Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)

[rodg12]

Novels Rankings:

Thatguy - 83

Genedoc/Bonzai - 79

MisfitBlondes - 75

Uncle Humuna - 66

Timschochet - 64

BobbyLayne - 64

Team CIA - 62

Bob Lee Swagger - 59

Doug B - 55

El Floppo - 52

Fennis/Krista - 51

Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 51

Abrantes - 50

Postradamus - 49

Rodg - 45

DC Thunder - 43

Scott Norwood/Anborn - 42

Yankee23Fan - 37

Tides of War - 36

Tirnan - 31

 

[ScottNorwood]

Novels Rankings:

Thatguy - 83

Genedoc/Bonzai - 79

MisfitBlondes - 75

Uncle Humuna - 66

Timschochet - 64

BobbyLayne - 64

Team CIA - 62

Bob Lee Swagger - 59

Doug B - 55

El Floppo - 52

Fennis/Krista - 51

Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 51

Abrantes - 50

Postradamus - 49

Rodg - 45

DC Thunder - 43

Scott Norwood/Anborn - 42

Yankee23Fan - 37

Tides of War - 36

Tirnan - 31

Anborn's picks sucked. Mine were rated highly.

 

[Postradamus]

Team Guapo’s Picks:

The Catcher in the Rye – J.D. Salinger 16 points

Emma – Jane Austen 18 points

The Count of Monte Cristo – Alexandre Dumas 7 points

The Tale of Genji - Murasaki Shikibu 5 points

Blood Meridian – Cormac McCarthy 3 points

anyone else???

My grades would be...18 for Genji - 5 above makes little sense to me.

17 for Emma - basically the same as above

10 for Catcher - 16 above is way too high.

7 for Count - same as above

5 Blood - similar to above

I guess my expectations were off... I figured Catcher would easily score highest

 

[Fennis]

Standings:

Cats: Pol Doc, Doc, Plays, Phil/Pol Ideas, WC, TV, N-f Books, Comps, Movies, Novels

Did anyone ever rank MfB's compositions?

 

[ScottNorwood]

Novel Rankings look good. Should score well in my rankings rankings.

 

[Oliver Humanzee]

Team Guapo’s Picks:

The Catcher in the Rye – J.D. Salinger 16 points

Emma – Jane Austen 18 points

The Count of Monte Cristo – Alexandre Dumas 7 points

The Tale of Genji - Murasaki Shikibu 5 points

Blood Meridian – Cormac McCarthy 3 points

anyone else???

Blood Meridian is one of maybe 4 novels published in the last 2 decades that Harold Bloom includes in the Cannon of Western Literature. It is certainly better than anything Stephen King ever wrote. It is an awesome work, and by awesome I mean that it inspires actual awe. Give it 25 points.But other than that, and the previously noted Heart of Darkness/To Kill A Mockingbird thing, I think it is a fine list.

And kudos to those brave and visionary souls who chose Blood Meridian and The Wind-up Bird Chronicle. Both of these books will be required reading in pretty much every literature program one day.

EDIT: Great discussion of Blood Meridian with Harold Bloom in, of all places, the Onion.

 

[rodg12]

Standings:

Cats: Pol Doc, Doc, Plays, Phil/Pol Ideas, WC, TV, N-f Books, Comps, Movies, Novels

Did anyone ever rank MfB's compositions?

Yep, Krista ranked them. However, I did not include them in this latest ranking update. Will correct shortly.......

 

[anborn]

Novels Rankings:

Thatguy - 83

Genedoc/Bonzai - 79

MisfitBlondes - 75

Uncle Humuna - 66

Timschochet - 64

BobbyLayne - 64

Team CIA - 62

Bob Lee Swagger - 59

Doug B - 55

El Floppo - 52

Fennis/Krista - 51

Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 51

Abrantes - 50

Postradamus - 49

Rodg - 45

DC Thunder - 43

Scott Norwood/Anborn - 42

Yankee23Fan - 37

Tides of War - 36

Tirnan - 31

Anborn's picks sucked. Mine were rated highly.

i can't help that atlas shrugged is getting #### on.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Novels Rankings:Tides of War - 36

postradamus>gllll

 

[ScottNorwood]

Novels Rankings:

Thatguy - 83

Genedoc/Bonzai - 79

MisfitBlondes - 75

Uncle Humuna - 66

Timschochet - 64

BobbyLayne - 64

Team CIA - 62

Bob Lee Swagger - 59

Doug B - 55

El Floppo - 52

Fennis/Krista - 51

Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 51

Abrantes - 50

Postradamus - 49

Rodg - 45

DC Thunder - 43

Scott Norwood/Anborn - 42

Yankee23Fan - 37

Tides of War - 36

Tirnan - 31

Anborn's picks sucked. Mine were rated highly.

i can't help that atlas shrugged is getting #### on.

