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Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)

Yeah, we have another clay pot for jasmine (sticky) rice.

I love clay cookware - started using clay bread pans and cookie sheets about 15 years ago.

 
flysack said:
ALSO ALSO!

I have now *officially* cut ties with Team BobbyLayne and am a free agent.

While I'm not looking for another team, I will answer any unsolicited pms for literary advice in the most arrogant and pretentious tone possible.

:thumbup:
Did you guys post the competing back stories? If not please do. TIA
 
I'm going to grab a TV show here. I know I know I know - I can't judge it. :thumbup:

A little personal background before I let it be known what my pick is. Being my mid 30's this program was a long standing icon before it came into my life. Truth be told, it was geared towards an older audience. Except, to me, it wasn't. It was without question the best show of its kind and I don't think it has been matched. The star of the show was one of the funniest men I've ever seen. He was also one of the most powerfully emotional people in the truest sense of the word while on screen. When he died a few years ago, American entertainment lost a giant. And the men that filled his shoes after he retired from being one of the most welcome guests in American homes for 30 years simply can't compare to what he was. A titan.

The show was part of the family for millions upon millions of homes. The characters from the show became iconic and many still are. The precedent for many current shows in the genre were started here, and perfected. But like I said I may have been too young to enjoy as much as I could have. But I will never forget when his son died, and he gave him a tribute of a loving father filled with grief and pride. His next to last show was one of the best ever in TV history with guests Robin Williams and Bette Midler lighting up the screen. No audience of any age couldn't help but be moved by the duet that was sung to end the trip.

His final words to us all were perfect, "And so it has come to this: I, uh... am one of the lucky people in the world; I found something I always wanted to do and I have enjoyed every single minute of it. I want to thank the gentlemen who've shared this stage with me for thirty years. Mr. Ed McMahon, Mr. Doc Severinsen, and you people watching. I can only tell you that it has been an honor and a privilege to come into your homes all these years and entertain you. And I hope when I find something that I want to do and I think you would like and come back that you'll be as gracious in inviting me into your home as you have been. I bid you a very heartfelt good night."

I select, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson
Well, there goes one of the two picks Fennis sent me to use for him this weekend.
:unsure:
 
flysack said:
ALSO ALSO!

I have now *officially* cut ties with Team BobbyLayne and am a free agent.

While I'm not looking for another team, I will answer any unsolicited pms for literary advice in the most arrogant and pretentious tone possible.

:(
Did you guys post the competing back stories? If not please do. TIA
Its sort of like when Jerry had a perfectly mutual break-up with Jeannie over the summer. Nothing to tell. :(

HOWEVER, I understand Flysack spends a good deal of his free time writing. So if he wants to post something creative, I'm down.

:thumbup:

 
She is the Fruit Loop.Business operate on the premise they are to show profit.
Of course they (corn growing welfare recipients) have to make a profit, else they could not afford lobbyists.
My baby momma is in public health and said this book is standard fare for anyone who works in health & human services. She was pretty impressed by the pick (she has been lurking this draft).
 
Team Norwood/Anborn selects.....

37.16 - The Sound of Music (Rodgers and Hammerstein, 1959) - Play

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_of_music

The Sound of Music is a musical with music by Richard Rodgers, lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein II and a book by Howard Lindsay and Russel Crouse. It is based on the memoir of Maria von Trapp, The Story of the Trapp Family Singers. Many songs from the musical have become standards, including the title song "The Sound of Music", "Edelweiss", "My Favorite Things", "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" and "Do-Re-Mi".

The original Broadway production, starring Mary Martin and Theodore Bikel, opened in November 1959, and the show has enjoyed numerous productions and revivals since then. It has also been made into an Academy Award-winning 1965 film musical. The Sound of Music was the final musical written by Rodgers and Hammerstein; Hammerstein died of cancer nine months after the Broadway premiere.
38.05 - Ride of the Valkyries (Wagner, 1851) - Compositionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_of_the_Valkyries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSKL5E3zSjs

Kill the Wabbit
That's really all that need be said. I mean sure it's the popular term for the beginning of Act III of Die Walküre by Richard Wagner, and arguably his most famous and influential work... but really its all about "What's Opera Rabbit".

