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Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)

wikkidpissah said:
flysack's out or i am. nufced
FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICEMay 30, 2009

To: Wikkidpissah

Re: Your Second request (threat?) to quit if Flysack is not removed.

Dear sir,

This office has now received your second request regarding the above situation. Unfortunately we are unable to review your request at this time. I highly recommend you contact the incoming commissioner regarding your complaint; he will be available in a matter of a few days.

Very truly yours,

timschochet

 
Since BobbyLayne never made back, I'll go ahead and make pick 28.14 for Team BobbyLayne™ -

The Metamorphosis - Kafka - Novel

Write-up later. The Yankees are on the tube and burgers are on the grill.

 
Since BobbyLayne never made back, I'll go ahead and make pick 28.14 for Team BobbyLayne™ -

The Metamorphosis - Kafka - Novel

Write-up later. The Yankees are on the tube and burgers are on the grill.
Oh man, I thought people would forget this one fit into the category, and I hoped to snag it much later. Great pick. :)
 
28.15 John Coltrane's Giant Steps (Album)

Giant Steps, Mr. P.C. and Naima

If, in the words of the great Art Blakey, jazz washes away the dust of everyday life, Trane was a veritable tsunami. A force of nature which forcibly renewed and rearranged how people saw his art form. Some of the most mind-blowing and beautiful lines ever recorded. Barely 30 seconds into the title track, Coltrane sparks off into an impossibly fiery solo that should give the listeners an idea of what to expect. Yet, that's just the tip of the iceberg, and he keeps it going and going until the groove just consumes everything around it. Part for part, I'm a bigger fan of Trane's later great quartet, but the magic this group created is much greater than the sum of its parts. I love the Paul Chambers' gentle bass in "Naima" and the furious interplay in "Mr. P.C.". There are details and nuances to be discovered in each listening.

An uncommonly sharp AllMusic review:

History will undoubtedly enshrine this disc as a watershed the likes of which may never truly be appreciated. Giant Steps bore the double-edged sword of furthering the cause of the music as well as delivering it to an increasingly mainstream audience. Although this was John Coltrane's debut for Atlantic, he was concurrently performing and recording with Miles Davis. Within the space of less than three weeks, Coltrane would complete his work with Davis and company on another genre-defining disc, Kind of Blue, before commencing his efforts on this one. Coltrane (tenor sax) is flanked by essentially two different trios. Recording commenced in early May of 1959 with a pair of sessions that featured Tommy Flanagan (piano) and Art Taylor (drums), as well as Paul Chambers -- who was the only band member other than Coltrane to have performed on every date. When recording resumed in December of that year, Wynton Kelly (piano) and Jimmy Cobb (drums) were instated -- replicating the lineup featured on Kind of Blue, sans Miles Davis of course. At the heart of these recordings, however, is the laser-beam focus of Coltrane's tenor solos. All seven pieces issued on the original Giant Steps are likewise Coltrane compositions. He was, in essence, beginning to rewrite the jazz canon with material that would be centered on solos -- the 180-degree antithesis of the art form up to that point. These arrangements would create a place for the solo to become infinitely more compelling. This would culminate in a frenetic performance style that noted jazz journalist Ira Gitler accurately dubbed "sheets of sound." Coltrane's polytonal torrents extricate the amicable and otherwise cordial solos that had begun decaying the very exigency of the genre -- turning it into the equivalent of easy listening. He wastes no time as the disc's title track immediately indicates a progression from which there would be no looking back. Line upon line of highly cerebral improvisation snake between the melody and solos, practically fusing the two. The resolute intensity of "Countdown" does more to modernize jazz in 141 seconds than many artists do in their entire careers. Tellingly, the contrasting and ultimately pastoral "Naima" was the last tune to be recorded, and is the only track on the original long-player to feature the Kind of Blue quartet. What is lost in tempo is more than recouped in intrinsic melodic beauty.
 
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wikkidpissah said:
flysack's out or i am. nufced
FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICEMay 30, 2009

To: Wikkidpissah

Re: Your Second request (threat?) to quit if Flysack is not removed.

