Official Great Works Draft (4 Viewers)

[krista4]

Could I get a nemesis update? I'm losing track of who belongs to whom.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

i'm out of the draft. for all intents & purposes, i'm out of the FFA.Borderline Personality Disorder (look it up) used to be an aberration, the armor of those incapable of creating positive feeling about themselves. now it is a lifestyle choice. there's a reason for that & one need look no farther than the face one shaves/tweezes in the morning. morality lies not in a church, decency not in a crusade. to have what we must to succeed as a society, each heart & soul must be defended and kept worthy of that defense. the first step in that vigilence is paying attention to one's surroundings to see where one can contribute, correct those who obstruct. the last is to invest enough of oneself to be of aid in the flow of human discourse. it's just as simple as that. we are herd animals - if the one who endangers the many is not isolated and, further, ostracized, the community comes under risk of attack, from without & within. in the last generation, the laissez-faire legacy of 60s openness & mellow has devolved into a code of selfishness & oblivion worthy of Ancient Rome. we have tended our personal & societal borders so poorly that most dont even know they exist or are supposed to exist. this is a way of woe.i'm a fat old man whose health indicators say that heart attack #4 is close at hand - i dont have much longer to worry about it. but you should - it is the dictate of being human to have always left the world better than you found it. your complacency can make this generation the first that didnt. Flysack has never offered these forums anything but "tude". when i told him, b4 the draft, that his act made him unworthy to be a judge of the GWD, he not only went ballistic on me (here & :e:lsewhere) but has apparently sought to be a disruptive influence since. i dont know how he found his way onto Team BL but, well that's BL's call. with his teammate otherwise engaged, Flysack spent his energy using the off-clock of the last 2 wkends jacking up the draft - not only holding up forever but coming on to announce that he didnt feel lie drafting right now. hence, my ultimatum. there's is no better evidence that the lil punk knew what he was doing than that he drafted almost immediately after i drew a line in the sand, not knowing which way the wind would blow.Turns out there was a doldrums the likes of which i havent seen since Mutiny on the Bounty (sorry for the spotlighting). Not only does this moral lassitude spit on what value i have tried to add to these boards, it makes me realize that i am drafting among people who are not fit to be arbiters of aesthetics. until there is as much will as taste behind your choices, you are merely customers. cant say i dont have genuine affection for a few of you, but you have forced the realization upon me that my time can be better spent. next time you wonder what wikkid would say about something, realise you've yourself to thank for not knowing. nufced.

Wikkid Come Back,Any kind of Fool could see,Flysacks wrong,And we just can't draft without you.....................We need people with intelligence and vision in this draft

Forget it Pissah.It's Kristatown.

 

[Postradamus]

Could I get a nemesis update? I'm losing track of who belongs to whom.

just remember, you and I were never friends to begin with.

 

[krista4]

Could I get a nemesis update? I'm losing track of who belongs to whom.

just remember, you and I were never friends to begin with.

 

[Postradamus]

Could I get a nemesis update? I'm losing track of who belongs to whom.

just remember, you and I were never friends to begin with.

just kidding! shtick suprise!

 

[krista4]

So, I don't know if rodg or tim is in charge now, but I think we have to take care of a little business, yes? From what I know of wikkid, there is no chance that he will come back. I know most of us wish he would change his mind, but I put the chances of that at -0%. That's right--negative zero percent; that's how low the chances are.

Unless we want to disband the draft entirely (which I can't imagine we do, but I throw that out there only because this was wikkid's baby), we need to get new judges for songs, albums, and compositions. And we should decide what to do with wikkid's team--have someone else take it over for the balance or just leave it out (I'd vote for the latter).

Whatcha think?

ETA: And Hummus, I think you're up.

 

[Abrantes]

For Unc:

29.13 Walden - Henry David Thoreau (Non-Fiction)

El Write-up when he gets back.

 

[Postradamus]

For Unc:

29.13 Walden - Henry David Thoreau (Non-Fiction)

El Write-up when he gets back.

good pick, wanted this to keep falling...damn

 

[PatsWillWin]

next time you wonder what wikkid would say about something, realise you've yourself to thank for not knowing. nufced.

