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***Official Grilling and Smoking Thread*** (1 Viewer)

When I looked at the recipe, it said to drain off 1/3 of the juice from the baked beans (which I did my best to do); I drained off all the juice from the kidney and black beans.
I upped it after I made it again a few weeks ago. Drain as much as you can because the brown sugar and the BBQ sauce are plenty. Also, if you make it with the smaller cans of beans, the juice drains off much better than the bit 117 ounce (#10) can of beans. The sauce is not nearly as thick. I'm not sure why. 

 
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The BGE is a nice grill but no where near best in breed. It does come with a legion of very zealous fans who will tell you otherwise. Those fans love to pay insanely inflated prices for BGE branded gear which is usually just rebranded with their logo and not made by them. I would look at a Primo, Blaze and Kamado Joe long before I looked at the BGE. 
Do you own a Kamado grill?  What are your thoughts on them generally?

 
Do you own a Kamado grill?  What are your thoughts on them generally?
I'm just a guy and not a pro like Fanatic, but I've looked hard at most of the major brands a few times and haven't been able to get past 1.) the cost, and 2.) the relatively tiny cooking area. I just don't see how a thousand dollar plus kamado is that much better than the combo of a decent charcoal grill (I have a decade old Char-Griller with >1000 in2 of cooking space @ under $150) and a WSM or Pit Barrel Smoker (both under 300 bucks if you shop around a bit). Probably depends a lot on how much capacity you need and exactly what techniques you are regularly using, but I'm not sold on the kamado grills personally.

 
I have a Kamado Joe and quite frankly, I only use it for high heat cooking and use my Traeger to for low and slow cooks.  I got the Kamado Joe as part of the ComboJoe, which is a stand for the Kamado Joe Gas Grill with a regular size Kamado Grill (I believe they stopped offering this setup recently).  Agree with CDL on small cooking area but do love getting it over 900 degrees for great searing heat.

 
Doubt that I can hit 900 degrees, but with natural lump charcoal fanned with a blow dryer I can get my grill screaming hot — hot enough to really sear steaks well in a minute or so when using the reverse-sear method. I probably go through a ton more fuel though than would a kamado.

 
Do you own a Kamado grill?  What are your thoughts on them generally?
I do own one. They are the best of both worlds. They can smoke low and slow for hours, if not a full day on one load of charcoal and they can sear blazing hot and fast. They are also fairly good at set it and forget it. The only thing that sucks about them is moving them. 

 
Thanks for the input.  Anyone have a Primo?  Looking online a bit and their oval set up seems to make a lot of sense to me with the ability to keep one side hot and one side cool.  Link below about set up.  Wondering if this is realistic or does the ceramic set up kind of make it not realistic.  Would love to find something that could be my only grill.  

http://www.primogrill.com/en-us/explore/new-to-primo

 
I do own one. They are the best of both worlds. They can smoke low and slow for hours, if not a full day on one load of charcoal and they can sear blazing hot and fast. They are also fairly good at set it and forget it. The only thing that sucks about them is moving them. 
What do you have and do you like it?  

 
I'm just a guy and not a pro like Fanatic, but I've looked hard at most of the major brands a few times and haven't been able to get past 1.) the cost, and 2.) the relatively tiny cooking area. I just don't see how a thousand dollar plus kamado is that much better than the combo of a decent charcoal grill (I have a decade old Char-Griller with >1000 in2 of cooking space @ under $150) and a WSM or Pit Barrel Smoker (both under 300 bucks if you shop around a bit). Probably depends a lot on how much capacity you need and exactly what techniques you are regularly using, but I'm not sold on the kamado grills personally.
The expense is the issue but I am working with limited space so don't see having more than 1 grill so looking for something that covers all the bases.  I love my Webber Kettle and WSM set up I have at my beach house.  

 
Redwes25 said:
What do you have and do you like it?  
I have a Grill Dome. It's a good grill. Hinge is amazing, 50% thicker than an Egg. Basically over engineered except for the fire bowl. No expansion joint and that bowl cracks all the time. I know two people that have and both had cracked bowls. Mine has never cracked. Had it about 6 years.

I had the Akorn before that. What I tell people is it does 80-85% of what a ceramic kamado can do for 30% of the price.  

If I had to get one today, it would probably be the Primo. The extra cooking space to be able to do indirect grilling is very nice. The other would be Vision. Being able to add fuel/smoke wood without removing the grill grate (and meat) from a hot grill is a nice touch. 

