Official Great Works Draft (6 Viewers)

[El Floppo]

You folks feel like we could have had like 200 plays - 20 greek tragedies, 40 histories, 60 dramas, 40 comedies, 40 romances.Come on, let's go 100 rounds - 2000 picks. Add opera and foreign film cats.Who's with me?

If 19 more rounds take apathy, what does 56 more rounds take?

Draft angry.And if you think their aren't angry musicals out there, look out.

Drafting angry got me nowhere.

 

[TidesofWar]

Drunk tonight? (And if so, can I join you?)

You know me too well, and the answer to that question as well - But We Will Always Have Paris

Yep, black-and-white + subtitles = boring. You really got me there.

I'm going to watch the Stanley Cup finals and hope that the stupid Dead Wings at least have to wait a few more days to win.

OH is playing poker tonight.

Ah, the gentle spring raindrops pattering on the window, as we threw flirtatious glances off each other and The Seine, sharing raspeberry beignets and berets, as we toasted life and love through clear crystal wine glasses and clouded judgement...........................My 41.08, that was destroyed in the Summer Hannukah of 2009....................................

Through a Glass, Darkly, - Movie - Ingmar Bergman

 

[Fennis]

With apologies in advance...just gonna cut and paste, will clean it up later when I update my 42.14 pick (Mother Courage and Her Children). Sorry, got stuff going on here...

43.07 (847th pick) - South Pacific - Play

R&H Musical

When you take a musical, you take a musical. Might as well have taken <spotlighting>! Someone shoot me.

Pretty sure somebody already shot you with a gay-gun.

I watched about 1/2 of the Tony's.

[brother theodore] If you were a man, you'd knock my teeth out. If you were half a man, you'd knock half my teeth out [/brother Theodore]

 

[krista4]

tim, could we get an ***official*** ruling on the request for a draft extension?

 

[Fennis]

I just ate half a package of Fudge Stripes.

invention Keebler Elf. Do those little dudes have names?

 

[krista4]

Drunk tonight? (And if so, can I join you?)

You know me too well, and the answer to that question as well - But We Will Always Have Paris

Yep, black-and-white + subtitles = boring. You really got me there.

I'm going to watch the Stanley Cup finals and hope that the stupid Dead Wings at least have to wait a few more days to win.

OH is playing poker tonight.

Ah, the gentle spring raindrops pattering on the window, as we threw flirtatious glances off each other and The Seine, sharing raspeberry beignets and berets, as we toasted life and love through clear crystal wine glasses and clouded judgement...........................My 41.08, that was destroyed in the Summer Hannukah of 2009....................................

Through a Glass, Darkly, - Movie - Ingmar Bergman

I haven't seen this one.

Will watch.

 

[BobbyLayne]

timschochet and MisterCIA/rodg12 -

Please move Madama Butterfly (opera) from Play to Wild Card.

tim - I know you aren't thrill to have to judge Puccini in either category, but I just can't stop taking plays yet.

ALSO - please list Offenbach's composition by the english title Orpheus in the Underworld (instead of Orphee aux Enfers)

TIA

 

[BobbyLayne]

You folks feel like we could have had like 200 plays - 20 greek tragedies, 40 histories, 60 dramas, 40 comedies, 40 romances.Come on, let's go 100 rounds - 2000 picks. Add opera and foreign film cats.Who's with me?

If 19 more rounds take apathy, what does 56 more rounds take?

Draft angry.And if you think their aren't angry musicals out there, look out.

Drafting angry got me nowhere.

Light on material tonight.Even my Tides-is-an-alkie routine fell flat.This would be fun to extend, though. Just so much stuff that is worthy that is in danger of being ignored.

 

[BobbyLayne]

You folks feel like we could have had like 200 plays - 20 greek tragedies, 40 histories, 60 dramas, 40 comedies, 40 romances.Come on, let's go 100 rounds - 2000 picks. Add opera and foreign film cats.Who's with me?

INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! More poetry, too!

I would love to do 5 in each category... well almost each, maybe not docs, political documents, political ideas

I harken back to my suggestion a few pages back that we have a supplemental draft after this one.

I missed that. Then again, I missed a lot in this draft...was listening to Astral Weeks this morning with my baby daughter and finally realized somebody drafted it 22 rounds ago. But this supplemental thingy might work. Would this be optional? Just thinking some might decide 60 is more than enough, no thanks, but if we could get 10 or 14 or 18 to hang in there, that would be awesome.I saw Wikkid posted in another thread the other day. Maybe his alias could rejoin us.