Never read it

 

[rodg12]

Standings:

Cats: Pol Doc, Doc, Plays, Phil/Pol Ideas, WC, TV, N-f Books, Comps, Movies, Novels

Genedoc/Bonzai - 440

Timschochet - 421

Uncle Humuna - 411

Fennis/Krista - 375

BobbyLayne - 367

Bob Lee Swagger - 358

Rodg - 350

Team CIA - 345

Postradamus - 341

El Floppo - 334

Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 325

Tides of War - 308

Abrantes - 303

DC Thunder - 297

Tirnan - 297

MisfitBlondes - 296

Thatguy - 284

Doug B - 270

Yankee23Fan - 259

Scott Norwood/Anborn - 240

Updated with MfB's compositions included. Jumps him ahead of Thatguy.

 

[flysack]

alright I have novels all pointed out, but I don't have any snappy comments like other judges have provided, but this category is huge and I'm a busy man (all of a sudden). Any questions you have I'd be happy to address

20

The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald

Ulysses - James Joyce

The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee Wow. Posty, this is extremely overrated. This is a good novel that doesn't belong on the same shelf as these masterpieces, let alone the same tier. I'd drop it at least to 14. If you give The Stranger a 14, then this novel is a 14 at best. The Stranger >> To Kill a Mockingbird

Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes

19

In Search of Lost Time or Remembrance of Things Past - Marcel Proust This is a 20 pointer, easily. It's an absolute masterpiece. Proust's vision is unparalleled.

1984 - George Orwell

Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert

War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy

18

The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck

Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov

David Copperfield - Charles Dickens

The Trial - Franz Kafka I've trumpeted my love for this book and author before. It's tier one in my book, but I can see how others might disagree. It shouldn't be any lower than Tier 2 though.

Moby **** - Herman Melville

17

Catch-22 - Joseph Heller

The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka Same as above. I'd bump it up a tier..

Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain Only in America would this be ranked so high. Take that for what it's worth.

Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy Way too low.

16

One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez

The Sound and the Fury – William Faulkner Tier 2

The Sun Also Rises - Ernest Hemingway

Brave New World - Aldous Huxley Far too high. I love this novel, but the competition is tough and it doesn't belong up here.

Animal Farm - George Orwell

15

A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man - James Joyce

Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift

Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte

Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus - Mary Shelly Wollenstonecroft

Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky

14

Lord of the Flies - William Golding

Beloved - Toni Morrison

Robinson Crusoe - Daniel Defoe

Bleak House - Charles Dickens

The Stranger - Albert Camus Too low

13

Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon I'd bump it up a bit - it's a marathon read, but the scope is outrageous.

Great Expectations – Charles Dickens

Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut

Native Son - Richard Wright

Candide - Voltaire

12

The Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll

The Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison

Absalom Absalom! - William Faulkner

Siddartha - Herman Hesse

11

The Scarlet Letter - Nathianel Hawthorne

Middlemarch - George Elliot

A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess

Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Stevenson

Pilgrims Progress - John Bunyan

10

The Red Badge of Courage - Stephen Crane

Dead Souls - Nikolai Gogol

Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck

As I Lay Dying - William Faulkner

The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoevsky Too low

9

A Passage to India - E.M. Forster

The Sorrows of Young Werther - J.W. von Goethe

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - Ken Kesey

On The Road - Jack Kerouac

Naked Lunch - William Burroughs Far too low

8

The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkien

The Red and the Black - Stendhal

Tender Is the Night - F. Scott Fitzgerald

Things Fall Apart - Chinua Achebe

Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut

7

Le Morte d'Arthur - Sir Thomas Malory

Nostromo - Joseph Conrad

Aesop's Fables - Aesop

Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens

The Last of the Mohicans - James Fenimore Cooper

6

The Jungle - Upton Sinclair

Les Misérables - Victor Hugo

Ethan Frome - Edith Wharton

The Little Prince - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

U.S.A. Trilogy - John Roderigo Dos Passos

5

Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie

The Master and the Marguerita - Mikhail Bulgakov

The Stand - Stephen King

Dune - Frank Herbert

All Quiet on the Western Front - Erich Maria Remarque

4

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle - Haruki Murakami FAR too low. This novel is much better than the 20 novels listed immediately above it, with the exception of Dos Passos.