 

[El Floppo]

skip me.

jeebus... what have I missed here?

 

[wikkidpissah]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

 

[rodg12]

So, I don't know if rodg or tim is in charge now, but I think we have to take care of a little business, yes? From what I know of wikkid, there is no chance that he will come back. I know most of us wish he would change his mind, but I put the chances of that at -0%. That's right--negative zero percent; that's how low the chances are.

Unless we want to disband the draft entirely (which I can't imagine we do, but I throw that out there only because this was wikkid's baby), we need to get new judges for songs, albums, and compositions. And we should decided what to do with wikkid's team--have someone else take it over for the balance or just leave it out (I'd vote for the latter).

Whatcha think?

ETA: And Hummus, I think you're up.

Technically it's still Tim because we're not through round 30 yet, but I can go ahead and provide my input. I like your idea of just finishing this puppy with 19 teams and leaving wikkid's team as is. Uncle Humuna, since I remember you judging the musical peformers category in the WGD and doing a good job of it, I was wondering if you would be willing to pick up 1 or even all of the categories wikkid was supposed to judge? Any one else willing to judge one?

 

[Postradamus]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

hate to see you leave like thishope the rest of your time treats you well if you don't come 'round here anymore.

 

[Postradamus]

Could I get a nemesis update? I'm losing track of who belongs to whom.

I'm pretty sure everyone loves me.

but only for your sexy team

 

[krista4]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

hate to see you leave like thishope the rest of your time treats you well if you don't come 'round here anymore.

 

[rodg12]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

hate to see you leave like thishope the rest of your time treats you well if you don't come 'round here anymore.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

That's solid value in the 29th round. Way better than most of the other #### you've picked so far.

 

[TidesofWar]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

I wish you would stay, man - it WAS your idea, and your humor will be missed to me, at least - as will your ability to judge There is a certain symmetry about exiting with this pick, however

 

[Abrantes]

one more pick b4 i go:

29.09 - CENTRAL HEATING & COOLING, invention

and krista's right. this was never about getting folks to ask me back. nor was it about Flysack. just movin on....

That's solid value in the 29th round. Way better than most of the other #### you've picked so far.

:### slapping:

 

[BobbyLayne]

Just checking in...am I up? and is wikkid out? FM

BTW - you suck Abrantes. I am at my own personal Walden Pond this weekend, the place I come to recharge a few times a year. That was to be my 'inspirational pick' Saturday a.m. but I didn't come up before I left.

Sorry to hear pissah is leaving...I feel bad for any indirect part I may have played in that.

Best to you, pard.

ETA: Nevermind, I see now Abrantes was picking for UH, I'm not up until 30.14. Heading back to the city, cya folks tonight.

 

[Abrantes]

Just checking in...am I up? and is wikkid out? FM

BTW - you suck Abrantes. I am at my own personal Walden Pond this weekend, the place I come to recharge a few times a year. That was to be my 'inspirational pick' Saturday a.m. but I didn't come up before I left.

Sorry to hear pissah is leaving...I feel bad for any indirect part I may have played in that.

Best to you, pard.

ETA: Nevermind, I see now Abrantes was picking for UH, I'm not up until 30.14. Heading back to the city, cya folks tonight.

That's right! Can't pin this one on me!

 

[Bonzai]

flysack taking wikkid's place?

 

[flysack]

