to represent various concepts, such as saints, virtues and sins, and secular concepts such as regions, presumably with decoration to match.
See mr. furley's quote in my signature? This is what it feels like to see La Sagrada Familia. It's insane and beautiful.Some pictures (keep getting errors when I try to put titles on):

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I'm going to put our differences aside for a moment to say that structure is amazing. I wish I knew more about the world so I could make picks like this. :thumbup: Okay, the feud is back on.

 
Oops, forgot the write-up for my 24.20. La Sagrada FamiliaSee mr. furley's quote in my signature? This is what it feels like to see La Sagrada Familia. It's insane and beautiful.Some pictures (keep getting errors when I try to put titles on):
This was on my short list of picks to fill out the category for me. Really sweet building.ETA: Removed jacked up links. I wonder how the heck they got the <a href> tag wrap???
 
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With my make-up pick, I am taking a pick my partner suggested as a possibility on her list. I wouldn't have considered it, until she suggested it, but it is one of my favorite books. I have read it at least a dozen times.

25.01 The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley Non Fiction

To see the transformation of the man from Malcolm Little to Detroit Red to Malcolm X to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz is an amazing view. There is a tremendous amount to learn from Malcolm in all stages of his life.

Great book, great pick. :thumbup:

 
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With my make-up pick, I am taking a pick my partner suggested as a possibility on her list. I wouldn't have considered it, until she suggested it, but it is one of my favorite books. I have read it at least a dozen times.

25.01 The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley Non Fiction

To see the transformation of the man from Malcolm Little to Detroit Red to Malcolm X to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz is an amazing view. There is a tremendous amount to learn from Malcolm in all stages of his life.

Great book, great pick. :goodposting:
Was on my short list of targets for my next picks. Nice get. :thumbup:
 
Oops, forgot the write-up for my 24.20. La Sagrada FamiliaSee mr. furley's quote in my signature? This is what it feels like to see La Sagrada Familia. It's insane and beautiful.Some pictures (keep getting errors when I try to put titles on):
This was on my short list of picks to fill out the category for me. Really sweet building.ETA: Removed jacked up links. I wonder how the heck they got the <a href> tag wrap???
I have no idea what happened. I kept getting an error saying that the administrator of this site wouldn't allow links to some of the sites I was using pictures from, so I'd replace those with other pictures and things just got wackier and wackier. Sorry for the jacked up post. I blame El Floppo.
 
With my make-up pick, I am taking a pick my partner suggested as a possibility on her list. I wouldn't have considered it, until she suggested it, but it is one of my favorite books. I have read it at least a dozen times.

25.01 The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley Non Fiction

To see the transformation of the man from Malcolm Little to Detroit Red to Malcolm X to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz is an amazing view. There is a tremendous amount to learn from Malcolm in all stages of his life.

Great book, great pick. :goodposting:
:thumbup: One of my favorite books, too. So glad you took this one!ETA: Not sure what my cat thinks of it, though.

 
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The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
That reminds me...when we do rankings for these, should we just do--using movies as an example--four 20s through four 2s, leaving out the ones we selected? It's a bit more awkward than in the prior drafts because if you (tim) then slotted something into a spot, you can't move everything else automatically down. For instance, if I had The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Lawrence, and Dr. Strangelove as 20s, and you slotted 8-1/2 as a 20, would I then have to choose one to move down (and also choose in each succeeding level), or would we just have five 20s?
My four 20 point movies would be Casablanca, Vertigo, Raging Bull, and Seven Samurai. YWIA.
 