Flowers for Algernon - Daniel Keyes

Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein

Darkness at Noon - Arthur Koestler

The Sirens of Titan - Kurt Vonnegut

3

Uncle Tom's Cabin - Harriet Beecher Stowe

Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand

Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad

Grimm's Fairy Tales - Kinder

2

Jaws - Peter Benchley

City of Glass - Paul Auster

Sometimes a Great Notion - Ken Kesey

A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens

If on a Winter's Night a Traveler - Italo Calvino

Team Guapo’s Picks:

The Catcher in the Rye – J.D. Salinger

Emma – Jane Austen

The Count of Monte Cristo – Alexandre Dumas

The Tale of Genji - Murasaki Shikibu

Blood Meridian – Cormac McCarthy

Ack. I didn't think I'd disagree this much. That Harper Lee ranking is incredible. I'm really surprised you'd overrate it that much.

 

[Genedoc]

Novels Rankings:Thatguy - 83Genedoc/Bonzai - 79MisfitBlondes - 75Uncle Humuna - 66Timschochet - 64BobbyLayne - 64Team CIA - 62Bob Lee Swagger - 59Doug B - 55El Floppo - 52Fennis/Krista - 51Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 51Abrantes - 50Postradamus - 49Rodg - 45DC Thunder - 43Scott Norwood/Anborn - 42Yankee23Fan - 37Tides of War - 36Tirnan - 31

Props to thatguy for crushing a tough category. Anchored by Tolstoy and Dostoyevski, he then snagged a nominee for steal of the draft getting "Lost Time" in the 19th round. Finished it off with a novel I'm not familiar with that I obviously should be (Gravity's Rainbow) and a Dickens' masterpiece, and it's a helluva formidable line up. Scoring more than 80 points in a category is not easy. Kudos.

 

[Bonzai]

Novels Rankings:Thatguy - 83Genedoc/Bonzai - 79MisfitBlondes - 75Uncle Humuna - 66Timschochet - 64BobbyLayne - 64Team CIA - 62Bob Lee Swagger - 59Doug B - 55El Floppo - 52Fennis/Krista - 51Wikkidpissah/Big Rocks - 51Abrantes - 50Postradamus - 49Rodg - 45DC Thunder - 43Scott Norwood/Anborn - 42Yankee23Fan - 37Tides of War - 36Tirnan - 31

Props to thatguy for crushing a tough category. Anchored by Tolstoy and Dostoyevski, he then snagged a nominee for steal of the draft getting "Lost Time" in the 19th round. Finished it off with a novel I'm not familiar with that I obviously should be (Gravity's Rainbow) and a Dickens' masterpiece, and it's a helluva formidable line up. Scoring more than 80 points in a category is not easy. Kudos.

Pretty sure what you meant to say is that we're beating everyone's #####.

 

[Bonzai]

The novel rankings are great, but I'll pile on and say that the To Kill a Mockingbird placement is outrageous. Well, at least as outrageous as a ranking of the greatest novels on a fantasy football message board can be.

 

[timschochet]

Pretty sure what you meant to say is that we're beating everyone's #####.

It ain't over till its over.

 

[Abrantes]

Didn't think they'd get high scores, but I'm comforted by the blanket of knowing that my two 2-point novels (City of Glass and If on a Winter's Night a Traveler) are more enjoyable reads than a lot of the stuff above them - at least for me.

 

[Postradamus]

Didn't think they'd get high scores, but I'm comforted by the blanket of knowing that my two 2-point novels (City of Glass and If on a Winter's Night a Traveler) are more enjoyable reads than a lot of the stuff above them - at least for me.

