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Gonna try my first brisket this weekend. 

I'm sure there is a good rub somewhere in this thread. Could someone point me towards it?

TIA 
Very funny. Pepper + Salt (Kosher) is all that is needed with beef, especially brisket.  Some people use as high as 9:1.  I use closer to 4:1 due to my audience.  Adjust depending on your family's pepper tolerance.

Seriously, beef needs nothing more than pepper, salt, and smoke to be the most incredible thing you've ever eaten.  Everything else interferes or mutes the flavor.  As a reformed "over spicer*" of briskets I understand the urge to get creative, but don't. Just don't.  No crimes against beef need to be committed this weekend. Please. I beg you.

*Believe it or not, in my early days of making brisket I thought the greatest thing ever was to coat the entire brisket with that pre-chopped garlic crap that comes in a big jar. You know what garlic cooked over smoke for 15 hours does? It burns.  You know what burned garlic tastes like?  Bitter charcoal.  Don't be me.

 
Very funny. Pepper + Salt (Kosher) is all that is needed with beef, especially brisket.  Some people use as high as 9:1.  I use closer to 4:1 due to my audience.  Adjust depending on your family's pepper tolerance.

Seriously, beef needs nothing more than pepper, salt, and smoke to be the most incredible thing you've ever eaten.  Everything else interferes or mutes the flavor.  As a reformed "over spicer*" of briskets I understand the urge to get creative, but don't. Just don't.  No crimes against beef need to be committed this weekend. Please. I beg you.

*Believe it or not, in my early days of making brisket I thought the greatest thing ever was to coat the entire brisket with that pre-chopped garlic crap that comes in a big jar. You know what garlic cooked over smoke for 15 hours does? It burns.  You know what burned garlic tastes like?  Bitter charcoal.  Don't be me.
I don't know about no other spices by salt and pepper, but I agree that it needs to be pretty minimal with brisket. 

 
Very funny. Pepper + Salt (Kosher) is all that is needed with beef, especially brisket.  Some people use as high as 9:1.  I use closer to 4:1 due to my audience.  Adjust depending on your family's pepper tolerance.

Seriously, beef needs nothing more than pepper, salt, and smoke to be the most incredible thing you've ever eaten.  Everything else interferes or mutes the flavor.  As a reformed "over spicer*" of briskets I understand the urge to get creative, but don't. Just don't.  No crimes against beef need to be committed this weekend. Please. I beg you.

*Believe it or not, in my early days of making brisket I thought the greatest thing ever was to coat the entire brisket with that pre-chopped garlic crap that comes in a big jar. You know what garlic cooked over smoke for 15 hours does? It burns.  You know what burned garlic tastes like?  Bitter charcoal.  Don't be me.
I don't know about no other spices by salt and pepper, but I agree that it needs to be pretty minimal with brisket. 
I actually coat with mustard and then use ancho powder, salt, pepper and garlic.

 
That doesn’t mean that some people can’t enjoy something else 

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Yeah, Texans are pretty adamant about "Salt, pepper, post oak" is all you need for brisket. I love a great salt and pepper brisket, but sometimes I like to change things up. Just like I love a great steak with nothing but salt and pepper, but I also like a jerk steak from time to time. 

Also, BBQ restaurants make a mint in the Carolinas serving mustard based sauce on their pork. Doesn't mean that will fly everywhere. People have different tastes. To @Ron Swanson's point tho, if you stray from the salt and pepper, go easy. 

 
I actually coat with mustard and then use ancho powder, salt, pepper and garlic.
Ancho's great but it's for the next morning when you are making brisket tacos out of the leftovers (if you have any - I've started hiding a little of the point just for this purpose).  

 
Aaron Franklin uses salt and pepper only.  Seems to work pretty well for him.
Yep. And not just Aaron. All the greats do.  Even those outside of TX.  Competition may be the exception here but I don't really count that as eatin' BBQ. Look, don't get me wrong I suppose there are other ways to prepare brisket but I encourage everyone to try it this way at least once before they start futzing with things. It at least gives you a great baseline to understand the basic flavors and where they come from. 

 
E Street Brat said:
Gonna try my first brisket this weekend. 

I'm sure there is a good rub somewhere in this thread. Could someone point me towards it?

TIA 
Echo just salt and pepper.   Have some BBQ sauce available for those that can't be bothered with just delicious meat.  I'd focus more on trimming the meat than on the rub. (there's several youtube videos on this)

I'm doing a brisket ahead of tomorrow's NFL games. The forecast is for 20 to 25 mph winds plus rain (of course) Got the foil and duct tape ready for the kamado and a bowl for the Flame Boss. 

 
I used to only use salt an pepper, but now I've added an injection as well. It's a brisket injection from Meat Church. Amazing, amazing stuff. 

 
What grade of brisket do you buy?
Usually choice. But I swear Wisconsin sucks when it comes to beef, even at the standards set in grading. So my choice is probably not as good as a choice somewhere else... or maybe it's all in my head. I just always seem disappointed in the meat selection.