 

[thatguy]

I just ate half a package of Fudge Stripes.

Flysack would be proud.

 

[thatguy]

If we extend this thing, I'm down and all, but I'll definitely need a partner.

Hell, I already need a damn partner. Any takers? Negotiations with Flysack are taking longer than expected. Whispering sweet nothings into his ear is getting me nowhere.

 

[rodg12]

timschochet and MisterCIA/rodg12 -

Please move Madama Butterfly (opera) from Play to Wild Card.

tim - I know you aren't thrill to have to judge Puccini in either category, but I just can't stop taking plays yet.

ALSO - please list Offenbach's composition by the english title Orpheus in the Underworld (instead of Orphee aux Enfers)

TIA

Done.But geez, how about leaving some of these for us drafters that only have two so far.

 

[timschochet]

tim, could we get an ***official*** ruling on the request for a draft extension?

It's not my decision. As to whether I'm going to be involved, I haven't made up my mind yet. I recommend that we finish the given draft, do the judging, and then decide if we want to continue with a supplemental draft.

 

[krista4]

tim, could we get an ***official*** ruling on the request for a draft extension?

It's not my decision. As to whether I'm going to be involved, I haven't made up my mind yet. I recommend that we finish the given draft, do the judging, and then decide if we want to continue with a supplemental draft.

Meh, would rather decide now because some of us would perhaps make different selections if we knew we were going to go additional rounds.So I ask, who is in for a supplemental draft? Rounds and categories TBD, along with commish (if tim won't do it), and suggestions more than welcome.1/2 of Team Fennis is in.

 

[timschochet]

tim, could we get an ***official*** ruling on the request for a draft extension?

It's not my decision. As to whether I'm going to be involved, I haven't made up my mind yet. I recommend that we finish the given draft, do the judging, and then decide if we want to continue with a supplemental draft.

Meh, would rather decide now because some of us would perhaps make different selections if we knew we were going to go additional rounds.So I ask, who is in for a supplemental draft? Rounds and categories TBD, along with commish (if tim won't do it), and suggestions more than welcome.1/2 of Team Fennis is in.

That's fine Krista. I know I don't want to commish, but I'll think about being part of it and decide later.

 

[Mister CIA]

I read this about fifteen years ago and was at once fascinated and bored out of my mind. This is one of those works that probably has to be read twice to (more) fully understand the author's point because it's shrouded within prose that painfully details a cross-country motorcycle ride across the northern plains of the U.S. I'm quite sure there's irony involved where I felt the book was tedious.

If I recall correctly, he made a point that a long time ago, truth prevailed over quality. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I defer to previous statement about the boring-### motorcycle ride as my excuse. Still, if I am wrong that's okay because I've gotten a lot of mileage over ruminating on quality vs truth.

42.09 - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsg, Non-fiction

 

[rodg12]

tim, could we get an ***official*** ruling on the request for a draft extension?

It's not my decision. As to whether I'm going to be involved, I haven't made up my mind yet. I recommend that we finish the given draft, do the judging, and then decide if we want to continue with a supplemental draft.

Meh, would rather decide now because some of us would perhaps make different selections if we knew we were going to go additional rounds.So I ask, who is in for a supplemental draft? Rounds and categories TBD, along with commish (if tim won't do it), and suggestions more than welcome.1/2 of Team Fennis is in.

I'm most likely in.

 

[krista4]

tim, could we get an ***official*** ruling on the request for a draft extension?

It's not my decision. As to whether I'm going to be involved, I haven't made up my mind yet. I recommend that we finish the given draft, do the judging, and then decide if we want to continue with a supplemental draft.

Meh, would rather decide now because some of us would perhaps make different selections if we knew we were going to go additional rounds.So I ask, who is in for a supplemental draft? Rounds and categories TBD, along with commish (if tim won't do it), and suggestions more than welcome.1/2 of Team Fennis is in.

I'm most likely in.

2/3 of rodg in!

 

[krista4]

I read this about fifteen years ago and was at once fascinated and bored out of my mind. This is one of those works that probably has to be read twice to (more) fully understand the author's point because it's shrouded within prose that painfully details a cross-country motorcycle ride across the northern plains of the U.S. I'm quite sure there's irony involved where I felt the book was tedious.