I certainly enjoyed City of Glass maybe more than half of the novels I've read on the list, but hell it's tough to say where it really should rank in a draft like this.Maybe I'm slighted by my spending an entire literature course discussing To Kill a Mockingbird's greatness, but I really think it belongs up there. Either way, tough cookies.

 

[flysack]

Maybe I'm slighted by my spending an entire literature course discussing To Kill a Mockingbird's greatness, but I really think it belongs up there. Either way, tough cookies.

Was this in college ?

 

[Postradamus]

just to get an idea how ridiculous attempting to judge the greatest novels of all time is, just have a look at these completely differing lists compiled by "experts"

Observer

Modern Library

BBC's Big Read

some other top 25 list

you get the idea. no one knows.

 

[Postradamus]

Maybe I'm slighted by my spending an entire literature course discussing To Kill a Mockingbird's greatness, but I really think it belongs up there. Either way, tough cookies.

Was this in college ?

preschool, I'm very advanced. it wasn't the whole class...we had to fit in Everybody Poops

 

[wikkidpissah]

Everybody Poops on your ranking of TKAM.

 

[Postradamus]

alright I have novels all pointed out, but I don't have any snappy comments like other judges have provided, but this category is huge and I'm a busy man (all of a sudden). Any questions you have I'd be happy to address

20

The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald

Ulysses - James Joyce

The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee Wow. Posty STOP CALLING ME POSTY, this is extremely overrated. This is a good novel that doesn't belong on the same shelf as these masterpieces, let alone the same tier. I'd drop it at least to 14. If you give The Stranger a 14, then this novel is a 14 at best. The Stranger >> To Kill a Mockingbird You're entitled to your opinion, but I'd bet more disagree with you than agree.

Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes

19

In Search of Lost Time or Remembrance of Things Past - Marcel Proust This is a 20 pointer, easily. It's an absolute masterpiece. Proust's vision is unparalleled. 19 is good enough

1984 - George Orwell

Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert

War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy

18

The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck

Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov

David Copperfield - Charles Dickens

The Trial - Franz Kafka I've trumpeted my love for this book and author before. It's tier one in my book, but I can see how others might disagree. It shouldn't be any lower than Tier 2 though. This is in tier one

Moby **** - Herman Melville

17

Catch-22 - Joseph Heller

The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka Same as above. I'd bump it up a tier.. same as above

Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain Only in America would this be ranked so high. Take that for what it's worth. Last time I checked, I'm in America

Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy Way too low.

16

One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez

The Sound and the Fury – William Faulkner Tier 2

The Sun Also Rises - Ernest Hemingway

Brave New World - Aldous Huxley Far too high. I love this novel, but the competition is tough and it doesn't belong up here.

Animal Farm - George Orwell

15

A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man - James Joyce

Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift

Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte

Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus - Mary Shelly Wollenstonecroft

Notes from the Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky

14

Lord of the Flies - William Golding

Beloved - Toni Morrison

Robinson Crusoe - Daniel Defoe

Bleak House - Charles Dickens

The Stranger - Albert Camus Too low

13

Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon I'd bump it up a bit - it's a marathon read, but the scope is outrageous.

Great Expectations – Charles Dickens

Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut

Native Son - Richard Wright

Candide - Voltaire

12

The Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll

The Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison

Absalom Absalom! - William Faulkner

Siddartha - Herman Hesse

11

The Scarlet Letter - Nathianel Hawthorne

Middlemarch - George Elliot

A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess

Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Stevenson

Pilgrims Progress - John Bunyan

10

The Red Badge of Courage - Stephen Crane

Dead Souls - Nikolai Gogol

Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck

As I Lay Dying - William Faulkner

The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoevsky Too low

9

A Passage to India - E.M. Forster

The Sorrows of Young Werther - J.W. von Goethe

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - Ken Kesey

On The Road - Jack Kerouac

Naked Lunch - William Burroughs Far too low

8

The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkien

The Red and the Black - Stendhal

Tender Is the Night - F. Scott Fitzgerald

Things Fall Apart - Chinua Achebe

Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut

7

Le Morte d'Arthur - Sir Thomas Malory

Nostromo - Joseph Conrad

Aesop's Fables - Aesop

Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens

The Last of the Mohicans - James Fenimore Cooper

6

The Jungle - Upton Sinclair

Les Misérables - Victor Hugo

Ethan Frome - Edith Wharton

The Little Prince - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

U.S.A. Trilogy - John Roderigo Dos Passos

5

Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie

The Master and the Marguerita - Mikhail Bulgakov

The Stand - Stephen King

Dune - Frank Herbert

All Quiet on the Western Front - Erich Maria Remarque

4

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle - Haruki Murakami FAR too low. This novel is much better than the 20 novels listed immediately above it, with the exception of Dos Passos.