ETA, if I had to get just one kamado and price wasn't an option, it would be Komodo-Kamado all day long. And it would be that massive jumbo MFer that I could use as a bathtub if I had to.

 
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I've done all my work on a Weber 22" kettle and an old barrel smoker circa 1991.

Will never do gas, so that option is out.

At some point I'm going to have to change, since both are getting old and showing their age. The smoker I probably have a good 10 more years or so in it. Probably just replace the Weber kettle after this winter.

 
One side of the weld on my Weber kettle lid handle broke.  Anyone know of a good replacement?
Email Weber. More than likely they will just send you another one. I had an issue with one of mine. They asked me some questions and had me find some numbers stamped in the steel and they replace the lid, the legs, the ash catcher in the bottom. Basically all but the lower bowl. 

 
Email Weber. More than likely they will just send you another one. I had an issue with one of mine. They asked me some questions and had me find some numbers stamped in the steel and they replace the lid, the legs, the ash catcher in the bottom. Basically all but the lower bowl. 
Wow. Does it matter that I'm not the original owner?

 
Email Weber. More than likely they will just send you another one. I had an issue with one of mine. They asked me some questions and had me find some numbers stamped in the steel and they replace the lid, the legs, the ash catcher in the bottom. Basically all but the lower bowl. 
Interesting. My kettle is still solid, but the legs are getting pretty bad, as well as the ash catcher. 

Edit to add: this could also apply to my old broken down self.... :lol:

Thanks for the info.  :thumbup:

 
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Three racks of baby backs that went on a little after noon just crutched with a little bit (maybe 1/2 c.) of good apple cider — one of my go to techniques for 3-1-1 — painting the rendered pork fat / reduced cider mixture back on to the ribs during that last hour makes a ridiculously good sticky dark lacquer-style sauce / glaze. Wife has a big pan of her homemade mac and cheese ready to go in in an hour or so. Might put on five pounds tonight lol.

 
painting the rendered pork fat / reduced cider mixture back on to the ribs during that last hour makes a ridiculously good sticky dark lacquer-style sauce / glaze. 
More details please. 

I usually do ribs in my WSM, so all the drippings end up in the water pan.  Should I be collecting them?

 
More details please. 

I usually do ribs in my WSM, so all the drippings end up in the water pan.  Should I be collecting them?
I usually go 3-1-1 with baby backs, and there’s always some rendered fat / juices left in the foil after I take them back out for the last hour., so I started putting a little flavorful liquid in there, beer, juice, whatever. Cider, either hard or regular is my favorite. If you’re crutching anyway, might as well use the porky goodness left in the foil afterwards. Better than most sauces IMO.

 
Grilling two spatchcocked Amish free range chickens, one jerk (older daughter and myself) and one lemon-garlic-thyme (wife and younger daughter. Potato packet and the ubiquitous grilled Caesar on the side.

 
Pork shoulder yesterday. Had to pull it off the smoker early and finish in the oven but it came out great. Amazing how much of the raw weight disappears tho. 14# boneless to start, got 8# of pulled meat.

 
I usually go 3-1-1 with baby backs, and there’s always some rendered fat / juices left in the foil after I take them back out for the last hour., so I started putting a little flavorful liquid in there, beer, juice, whatever. Cider, either hard or regular is my favorite. If you’re crutching anyway, might as well use the porky goodness left in the foil afterwards. Better than most sauces IMO.
I do something like this with my Sweet Heat Cajun Ribs. Basically take some sort of spicy rub, obviously I used a Cajun rub. Smoke them for a couple hours then put in the foil, meat side down. Add about a cup of brown sugar on the back of the ribs, wrap in foil and put back on the cooker. Remove from the foil, reserving the sauce, back on the cooker for a little bit to firm up, then plate and drizzle with the sauce from the foil. 

 
I do something like this with my Sweet Heat Cajun Ribs. Basically take some sort of spicy rub, obviously I used a Cajun rub. Smoke them for a couple hours then put in the foil, meat side down. Add about a cup of brown sugar on the back of the ribs, wrap in foil and put back on the cooker. Remove from the foil, reserving the sauce, back on the cooker for a little bit to firm up, then plate and drizzle with the sauce from the foil. 
:thumbup: It's a great technique IMO.

 
:thumbup: It's a great technique IMO.
I was floored at how well it turned out. The rub I used is Riley's Rub which is owned by a guy here locally. He gave me the recipe. Since the rub has a good amount of salt, I literally used 3 ingredients, Ribs, Rub and Brown Sugar. I didn't go in to the process expecting much and it came out great. As more fat renders out of the ribs, the brown sugar forms a sweet and spicy slurry that is SOOOOOOO good. 