If I recall correctly, he made a point that a long time ago, truth prevailed over quality. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I defer to previous statement about the boring-### motorcycle ride as my excuse. Still, if I am wrong that's okay because I've gotten a lot of mileage over ruminating on quality vs truth.

42.09 - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsg, Non-fiction

I've never read this, but Mr. krista4 has a tattoo that has some connection to this. He got it when he was 16. He's none too happy about that now.

 

[krista4]

PENS!!!!!!!

 

[BobbyLayne]

I read this about fifteen years ago and was at once fascinated and bored out of my mind. This is one of those works that probably has to be read twice to (more) fully understand the author's point because it's shrouded within prose that painfully details a cross-country motorcycle ride across the northern plains of the U.S. I'm quite sure there's irony involved where I felt the book was tedious.

If I recall correctly, he made a point that a long time ago, truth prevailed over quality. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I defer to previous statement about the boring-### motorcycle ride as my excuse. Still, if I am wrong that's okay because I've gotten a lot of mileage over ruminating on quality vs truth.

42.09 - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsg, Non-fiction

GD it. I effing knew it, too -- looked at this on my list today, and literally said 'well, there's really only one drafter I am seriously worried he'll snipe it'.Richard.

Great pick. Also, you suck. FML

 

[BobbyLayne]

Seriously, anyone who hasn't read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, grab a soft cover copy off Amazon.

Fantastic pick, Mister. I don't care what the lit snobs or anyone else has to say, that is one awesome work.

 

[krista4]

Seriously, anyone who hasn't read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, grab a soft cover copy off Amazon.

Fantastic pick, Mister. I don't care what the lit snobs or anyone else has to say, that is one awesome work.

Oh yeah, just to be clear, Mr. krista4 doesn't have a problem with it. I know it's a meaningful book for a lot of people (he has a squillion people ask him about the tattoo); he just doesn't want a tattoo of it. I should read it sometime.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I hear ya. I was drunk for about 5 3/4 of the 6 years I was in the Navy, dang lucky I never got one.

No offense to anyone who has a tat, but that is often (generally speaking) a youthful indiscretion later regretted.

 

[BobbyLayne]

PENS!!!!!!!

2-1, reeling, and now a power play.Big moment here.

 

[krista4]

I hear ya. I was drunk for about 5 3/4 of the 6 years I was in the Navy, dang lucky I never got one.No offense to anyone who has a tat, but that is often (generally speaking) a youthful indiscretion later regretted.

He also has one that somehow relates to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Those are his two; I also have one I wish I didn't have. And I can't blame youthful indiscretion. :(

 

[BobbyLayne]

Killed it off

:(

High sticking - another chance!

 

[Chiwawa]

I hear ya. I was drunk for about 5 3/4 of the 6 years I was in the Navy, dang lucky I never got one.No offense to anyone who has a tat, but that is often (generally speaking) a youthful indiscretion later regretted.

He also has one that somehow relates to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Those are his two; I also have one I wish I didn't have. And I can't blame youthful indiscretion. :(

DON'T PANIC?

 

[rodg12]

I hear ya. I was drunk for about 5 3/4 of the 6 years I was in the Navy, dang lucky I never got one.No offense to anyone who has a tat, but that is often (generally speaking) a youthful indiscretion later regretted.

He also has one that somehow relates to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Those are his two; I also have one I wish I didn't have. And I can't blame youthful indiscretion. :(

DON'T PANIC?

You're up. Just in case you didn't know.

 

[krista4]

Killed it off :(High sticking - another chance!

I don't feel good about this. :(

 

[Mister CIA]

Still have not decided which one of my dynasty rosters to choose first as a great work, so in the meantime ...

I'm going with something I have not read (again!) with hopes it will actually inspire me to read it. I hear good things about this one.

43.12 - As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner, Novel

Wiki says

As I Lay Dying is a novel written by the American author William Faulkner. The novel was written in six weeks while Faulkner was working at a power plant, published in 1930, and described by Faulkner as a "tour de force". It is Faulkner's fifth novel and consistently ranked among the best novels of 20th century literature. The title derives from Book XI of Homer's The Odyssey, wherein Agamemnon speaks to Odysseus: "As I lay dying, the woman with the dog's eyes would not close my eyes as I descended into Hades."

The novel is known for its stream of consciousness writing technique, multiple narrators, and varying chapter lengths; the shortest chapter in the book consists of just five words.