Flowers for Algernon - Daniel Keyes

Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein

Darkness at Noon - Arthur Koestler

The Sirens of Titan - Kurt Vonnegut

3

Uncle Tom's Cabin - Harriet Beecher Stowe

Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand

Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad

Grimm's Fairy Tales - Kinder

2

Jaws - Peter Benchley

City of Glass - Paul Auster

Sometimes a Great Notion - Ken Kesey

A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens

If on a Winter's Night a Traveler - Italo Calvino

Team Guapo’s Picks:

The Catcher in the Rye – J.D. Salinger

Emma – Jane Austen

The Count of Monte Cristo – Alexandre Dumas

The Tale of Genji - Murasaki Shikibu

Blood Meridian – Cormac McCarthy

Ack. I didn't think I'd disagree this much. That Harper Lee ranking is incredible. I'm really surprised you'd overrate it that much.

You really don't. there's 100 novels here and you mentioned 12 things. I'd say we're in overall agreement.

 

[jmp]

I have a whole lot of books to add to my reading list now. I wish I could read more often than just on my lunchbreak (or while driving ). i will let y'all know in 2012 how I liked all these novels.

 

[Fennis]

(or while driving ).

http://www.audiobooks.com/

 

[Postradamus]

I have a whole lot of books to add to my reading list now. I wish I could read more often than just on my lunchbreak (or while driving ). i will let y'all know in 2012 how I liked all these novels.

no kidding. I'll admit not reading more than half of the novels I ranked, I have a big list now. Every one of the novels picked are all critically acclaimed and belong on the list. Great job to all the drafters.

 

[krista4]

alright I have novels all pointed out, but I don't have any snappy comments like other judges have provided, but this category is huge and I'm a busy man (all of a sudden). Any questions you have I'd be happy to address

20

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee

I stopped reading here.

 

[krista4]

The only pick that stands out in my mind is To Kill A Mockingbird. A fine, compelling and fun to read coming of age novel. In no way does it deserve a 20 on the list you have there. There's a novel you awarded 3 points, Heart of Darkness, that deserves a higher ranking than Mockingbird. I know this is subjective, but come now.

 

[Fennis]

alright I have novels all pointed out, but I don't have any snappy comments like other judges have provided, but this category is huge and I'm a busy man (all of a sudden). Any questions you have I'd be happy to address

20

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee

I stopped reading here.

dont be mean to Posty.

 

[krista4]

Standings:

Cats: Pol Doc, Doc, Plays, Phil/Pol Ideas, WC, TV, N-f Books, Comps, Movies, Novels

Did anyone ever rank MfB's compositions?

 

[jmp]

(or while driving ).

http://www.audiobooks.com/

Thanks! But it really is a lot more exciting to explain to the officer that reading a book was the reason you rear-ended the poor little old lady in front of you.

 

[krista4]

alright I have novels all pointed out, but I don't have any snappy comments like other judges have provided, but this category is huge and I'm a busy man (all of a sudden). Any questions you have I'd be happy to address

4

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle - Haruki Murakami FAR too low. This novel is much better than the 20 novels listed immediately above it, with the exception of Dos Passos.

Ack. I didn't think I'd disagree this much. That Harper Lee ranking is incredible. I'm really surprised you'd overrate it that much.

I didn't expect it to rate highly, especially when Post said he hadn't read it, but you're certainly right. Oh well.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee Wow. Posty STOP CALLING ME POSTY, this is extremely overrated.

 

[Postradamus]

guess my plot to destroy the draft is working...

