***Official*** Heroes Thread (3 Viewers)

[Verbal Kint]

I think we were thrown alot of red herrings in this episode. I highly doubt that Hiro travels to prehistoric times.

One theory is that Hiro is fighting a dinosaur at the museum, which is being controlled by TK.

Not sure what to make of Peter's dream, but I'm confident he is not the bomb.

 

[jkruppe]

2 things. Is it possible that Peter's blowing up and "the bomb" are 2 separate events?

Second. Is it possible that Peter is the bomb and was supposed to die saving Claire, thereby saving the world from the destruction he'll cause when blowing up? Maybe Claire wasn't supposed to help Peter heal?

 

[UOFI_316]

Do we know what Simone's power is??? She was in Peter's future dream, and the only people we saw were Heroes.

I also agree that for some reason Nathan looked very evil in the dream.

Hiro to Issac "You just have to concentrate :givesconstipatedlook:"

 

[snogger]

Do we know what Simone's power is??? She was in Peter's future dream, and the only people we saw were Heroes.

I forgot she was in the dream..

 

[Boone22]

Do we know what Simone's power is??? She was in Peter's future dream, and the only people we saw were Heroes.

I forgot she was in the dream..

Wasn't Mohinder in the dream as well? I may be mistaken but for some reason I remember him getting out of a taxi right in front of Peter during the dream.

 

[iamsmilin]

Simone & Mohinder were both in the dream. I think it was more symbolic of the people who will take a role in stopping the destruction of NY.

I'm really hating the Nikki/Jessica story line. Ali Larter isn't a good enough actress to try to play two different characters at the same time.

I am loving Isaac with Hiro right now.

 

[shadyridr]

Simone & Mohinder were both in the dream. I think it was more symbolic of the people who will take a role in stopping the destruction of NY.I'm really hating the Nikki/Jessica story line. Ali Larter isn't a good enough actress to try to play two different characters at the same time. I am loving Isaac with Hiro right now.

I disagree. I think shes doing a fine job as Nikki/Jessica. Esp as Jessica. She really does seem like a bad ###.

 

[Chemical X]

having the cheerleader run is akin to kim running in 24.......the more, the better.

 

[bryhamm]

Can we finally put to bed the issue about Nikki/Jessica and the tattoo? The tattoo appears when Jessica takes over.

 

[Native]

My favorite thing about the show is that all the Heroes are eager to exchange ideas with one another in order to try and figure things out - just like the audience. You see that with Isaac/Hiro, Peter/Claire, etc.

Its not like Lost, where all the charcaters have learned different secrets about the island but noone ever bothers to update anyone. I like that show, but its becoming maddening. Hey Jack - youve got Ben Linus at your mercy on the operating table - why dont you demand to find out what the hell is going on?!!!

 

[Gamblor]

Can we finally put to bed the issue about Nikki/Jessica and the tattoo? The tattoo appears when Jessica takes over.

Wasnt this always understood?

 

[iamsmilin]

BTW I think the Haitian isn't going to wipe Claire's memory, but the Secret part is that he will tell her about all the visions via the paintings from Issac. He and Eden both believe that Claire is a big part of will happen and they both know HRG will try to keep her out of things.

 

[Native]

Its too bad that theyre already starting to kill characters off. Thats a good strategy when the plot slows down and theres a feeling that the audience is begining to lose interest. But thats not the case here. Theyve built a compelling story on solid foundation, so theres no need to eliminating characters just yet.

I guess the feeling is that they can always add new heroes to the show.

 

[Dave Baker]

Its too bad that theyre already starting to kill characters off. Thats a good strategy when the plot slows down and theres a feeling that the audience is begining to lose interest. But thats not the case here. Theyve built a compelling story on solid foundation, so theres no need to eliminating characters just yet.

I think it adds to the feeling that anything can happen. Shows like this tend to know which characters can not be killed off though.I agree with iamsmilin. The Nikki/Jessica/DL/Micah storyline bores me and I don't like any of them as actors.I love the Hiro, Claire/HRG, Peter/Natahn and Matt (cop) stories though.This show is my current favorite.

 

[EYLive]

Its too bad that theyre already starting to kill characters off. Thats a good strategy when the plot slows down and theres a feeling that the audience is begining to lose interest. But thats not the case here. Theyve built a compelling story on solid foundation, so theres no need to eliminating characters just yet.I guess the feeling is that they can always add new heroes to the show.

Didn't they kill off Eden earlier than they wanted to cuz of contract disputes or something. I don't think this was part of the writers' original plan.