i'm out of the draft. for all intents & purposes, i'm out of the FFA.Borderline Personality Disorder (look it up) used to be an aberration, the armor of those incapable of creating positive feeling about themselves. now it is a lifestyle choice. there's a reason for that & one need look no farther than the face one shaves/tweezes in the morning. morality lies not in a church, decency not in a crusade. to have what we must to succeed as a society, each heart & soul must be defended and kept worthy of that defense. the first step in that vigilence is paying attention to one's surroundings to see where one can contribute, correct those who obstruct. the last is to invest enough of oneself to be of aid in the flow of human discourse. it's just as simple as that. we are herd animals - if the one who endangers the many is not isolated and, further, ostracized, the community comes under risk of attack, from without & within. in the last generation, the laissez-faire legacy of 60s openness & mellow has devolved into a code of selfishness & oblivion worthy of Ancient Rome. we have tended our personal & societal borders so poorly that most dont even know they exist or are supposed to exist. this is a way of woe.i'm a fat old man whose health indicators say that heart attack #4 is close at hand - i dont have much longer to worry about it. but you should - it is the dictate of being human to have always left the world better than you found it. your complacency can make this generation the first that didnt. Flysack has never offered these forums anything but "tude". when i told him, b4 the draft, that his act made him unworthy to be a judge of the GWD, he not only went ballistic on me (here & :e:lsewhere) but has apparently sought to be a disruptive influence since. i dont know how he found his way onto Team BL but, well that's BL's call. with his teammate otherwise engaged, Flysack spent his energy using the off-clock of the last 2 wkends jacking up the draft - not only holding up forever but coming on to announce that he didnt feel lie drafting right now. hence, my ultimatum. there's is no better evidence that the lil punk knew what he was doing than that he drafted almost immediately after i drew a line in the sand, not knowing which way the wind would blow.Turns out there was a doldrums the likes of which i havent seen since Mutiny on the Bounty (sorry for the spotlighting). Not only does this moral lassitude spit on what value i have tried to add to these boards, it makes me realize that i am drafting among people who are not fit to be arbiters of aesthetics. until there is as much will as taste behind your choices, you are merely customers. cant say i dont have genuine affection for a few of you, but you have forced the realization upon me that my time can be better spent. next time you wonder what wikkid would say about something, realise you've yourself to thank for not knowing. nufced.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules or took a few liberties with our female guests. We did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few sick, perverted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg , isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do what you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America!

/thread.

 

[flysack]

This draft is waaaaaay too real for me. Everyone is doin' it wrong.

Stop.

Nemesis check -I'm on Abrantes' side.

Wikkid is my nemesis.

TidesofWar is waiting in the wings to take his spot.

Krista is the Black Pope. Or the Double Black Muslim. It depends if she's your nemesis. We currently have an armistice, so I'm not worried.

BobbyLayne is my wary teammate, though given the chance, he'd probably feed me to Wikkid's avatar.

Misfitblondes is the nemesis of Tim, but all that's taken a backseat to Wikkidmania. However, with Wikkid's departure I expect the Misfitblondes-Tim contest to take over the headlines again when Misfitblondes drafts "Wikkidmania" as a NOVEL.

I think that's it. Feel free to add your own.

 

[Postradamus]

whos up?

 

[Postradamus]

SKIPPED

23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

26.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

27.05 - Doug B - (autoskip)

28.10 - El Floppo (autoskip if not here in first 15)

28.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

28.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

29.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

29.09 - Wikkidpissah - Up

29.10 - Thatguy - (autoskip)

29.11 - El Floppo - (autoskip if not here in first 15)

29.12 - Team CIA (autoskip)

29.13 - Uncle Humuna

29.14 - MisfitBlondes make yo pick, beautiful

29.15 - Bob Lee Swagger

29.16 - Scott Norwood

29.17 - DC Thunder

29.18 - Genedoc

29.19 - Tirnan (autoskip if not around)

29.20 - Yankee23Fan

 

[Finless]

After all, this is a very carefully moderated messageboard, and I haven't done anything to merit a TO from the mods. So if I can get to you this easily, then how would you handle a pro's shtick? Jeezus man, someone like Truckasaurus could unintentionally kill you. Literally.

The best thing for you might be to lock yourself up in the nice, safe, ethical womb of your bedroom and live out your days as pleasantly as you can.

Best to you. And best to your health.

wat

Wikkid claimed that he's on the verge of a 4th heart attack. He flipped out on me for basically nothing. I wasn't even "engaged" with him.If my weekend draft delay is enough to get him this worked up, what would happen if he ran array of someone like Truckasaurus or Finless or one of the other masters of shtick? They could literally kill the guy (i.e. give him a fourth heart attack).