Also, I got a peek at the opening paragraph of the book. There's a rhythm to the words that speaks loudly to me.

Jewel and I come up from the field, following the path in single file. Although I am fifteen feet ahead of him, anyone watching us from the cottonhouse can see Jewel's frayed and broken straw hat a full head above my own.

Team CIA NovelsWar and Peace by Leo Tolstoy

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

Nostromo by Joseph Conrad

The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoevsky (presently reading)

As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner

 

[krista4]

Still have not decided which one of my dynasty rosters to choose first as a great work, so in the meantime ...

I'm going with something I have not read (again!) with hopes it will actually inspire me to read it. I hear good things about this one.

43.12 - As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner, Novel

Wiki says

As I Lay Dying is a novel written by the American author William Faulkner. The novel was written in six weeks while Faulkner was working at a power plant, published in 1930, and described by Faulkner as a "tour de force". It is Faulkner's fifth novel and consistently ranked among the best novels of 20th century literature. The title derives from Book XI of Homer's The Odyssey, wherein Agamemnon speaks to Odysseus: "As I lay dying, the woman with the dog's eyes would not close my eyes as I descended into Hades."

The novel is known for its stream of consciousness writing technique, multiple narrators, and varying chapter lengths; the shortest chapter in the book consists of just five words.

Also, I got a peek at the opening paragraph of the book. There's a rhythm to the words that speaks loudly to me.

Jewel and I come up from the field, following the path in single file. Although I am fifteen feet ahead of him, anyone watching us from the cottonhouse can see Jewel's frayed and broken straw hat a full head above my own.

Team CIA NovelsWar and Peace by Leo Tolstoy

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

Nostromo by Joseph Conrad

The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoevsky (presently reading)

As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner

Wow, that's a helluva a lineup of novels.

 

[krista4]

It would be nice if the commentator would stop calling the Wings' goaltender "Crosby".

 

[Mister CIA]

I hear ya. I was drunk for about 5 3/4 of the 6 years I was in the Navy, dang lucky I never got one.No offense to anyone who has a tat, but that is often (generally speaking) a youthful indiscretion later regretted.

Same here, six years and one month. My working book title is 20,000 Beers and Beneath the Sea - If I wasn't poking holes in the ocean, I was pouring beer. Never once had the urge to get a tattoo.

 

[Big Rocks]

 

[krista4]

 

[BobbyLayne]

I hear ya. I was drunk for about 5 3/4 of the 6 years I was in the Navy, dang lucky I never got one.No offense to anyone who has a tat, but that is often (generally speaking) a youthful indiscretion later regretted.

Same here, six years and one month. My working book title is 20,000 Beers and Beneath the Sea - If I wasn't poking holes in the ocean, I was pouring beer. Never once had the urge to get a tattoo.

Bubble head? Tin cans here.

 

[timschochet]

I hate to do this, knowing the crap I'm going to get, but...

Misfit Blondes, the Industrial Revolution is not a philosophical or political idea. You cannot select it in this category. As a matter of fact, I don't think this is eligible for ANY category. I rule it's out. Pick again, please.

 

[timschochet]

I hate to do this, knowing the crap I'm going to get, but...

Misfit Blondes, the Industrial Revolution is not a philosophical or political idea. You cannot select it in this category. As a matter of fact, I don't think this is eligible for ANY category. I rule it's out. Pick again, please.

Read this and get back to me...especially the part about the Industrial Revolution.

I read it. Here's the line that refers to the Industrial Revolution:The industrial revolution produced a parallel revolution in political thought.

They're referring to communism, socialism,and other political ideas of the time (that's why there's a photo of Karl Marx there.) You're welcome to take one of those ideas certainly. But the industrial revolution is not an idea in itself. Sorry, overruled. You may appeal.

 

[Bonzai]

I read this about fifteen years ago and was at once fascinated and bored out of my mind. This is one of those works that probably has to be read twice to (more) fully understand the author's point because it's shrouded within prose that painfully details a cross-country motorcycle ride across the northern plains of the U.S. I'm quite sure there's irony involved where I felt the book was tedious.

If I recall correctly, he made a point that a long time ago, truth prevailed over quality. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I defer to previous statement about the boring-### motorcycle ride as my excuse. Still, if I am wrong that's okay because I've gotten a lot of mileage over ruminating on quality vs truth.