 

[Wheelhouse]

I have not seen last night's episode yet.... this is killing me not reading these posts.

 

[The Duff Man]

Its too bad that theyre already starting to kill characters off. Thats a good strategy when the plot slows down and theres a feeling that the audience is begining to lose interest. But thats not the case here. Theyve built a compelling story on solid foundation, so theres no need to eliminating characters just yet.I guess the feeling is that they can always add new heroes to the show.

Didn't they kill off Eden earlier than they wanted to cuz of contract disputes or something. I don't think this was part of the writers' original plan.

I believe an earlier spoiler said that they had initially planned to kill her off 6 episodes from now, but had to move things up due to a problem with her contract.

 

[miphin]

having the cheerleader run is akin to kim running in 24.......the more, the better.

She is a tasty treat, but her running style seems to remind me of Terminator2.Especially when she took off after her buddy turned up blank.

 

[The Duff Man]

Im wondering if 6 months ago was not the first time Claire developed these powers just that she doesnt remember. I also wonder if thats the Haitian guys secret.

I might be wrong, but I thought the Haitian specifically said he had wiped out their memory (Claire and her mom) before.

 

[Foosball God]

Im wondering if 6 months ago was not the first time Claire developed these powers just that she doesnt remember. I also wonder if thats the Haitian guys secret.

I might be wrong, but I thought the Haitian specifically said he had wiped out their memory (Claire and her mom) before.

I believe he said that he's seen her mother many, many times. I don't think he mentioned Claire.

 

[Dulymus Mudhounds]

Maybe I'm off base here, but it seemed there was a little love connection between cheerleader and Peter. That lucky SOB

Mud Out

 

[s_ezy]

Maybe I'm off base here, but it seemed there was a little love connection between cheerleader and Peter. That lucky SOB Mud Out

Claire is 17, and Peter is well into his 20s if not 30i think it was more Claire seeing someone else who she believes has her power, justification that she isn't the only "freak" out there

 

[iamsmilin]

Maybe I'm off base here, but it seemed there was a little love connection between cheerleader and Peter. That lucky SOB Mud Out

Claire is 17, and Peter is well into his 20s if not 30i think it was more Claire seeing someone else who she believes has her power, justification that she isn't the only "freak" out there

Actually, I think Claire has the crush and Peter is just happy to save her.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Its too bad that theyre already starting to kill characters off. Thats a good strategy when the plot slows down and theres a feeling that the audience is begining to lose interest. But thats not the case here. Theyve built a compelling story on solid foundation, so theres no need to eliminating characters just yet.I guess the feeling is that they can always add new heroes to the show.

The article in EW a few weeks back with the creator said that his plan was to kill off characters on a regular basis as new one's are introduced. FWIW, the article was written after the second or third episode, I believe.

 

[Dulymus Mudhounds]

Maybe I'm off base here, but it seemed there was a little love connection between cheerleader and Peter. That lucky SOB Mud Out

Claire is 17, and Peter is well into his 20s if not 30i think it was more Claire seeing someone else who she believes has her power, justification that she isn't the only "freak" out there

Actually, I think Claire has the crush and Peter is just happy to save her.

I agree with this. It seemed she was all into his chili.MO

 

[EYLive]

What's wrong with the right part of Peter's bottom lip? It looks like it's just hanging there as if it was injected with novacain. Maybe he's been spending to much time with Stallone on the Rocky set.

It's annoying, so's his hair.

 

[Dave Baker]

Im wondering if 6 months ago was not the first time Claire developed these powers just that she doesnt remember. I also wonder if thats the Haitian guys secret.

I might be wrong, but I thought the Haitian specifically said he had wiped out their memory (Claire and her mom) before.

I believe he said that he's seen her mother many, many times. I don't think he mentioned Claire.

Where was the mother at the end? Claire had asked about her and the father never gave an answer. I thought that was odd.Also, I wonder if the tapes that Claire destroyed were not copied by Zach?

 

[Gamblor]

What's wrong with the right part of Peter's bottom lip? It looks like it's just hanging there as if it was injected with novacain. Maybe he's been spending to much time with Stallone on the Rocky set.It's annoying, so's his hair.

I saw an interview or clip that mentioned when the actor that plays Peter has no nerve endings or feeling on that part of the lip. Dont remember if it said he was born like that or from an accident when he was a child.

 

[Mario Kart]

I love this show but I was disappointed in the erasing of Zach's memory. He was a great compliment to the Claire character. Now, if they move away from high school Claire in the future it is understood but I was not anticipating his memory wipe.