39.16 - Peace of Paris (UK, France, Spain, USA, 1783) - Political Document

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Paris_(1783)

If I can't take the Peace of Paris which is really the collection of 2 treaties that end the American Revolution, I'll just take the Treaty of Paris of 1783. While the Declaration of Independence was nice... If the US didn't win the Revolution, and thus be recognized as 13 free, sovereign and independent states... the Declaration would be almost meaningless.

 
38.05 - Ride of the Valkyries (Wagner, 1851) - Composition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_of_the_Valkyries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSKL5E3zSjs

Kill the Wabbit
That's really all that need be said. I mean sure it's the popular term for the beginning of Act III of Die Walküre by Richard Wagner, and arguably his most famous and influential work... but really its all about "What's Opera Rabbit".
Sorry, it seems like I'm always the bearer of "hasn't this been chosen" news, but someone chose Der Ring des Nibelungen very early on, which would encompass this, yes?
 
MisfitBlondes said:
38.05 - Ride of the Valkyries (Wagner, 1851) - Composition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_of_the_Valkyries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSKL5E3zSjs

Kill the Wabbit
That's really all that need be said. I mean sure it's the popular term for the beginning of Act III of Die Walküre by Richard Wagner, and arguably his most famous and influential work... but really its all about "What's Opera Rabbit".
Sorry, it seems like I'm always the bearer of "hasn't this been chosen" news, but someone chose Der Ring des Nibelungen very early on, which would encompass this, yes?
It doesn't matter...I still have no clue who this Wagner guy is. :thumbup:
Wagner
 
MisfitBlondes said:
38.05 - Ride of the Valkyries (Wagner, 1851) - Composition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_of_the_Valkyries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSKL5E3zSjs

Kill the Wabbit
That's really all that need be said. I mean sure it's the popular term for the beginning of Act III of Die Walküre by Richard Wagner, and arguably his most famous and influential work... but really its all about "What's Opera Rabbit".
Sorry, it seems like I'm always the bearer of "hasn't this been chosen" news, but someone chose Der Ring des Nibelungen very early on, which would encompass this, yes?
It doesn't matter...I still have no clue who this Wagner guy is. :confused:
Wagner
:no: Wagner
 
I saw The People's Court being filmed twice. Once was a field trip for school -- god our education system sucks. Anyway, the worst part of The People's Court, is you expect that Wapner would make his decision during the commercial break, but it turns out he went back in his chambers for 30-60 minutes after each case. Boring.We did get to mock Doug Llewelyn which was fun and Rusty is as cool in person as he appeared to be on the show.

/name dropping

 
I'm baaaaaaack. Current status:

38.05 - Scott Norwood/Anborn (repick needed, Work "The Three Rings" already take which includes your selection)

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38.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

39.06 - Abrantes (autoskip)

39.10 - Thatguy

39.11 - El Floppo

39.17 - DC Thunder - Up

39.18 - Genedoc

39.19 - Tirnan (autoskip if not around)

39.20 - Yankee23Fan

40.01 - Yankee23Fan

40.02 - Tirnan (autoskip if not around)

40.03 - Genedoc

40.04 - DC Thunder

40.05 - Scott Norwood/Anborn

40.06 - Bob Lee Swagger (autoskip after 15 min OTC if not around)

40.07 - MisfitBlondes

40.08 - Uncle Humuna

40.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)

40.10 - El Floppo (autoskip if not here in first 15)

40.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

40.12 - Big Rocks

40.13 - Tides of War

40.14 - BobbyLayne (autoskip)

40.15 - Abrantes (autoskip)

40.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

40.17 - Timscochet

40.18 - Postradamus

40.19 - Rodg

40.20 - Krista

 
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My wife forwarded me an email that said:

A thief in Paris planned to steal some paintings from the Louvre. After careful planning, he got past security, stole the paintings, and made it safely to his van.My wife forwarded me an email that said:However, he was captured only two blocks away when his van ran out of gas.When asked how he could mastermind such a crime and then make such an obvious error, he replied, 'Monsieur, that is the reason I stole the paintings.' I had no Monet to buy Degas to make the Van Gogh.' See if you have De Gaulle to send this on to someone else. I sent it to you because I figured I had nothing Toulouse.
I am thinking of divorcing her.
 