 

[Postradamus]

k here's my final rankings for poems, I'll post the acting performances next (hint: I'm not changing them because I don't give a #### and the rest of the categories won't even get judged anyway)

20s

The Iliad –

Divine Comedy - Dante Alighieri

19s

The Odyssey –

Paradise Lost - John Milton

18s

The Aeneid – Virgil

The Nibelungenlied

17s

Sonnet 18 - William Shakespeare

Beowulf

16s

The Bhagavad Gita

The Waste Land - T.S. Eliot

15s

The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock - T.S. Eliot

The Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Samuel Taylor Coleridge

14s

The Raven - Edgar Allan Poe

The Second Coming - William Butler Yeats

13s

Jabberwocky - Lewis Carol

Sonnet 116 -William Shakespeare

12s

Because I Could Not Stop For Death - Emily Dickinson

Funeral Blues - W.H. Auden

11s

The Charge of the Light Brigade - Alfred, Lord Tennyson

Song of Myself - Walt Whitman

10s

The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost

A Nation's Strength - Ralph Waldo Emerson

9s

The New Colossus - Emma Lazarus

Don Juan - Lord Byron

8s

When Lilacs Last in the Door-yard Bloom'd - Walt Whitman

If - Rudyard Kipling

7s

Epic of Gilgamesh

O Captain! My Captain! - Walt Whitman

6s

Annabel Lee - Edgar Allan Poe

Poem on the Lisbon Disaster - Voltaire

5s

Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening - Robert Frost

Nirvana - Charles Bukowski

4s

Howl - Allen Ginsberg

First They Came - Pastor Martin Niemöller

3s

Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night - Dylan Thomas

You Are the Macrocosm – Rumi

2s

The Duino Elegies - Rainer Marie Rilke

In Flanders Field - John McRae

Team Guapo’s Poems: I'll rate where they fit into these, because I don't care

11 For Whom the Bell Tolls - John Donne

18 The Canterbury Tales - Geoffrey Chaucer

 

[Postradamus]

ANNNNNNND here's my final rankings I graciously took hours out of my life to rank (why?) This has been a ####show we all have been calling the "Greatest Works Draft" mistakenly the entire duration. Again, ACP won this thing by several lengths. I've had a nice time getting to know a few of you, not all unfortunately...I haven't changed these at all from earlier, blame wikkid if you don't like it, he applauded my first efforts via PM so I figured they're good enough to not #### with anymore.

Acting Performance Tiers

20

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee

Terry Malloy in On the Waterfront - Marlon Brando

Sophie Zawistowski in "Sophie's Choice" - Meryl Streep

Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull - Robert DeNiro

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb - Peter Sellers

19

Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver - Robert DeNiro

Gandhi - Sir Ben Kingsley

Dr. Hannibal Lector in The Silence of the Lambs - Sir Anthony Hopkins

R.P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - Jack Nicholson

18

Sonny Wortzik in Dog Day Afternoon - Al Pacino

Don Vito Corleone in The Godfather - Marlon Brando

Col. Nicholson in The Bridge on the River Kwai - Sir Alec Guinness

Christy Brown in My Left Foot - Daniel Day Lewis

17

Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With The Wind - Vivien Leigh

Atticus Finch in To Kill A Mockingbird - Gregory Peck

The Great Dictator - Charlie Chaplin

George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy - James Cagney

16

Henry V - Sir Laurence Olivier

Stanley Kowlski in A Streetcar Named Desire - Marlon Brando

Lt. Col. Wilbur "Bull" Meechum in The Great Santini - Robert Duvall

Patton - George C. Scott

15

Jack Torrance in The Shining - Jack Nicholson

Don Michael Corleone in The Godfather II - Al Pacino

Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore in Apocalypse Now - Robert Duvall