Dear sir,

This office has now received your second request regarding the above situation. Unfortunately we are unable to review your request at this time. I highly recommend you contact the incoming commissioner regarding your complaint; he will be available in a matter of a few days.

Very truly yours,

timschochet
I'm so confused.Whose a!@ am I supposed to be kissing to counteract Wikkid?

Please forward your answer to my office in triplicate with signatures by the current commissioner, the commissioner-elect, and Krista (whom I suspect is the Black Pope of this thing).

TIA! ;) :)

 
Metamorphosis is another great example of what I was talking about earlier. Do you think the makers of Olympia are going to tolerate a story about a guy who wakes up one morning and discovers he's a cockroach? Of course not! (Of course, Kafka was a Jew, so they figured he was really vermin anyhow, and this was proof of it.)
 
Since BobbyLayne never made back, I'll go ahead and make pick 28.14 for Team BobbyLayne™ -

The Metamorphosis - Kafka - Novel

Write-up later. The Yankees are on the tube and burgers are on the grill.
Oh man, I thought people would forget this one fit into the category, and I hoped to snag it much later. Great pick. :loco:
No BS - it was a toss-up between this and a non-fiction pick. Both are personal favorites. But I knew after Tim took The Trial that Kafka would be on people's minds, and either you, me, or thatguy would get paranoid and snag it ASAP. I got the lucky draw.
 
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Since BobbyLayne never made back, I'll go ahead and make pick 28.14 for Team BobbyLayne™ -

The Metamorphosis - Kafka - Novel

Write-up later. The Yankees are on the tube and burgers are on the grill.
Oh man, I thought people would forget this one fit into the category, and I hoped to snag it much later. Great pick. :loco:
No BS - it was a toss-up between this and a non-fiction pick. Both are personal favorites. But I knew after Tim took The Trial that Kafka would be on people's minds, and either you, me, or thatguy would get paranoid and snag it ASAP. I got the lucky draw.
I've definitely been considering it. Nice pick!
 
I'm so confused.

Whose a!@ am I supposed to be kissing to counteract Wikkid?

Please forward your answer to my office in triplicate with signatures by the current commissioner, the commissioner-elect, and Krista (whom I suspect is the Black Pope of this thing).

TIA! :) :loco:
:lmao: Dunno 'bout Black Pope. How 'bout a
? Them's the ones you don't #### with...
 
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28.17 The Talmud (non Fiction)

The Talmud (Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד talmūd "instruction, learning", from a root lmd "teach, study") is a record of rabbinic discussions pertaining to Jewish law, ethics, customs, and history. It is a central text of mainstream Judaism.

The Talmud has two components: the Mishnah (c. 200 CE), the first written compendium of Judaism's Oral Law; and the Gemara (c. 500 CE), a discussion of the Mishnah and related Tannaitic writings that often ventures onto other subjects and expounds broadly on the Tanakh.

The terms Talmud and Gemara are often used interchangeably. The Gemara is the basis for all codes of rabbinic law and is much quoted in other rabbinic literature. The whole Talmud is also traditionally referred to as Shas (ש"ס), a Hebrew abbreviation of shisha sedarim, the "six orders" of the Mishnah.

It is important to note that the though the Talmud's parts were collected after Christ on paper, it was treated as a set of oral traditions long before Christ, and this is extremely significant because many scholars have noted that much of Jesus' teachings in the New Testament have their basis in Talmudic thought- for instance, the sanctity of life (Rabbi Hillel). Also, much of the Qu'run is heavily influenced by Talmudic teachings.

Many Jews, including several of my ancestors and at least one living cousin, have devoted their entire lives to an intense study of the Talmud. Among the more Orthodox and Hasidic Jews there is no more prestigious activity other than prayer itself than to spend time reading this document, which for centuries was reserved for men. There is no greater honor for a religious Jew than to be considered a Talmudic Scholar, even to this day.

 
huzzah!

with the 18th pick in the 28th round of the Official Great Works Draft, Teap Guapo selects LOONEY TUNES as a TV show?, would this need to be seperated from MERRie MELODIES? I'll accept it as a Wildcard also if ruled otherwise.