My wife forwarded me an email that said:

A thief in Paris planned to steal some paintings from the Louvre. After careful planning, he got past security, stole the paintings, and made it safely to his van.My wife forwarded me an email that said:However, he was captured only two blocks away when his van ran out of gas.When asked how he could mastermind such a crime and then make such an obvious error, he replied, 'Monsieur, that is the reason I stole the paintings.' I had no Monet to buy Degas to make the Van Gogh.' See if you have De Gaulle to send this on to someone else. I sent it to you because I figured I had nothing Toulouse.
I am thinking of divorcing her.
Start hiding the Monet.
 
Little surprised by the pick of The Sound of Music (play). It's an outstanding movie, but a rather ordinary stage musical. In fact, given the tremendous plays of Rodgers and Hammerstein, this is rather low on the list.

I have to say, I have a mental list of the top ten stage musicals of all time, and none of them have been selected.

 
Little surprised by the pick of The Sound of Music (play). It's an outstanding movie, but a rather ordinary stage musical. In fact, given the tremendous plays of Rodgers and Hammerstein, this is rather low on the list.

I have to say, I have a mental list of the top ten stage musicals of all time, and none of them have been selected.
I've got two that jump to mind immediately- also not yet picked... wonder if they're on your list.eta: btw, Tim- if your av is from My Favorite Year :goodposting: ... some of my favorite bits come from that ("if I were drunk, could I do this"... "what a beautiful dress"- "do you like? I only wore it once"

 
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Little surprised by the pick of The Sound of Music (play). It's an outstanding movie, but a rather ordinary stage musical. In fact, given the tremendous plays of Rodgers and Hammerstein, this is rather low on the list.

I have to say, I have a mental list of the top ten stage musicals of all time, and none of them have been selected.
I've got two that jump to mind immediately- also not yet picked... wonder if they're on your list.
I'll certainly let you know.
 
Fennis said:
My wife forwarded me an email that said:

A thief in Paris planned to steal some paintings from the Louvre.

After careful planning, he got past security, stole the paintings, and made it safely to his van.

My wife forwarded me an email that said:

However, he was captured only two blocks away when his van ran out of gas.

When asked how he could mastermind such a crime and then make such an obvious error, he replied, 'Monsieur, that is the reason I stole the paintings.'

I had no Monet

to buy Degas

to make the Van Gogh.'

See if you have De Gaulle to send this on to someone else.

I sent it to you because I figured I had nothing Toulouse.
I am thinking of divorcing her.
:thumbup:
 