I have three of four "locks" for the 20 rating in movies, but I go back and forth on the fourth. It's also possible that someone could make a future selection that gets that last spot.So I'm wondering, what do you guys feel are the four 20s in movies so far? I'm just curious.Here are the movies selected:Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Lawrence of Arabia Seven Samurai The Wizard of Oz The Shawshank Redemption Raging Bull Psycho Star Wars Citizen Kane North by Northwest Schindler's List The Godfather Aguirre, The Wrath of God The Silence of the Lambs Vertigo The Godfather Part II Singin' In The Rain Броненосец «Потёмкин», The Battleship Potemkin 8 1/2 JAWS Casablanca Rocky Gettysburg Dr Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love the Bomb Gone With the WindThe Bicycle Thief
To me the greatest movies are both artistic achievements and entertaining, so while for example Citizen Kane was groundbreaking in so many ways - it's not something I'd be happy watching repeatedly like many of the others (note I still think Kane deserves a very high ranking). To me the only sure 20's on the list here are The Godfather and Casablanca - which I think fit my view perfectly. The other 2 movies I would give 20 points to haven't been taken yet.
 
The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
That reminds me...when we do rankings for these, should we just do--using movies as an example--four 20s through four 2s, leaving out the ones we selected? It's a bit more awkward than in the prior drafts because if you (tim) then slotted something into a spot, you can't move everything else automatically down. For instance, if I had The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Lawrence, and Dr. Strangelove as 20s, and you slotted 8-1/2 as a 20, would I then have to choose one to move down (and also choose in each succeeding level), or would we just have five 20s?
My four 20 point movies would be Casablanca, Vertigo, Raging Bull, and Seven Samurai. YWIA.
:goodposting: I'm surprised you gave a nod to Seven Samurai rather than "my fourth pick TBD".
 
To me the greatest movies are both artistic achievements and entertaining, so while for example Citizen Kane was groundbreaking in so many ways - it's not something I'd be happy watching repeatedly like many of the others (note I still think Kane deserves a very high ranking). To me the only sure 20's on the list here are The Godfather and Casablanca - which I think fit my view perfectly. The other 2 movies I would give 20 points to haven't been taken yet.
:goodposting: Will be eager to see what they are!
 
To me the greatest movies are both artistic achievements and entertaining, so while for example Citizen Kane was groundbreaking in so many ways - it's not something I'd be happy watching repeatedly like many of the others (note I still think Kane deserves a very high ranking). To me the only sure 20's on the list here are The Godfather and Casablanca - which I think fit my view perfectly. The other 2 movies I would give 20 points to haven't been taken yet.
Interesting, interesting. :lmao:
 
The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
That reminds me...when we do rankings for these, should we just do--using movies as an example--four 20s through four 2s, leaving out the ones we selected? It's a bit more awkward than in the prior drafts because if you (tim) then slotted something into a spot, you can't move everything else automatically down. For instance, if I had The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Lawrence, and Dr. Strangelove as 20s, and you slotted 8-1/2 as a 20, would I then have to choose one to move down (and also choose in each succeeding level), or would we just have five 20s?
My four 20 point movies would be Casablanca, Vertigo, Raging Bull, and Seven Samurai. YWIA.
:mellow: I'm surprised you gave a nod to Seven Samurai rather than "my fourth pick TBD".
That would have been presumptuous. Why, I didn't even notice all three of those first one there were on my team.
 
Aw hell, since I've known for two rounds what I am taking, it's unfair to the others for me purposefully to thatguy the draft.This is what I was tempted to take last time for fear of Abrantes' sniping it, which inexplicably he didn't. :goodposting: 24.20 La Sagrada Familia (Building/Structure)Write-up of Gaudi's masterpiece to come.
Sigh... was on this half of team norwood/anbo's short list. been there, seen it, toured it... and its awesome.
 
Aw hell, since I've known for two rounds what I am taking, it's unfair to the others for me purposefully to thatguy the draft.This is what I was tempted to take last time for fear of Abrantes' sniping it, which inexplicably he didn't. :goodposting: 24.20 La Sagrada Familia (Building/Structure)Write-up of Gaudi's masterpiece to come.
Sigh... was on this half of team norwood/anbo's short list. been there, seen it, toured it... and its awesome.
:hey: I really couldn't find pics to do it justice.
 