See?

finless?

is there some sort of problem here?

 

[Postradamus]

After all, this is a very carefully moderated messageboard, and I haven't done anything to merit a TO from the mods. So if I can get to you this easily, then how would you handle a pro's shtick? Jeezus man, someone like Truckasaurus could unintentionally kill you. Literally.

The best thing for you might be to lock yourself up in the nice, safe, ethical womb of your bedroom and live out your days as pleasantly as you can.

Best to you. And best to your health.

wat

Wikkid claimed that he's on the verge of a 4th heart attack. He flipped out on me for basically nothing. I wasn't even "engaged" with him.If my weekend draft delay is enough to get him this worked up, what would happen if he ran array of someone like Truckasaurus or Finless or one of the other masters of shtick? They could literally kill the guy (i.e. give him a fourth heart attack).

See?

finless?

is there some sort of problem here?

problem?

 

[Abrantes]

is there some sort of problem here?

problem?

Wasn't ObliviousShtickTM claimed in the 2009 Shtick Draft already?

 

[Postradamus]

is there some sort of problem here?

problem?

Wasn't ObliviousShtickTM claimed in the 2009 Shtick Draft already?

I missed that one...and I follow NOBODY'S rules except my own.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

It seems that most of the fun stuff happens on the weekends. I'm pretty sure I've read every post in this thread. I'm also pretty sure I have no idea what just happened.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying the thread as I did the others. And you guys are missing out on a huge value awesome to see structure at this point that I would take if I didn't have the monster theme going for me.

 

[Postradamus]

29.14 The heaven and the earth - Invention.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

awesome timing.I think those are separate though, and god doesn't count as a person right?

 

[TidesofWar]

29.14 The heaven and the earth - Invention.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

awesome timing.I think those are separate though, and god doesn't count as a person right?

I've never met the guy, so I can't say.

Deities and their works are not on the Board

 

[flysack]

29.14 The heaven and the earth - Invention.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

awesome timing.I think those are separate though, and god doesn't count as a person right?

I've never met the guy, so I can't say.

One moment. I'm conferring with Crosseyed. BRB.

 

[timschochet]

OK, just checked in for a moment and I have to leave shortly again. It appears that we have several decisions to make:

1. Rodg12, I behaved like a spoiled brat on Friday. I signed on to do this thing, and if you don't want the responsibility, I'll keep it. It's up to you. If you want me to stay commissioner I will, and I will not not threaten to quit anymore. Of course, if you want to be in charge, you can. I'll let you decide.

2.wikkidpissah, it appears you're serious about leaving. That's too bad, I'll miss you. I won't comment on your specific complaints except to say I consider both you AND Flysack to be interesting people to read- and in the end, that's really all we should care about. I hope your health concerns turn out OK. PM me if there's anything else I can do for you. Good luck!

3.Krista's proposal, seconded by Rodg12 is a fine one. We will keep WP's picks and rank them when the time comes, and at this point we'll have 19 drafters for the duration.

We do need musical judges. If no one volunteers, I will do it. (With everyone's permission, I am going to switch Eine Klein Nachtmusic back to a composition. I never really bought into WP's idea that one of the greatest and most famous works of all time belonged as a "song.")

4. Misfit Blondes, a few weeks back I joked with Krista that I should list "God" as an invention (since I am an atheist.) I wasn't going to do it, though the response would have been interesting. However, even in that supposed selection, it could have been acceptable based on the idea that the creator was still a human being. Since the God of Genesis is not a human being (since human beings were not created at the time He created the Earth) your choice is not acceptable.

 

[anborn]

For Unc:

29.13 Walden - Henry David Thoreau (Non-Fiction)

El Write-up when he gets back.

good pick, wanted this to keep falling...damn

 

[Abrantes]

What does God need with a starship draft?

 

[timschochet]

Woah woah woah the #### on. Didn't you allow The Old Testament as NON FICTION? Isn't the Old Testament the WORD of God? If you're going to allow this guy's ideas as a valid entry in the non fiction category, you CERTAINLY cannot not allow the guy himself!