42.09 - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsg, Non-fiction

One of my favorite books, ...but Non-fiction?ETA: Also, I can't say I agree with the bolded.

 

[Fennis]

I hate to do this, knowing the crap I'm going to get, but...

Misfit Blondes, the Industrial Revolution is not a philosophical or political idea. You cannot select it in this category. As a matter of fact, I don't think this is eligible for ANY category. I rule it's out. Pick again, please.

Read this and get back to me...especially the part about the Industrial Revolution.

oh no you din't!

 

[BobbyLayne]

I read this about fifteen years ago and was at once fascinated and bored out of my mind. This is one of those works that probably has to be read twice to (more) fully understand the author's point because it's shrouded within prose that painfully details a cross-country motorcycle ride across the northern plains of the U.S. I'm quite sure there's irony involved where I felt the book was tedious.

If I recall correctly, he made a point that a long time ago, truth prevailed over quality. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I defer to previous statement about the boring-### motorcycle ride as my excuse. Still, if I am wrong that's okay because I've gotten a lot of mileage over ruminating on quality vs truth.

42.09 - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsg, Non-fiction

One of my favorite books, ...but Non-fiction?

Totally missed that, I was so bummed I got sniped.

Throw it back, Mistah!



The accidental wild card?

 

[timschochet]

I've never read the book, but I did read the Wiki description. Never once is it described as a novel. I'm going to say Ok as non fiction.

 

[rodg12]

I've never read the book, but I did read the Wiki description. Never once is it described as a novel. I'm going to say Ok as non fiction.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, might want to re-check that. Read "Genre(s)" in table to the right.

 

[timschochet]

OK, after much thought, here is my idea for judging. I think this would be both fun, and fair:

1. We have the category judges evaluate, and this will set a playoff order, as we've done before.

2. We'll have a daily playoff as we've done before, EXCEPT: voting will be by post here, and it will be invite only- invites being restricted to those who are either directly involved in the draft, or people who tell us they want to be involved beforehand, and are vouched for by at least three drafters. Everyone else who attempts to vote will be ignored. And again, you have to post in the thread to make your vote.

What do you guys think?

 

[BobbyLayne]

I've never read the book, but I did read the Wiki description. Never once is it described as a novel. I'm going to say Ok as non fiction.

In the standard Wiki entry for any publication, there is a summary box on the right hand side.

Genre(s) Philosophical novel

ETA: - the structure is a bit baffling, to be honest...it is very much like Walden...not really a novel, not really an autobiography.

 

[timschochet]

I've never read the book, but I did read the Wiki description. Never once is it described as a novel. I'm going to say Ok as non fiction.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, might want to re-check that. Read "Genre(s)" in table to the right.

Oops. You're right, I didn't see that. OK, this is ruled out as a nonfiction. You may take it as fiction or a wildcard, or repick.

 

[Bonzai]

I've never read the book, but I did read the Wiki description. Never once is it described as a novel. I'm going to say Ok as non fiction.

Wiki describes it as a "philosophical novel".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_novel

I don't really care, though. Just thought it was weird. I'd much rather bull#### about the contents of the book than what category it belongs in.

 

[Chiwawa]

I hate to do this, knowing the crap I'm going to get, but...Misfit Blondes, the Industrial Revolution is not a philosophical or political idea. You cannot select it in this category. As a matter of fact, I don't think this is eligible for ANY category. I rule it's out. Pick again, please.

The industrial revolution came about when new agricultural techniques were developed and British Parliament passed the Enclosure laws to take lands away from tenant farmers and turned the lands into large private farms worked by a much smaller force. This really increased the agricultural production. This sent all of the then unemployed to the cities and they became factory workers. And any rise in the availability of food causes population spikes which was perfect for this new way of life. Definitely a purely political idea constructed by Parliament.

 

[BobbyLayne]

OK, after much thought, here is my idea for judging. I think this would be both fun, and fair:1. We have the category judges evaluate, and this will set a playoff order, as we've done before.2. We'll have a daily playoff as we've done before, EXCEPT: voting will be by post here, and it will be invite only- invites being restricted to those who are either directly involved in the draft, or people who tell us they want to be involved beforehand, and are vouched for by at least three drafters. Everyone else who attempts to vote will be ignored. And again, you have to post in the thread to make your vote. What do you guys think?

If I'm not around, any suggestions which hint of either apathy or anarchy, gets my vote.Personally I would prefer no playoff matchups.