MaxThreshold
Footballguy
I'm' not sure, to be honest. Would I politicize it two days after the tragedy? I doubt it.
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***OFFICIAL GUN CONTROL DEBATE*** (2 Viewers)
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Otis
Footballguy
Yeah that's it. People are looking at this as a great opportunity. You nailed it, Commando.
shader
Footballguy
"America, we need to arm out kindergarten teachers. We need to arm our secretaries. We need our nursery schools locked down and on guard. In fact we need every rational adult to carry a weapon. Only then will we be safe from evil people!"
Got it. You'd never express the idea that the deaths won't go in vain. Hell of a leader you'd make!
Ursa M
Footballguy
Don't bother, you're dealing with a bunch of paranoids. They all think Obama is coming for their guns.
Otis
Footballguy
MY GUNS MY GUNS OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
What...are you talking about? You're not making any sense, but nice try.
Ursa M
Footballguy
Your side politicized it immediately like they do every time one of these events occurs. You always say there needs to be time for mourning but what you really want is for nothing to happen.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Hypocrite. So it isn't ok for him to politicize this, but you can politicize him for doing it? I'll love this whole giant elephant in the room that we are apparently not supposed to talk about. If I were a parent, my kid is gone. There is nothing he can say to bring them back. So what is he going to do to make sure this never happens again? Maybe I'm pragmatic and looking at the end game here but how do you think laws like the Brady Law or MADD came about? B/c the family didn't want to let tragedy define them and didn't want parents or families to have to go through the same thing. We task the President and the government with protecting us, but when they fail to protect us, we aren't supposed to talk about why?
shader
Footballguy
Coming soon: "Loose Change 4". When government agents massacred Children to take away your 2nd amendment rights."
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Jesus Christ, dude! Repealing the 2nd amendment ranks right up there with Government run health-care on the liberal wish list. Don't act like it's an insignificant issue with you guys.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm sorry, I've been trying to figure out how to put assault weapons in every baby bjorn in every certified daycare facility in the U.S. what happened?
Mr Capicollo
Footballguy
What did he say exactly? Seems like you might be the one doing the stooping here.
Well said. Max this is what I was getting at.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Well, for one, I'm not standing up in front of the families of the victims so I'm allowed to politicize it. Besides, we are, after all, in the GUN CONTROL debate thread - political by nature.
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Otis
Footballguy
The truth is sometimes painful.
sporthenry
Footballguy
I guess this is how he mourns. By criticizing the President. He seems really worried about the victims here.
Ursa M
Footballguy
Only in your deranged imaginings.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
You actually believe this, don't you?
Otis
Footballguy
If we could build guns into cell phones, we could cover the populace pretty quickly. If everyone has a gun, then nobody really has a gun. Ammiright???But what if my neighbor starts carrying two guns?
General Malaise
Footballguy
God, I hope Obama carries through with his words tonight. We have to do something. This can't happen again. I hope and if I prayed, I'd pray for that. As a nation, we cannot just leave things they way they are. This has to be the issue that forces change. I hope.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Ouch. I must have struck a nerve.
Otis
Footballguy
I'm with you there brother.
The General
Footballguy
It was in poor taste for Obama to do anything even remotely political in that forum IMO.
shader
Footballguy
If we could build guns into cell phones, we could cover the populace pretty quickly. If everyone has a gun, then nobody really has a gun. Ammiright???But what if my neighbor starts carrying two guns?
SWC
Bromigo
it is rare that i see someone get owned like that brohan i agree with everything you say keep on talking and keep on being right i hunt i fish and i am more to the church side than not but i am no lover of the nra and its bs the sky is falling evertyhing is a slipperly slope argument there is no group with more blood on its hands except maybe the tobacco lobby bam a litte truth for the children its time for change on this bigtime take that to the bank
Of course he does, just like he actually believes the President said something he didn't remotely say. Belief is much, much more important than facts and reality to a shocking number of people.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
English, please.
Joe T
Footballguy
Amen.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Im a gun owner and obviously dont want the government taking my gun away, but your kind of kook thinking has to stop.
Brohan, please
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
What? Todd Andrews calling ME a kook? Oh, this is rich.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Having kindergarten teachers carry a 9 on their hips while wiping kids' noses.
I just saw in my Sunday paper circulars that places like bass pro shops, sports authority, walmart, etc. all sell guns. Maybe the first step is to have places like this NOT sell guns and make gun buyers go to legitimate gun shops to make sure they go through safety classes and screenings.
And I still think an all out ban on guns is just ridiculous and crazy talk.
And I still think an all out ban on guns is just ridiculous and crazy talk.
I didn't find that in poor taste. He won the election and gets the bully pulpit for 4 more years.I found the statement that god is calling the children home borderline Westboro Bapist Churchish. If that's the case, let's hand out fully automatic weapons to every lunatic and let as many children as possible be called home. I gave Obama credit for being smarter than this. You can't play the god's will card on one hand and then say we must prevent it from happening again. If there is a god (which I doubt), I'm pretty sure this isn't how he calls the children home.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Joe T
Footballguy
You misread the question.
SWC
Bromigo
guys i have been around and seen whats on the other side of town and there is no sweater music to my ears than hearing handgun laws and assault weapon laws might be coming brohans i was more of a gearhead than a hippy but somethings those guys had right even if my high and tight and four barrel interests never let me see it at the time i was wrong then and anyone who says otherwise is wrong now and i am telling you from having been around so get the laws in place and let the crazies whine it is high time for change brochachos
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Psstt...he was trying to comfort people.
Ursa M
Footballguy
Here are a few that maybe should be on the table:No private salesLicensing and periodic renewalMandated gun safes / trigger locks with severe penalties for violationThere are others but all these have been floated
SWC
Bromigo
i will tell you what in my experiene the wallmarts and sports authority are a whole hell of a lot more legitimate than the quote gun shops and that is for sure brohan
No grandfathered weapons
shader
Footballguy
A ban on guns is impossible in the US. There will be major fighting and problems if that was ever attempted.
Otis
Footballguy
At a minimum:1. Ban assault weapons. The gun hobby guys want to fight about what this means, but I say any rifles or weapons that are automatic or semi-automatic and capable of mowing down innocents the way it happened last week. I'm sure the gun folks can come up with the right definition.Beyond that:2. I think you really need to look at banning handguns. They're always involved in these sorts of things. It's too easy to hide them and take them anywhere. Yes, some people will be bummed they can't have their target practice hobby anymore, but they can find another hobby, and if less people are killed, that's an OK trade off. The handgun ban in England is a good model, and gun homicides are breathtakingly low.I can see some exceptions, because an outright ban would drive the far right bonkers. Hunting rifles seem relatively unproblematic. Leave them legal but regulated.Try it out for 5 or 10 years. Let's see what happens.
The General
Footballguy
I thought he was giving the speech at a memorial so just didn't like seeing him make any statements to politicize the moment. Maybe that would be impossible. Personally, I would have given this speech tomorrow during primetime.