timschochet said:
BobbyLayne said:
That's just one example. Personally I see nothing wrong with taking a painting or rap song, a great work that isn't iconic but was groundbreaking or influential. But what I don't want to see is The Long March or the Repulse of Pickett's Charge or the extraction from the Hotel Rwanda. None of those things are a great work. Apollo 13 and D-Day, while noteworthy or of tremendous historical significance, are not great works.
Is Apollo 13 a great work on the level of Apollo 11? I don't think so. On the other hand, it might be more important than Looney Tunes. I think there's a place for Apollo 13, and D-Day, and there's also a place for a great painting, or Woodstock. I understand your point, and I see that what I wrote yesterday might have caused this because it wasn't taken the way I meant it. All I was trying to say was that I appreciated using the Wildcard to take human achievements that might not fit into the other categories. I probably shouldn't have written "rather than", because in the end, the ranking is going to depend on the selection. If someone wants to place the Mona Lisa as a Wildcard, it's going to be ranked higher than the Apollo 13 rescue; that's just the way it is. On the other hand, if you select a painting that is not particularly noteworthy but it's just something you love and put it in the Wildcard, then I might decide that D-Day is a more important accomplishment.And frankly I disagree with you about D-Day. It's not quite the same as Pickett's Charge, because it was an incredible logistical undertaking. If it was just a battle, I would discount it as a "work". But I think the logistical difficulties make it much more than a battle and an actual achievement that can be measured to a certain degree. There are other battles in history (not many) that fall into this same idea. Pickett's charge, incredibly brave as it was, would not be one of these.
This discusion went nowhere because it took place on Saturday. Is Bobby Layne right? Should the Wild Cards strictly be human creations? I'm not married to my picks ... I'll be happy to throw something back that was clearly out-of-bounds. But I'd like to know now so I can make the picks up.It's a shame BL is on travel ... he was unable to comment on the Apollo 13 pick more immediately. Left me thinking that was an unquestioned selection.

 
timschochet said:
BobbyLayne said:
That's just one example. Personally I see nothing wrong with taking a painting or rap song, a great work that isn't iconic but was groundbreaking or influential. But what I don't want to see is The Long March or the Repulse of Pickett's Charge or the extraction from the Hotel Rwanda. None of those things are a great work. Apollo 13 and D-Day, while noteworthy or of tremendous historical significance, are not great works.
Is Apollo 13 a great work on the level of Apollo 11? I don't think so. On the other hand, it might be more important than Looney Tunes. I think there's a place for Apollo 13, and D-Day, and there's also a place for a great painting, or Woodstock. I understand your point, and I see that what I wrote yesterday might have caused this because it wasn't taken the way I meant it. All I was trying to say was that I appreciated using the Wildcard to take human achievements that might not fit into the other categories. I probably shouldn't have written "rather than", because in the end, the ranking is going to depend on the selection. If someone wants to place the Mona Lisa as a Wildcard, it's going to be ranked higher than the Apollo 13 rescue; that's just the way it is. On the other hand, if you select a painting that is not particularly noteworthy but it's just something you love and put it in the Wildcard, then I might decide that D-Day is a more important accomplishment.And frankly I disagree with you about D-Day. It's not quite the same as Pickett's Charge, because it was an incredible logistical undertaking. If it was just a battle, I would discount it as a "work". But I think the logistical difficulties make it much more than a battle and an actual achievement that can be measured to a certain degree. There are other battles in history (not many) that fall into this same idea. Pickett's charge, incredibly brave as it was, would not be one of these.
This discusion went nowhere because it took place on Saturday. Is Bobby Layne right? Should the Wild Cards strictly be human creations? I'm not married to my picks ... I'll be happy to throw something back that was clearly out-of-bounds. But I'd like to know now so I can make the picks up.It's a shame BL is on travel ... he was unable to comment on the Apollo 13 pick more immediately. Left me thinking that was an unquestioned selection.
I agree with BL and would have preferred to limit to human creations rather than actions in the wildcard category. As to whether we should go back and have repicks now, though, :ptts: .
 
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I think I'm up.

39.17-Lili Marlene-Song

In honor of D-Day, here's a song that while written by a German, was extremely popular on both sides of the lines.

Lili Marlene was written as a poem by a German soldier during WWI and the lyrics were later published as a poem. Music was added in 1938 and it was first rcorded in 1939. The song immediately became a hit with German soldiers in the Mediterranean and the Afrika Korps, so popular in fact that Goebbels originally wanted it banned as bad for German morale. But Erwin Rommel liked it and Goebbels eventually relented. The British 8th Army would hear the song on German broadcasts and the Tommies also liked the song and it became popular amongst them, albeit with English lyrics. Once the war moved to Europe after D-Day, American troops used to sing of the girl waiting under the lamppost outside the barracks and they'd think of the loved one back in the US waiting for their safe return.