Looney Tunes is a Warner Bros. animated cartoon series which ran in many movie theatres from 1930 to 1969. It preceded the Merrie Melodies series and is Warner Bros.'s first animated theatrical series. The regular Warner Bros. animation cast also became known as the "Looney Tunes" (often misspelled, intentionally or not, as "Looney Toons").

The name Looney Tunes is a variation on Silly Symphonies, the name of Walt Disney's concurrent series of music-based cartoon shorts. Looney Tunes originally showcased Warner-owned musical compositions through the adventures of cartoon characters such as Bosko and Buddy. Later Looney Tunes shorts featured popular characters such as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Elmer Fudd, Sylvester, Tweety, Marvin the Martian, Taz, Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner, Foghorn Leghorn, Yosemite Sam, Pepé Le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, and many others. Originally produced by Harman-Ising Pictures, Looney Tunes were produced by Leon Schlesinger Productions from 1933 to 1944. Schlesinger sold his studio to Warner Bros. in 1944, and the newly renamed Warner Bros. Cartoons continued production until 1963. Looney Tunes were outsourced to DePatie-Freleng Enterprises from 1964 to 1967, and Warner Bros. Cartoons re-assumed production for the series' final two years. From 1942 into the 1960s, Looney Tunes was the most popular short cartoon series in theaters, exceeding Disney and other popular competitors.
Haredevil DareDaffy for Prez

 
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Since BobbyLayne never made back, I'll go ahead and make pick 28.14 for Team BobbyLayne™ -

The Metamorphosis - Kafka - Novel

Write-up later. The Yankees are on the tube and burgers are on the grill.
Oh man, I thought people would forget this one fit into the category, and I hoped to snag it much later. Great pick. :(
No BS - it was a toss-up between this and a non-fiction pick. Both are personal favorites. But I knew after Tim took The Trial that Kafka would be on people's minds, and either you, me, or thatguy would get paranoid and snag it ASAP. I got the lucky draw.
I've definitely been considering it. Nice pick!
:goodposting: I was just looking at this as my short-story... forgot novellas didn't count.

 
huzzah!

with the 18th pick in the 28th round of the Official Great Works Draft, Teap Guapo selects LOONEY TUNES as a TV show?, would this need to be seperated from MERRie MELODIES? I'll accept it as a Wildcard also if ruled otherwise.

Looney Tunes is a Warner Bros. animated cartoon series which ran in many movie theatres from 1930 to 1969. It preceded the Merrie Melodies series and is Warner Bros.'s first animated theatrical series. The regular Warner Bros. animation cast also became known as the "Looney Tunes" (often misspelled, intentionally or not, as "Looney Toons").

The name Looney Tunes is a variation on Silly Symphonies, the name of Walt Disney's concurrent series of music-based cartoon shorts. Looney Tunes originally showcased Warner-owned musical compositions through the adventures of cartoon characters such as Bosko and Buddy. Later Looney Tunes shorts featured popular characters such as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Elmer Fudd, Sylvester, Tweety, Marvin the Martian, Taz, Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner, Foghorn Leghorn, Yosemite Sam, Pepé Le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, and many others. Originally produced by Harman-Ising Pictures, Looney Tunes were produced by Leon Schlesinger Productions from 1933 to 1944. Schlesinger sold his studio to Warner Bros. in 1944, and the newly renamed Warner Bros. Cartoons continued production until 1963. Looney Tunes were outsourced to DePatie-Freleng Enterprises from 1964 to 1967, and Warner Bros. Cartoons re-assumed production for the series' final two years. From 1942 into the 1960s, Looney Tunes was the most popular short cartoon series in theaters, exceeding Disney and other popular competitors.
Haredevil DareDaffy for Prez
Everybody promenade.Not originally made for TV as you point out, so unless you're taking the later ones I don't really see how it's a TV show? As a non-judge I got no juice...

eta: regardless, I didn't mention how much I like this pick :goodposting:

 
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As a kid, I watched those cartoons as "The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Hour". The problem is, they were made originally for the movie theatre, except for a few of lower quality which I don't think you'd want anyhow. So I have to say no. You can pick again, or move them to wildcard, or appeal.