Rick Blaine in Casablanca - Humphrey Bogart

14

George Baily in It's a Wonderful Life - James Stewart

Eleanor of Aquitaine in the Lion of Winter - Katherine Hepburn

Shelley "The Machine" Levene in Glengarry Glen Ross - Jack Lemmon

The Passion of Joan of Arc - Renee Maria Falconetti

13

Robert Eroica Dupea in Five Easy Pieces - Jack Nicholson

Last Tango in Paris - Marlon Brando

Guido Orefice in Life Is Beautiful - Roberto Benigni

Commander James Bond in Goldfinger - Sean Connery

12

Norman Bates in Psycho - Anthony Perkins

The Joker in The Dark Knight - Heath Ledger

Amon Goeth in Schindler's List - Ralph Fiennes

Juror #8 in 12 Angry Men - Henry Fonda

11

Patrick Bateman in American Psycho - Christian Bale

Antonion Saleri in Amadeus - F. Murray Abraham

Sara Goldfarb in Requiem for a Dream - Ellen Burstyn

Raymond Babbitt in Rain Main - Dustin Hoffman

10

Truman Capote in Capote - Phillip Seymour Hoffman

Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men - Javier Bardem

Mary Poppins in Mary Poppins - Julie Andrews

Marshal Will Kane in High Noon - Gary Cooper

9

Tony Montana in Scarface - Al Pacino

A Woman Under the Influence - Gena Rowlands

Dr. Christian Szell in Marathon Man - Sir Lawrence Olivier

Forrest Gump in Forrest Gump - Tom Hanks

8

Capt. Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean - Johnny Depp

Clarice M. Starling in The Silence of the Lambs - Jodi Foster

Enrico Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy - Dustin Hoffman

The Elephant Man - John Hurt

7

Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs - Michael Madsen

The Year of Living Dangerously - Linda Hunt

Andrew Beckett in Philadelphia - Tom Hanks

Carlo Bartolucci (Charlie Barret) in Suicide Kings - Christopher Walken

6

Don Lockwood in Singin' In The Rain - Gene Kelly

Detective James "Popeye" Doyle in The French Connection - Gene Hackman

Fred C. Dobbs in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre - Humphrey Bogart

Martha in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf - Elizabeth Taylor

5

Gordon Gekko in Wall Street - Michael Douglas

Max Cady in Cape Fear - Robert Mitchum

Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood - Daniel Day Lewis

Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard - Gloria Swanson

4

Luke Jackson in Cool Hand Luke - Paul Newman

Jim Stark in Rebel Without A Cause - James Dean

Ruth Popper in The Last Picture Show - Cloris Leachman

Professor Kingsfield in The Paper Chase - John Houseman

3

Father Flanagan in Boy's Town - Spencer Tracy

Homer Parrish in The Best Years of Our Lives - Harold Russell

Bad Lieutenant in Bad Lieutenant - Harvey Keitel

Tuco in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - Eli Wallach

2

Loren Visser in Blood Simple - M. Emmet Walsh

Randy "The Ram" Robinson - Mickey Rourke

Helene McCready in Gone Baby Gone - Amy Ryan

Ethan Edwards in The Searchers - John Wayne

Team Guapo’s picks: I’ll rate where I think they go.

20 T.E. Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia - Peter O'Toole

14 Howard Beale in Network - Peter Finch

11 Ray Charles in Ray - Jamie Foxx

4 Edward Scissorhands - Johnny Depp

I'M FREE!!!! nufced.

get bent.

lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

4 points for Cool Hand Luke? harsh

Michael Madsen and Aidsy Tom Hanks ahead of Daniel Day Lewis?

impossible category. nufced.

 

[timschochet]

Actually the Canterbury Tales gets a big fat 20

For Whom The Bell Tolls 6

Those are official rankings.

Oh yeah, and Postradamus- the last line of Paster Neimoller's poem has been rewritten to read:

Then they came for the guy who ranked this poem too low- and there was no one there to protest...

 

[Fennis]

whats the score?

Also the google site is missing our 60th round pick, although it was judged:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10479505

 

[timschochet]

T.E. Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia - Peter O'Toole 17

Howard Beale in Network - Peter Finch 12

Ray Charles in Ray - Jamie Foxx 9

Edward Scissorhands - Johnny Depp 1

 

[flysack]

just to get an idea how ridiculous attempting to judge the greatest novels of all time is, just have a look at these completely differing lists compiled by "experts"

Observer

Modern Library

BBC's Big Read

Those are some awesome lists. The one that lists Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire as the #5 best novel is MONEY. There's nothing like a phone vote to determine the world's greatest achievements.

 

[flysack]

Ack. I didn't think I'd disagree this much. That Harper Lee ranking is incredible. I'm really surprised you'd overrate it that much.

You really don't. there's 100 novels here and you mentioned 12 things. I'd say we're in overall agreement.