Skipped

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip tonight)

25.03 - Postradamus (autoskip this pick)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.07 - BobbyLayne/flysack - Timed out

25.08 - Tides of War (autoskip today)

25.09 - Wikkidpissah - Timed out

25.11 - El Floppo (autoskip today)

25.12 - Mister CIA (autoskip)

25.13 - Uncle Humuna - OTC until :21 (Pm sent)

25.14 - Misfit Blondes

25.15 - Bob Lee Swagger

25.16 - Scott Norwood

25.17 - DC Thunder

25.18 - Genedoc

25.19 - Tirnan

25.20 - Yankee23Fan

 
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With pick 25.07, Team BobbyLayne™ selects -

Relativity: The Special and the General Theory (1916), by Albert Einstein - Non-Fiction

Einstein shattered common-sense notions of space and time with the publication of his special theory of relativity in 1905. In the general theory of relativity, published in 1916, he extended the special theory to include gravity, supplanting Newton's law of universal gravitation, the zenith of the Scientific Revolution. In Relativity: The Special and General Theory, Einstein took his revolutionary theory directly to the people. In simple terms, he carefully laid out the basic concepts of relativity. But almost ninety years have passed since Einstein penned this classic; many advances have been made in our understanding of relativity and space and time.
"The present book is intended," Einstein wrote in 1916, "as far as possible, to give an exact insight into the theory of Relativity to those readers who, from a general scientific and philosophical point of view, are interested in the theory, but who are not conversant with the mathematical apparatus of theoretical physics....
This book is an anchor of 20th century thought, in that it made the highly formulaic theory of relativity understandable to the general public. The result was Einstein's theories became as influential as Freud's would be, to the point that they could be cited, in some minor form, in almost any household across the educated world.
 
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Skipped23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)24.16 - Doug B (autoskip tonight)25.03 - Postradamus (autoskip this pick)25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)25.07 - BobbyLayne/flysack - Timed out25.08 - Tides of War (autoskip today)25.09 - Wikkidpissah - Timed out25.11 - El Floppo (autoskip today)25.12 - Mister CIA (autoskip)25.13 - Uncle Humuna - OTC until :21 (Pm sent)25.14 - Misfit Blondes25.15 - Bob Lee Swagger25.16 - Scott Norwood 25.17 - DC Thunder 25.18 - Genedoc 25.19 - Tirnan 25.20 - Yankee23Fan
Some serious skippage there. Only 20-something skips away from my next pick. Let's keep it goin'! :thumbup:
 
25.02 - Symphony No. 6 Op. 74 'Pathetique' - Pyotr I. Tchaikovsky - Composition

Full performance here

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky's final symphony, written between February and the end of August 1893. The composer led the first performance in St. Petersburg on October 28 of that year, nine days before his death.

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A steal in the 25th
 
The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
I'm a Strangelove fan, but top 4 all time is, I think, several notches too high. The short list of selected movies that could legitimately claim 20 point scores are IMHO:

Casablanca - My personal favorite based on it's writing, storytelling influence, and timelessness. 60+ years later it's not only watchable, it's still damn entertaining.

Citizen Kane - I'm placing my own biases aside because I find it nearly unwatchable. Still, it's influence in cinematography is irrefutable. I watched a special edition DVD a few years ago and loathed the movie. So much so that I watched the "Critic's Cut" again to see what I was missing. Someone - Ebert or some film critic/director type - talked you through each scene and explained all of the things that had never been done before.

The Godfather - The ultimate gangster story with some of the best acting ever.

Laurence of Arabia - The ultimate epic

8.5 - Never seen it, but know of it.

Battleship Potemkin

Singin In the Rain

Bicycle Thieves

 
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Someone has timed out (wikkid?); thatguy's pick:Movie - The Usual SuspectsWriteup Later.
When I first saw this as a teenager, it bew my mind. However, I don't think it holds up as well as most of the other movies selected thus far, since a lot of its power hinges on the surprise of the gimmick at the end. Once that's gone, it's still a wonderfully constructed thriller, but probably the slightest film on the list.Edit: Oi, I agree with MB!
 