 
28.19 - Ben-Hur - William Wyler (1959) - Movie

My favorite of the American epics.

Ben-Hur (1959) epic film directed by William Wyler, and is the third film version of Lew Wallace's novel 1880 Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ. It premiered at Loew's State Theatre in New York City on November 18, 1959. The film went on to win a record of eleven Academy Awards, including Best Picture.

The Chariot Race scene is one of the most famous action scenes in the history of movies. It also has to be considered one of the most impressive considering all that had to go into shooting it at that time....

The chariot race in Ben-Hur was directed by Andrew Marton, a Hollywood director who often acted as second unit director on other people's films. Even by current standards, it is considered to be one of the most spectacular action sequences ever filmed. Filmed at Cinecittà Studios outside Rome long before the advent of computer-generated effects, it took over three months to complete, using 8000 extras on the largest film set ever built, some 18 acres (73,000 m2). Eighteen chariots were built, with half being used for practice. The race took five weeks to film. Tour buses visited the set every hour.

The section in the middle of the circus, the spina, is a known feature of circi, although its size may be exaggerated to aid filmmaking. The golden dolphin lap counter was a feature of the Circus Maximus in Rome.

Charlton Heston spent four weeks learning how to drive a chariot. He was taught by the stunt crew, who offered to teach the entire cast, but Heston and Boyd were the only ones who took them up on the offer (Boyd had to learn in just two weeks, due to his late casting). At the beginning of the chariot race, Heston shook the reins and nothing happened; the horses remained motionless. Finally someone way up on top of the set yelled, "Giddy-up!" The horses then roared into action, and Heston was flung backward off the chariot.

To give the scene more impact and realism, three lifelike dummies were placed at key points in the race to give the appearance of men being run over by chariots. Most notable is the stand-in dummy for Stephen Boyd's Messala that gets tangled up under the horses, getting battered by their hooves. This resulted in one of the most grisly fatal injuries in motion picture history up until then, and shocked audiences.

There are several urban legends surrounding the chariot sequence, one of which states that a stuntman died during filming. Stuntman Nosher Powell claims in his autobiography, "We had a stunt man killed in the third week, and it happened right in front of me. You saw it, too, because the cameras kept turning and it's in the movie". There is no conclusive evidence to back up Powell's claim and it has been adamantly denied by director William Wyler, who states that neither man nor horse was injured in the famous scene. The movie's stunt director, Yakima Canutt, stated that no serious injuries or deaths occurred during filming.

Another urban legend states that a red Ferrari can be seen during the chariot race; the book Movie Mistakes claims this is a myth. (Heston, in the DVD commentary track, mentions a third urban legend that is not true: That he wore a wristwatch. He points out that he was wearing leather bracers right up to the elbow.)

However, one of the best-remembered moments in the race came from a near-fatal accident. When Ben-Hur's chariot jumps another chariot which has crashed in its path, the charioteer is seen to be almost thrown from his mount and only just manages to hang on and climb back in to continue the race. In reality, while the jump was planned, the character being flipped into the air was not planned, and stuntman Joe Canutt, son of stunt director Yakima Canutt, was considered fortunate to escape with only a minor chin injury. Nonetheless, when director Wyler intercut the long shot of Canutt's leap with a close-up of Heston clambering back into his chariot, a memorable scene resulted.
Wiki
 
k im out, i sent tim a pm for my next pick, if its taken skip me, ill be gone until the morning.

im down with Looney Tunes going to WC, i'd like to at least hear others opinions before anything final is decided, but im down with either ruling. Looney Tunes is a solid pick for either category

 
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k im out, i sent tim a pm for my next pick, if its taken skip me, ill be gone until the morning.im down with Looney Tunes going to WC, i'd like to at least hear others opinions before anything final is decided, but im down with either ruling. Looney Tunes is a solid pick for either category
Since they were not originally shown on TV, I don't think we can place them as TV Shows. If we open the category up to all things shown on TV regardless of original showing, we'll open it up to drafting movies that have been shown on TV and I don't think we should do that. :goodposting:
 
Been getting sniped left and right on novels, so I'd better take a backup here. Maybe I could take something with more literary snobbery attached to it :goodposting: , but I simply love this book.28.20 Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison (Novel)From Wiki:

Invisible Man is a novel written by Ralph Ellison, and the only one that he published during his lifetime. It won him the National Book Award in 1953. The novel addresses many of the social and intellectual issues facing African-Americans in the early twentieth century, including black nationalism, the relationship between black identity and Marxism, and the reformist racial policies of Booker T. Washington, as well as issues of individuality and personal identity.Time magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005.
 