 
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Usually choice. But I swear Wisconsin sucks when it comes to beef, even at the standards set in grading. So my choice is probably not as good as a choice somewhere else... or maybe it's all in my head. I just always seem disappointed in the meat selection.
Do you find the injection is a flavor aid or a moisture aid? More so in the flat or the point?

 
So Ive had my Akorn kamado since X-mas....so far Ive done a pork butt (smoked), bone-in ribeyes, burgers, chicken wings, pork chops, bratwurst, boneless NY strips, and tonight I did marinated chicken legs and thighs. I havent been taking many pics but snapped one of the NY strips last night. I did em sous vide to 120 degrees and then seared em over high heat. They were fantastic.

https://imgur.com/l17x7rJ

I love this grill. I havent had to reload lump since I filled it before my first cook (the pork butt).

 
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SHIZNITTTT said:
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Brisket  18lbs of deliciousness.    
Stop me if you already know this but it looks like maybe the slices off to the right are cut with the muscle/grain.  You'll find with even the best and most perfectly cooked brisket that it is much more tender if it is cut against the grain, similar to flank or skirt for fajitas.

 
Stop me if you already know this but it looks like maybe the slices off to the right are cut with the muscle/grain.  You'll find with even the best and most perfectly cooked brisket that it is much more tender if it is cut against the grain, similar to flank or skirt for fajitas.
Yes.   I was in such a hurry to get it cut so everyone could eat and my wife grabbed those up for making nachos, tacos, and chili later in the week.

 
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I did a brisket yesterday. Due to 25 to 30 mph winds, I opted to finish in the oven after 9 hours in the smoker. After 30 minutes, meat probe reads no probe on my thermoworks. Double check it with back up thermoworks unit. Same thing. No problem as I have another new probe wire. After 4 hours, brisket is at 150. A little strange, so I decide to double check with instant read. Initial read is 205 and thermometer goes in like butta. Check another spot and it's 209.

I pull it and let it rest for 4 hours and results were great. Thankful I checked when I did. 

 
I did a brisket yesterday. Due to 25 to 30 mph winds, I opted to finish in the oven after 9 hours in the smoker. After 30 minutes, meat probe reads no probe on my thermoworks. Double check it with back up thermoworks unit. Same thing. No problem as I have another new probe wire. After 4 hours, brisket is at 150. A little strange, so I decide to double check with instant read. Initial read is 205 and thermometer goes in like butta. Check another spot and it's 209.

I pull it and let it rest for 4 hours and results were great. Thankful I checked when I did. 
I've had that happen when the probe gets into fat. You hit the nail on the head though, it is all about feel once it gets over about 195.  Glad it worked out!

 
I've had that happen when the probe gets into fat. You hit the nail on the head though, it is all about feel once it gets over about 195.  Glad it worked out!
I didn't realize that. I did a test in hot water later. 2 units read 160, the third read 140 (regardless of which unit it was plugged into) . That one went in the garbage. 

 
Ron Swanson said:
Do you find the injection is a flavor aid or a moisture aid? More so in the flat or the point?
Definitely flavor. I didn't notice if it affected moisture at all... it may have. But I've been pretty lucky lately on that front with or without an injection. I didn't notice it being any different with the point or flat.  

 
Definitely flavor. I didn't notice if it affected moisture at all... it may have. But I've been pretty lucky lately on that front with or without an injection. I didn't notice it being any different with the point or flat.  
Thanks.  One more question if you don't mind.  Do you find that it enhances the natural flavor of the beef OR do you find that it adds an additional flavor that makes it good (like say injecting a chicken with creole seasoning)?

 
Thanks.  One more question if you don't mind.  Do you find that it enhances the natural flavor of the beef OR do you find that it adds an additional flavor that makes it good (like say injecting a chicken with creole seasoning)?
It's definitely a beef flavor, so I'd say enhancing is probably the best word. I honestly think the brisket I get up here isn't as flavorful as in other parts of the country, so that may be part of it. I can appreciate those who are about salt and pepper only, but my brisket definitely tastes better with the injection. 

 
It's definitely a beef flavor, so I'd say enhancing is probably the best word. I honestly think the brisket I get up here isn't as flavorful as in other parts of the country, so that may be part of it. I can appreciate those who are about salt and pepper only, but my brisket definitely tastes better with the injection. 
Haha...too many old dairy cows!  The Cubans have a dish for that...ropa vieja.  Thanks for the answers.

 
Anyone had the chance to eat at Franklin's in Austin, Texas?   I just can't imagine waiting in line for 5 hours to get to eat BBQ!   They take orders before the restaurant opens and have to turn away people everyday.   

Locally people wait in line for an hour or more at Burnco in Tulsa.   Burnco will run out of certain meats everyday.  

 
Anyone had the chance to eat at Franklin's in Austin, Texas?   I just can't imagine waiting in line for 5 hours to get to eat BBQ!   They take orders before the restaurant opens and have to turn away people everyday.   