Well Posty, to be honest, I didn't roll up my sleeves out of politeness. If you want me to get into it, fine: your rankings totally suck. Jeezus man, you give The Stand a 5 but Heart of Darkness only a 3!

Forget it. I don't want to Larry_boy this draft up. Let the drafters file their complaints in triplicate.

 

[flysack]

Blood Meridian is one of maybe 4 novels published in the last 2 decades that Harold Bloom includes in the Cannon of Western Literature. It is certainly better than anything Stephen King ever wrote. It is an awesome work, and by awesome I mean that it inspires actual awe. Give it 25 points.

You have to be Krista's hubby right? That Bloom book must be bedside material. Just messing around. I have a copy of Bloom's pronouncements on my shelf too. Every once in awhile I amuse myself with its tidy lists. He has several Delillo novels there and would clearly suck Pynchon's knob if Tommy ever showed up at NYU. So I'm more with Bloom than against him.

 

[Postradamus]

Ack. I didn't think I'd disagree this much. That Harper Lee ranking is incredible. I'm really surprised you'd overrate it that much.

You really don't. there's 100 novels here and you mentioned 12 things. I'd say we're in overall agreement.

Well Posty, to be honest, I didn't roll up my sleeves out of politeness. If you want me to get into it, fine: your rankings totally suck. Jeezus man, you give The Stand a 5 but Heart of Darkness only a 3!

Forget it. I don't want to Larry_boy this draft up. Let the drafters file their complaints in triplicate.

To be perfectly honest with you, drysack...your snobbery is nearly matched by your lack of funny...but ### #### it you try hard. I know you've just been dying to unleash some of that nerdy knowledge that you think you possess from the get-go. You keep pimping the same novels, so I boosted them enough that I figured you would just shut the #### up and leave here already, but damnit I guess I didn't boost em far enough. You consistently act hostile in situations that do not call for it, well here it is. Wikkid and MB pretty much nailed you down the first time. And Sacky, to be honest, if you really want me to get into it, your overall posting in the FFA is useless if not a nuisance. There's something for you to go cry about you know wh:e:r:eoliteness is not your strong suit, I figured I'd try on your idea of it above

Oh and tim, please use the sack's ranks when he is finished posting them. Maybe krista will help him out. (seriously krista? you stopped reading after Mockingbird? you're better than that...we all have to deal with OH's albums rankings best we can, the least you can do is feign support or offer something useful rather than some snobbish remark, like we all care how far you got into reading it)

Overall, I enjoyed the task of ranking the impossible (except for some of us) and I learned a lot, had fun, did my part, tolerated enough...enjoyed most of it, but this has been the draft to end all drafts. bravo

:finger:

/meltdown

 

[flysack]

Here comes the SERIOUS BUSINESS

 

[Serious Business™]

Here comes the SERIOUS BUSINESS

I don't like you either bud.

 

[flysack]

Here comes the SERIOUS BUSINESS

I don't like you either bud.

Ok, now I'm depressed.

 

[rodg12]

whats the score?

Also the google site is missing our 60th round pick, although it was judged:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10479505

Weird! I know I put in on there after your team drafted it. It's back now.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

just to get an idea how ridiculous attempting to judge the greatest novels of all time is, just have a look at these completely differing lists compiled by "experts"

Observer

Modern Library

BBC's Big Read

Those are some awesome lists. The one that lists Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire as the #5 best novel is MONEY. There's nothing like a phone vote to determine the world's greatest achievements.

What a crock. Everyone knows that Order of the Phoenix is the best Harry Potter book, I've lost all my faith in self selected public opinion polls now.

 

[krista4]

Blood Meridian is one of maybe 4 novels published in the last 2 decades that Harold Bloom includes in the Cannon of Western Literature. It is certainly better than anything Stephen King ever wrote. It is an awesome work, and by awesome I mean that it inspires actual awe. Give it 25 points.

You have to be Krista's hubby right? That Bloom book must be bedside material. Just messing around. I have a copy of Bloom's pronouncements on my shelf too. Every once in awhile I amuse myself with its tidy lists. He has several Delillo novels there and would clearly suck Pynchon's knob if Tommy ever showed up at NYU. So I'm more with Bloom than against him.

As far as I know, we don't own the Bloom book. There are a lot of books around here, though; maybe I've missed it.Bit surprised by the Postradamus meltdown.