 
I was floored at how well it turned out. The rub I used is Riley's Rub which is owned by a guy here locally. He gave me the recipe. Since the rub has a good amount of salt, I literally used 3 ingredients, Ribs, Rub and Brown Sugar. I didn't go in to the process expecting much and it came out great. As more fat renders out of the ribs, the brown sugar forms a sweet and spicy slurry that is SOOOOOOO good. 
I'll have to try that with the brown sugar. The reduced cider / rendered pork fat / all-purpose BBQ rub mixture is delicious, but I really love the sweet / hot thing so I'll have to try your recipe for sure.

 
Pork shoulder yesterday. Had to pull it off the smoker early and finish in the oven but it came out great. Amazing how much of the raw weight disappears tho. 14# boneless to start, got 8# of pulled meat.
By the way, "8 pounds of pulled meat" is the name of my one-man Michael Hutchence tribute show.

 
Still haven't picked a sauce for my beef tenderloin I'm cooking tomorrow. 
If it's a whole beef tenderloin, why not simply put some gorgonzola cheese on top of it 5 minutes before it's done?  Assuming you slice it 1/4" thick, each slice will get a bit o' cheese, which is always tasty.

 
If it's a whole beef tenderloin, why not simply put some gorgonzola cheese on top of it 5 minutes before it's done?  Assuming you slice it 1/4" thick, each slice will get a bit o' cheese, which is always tasty.
I need to go a bit more fancy than that. Particularly for a client. I would do a gorgonzola sauce first, but then there's the SEO aspect. There are people that flat out despise blue cheese/gorgonzola. Could reduce the potential traffic.

 
I need to go a bit more fancy than that. Particularly for a client. I would do a gorgonzola sauce first, but then there's the SEO aspect. There are people that flat out despise blue cheese/gorgonzola. Could reduce the potential traffic.
Uncultured heathens. Maybe something along the lines of a horseradish cream sauce?

 
I need to go a bit more fancy than that. Particularly for a client. I would do a gorgonzola sauce first, but then there's the SEO aspect. There are people that flat out despise blue cheese/gorgonzola. Could reduce the potential traffic.
Cabernet reduction with Shrooms?

 
Here is one I just saw:

Yield

Makes about 1 1/2 cups

Ingredients

1 cup ketchup

2 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce

2 tablespoons distilled white vinegar

2 tablespoons mild-flavored molasses

2 tablespoons prepared horseradish

1 tablespoon plus 1 teaspoon sugar

1/2 teaspoon garlic powder

1/4 teaspoon kosher salt

1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper

1/4 teaspoon Louisiana-style hot sauce, such as Tabasco

Preparation

Whisk ketchup, Worcestershire, vinegar, molasses, horseradish, sugar, garlic powder, salt, pepper, and hot sauce in a medium bowl.

 
Cabernet reduction with Shrooms?
As a personal preference, that's the way to go. Photographically, not so much. I need something to contrast with the redness of the steak. The problem with being a BBQ/Grilling blogger is that practically everything is brown. Gotta have a pop of color from anything but the meat. 

 
As a personal preference, that's the way to go. Photographically, not so much. I need something to contrast with the redness of the steak. The problem with being a BBQ/Grilling blogger is that practically everything is brown. Gotta have a pop of color from anything but the meat. 
Bearnaise is the solution :D

 
The color is too dark. It needs to photograph well and the dark sauce on a dark steak is hard to make look good. 
Then do a Bearnaise as suggested though I think that is a bit over the top as a well made Bordelaise is the way to go.  I use the recipe from the French Laundry cookbook which I can send to you if you want.

Here is a recipe for Bearnaise that is fairly easy if you have never made before - https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/bearnaise-sauce-395049#reviews.  I tend to ditch the lemon as that is not really a Bearnaise sauce but some people like that added flavor.  

 
Then do a Bearnaise as suggested though I think that is a bit over the top as a well made Bordelaise is the way to go.  I use the recipe from the French Laundry cookbook which I can send to you if you want.

Here is a recipe for Bearnaise that is fairly easy if you have never made before - https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/bearnaise-sauce-395049#reviews.  I tend to ditch the lemon as that is not really a Bearnaise sauce but some people like that added flavor.  
That's a pretty good one. Still torn tho. Probably going to be a game time decision as I have to order this first thing in the morning. 

 

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