29.02 - The Glass Menagerie - Tennessee Williams - Play

The Glass Menagerie is a play by Tennessee Williams that was originally written as a screenplay for MGM, to whom Williams was contracted. Initial ideas stemmed from one of his short stories, and the screenplay originally went under the name of 'The Gentleman Caller'. The play premiered in Chicago in 1944, and in 1945 won the prestigious New York Drama Critics Circle Award. The Glass Menagerie was Williams's first successful play; he went on to become one of America's most highly regarded playwrights.

The play was reworked from one of Williams's short stories "Portrait of a Girl in Glass" (written June 1943, published 1948). The story is also written from the point of view of narrator Tom Wingfield, and many of his monologues from Glass Menagerie seem lifted straight from this original. Certain elements have clearly been omitted from the play, including the reasoning for Laura's fascination with Jim's freckles (linked to a book she owned about a one-armed orphan) and an area by the house known as "Death Valley" that Laura's room looks out on. Generally the story contains the same plot as the play, with certain sections given more emphasis, and character details edited (Jim originally calls Tom "Slim", not "Shakespeare").

The Glass Menagerie is accounted by many to be an autobiographical play about Williams's life, the characters and story mimicking his own more closely than any of his other works. Williams (whose real name is Thomas) would be Tom, his Mother, Amanda, and his sickly and (supposedly) mentally ill sister Rose would be Laura (whose nickname in the play is "Blue Roses", a result of an unfortunate bout of Pleurosis as a high school student). It has been suggested as well that the character of Laura is based upon Williams himself, referencing his introvert nature and obsessive focus on one part of life (writing for Williams and glass animals in Laura's case).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glass_Menagerie

 
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Been getting sniped left and right on novels, so I'd better take a backup here. Maybe I could take something with more literary snobbery attached to it :( , but I simply love this book.28.20 Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison (Novel)From Wiki:

Invisible Man is a novel written by Ralph Ellison, and the only one that he published during his lifetime. It won him the National Book Award in 1953. The novel addresses many of the social and intellectual issues facing African-Americans in the early twentieth century, including black nationalism, the relationship between black identity and Marxism, and the reformist racial policies of Booker T. Washington, as well as issues of individuality and personal identity.Time magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005.
Was between this and The Glass Menagerie for my 29th pick. Nice pick. :goodposting:
 
Been getting sniped left and right on novels, so I'd better take a backup here. Maybe I could take something with more literary snobbery attached to it :goodposting: , but I simply love this book.28.20 Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison (Novel)From Wiki:

Invisible Man is a novel written by Ralph Ellison, and the only one that he published during his lifetime. It won him the National Book Award in 1953. The novel addresses many of the social and intellectual issues facing African-Americans in the early twentieth century, including black nationalism, the relationship between black identity and Marxism, and the reformist racial policies of Booker T. Washington, as well as issues of individuality and personal identity.Time magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005.
Dang.Was on the short short list for novels.
 