Marlene Dietrich, Perry Como, Hank Snow and others all had popular versions of the song, with Dietrich singing it in both German and English. This is a song of World War II and immediately recognizable to those who are interested in the war. Here's a link to Dietrich singing Lili Marlene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8O8Lgjkiw...feature=related

Lyrics:

Underneath the lantern,

By the barrack gate

Darling I remember

The way you used to wait

T'was there that you whispered tenderly,

That you loved me,

You'd always be,

My Lilli of the Lamplight,

My own Lilli Marlene

Time would come for roll call,

Time for us to part,

Darling I'd caress you

And press you to my heart,

And there 'neath that far-off lantern light,

I'd hold you tight,

We'd kiss good night,

My Lilli of the Lamplight,

My own Lilli Marlene

Orders came for sailing,

Somewhere over there

All confined to barracks

was more than I could bear

I knew you were waiting in the street

I heard your feet,

But could not meet,

My Lilly of the Lamplight,

my own Lilly Marlene

Resting in our billets,

Just behind the lines

Even tho' we're parted,

Your lips are close to mine

You wait where that lantern softly gleams,

Your sweet face seems

To haunt my dreams

My Lilly of the Lamplight,

My own Lilly Marlene

 
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I agree with BL and would have preferred to human creations rather than actions in the wildcard category. As to whether we should go back and have repicks now, though, :ptts: .
I'd like the option to re-pick if my selections were poor fits.
 
Uncle Humuna said:
39.13 The Hubble Space Telescope (Wildcard)

The combination and culmination of numerous landmark inventions, breakthroughs, accomplishments and scientific discoveries.

Named after the trailblazing astronomer Edwin P. Hubble (1889-1953), the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) is a large, space-based observatory which has revolutionized astronomy by providing unprecedented deep and clear views of the Universe, ranging from our own solar system to extremely remote fledgling galaxies forming not long after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

Launched in 1990 and greatly extended in its scientific powers through new instrumentation installed during four servicing missions with the Space Shuttle, the Hubble, in its eighteen years of operations, has validated Lyman Spitzer Jr.'s (1914-1997) original concept of a diversely instrumented observatory orbiting far above the distorting effects of the Earth's atmosphere and returning data of unique scientific value.
I think we need some clarification on this pick. Is this still valid after my selection of the telescope as an invention?
 
I agree with BL and would have preferred to human creations rather than actions in the wildcard category. As to whether we should go back and have repicks now, though, :boxing: .
I'd like the option to re-pick if my selections were poor fits.
I don't think your selections were poor fits and I am strongly against repicking now. When Apollo 11 was selected in round 1, that settled this question at least for me. I also plan on selecting human achievements that might fall into the same category as your picks. Doug, while you were gone Rodg replaced you as the third judge. So Krista and Rodg may choose to overrule me, but it is my firm opinion that your picks are fine and we should keep them.
 
Uncle Humuna said:
39.13 The Hubble Space Telescope (Wildcard)

The combination and culmination of numerous landmark inventions, breakthroughs, accomplishments and scientific discoveries.

Named after the trailblazing astronomer Edwin P. Hubble (1889-1953), the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) is a large, space-based observatory which has revolutionized astronomy by providing unprecedented deep and clear views of the Universe, ranging from our own solar system to extremely remote fledgling galaxies forming not long after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

Launched in 1990 and greatly extended in its scientific powers through new instrumentation installed during four servicing missions with the Space Shuttle, the Hubble, in its eighteen years of operations, has validated Lyman Spitzer Jr.'s (1914-1997) original concept of a diversely instrumented observatory orbiting far above the distorting effects of the Earth's atmosphere and returning data of unique scientific value.
I think we need some clarification on this pick. Is this still valid after my selection of the telescope as an invention?
abso-freaking-lutely.
 