Thank you for your input. I appreciate reading all opinions and I take each one into account.

 

[timschochet]

Since the God of Genesis is not a human being (since human beings were not created at the time He created the Earth) your choice is not acceptable.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

I wasn't happy to allow the bible as non fiction, I'm just going with the flow.

As before, I respect your opinion and we disagree. I am but one of three judges and you are certainly welcome to appeal my decision.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Working on some Mahi Mahi tacos. Homemade tortiallas. Salsa Verde. Guacamole. Safron rice and refried beans.

I'm in over my head.

 

[timschochet]

Gotta go, guys! I'll be back later, the draft moves on:

1. Rodg, let me know if you want me to stay on or if you want to be commissioner.

2. Anyone want to judge some music categories? If not, I'll do it.

3. MisfitBlondes, pick again or appeal. If you choose to do neither, your subsequent picks will be ignored until you do. TIA

 

[krista4]

Working on some Mahi Mahi tacos. Homemade tortiallas. Salsa Verde. Guacamole. Safron rice and refried beans.I'm in over my head.

Homemade tortillas? :impressed:Mr. krista4 is making seafood risotto, and the smell is driving me mad.

 

[Abrantes]

Mahi-Mahi tacos? That sounds zany.

Although the disposition is certainly there, I don't know if I'm capable of setting aside my bias for music judging.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Working on some Mahi Mahi tacos. Homemade tortiallas. Salsa Verde. Guacamole. Safron rice and refried beans.I'm in over my head.

Homemade tortillas? :impressed:Mr. krista4 is making seafood risotto, and the smell is driving me mad.

My first attempt at the tortillas, so don't get impressed yet.Seafood risotto sounds good, especially if someone else is doing all that stirring.

 

[Chiwawa]

i'm out of the draft. for all intents & purposes, i'm out of the FFA.Borderline Personality Disorder (look it up) used to be an aberration, the armor of those incapable of creating positive feeling about themselves. now it is a lifestyle choice. there's a reason for that & one need look no farther than the face one shaves/tweezes in the morning. morality lies not in a church, decency not in a crusade. to have what we must to succeed as a society, each heart & soul must be defended and kept worthy of that defense. the first step in that vigilence is paying attention to one's surroundings to see where one can contribute, correct those who obstruct. the last is to invest enough of oneself to be of aid in the flow of human discourse. it's just as simple as that. we are herd animals - if the one who endangers the many is not isolated and, further, ostracized, the community comes under risk of attack, from without & within. in the last generation, the laissez-faire legacy of 60s openness & mellow has devolved into a code of selfishness & oblivion worthy of Ancient Rome. we have tended our personal & societal borders so poorly that most dont even know they exist or are supposed to exist. this is a way of woe.i'm a fat old man whose health indicators say that heart attack #4 is close at hand - i dont have much longer to worry about it. but you should - it is the dictate of being human to have always left the world better than you found it. your complacency can make this generation the first that didnt. Flysack has never offered these forums anything but "tude". when i told him, b4 the draft, that his act made him unworthy to be a judge of the GWD, he not only went ballistic on me (here & :e:lsewhere) but has apparently sought to be a disruptive influence since. i dont know how he found his way onto Team BL but, well that's BL's call. with his teammate otherwise engaged, Flysack spent his energy using the off-clock of the last 2 wkends jacking up the draft - not only holding up forever but coming on to announce that he didnt feel lie drafting right now. hence, my ultimatum. there's is no better evidence that the lil punk knew what he was doing than that he drafted almost immediately after i drew a line in the sand, not knowing which way the wind would blow.Turns out there was a doldrums the likes of which i havent seen since Mutiny on the Bounty (sorry for the spotlighting). Not only does this moral lassitude spit on what value i have tried to add to these boards, it makes me realize that i am drafting among people who are not fit to be arbiters of aesthetics. until there is as much will as taste behind your choices, you are merely customers. cant say i dont have genuine affection for a few of you, but you have forced the realization upon me that my time can be better spent. next time you wonder what wikkid would say about something, realise you've yourself to thank for not knowing. nufced.