Postradamas' pick:

I'm gonna have to leave here soon, if this is available and I come up take it for me por favor

29.03 K-T Asteroid Theory of Dinosaur Extinction (1980)- Luis W. Alvarez - scientific discovery

Science Channel's #1 on top discoveries of evolution science

Walter Alvarez postulates that high levels of iridium found in rock core samples around the world provide evidence that an asteroid impact caused the extinction of dinosaurs. Iridium, a common mineral found in asteroids, was discovered in the clay layer at what is known as the K-T boundary. This layer, at 65 million years, lies between the rocks of the Cretaceous and the Tertiary periods and coincides with the mass extinction of dinosaurs.
I love me some dinosaurs, now I got the big 2 for their science. WOOThopefully this writeup won't jinx me.
 
k im out, i sent tim a pm for my next pick, if its taken skip me, ill be gone until the morning.im down with Looney Tunes going to WC, i'd like to at least hear others opinions before anything final is decided, but im down with either ruling. Looney Tunes is a solid pick for either category
You can't let up this quickly. You have to hold your ground and argue relentlessly for your picks for several pages. Only after 36 hours of bickering, 5 extra pages added to this thread and timschochet threatening to quit can you agree and have your picked moved.
 
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OK, with my next pick, I'm going to continue with my Jewish theme...

Not really.

29.04 James Brown- Live At The Apollo! (1963) (Album)

From Allmusic:

An astonishing record of James and the Flames tearing the roof off the sucker at the mecca of R&B theatres, New York's Apollo. When King Records owner Syd Nathan refused to fund the recording, thinking it commercial folly, Brown single-mindedly proceeded anyway, paying for it out of his own pocket. He had been out on the road night after night for a while, and he knew that the magic that was part and parcel of a James Brown show was something no record had ever caught. Hit follows hit without a pause — "I'll Go Crazy," "Try Me," "Think," "Please Please Please," "I Don't Mind," "Night Train," and more. The affirmative screams and cries of the audience are something you've never experienced unless you've seen the Brown Revue in a Black theater. If you have, I need not say more; if you haven't, suffice to say that this should be one of the very first records you ever own.

 
Been getting sniped left and right on novels, so I'd better take a backup here. Maybe I could take something with more literary snobbery attached to it :) , but I simply love this book.28.20 Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison (Novel)From Wiki:

Invisible Man is a novel written by Ralph Ellison, and the only one that he published during his lifetime. It won him the National Book Award in 1953. The novel addresses many of the social and intellectual issues facing African-Americans in the early twentieth century, including black nationalism, the relationship between black identity and Marxism, and the reformist racial policies of Booker T. Washington, as well as issues of individuality and personal identity.Time magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005.
Was between this and The Glass Menagerie for my 29th pick. Nice pick. :thumbup:
Thank you! Right back atcha. Fine pick.
 
k im out, i sent tim a pm for my next pick, if its taken skip me, ill be gone until the morning.im down with Looney Tunes going to WC, i'd like to at least hear others opinions before anything final is decided, but im down with either ruling. Looney Tunes is a solid pick for either category
You can't let up this quickly. You have to hold your ground and argue relentlessly for your picks for several pages. Only after 36 hours of bickering, 5 extra pages added to this thread and timschochet threatening to quit can you agree and have your picked moved.
:thumbup:
 
Good time for a status update after that string of picks......

SKIPPED

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

26.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

27.05 - Doug B - (autoskip)

28.06 - Bob Lee Swagger (autoskip)

28.10 - El Floppo (autoskip if not here in first 15)

28.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

28.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

29.01 - Fennis (autoskip)

29.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

29.06 - Abrantes - Up

29.07 - BobbyLayne - On Deck

29.08 - Tides of War - In the Hole

29.09 - Wikkidpissah

29.10 - Thatguy

29.11 - El Floppo

29.12 - Team CIA

29.13 - Uncle Humuna

29.14 - MisfitBlondes

 
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I may not always love you

But long as there are stars above you

You never need to doubt it

I'll make you so sure about it...

29.06 The Beach Boys' God Only Knows (Song)

This hasn't been picked yet? What's wrong with y'all???

Some of the greatest harmonies ever.

 
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I'm so confused.

Whose a!@ am I supposed to be kissing to counteract Wikkid?

Please forward your answer to my office in triplicate with signatures by the current commissioner, the commissioner-elect, and Krista (whom I suspect is the Black Pope of this thing).

TIA! :) :o
:bag: Dunno 'bout Black Pope. How 'bout a
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: "Them mother!@#$%$ can't wait to get to Allah. And take 8 mother!@#$#2 with them."

I :wub: Pryor. Oh man.

 

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