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38.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

39.06 - Abrantes (autoskip)

39.10 - Thatguy

39.11 - El Floppo

39.18 - Genedoc/Bonzai - OTC until :43

39.19 - Tirnan (autoskip if not around)

39.20 - Yankee23Fan (autoskip)

40.01 - Yankee23Fan (autoskip)

40.02 - Tirnan (autoskip if not around)

40.03 - Genedoc - On Deck

40.04 - DC Thunder - In the Hole

40.05 - Scott Norwood/Anborn

40.06 - Bob Lee Swagger (autoskip after 15 min OTC if not around)

40.07 - MisfitBlondes

40.08 - Uncle Humuna

40.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)

40.10 - El Floppo (autoskip if not here in first 15)

40.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

40.12 - Big Rocks

40.13 - Tides of War

40.14 - BobbyLayne (autoskip)

40.15 - Abrantes (autoskip)

40.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

40.17 - Timscochet

40.18 - Postradamus

40.19 - Rodg

40.20 - Krista

 
Uncle Humuna said:
39.13 The Hubble Space Telescope (Wildcard)

The combination and culmination of numerous landmark inventions, breakthroughs, accomplishments and scientific discoveries.

Named after the trailblazing astronomer Edwin P. Hubble (1889-1953), the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) is a large, space-based observatory which has revolutionized astronomy by providing unprecedented deep and clear views of the Universe, ranging from our own solar system to extremely remote fledgling galaxies forming not long after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

Launched in 1990 and greatly extended in its scientific powers through new instrumentation installed during four servicing missions with the Space Shuttle, the Hubble, in its eighteen years of operations, has validated Lyman Spitzer Jr.'s (1914-1997) original concept of a diversely instrumented observatory orbiting far above the distorting effects of the Earth's atmosphere and returning data of unique scientific value.
I think we need some clarification on this pick. Is this still valid after my selection of the telescope as an invention?
abso-freaking-lutely.
IMO, yes.
 
Uncle Humuna said:
39.13 The Hubble Space Telescope (Wildcard)

The combination and culmination of numerous landmark inventions, breakthroughs, accomplishments and scientific discoveries.

Named after the trailblazing astronomer Edwin P. Hubble (1889-1953), the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) is a large, space-based observatory which has revolutionized astronomy by providing unprecedented deep and clear views of the Universe, ranging from our own solar system to extremely remote fledgling galaxies forming not long after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

Launched in 1990 and greatly extended in its scientific powers through new instrumentation installed during four servicing missions with the Space Shuttle, the Hubble, in its eighteen years of operations, has validated Lyman Spitzer Jr.'s (1914-1997) original concept of a diversely instrumented observatory orbiting far above the distorting effects of the Earth's atmosphere and returning data of unique scientific value.
I think we need some clarification on this pick. Is this still valid after my selection of the telescope as an invention?
abso-freaking-lutely.
IMO, yes.
Opens up a huge can of worms, IMO. Allows drafters to select specific cars, planes, computers, etc.ETA: Does it work just because it was drafted as a WC?