Locally people wait in line for an hour or more at Burnco in Tulsa.   Burnco will run out of certain meats everyday.  
I have eaten his barbecue many times but not at the restaurant. His brisket is the best I've ever had. I still wouldn't wait 5 hours.

 
Anyone had the chance to eat at Franklin's in Austin, Texas?   I just can't imagine waiting in line for 5 hours to get to eat BBQ!   They take orders before the restaurant opens and have to turn away people everyday.   

Locally people wait in line for an hour or more at Burnco in Tulsa.   Burnco will run out of certain meats everyday.  
I probably would’ve been down for such a thing before I got into smoking meats myself.  Back then I loved me some BBQ, but didn’t have the desire to cook it.  While their product most likely is superior to mine, with that much time I’d rather just cook myself and enjoy that process more. 

 
Anyone had the chance to eat at Franklin's in Austin, Texas?   I just can't imagine waiting in line for 5 hours to get to eat BBQ!   They take orders before the restaurant opens and have to turn away people everyday.   

Locally people wait in line for an hour or more at Burnco in Tulsa.   Burnco will run out of certain meats everyday.  
I havent.  I do want to.  But if you arent into waiting drive 45 mins to lockhart which is the bbq capital of the world.  Have your pick of the best OG bbq spots.  I like Kreuz Market. 

 
I havent.  I do want to.  But if you arent into waiting drive 45 mins to lockhart which is the bbq capital of the world.  Have your pick of the best OG bbq spots.  I like Kreuz Market. 
Kreuz is very different style brisket than Franklin. Good, but different. They use "cowboy pits" and not prime or high choice beef.  Basically where they burn the wood into coal and then shove it into the cooking pit. Closer in line with Franklin and nearby are La Barbecue, Micklethwaite, and Black Box if/when they are open.  Drive a little NW to Taylor for Louie Mueller's.  My personal overall favorite.

 
It's going to snow today in St. Louis. I went to the grocery store. Gobs and gobs of people in line at the store with bread, milk and eggs in their cart. Me? I had 2 slabs of spares. So I'm grilling some slabs today. I'm going jerk on one and not sure on the other slab. 

 
It's going to snow today in St. Louis. I went to the grocery store. Gobs and gobs of people in line at the store with bread, milk and eggs in their cart. Me? I had 2 slabs of spares. So I'm grilling some slabs today. I'm going jerk on one and not sure on the other slab. 
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After a seven day cure I smoked my own bacon a couple of weeks ago, best bacon I've ever had hands-down. Heading out to the butcher buy another pork belly today, which I'll cure and smoke next weekend. I'm also looking to give pastrami a go, inspired by seeing a guy do it on a Diners Drive-ins & Dives episode last night. This dude cured his for 20 days, seeing all kinds of variations online, with regards to curing time and what cut of brisket to buy and whether its pre-brined or not.

Anyone have a good pastrami recipe you've been successful with to refer me to?

 
After a seven day cure I smoked my own bacon a couple of weeks ago, best bacon I've ever had hands-down. Heading out to the butcher buy another pork belly today, which I'll cure and smoke next weekend. I'm also looking to give pastrami a go, inspired by seeing a guy do it on a Diners Drive-ins & Dives episode last night. This dude cured his for 20 days, seeing all kinds of variations online, with regards to curing time and what cut of brisket to buy and whether its pre-brined or not.

Anyone have a good pastrami recipe you've been successful with to refer me to?
I personally have a hard time endorsing the crime of turning a poor, defenseless, delicious brisket into pastrami but if you're gonna do it, I've heard Meathead's recipe is money.  And, hey, at least it's just the flat.  

https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/beef-and-bison-recipes/home-made-pastrami-thats-close-katzs-recipe

 
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Did the 3-2-1 method on a couple racks of ribs today.  Turned out great.  225 temp.    Dry rub, spraying every 30 minutes for the first 3 hours.  Pull and wrap for 2 hours, brown sugar, butter, head country bbq sauce.   Pull off aluminum foil and put back on grill for 1 hour painting on bbq sauce after 30 minutes and one final time on final removal from grill.   let rest.   eat.

Great taste with a little tug, great color.  

 
We don't have a butcher shop in town and Costco is 45 minutes away, but we do have Cal Poly Meats which is a student run meat packing facility.  I have picked up numerous items in the past which included beef ribs and briskets.  They have been mighty tasty.  Picked up 5 lb of beef ribs, and a 7 pound brisket flat.  Super Bowl Sunday here i come!

 
We don't have a butcher shop in town and Costco is 45 minutes away, but we do have Cal Poly Meats which is a student run meat packing facility.  I have picked up numerous items in the past which included beef ribs and briskets.  They have been mighty tasty.  Picked up 5 lb of beef ribs, and a 7 pound brisket flat.  Super Bowl Sunday here i come!
Short ribs or plate ribs?

 

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