So...um...did you report me?

 

[krista4]

Working on some Mahi Mahi tacos. Homemade tortiallas. Salsa Verde. Guacamole. Safron rice and refried beans.I'm in over my head.

Homemade tortillas? :impressed:Mr. krista4 is making seafood risotto, and the smell is driving me mad.

My first attempt at the tortillas, so don't get impressed yet.Seafood risotto sounds good, especially if someone else is doing all that stirring.

We're about three hours in, and I've seen no evidence that he's even at the stirring stage yet. I think he's still making the stock.Your meal sounds outstanding. Mr. krista4 is a whiz at seafood-based tacos but has not attempted the homemade tortillas. I think I'll go complain.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Working on some Mahi Mahi tacos. Homemade tortiallas. Salsa Verde. Guacamole. Safron rice and refried beans.I'm in over my head.

Homemade tortillas? :impressed:Mr. krista4 is making seafood risotto, and the smell is driving me mad.

My first attempt at the tortillas, so don't get impressed yet.Seafood risotto sounds good, especially if someone else is doing all that stirring.

We're about three hours in, and I've seen no evidence that he's even at the stirring stage yet. I think he's still making the stock.Your meal sounds outstanding. Mr. krista4 is a whiz at seafood-based tacos but has not attempted the homemade tortillas. I think I'll go complain.

Every time I've used store bought tortillas they've been awful. Enough is enough.

 

[TidesofWar]

Woah woah woah the #### on. Didn't you allow The Old Testament as NON FICTION? Isn't the Old Testament the WORD of God? If you're going to allow this guy's ideas as a valid entry in the non fiction category, you CERTAINLY cannot not allow the guy himself!

Thank you for your input. I appreciate reading all opinions and I take each one into account.

For the purposes of this draft, I concur with The OT as Non-Fiction.Whether you agree with the ideas of The Bible, The Koran, The Book of Mormon, et al, it remains that all these type works were to be presented as Non-Fiction.It should also be noted that many works of Non-Fiction present many ficticious or false ideas and tenets.I chalk the idea of drafting God up along with the Immaculate Reception and Wrestlemania - semi-noble attempts to think out of the box, create controversy, and push the envelope to the falling point.I would also like Tim to remain as Commish, as I feel it would lend continuity to the entire process.I am a bit puzzled as to why so many want to quit - I disagree with some things and think there are some here who are a bit petty and selfish, but that is life. I have enjoyed this thing, and the opportunity to learn new things, and re-learn old.I am glad Bobby Layne stayed, and would be pleased if Wikkid did as well.If not, good luck to you, wikkidpissah, and CHEERS to your good health

 

[krista4]

Working on some Mahi Mahi tacos. Homemade tortiallas. Salsa Verde. Guacamole. Safron rice and refried beans.I'm in over my head.

Homemade tortillas? :impressed:Mr. krista4 is making seafood risotto, and the smell is driving me mad.

My first attempt at the tortillas, so don't get impressed yet.Seafood risotto sounds good, especially if someone else is doing all that stirring.

We're about three hours in, and I've seen no evidence that he's even at the stirring stage yet. I think he's still making the stock.Your meal sounds outstanding. Mr. krista4 is a whiz at seafood-based tacos but has not attempted the homemade tortillas. I think I'll go complain.

Every time I've used store bought tortillas they've been awful. Enough is enough.

Gotta be a Mexican or other Hispanic market in your neighborhood where you can get good ones, no? That's what we do.

 

[rodg12]

Tim - I'm cool with you staying on as commish for the duration. Always better to stay consistent when you have the opportunity to do so.

As for the Heavens and Earth pick as an invention, it doesn't meet the criteria we set forth requiring us knowing when it was created. Our best guess at the age of the Earth has a margin of error of hundreds of millions of years (current studies place it and 4.5-4.6 billion years old Link). For the same reason the wheel was nullified, this should be nullified.

ETA: Thanks for re-picking MfB and not dragging this out.