 
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timschochet said:
BobbyLayne said:
That's just one example. Personally I see nothing wrong with taking a painting or rap song, a great work that isn't iconic but was groundbreaking or influential. But what I don't want to see is The Long March or the Repulse of Pickett's Charge or the extraction from the Hotel Rwanda. None of those things are a great work. Apollo 13 and D-Day, while noteworthy or of tremendous historical significance, are not great works.
Is Apollo 13 a great work on the level of Apollo 11? I don't think so. On the other hand, it might be more important than Looney Tunes. I think there's a place for Apollo 13, and D-Day, and there's also a place for a great painting, or Woodstock. I understand your point, and I see that what I wrote yesterday might have caused this because it wasn't taken the way I meant it. All I was trying to say was that I appreciated using the Wildcard to take human achievements that might not fit into the other categories. I probably shouldn't have written "rather than", because in the end, the ranking is going to depend on the selection. If someone wants to place the Mona Lisa as a Wildcard, it's going to be ranked higher than the Apollo 13 rescue; that's just the way it is. On the other hand, if you select a painting that is not particularly noteworthy but it's just something you love and put it in the Wildcard, then I might decide that D-Day is a more important accomplishment.And frankly I disagree with you about D-Day. It's not quite the same as Pickett's Charge, because it was an incredible logistical undertaking. If it was just a battle, I would discount it as a "work". But I think the logistical difficulties make it much more than a battle and an actual achievement that can be measured to a certain degree. There are other battles in history (not many) that fall into this same idea. Pickett's charge, incredibly brave as it was, would not be one of these.
This discusion went nowhere because it took place on Saturday. Is Bobby Layne right? Should the Wild Cards strictly be human creations? I'm not married to my picks ... I'll be happy to throw something back that was clearly out-of-bounds. But I'd like to know now so I can make the picks up.It's a shame BL is on travel ... he was unable to comment on the Apollo 13 pick more immediately. Left me thinking that was an unquestioned selection.
I agree with BL and would have preferred to limit to human creations rather than actions in the wildcard category. As to whether we should go back and have repicks now, though, :thumbup: .
I disagree with BL and Krista.I don't see how we can seperate human "actions" from "great works".... what's the criteria there- that the "work" has to be a "thing"? The WCs chosen so far- Apollo 11, 13, D-Day... those were great works, IMO- albeit achieved by many and without identifiable "things" left behind. They were planned and orchestrated towards a singular achievable larger goal (obviously multiple goals within all of those). That goal has to be seen as a great work.

 
39.18 Free Markets (Philosophic/Political Idea)

Glad to take this here. Staying in the draft on my own, I was debating taking the Tao Te Ching or The Wealth of Nations with my first pick. Glad to get the philosophical backbone to one of those great works and one of the most important philosophical ideas in human history in the 39th round.

 
Opens up a huge can of worms, IMO. Allows drafters to select specific cars, planes, computers, etc.ETA: Does it work just because it was drafted as a WC?
My answer to your questions is yes. And I don't think it opens up a can of worms at all. If you want to select a certain kind of computer, be my guest. I don't see anything wrong with that. Where it will rank overall is a different question.
 
re: disputed picks

I'll just go with the flow; if the majority thinks a rescue operation and a military invasion are good for the Wild Card cat, no worries. I'm going to keep drafting according to the original intent of the draft. It really doesn't matter if wrestlemania or soap or broad topics with thousands of years of history (optics) are allowed. It is what it is, this is so far removed from what it started out as it doesn't matter at this point.

I'm just enjoying the process, learning much, and having fun researching paintings.

Will be unavailable most of the week, will make picks when I am able to.

 
Opens up a huge can of worms, IMO. Allows drafters to select specific cars, planes, computers, etc.ETA: Does it work just because it was drafted as a WC?
My answer to your questions is yes. And I don't think it opens up a can of worms at all. If you want to select a certain kind of computer, be my guest. I don't see anything wrong with that. Where it will rank overall is a different question.
:bs:Ok. I don't agree with this, but fair enough. Should be stated that more specific things can't be drafted as inventions, yes?
 
39.18 Free Markets (Philosophic/Political Idea)

Glad to take this here. Staying in the draft on my own, I was debating taking the Tao Te Ching or The Wealth of Nations with my first pick. Glad to get the philosophical backbone to one of those great works and one of the most important philosophical ideas in human history in the 39th round.
You're up again, GB.
 
re: disputed picks

I'll just go with the flow; if the majority thinks a rescue operation and a military invasion are good for the Wild Card cat, no worries. I'm going to keep drafting according to the original intent of the draft. It really doesn't matter if wrestlemania or soap or broad topics with thousands of years of history (optics) are allowed. It is what it is, this is so far removed from what it started out as it doesn't matter at this point.

I'm just enjoying the process, learning much, and having fun researching paintings.

Will be unavailable most of the week, will make picks when I am able to.
BL, GB, do you remember that the original incarnation of this draft included categories for Acts and Stratagems? This would have been one of the reasons I would have ruled to keep the picks if so asked. Once those categories were eliminated, my natural reaction (as well as others here it appears) was to move things from those categories to WC picks.
 

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