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The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
I'm a Strangelove fan, but top 4 all time is, I think, several notches too high. The short list of selected movies that could legitimately claim 20 point scores are IMHO:

Casablanca - My personal favorite based on it's writing, storytelling influence, and timelessness. 60+ years later it's not only watchable, it's still damn entertaining.

Citizen Kane - I'm placing my own biases aside because I find it nearly unwatchable. Still, it's influence in cinematography is irrefutable. I watched a special edition DVD a few years ago and loathed the movie. So much so that I watched the "Critic's Cut" again to see what I was missing. Someone - Ebert or some film critic/director type - talked you through each scene and explained all of the things that had never been done before.

The Godfather - The ultimate gangster story with some of the best acting ever.

Laurence of Arabia - The ultimate epic

8.5 - Never seen it, but know of it.

Battleship Potemkin

Singin In the Rain

Bicycle Thieves
No love for Seven Samurai? :lmao:
 
The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
I'm a Strangelove fan, but top 4 all time is, I think, several notches too high. The short list of selected movies that could legitimately claim 20 point scores are IMHO:

Casablanca - My personal favorite based on it's writing, storytelling influence, and timelessness. 60+ years later it's not only watchable, it's still damn entertaining.

Citizen Kane - I'm placing my own biases aside because I find it nearly unwatchable. Still, it's influence in cinematography is irrefutable. I watched a special edition DVD a few years ago and loathed the movie. So much so that I watched the "Critic's Cut" again to see what I was missing. Someone - Ebert or some film critic/director type - talked you through each scene and explained all of the things that had never been done before.

The Godfather - The ultimate gangster story with some of the best acting ever.

Laurence of Arabia - The ultimate epic

8.5 - Never seen it, but know of it.

Battleship Potemkin

Singin In the Rain

Bicycle Thieves
No love for Seven Samurai? :lmao:
Simply an oversight. It should have been in there, too.
 
The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
That reminds me...when we do rankings for these, should we just do--using movies as an example--four 20s through four 2s, leaving out the ones we selected? It's a bit more awkward than in the prior drafts because if you (tim) then slotted something into a spot, you can't move everything else automatically down. For instance, if I had The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Lawrence, and Dr. Strangelove as 20s, and you slotted 8-1/2 as a 20, would I then have to choose one to move down (and also choose in each succeeding level), or would we just have five 20s?
Good question. I haven't really thought about it. You will rank them as you see them, leaving out 5 scores. I will rank your films as I see them. If that gives us 5 or more 20s, so be it. It also allows you an out- if you feel, for instance, that there are only three films worthy of 20 (or 3 films worthy of 1, for example) then you can do it. You will be ranking 75 films total.
I have a question about rankings. Pissah, and now Krista, has mentioned specific selections as "20's", but I thought that the rankings would be based on draft position. e.g. Everyone's first movie selection will be ranked as a group, then everyone's second movie selection, etc.Is this incorrect?

 
25.09 LET IT BLEED, Rolling Stones, album

I won't stand in line. Not for movies, not for tickets and, if a line is too long or moving too slowly at the market, i abandon my basket, no matter how important to me. In my NAMEDROP OF THE DAY® - when i worked for Bonnie Raitt in '74-5, we were playing this converted movie theater & i saw Bonnie lookin out the window weeping like a child (and she was not a cryer). i joined her there & looked down on the line of 250 people waiting in the rain to get into her show & realized that she was blown away that folks would stand in line to see her. that's how big lines are. Let It Bleed is the only piece of media i've ever stood in line to purchase. It is to the Stones what Revolver is to the Beatles - their no fuss, no muss, dead-solid perfect record. and i love it so -

