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You drink alcohol? Stop drinking alcohol, you freaking drunk. Drink water. Or lemonade. But alcohol? Just banned the freaking stuff. It's not worth this. Seriously. Stop being a fatbutt for 14 minutes and consider the trade off. It's not worth it. Partiers abusing the constitution for their right to a buzz or beer gut.
I'm convinced that the fascination with guns and weapons in general is indirectly proportional to the size of the man's penis.Somebody please tell me of the last woman to commit one of these mass murders.
No grocery stores where you live?
What if there was an armed guard at that school and he took out this guy?
Stop it. Stop grounding this discussion in reality. Just stop it. The guns had nothing to do with this.This is a fallacy. You can't just assume that any or all of them would do it/be nearly as successful without the gun. What else are they going to use? How often are people killed by pipe bombs? Is the success rate as high? Someone posted an earlier article about a Chinese Massacre where a guy knifed 22 primary school kids. You know how many died? 0. Guy was subdued by security guards.Hi Oats,Let me help you out here. Someone ####ed up enough to want to kill a bunch of kids is going to find a way to do it. Not being able to find a gun isn't going to stop him. HTH.Let me help you here, Cliff.There were two pieces in this puzzle today: a person, and guns.Oh, sorry, you're right. This guy just thought GUNS! "I can get GUNS! I'm gonna go kill a bunch of kids because GUNS!"Totally not important. It would have played out exactly the same way if he had a bucket of water balloons.Thanks Cliff for being so spot on again.Wrong Sherlock. The problem was with a nutjob who decided he wanted to kill a bunch of kids. The method isn't nearly as important.Sure sounds like a gun problem when 20 small children get shot with guns. But yeah, you've got this one solved, Matlock.
Maybe we just need MORE guns. Think about it. If all of those 5-year-olds were armed, this would have ended way better.
We need to put the hicks on an island out in the ocean and let them pretend they're still living in the 1800's. Only solution. Go shoot each other, who cares at that point.
It's gonna be hard to ban persons. Would make for a really awkward civilization to continue on. But hey, guess what? Guns? As between these two things, I think we could get rid of the guns and still get on alright.
Hope this lesson in logic for dummies helped.
Best,
Oats
Yours in Christ,
Cliff.
Law enforcement/security vs. civilian guns are different issues.
So wrong.
Stop making sense? Nah.
While I've never seen the peni in question, I have had this line of thinking validated by a few women after being complimented on my own overwhelming, awe-inspiring slightly above average sized penis. I've actually had the conversation a few times and women seem to be totally on board with the big truck, lots of guns, small penis thing.
Not any that carry free range pheasant, quail, duck, dove, venison, etc.
Man that is a slippery slope. I bet we will see a lot more armed security/off duty police officers at schools from now on. But, at least it is something to put up on the drawing board.
You didn't answer the question.
I promise you're not.
I promise I'm not.
yeah because there would be no way to get a gun unless you're in law enforcement or security.
They're at a disadvantage because the attacker will always have the element of surprise. You can't protect against this when they have guns.
Trade off's. You'll live. Others won't.
Attacker would have to know there whereabouts.
This kid was using his mommy's guns. You think this anti-social guy would have just run down the projects and bought himself a couple whistles?
Take care of alcohol first since it impacts more lives and once you knock that problem out you can address guns.
Is that true?
The several guns involved in this incident were registered to the shooter's mom. Not illegally. That's what we're talking about.But yeah, sure, you can get guns other ways. Just like there are a few different ways to get nuclear weapons. We still have an interest in limiting access to those as much as we can.I honestly can't have this conversation anymore. I need to find smart, educated, sensible people to discuss this with. I'll wait till tomorrow or something. In the meantime, you hicks have fun hunting quail for dinner, and fighting off looters and robbers, and playing cowboys and indians in your yards, while little kids get mowed down with deadly weapons.Thanks for being awesome americans. We need more of you guys. You make this country special and great.
http://www.dartagnan.com/51192/565680/Pheasant/Whole-Pheasant.htmlhttp://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/partridge_quail.htmlhttp://www.culverduck.com/cart/http://www.brokenarrowranch.com/Articles/exotic-meat-for-sale.htmhttp://www.elkusa.com/deer_meat.htmany other meat that you can't get from your grocer?
Jesus christ.
Maybe, maybe not. But hey, I'm all for a line of defense between somebody like this and innocents, I'm just not sure a gun walking the halls of an elementary school is a great idea.
Yeah. All the weapons found were bought legally by his mother.
Just for clarification...weren't you the guy who drugged up a girl and posted pics of her on the net?
What about the 35,000 other people that shoot and kill someone each year? We can't make any kind of broad decisions based one case out of tens of thousands.
I doubt most of that is free range.Regardless, any of you who partake in alcohol have no standing to take this position.
Deflection is often what pro gun guys do in these debates.
This is nothing new for Otis.
Nearly more Americans dies in alcohol related car accidents than gun related homicides each year. Factor in the other health related deaths from alcohol, it 2x more deaths than gun related deaths. If we ban guns, alcohol has got to go. It is more dangerous.
I can make more of a case for gun sales than I can for alcohol sales.I ran the numbers on DUI deaths today and it came out to 28 a day on average.
Ah, yes. Safer streets always means Hitler's coming.
Correlation doesn't imply causation. Cities always have higher crime rates. That whole idea that South Dakota doesn't have gun laws and has no murders while Chicago has strict laws and tons of murders means nothing. So you think that if they had no gun laws, things would be better? I can give you a ton of reasons why gun violence is higher in the cities like higher poverty rate, higher unemployment, less educated, etc. So is it the gun laws or the other stuff which South Dakota also doesn't have? Is it possible Chicago would be even worse without any gun laws? And part of the reason cities suffer is b/c the laws aren't uniform. They can go to South Dakota and get a gun very easily. Yes, there are a ton of illegal guns out there. There are also a ton of guns which are seized. So the whole idea that banning/restricting them now won't do anything is false. That gun sold legally without restriction now is fine but 10 years from now, that will be the same illegal gun used in a crime.
Yeah, but pretty much every is on board with alcohol. Guns, not so much.
Yup...but Oats will kick back with a cocktail and tell us why guns are so evil yet alcohol is a good thing. While you can laugh at people who plink cans for fun, the reality is that it's less dumb than poisoning your body.For the record, I enjoy a beer or few.
And if alcohol is banned and I can justify the risk (cost) of getting my hands on some moonshine I'll do it. I'm not defending alcohol, you brought it up, without being instigated, just like most pro gun guys do because they know their reasons for possessing firearms are selfish and not for the good of society. If you want to battle against alcohol then start another thread and battle in there but...given your handle and avatar I'm guessing you won't be doing that.
Not if the impulse passes while they're in the process of tracking down the means to do it.
Talk about taking a quote so far out of context.
Exactly.No thought into the bigger issue. Thank goodness gun owners aren't as small of a minority as homosexuals.
I think he's on the bottle or snorting again.Quite obvious he's a babbling fool here.Really?Go to bed Otis
Now down the homosexual route? Wow.Gun owners continue to have zero defense. You're selfish, that's really it.
My reasons for owning a gun are less selfish than someone needing a drink. We all see things from our own selfish viewpoint.