 
The Godfather, Citizen Kane, 8 1/2 (which you won't be ranking). The fourth could be Lawrence, Dr. Strangelove, or Casablanca. That's how I see it.
That reminds me...when we do rankings for these, should we just do--using movies as an example--four 20s through four 2s, leaving out the ones we selected? It's a bit more awkward than in the prior drafts because if you (tim) then slotted something into a spot, you can't move everything else automatically down. For instance, if I had The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Lawrence, and Dr. Strangelove as 20s, and you slotted 8-1/2 as a 20, would I then have to choose one to move down (and also choose in each succeeding level), or would we just have five 20s?
Good question. I haven't really thought about it. You will rank them as you see them, leaving out 5 scores. I will rank your films as I see them. If that gives us 5 or more 20s, so be it. It also allows you an out- if you feel, for instance, that there are only three films worthy of 20 (or 3 films worthy of 1, for example) then you can do it. You will be ranking 75 films total.
I have a question about rankings. Pissah, and now Krista, has mentioned specific selections as "20's", but I thought that the rankings would be based on draft position. e.g. Everyone's first movie selection will be ranked as a group, then everyone's second movie selection, etc.Is this incorrect?
Pretty sure it's incorrect. I believe there will simply be a list made, stripped of who drafted it and where, and that list will be ordered top to bottom. If there were 5 things to be selected, the top 5 will get 20's, the next 5 will get 19's, etc. When we're done, add up all of the points.
 
25.13 Koyaanisqatsi - (Documentary)

In the context of the theme of this draft, IMHO, this is a definitive top pick in the category.

The film consists primarily of slow motion and time-lapse photography of cities and many natural landscapes across the United States. The visual tone poem contains neither dialogue nor a vocalized narration: its tone is set by the juxtaposition of images and music. In the Hopi language, the word Koyaanisqatsi means 'crazy life, life in turmoil, life out of balance, life disintegrating, a state of life that calls for another way of living', and the film implies that modern humanity is living in such a way.
 
25.13 Koyaanisqatsi - (Documentary)

In the context of the theme of this draft, IMHO, this is a definitive top pick in the category.

The film consists primarily of slow motion and time-lapse photography of cities and many natural landscapes across the United States. The visual tone poem contains neither dialogue nor a vocalized narration: its tone is set by the juxtaposition of images and music. In the Hopi language, the word Koyaanisqatsi means 'crazy life, life in turmoil, life out of balance, life disintegrating, a state of life that calls for another way of living', and the film implies that modern humanity is living in such a way.
another bullseye. the only VHS tape i bought when they were those ridiculous $79.95 prices at the beginning.
 
25.13 Koyaanisqatsi - (Documentary)

In the context of the theme of this draft, IMHO, this is a definitive top pick in the category.

The film consists primarily of slow motion and time-lapse photography of cities and many natural landscapes across the United States. The visual tone poem contains neither dialogue nor a vocalized narration: its tone is set by the juxtaposition of images and music. In the Hopi language, the word Koyaanisqatsi means 'crazy life, life in turmoil, life out of balance, life disintegrating, a state of life that calls for another way of living', and the film implies that modern humanity is living in such a way.
Badass music in this bad boy.
 
Skipped

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip tonight)

25.03 - Postradamus (autoskip this pick)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.08 - Tides of War (autoskip today)

25.11 - El Floppo (autoskip today)

25.12 - Mister CIA (autoskip)

25.14 - Misfit Blondes - OTC until :49

25.15 - Bob Lee Swagger

25.16 - Scott Norwood

25.17 - DC Thunder

25.18 - Genedoc

25.19 - Tirnan - autoskip?:

25.20 - Yankee23Fan

 
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wikkidpissah said:
25.09 LET IT BLEED, Rolling Stones, album

I won't stand in line. Not for movies, not for tickets and, if a line is too long or moving too slowly at the market, i abandon my basket, no matter how important to me. In my NAMEDROP OF THE DAY® - when i worked for Bonnie Raitt in '74-5, we were playing this converted movie theater & i saw Bonnie lookin out the window weeping like a child (and she was not a cryer). i joined her there & looked down on the line of 250 people waiting in the rain to get into her show & realized that she was blown away that folks would stand in line to see her. that's how big lines are. Let It Bleed is the only piece of media i've ever stood in line to purchase. It is to the Stones what Revolver is to the Beatles - their no fuss, no muss, dead-solid perfect record. and i love it so -
Best Stones album IMHO.####ing epic.

 

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