And, I was hoping Eden would not bite the dust. She was a good character that was connected to many people in the show. Now, Mohinder is kind of out on his own with one less major connection that he has. I thought Eden was set up to have a bigger role, imo.

At least the layoff till the next show is not that far away.

 

[stbugs]

I love this show but I was disappointed in the erasing of Zach's memory. He was a great compliment to the Claire character. Now, if they move away from high school Claire in the future it is understood but I was not anticipating his memory wipe.And, I was hoping Eden would not bite the dust. She was a good character that was connected to many people in the show. Now, Mohinder is kind of out on his own with one less major connection that he has. I thought Eden was set up to have a bigger role, imo.At least the layoff till the next show is not that far away.

I agree on Zach, kind of an Ando to Claire. Although, I was anticipating it as soon as she told her dad who knew and he asked if anyone else knew.I also think that Eden's death brings Mohinder in closer because she called him right before she died. I can't remember exactly what she said, but something tells me he will go looking for her when he hears nothing from her after that call.I have a couple weeks off at the end of the year and I need to get off my ### and get my HDTV setup again after getting into the new house. I only have a rinky dink little indoor antenna so I only get ABC well enough. With Lost, Heroes and 24 all coming back in January/February, gotta get moving.

 

[Regular Crust Pizza]

Any thoughts on why DL/Nikki/Micah were in Peter's dream who he hasn't met was in his dream?

 

[schlesinj]

Can we finally put to bed the issue about Nikki/Jessica and the tattoo? The tattoo appears when Jessica takes over.

Did anyone notice Jessica's tatoo is the same as the Hatian's necklace.

 

[Alias]

So Sylar knew HRG didn't have any powers otherwise he would have busted out long ago, he was targetting Eden the whole time. We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it, killing off Sylar would be too much of a loss for the story line which sucks since Eden was SUCH a BABE. Claire has a crush on Peter. Zach making copies of the tapes would be a nice twist to be able to introduce him later. Mohinder does have a special power with his dreams as weak of a power as that may seem.

 

[snogger]

So Sylar knew HRG didn't have any powers otherwise he would have busted out long ago, he was targetting Eden the whole time. We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it, killing off Sylar would be too much of a loss for the story line which sucks since Eden was SUCH a BABE.

Whenever HRG was in there the "security" to disarm Sylar was on. He said that to Sylar directly. The reason Sylar could take Eden is that she needed the "security" off in order to use her powers.As for you 2nd part.

We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it

Pretty obvious to all that watched the show that Eden was taken out. Might want to lay off the before you sit down to watch next time.

 

[bigjay]

I wonder if the dream power Peter seems to have is from Simone's father. Maybe he had that power and because Peter has spent so much time in close physical proximity to him he now has it permanantly. It would explain why he's still having the dreams even though now there doesn't seem to be a common person he's been in contact with when he's had them.

 

[Buckychudd]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

HRG also said that Sylar was special because he had more than one power, and he was the only one they found that displayed multiple power. That would mean either the Haitian does not have the negating power (leaving him with the single "hollowing" power), or that the Haitian’s negating power is an offshoot of the hollowing power.

 

[Alias]

So Sylar knew HRG didn't have any powers otherwise he would have busted out long ago, he was targetting Eden the whole time. We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it, killing off Sylar would be too much of a loss for the story line which sucks since Eden was SUCH a BABE.

Whenever HRG was in there the "security" to disarm Sylar was on. He said that to Sylar directly. The reason Sylar could take Eden is that she needed the "security" off in order to use her powers.

As for you 2nd part.

We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it

Pretty obvious to all that watched the show that Eden was taken out. Might want to lay off the before you sit down to watch next time.

Sylar said you know that cannot hurt me, you saw the gun point towards Eden's head, you saw it go off. That is all I saw, sure it LOOKS like she died, but there was no proof, Sylar was not seen after the fact (unless he was in some preview that I missed).

 

[bigbottom]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

Wasn't it just Eden and the Haitian who took down Sylar?

 

[Buckychudd]

So Sylar knew HRG didn't have any powers otherwise he would have busted out long ago, he was targetting Eden the whole time. We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it, killing off Sylar would be too much of a loss for the story line which sucks since Eden was SUCH a BABE.

Whenever HRG was in there the "security" to disarm Sylar was on. He said that to Sylar directly. The reason Sylar could take Eden is that she needed the "security" off in order to use her powers.

As for you 2nd part.

We don't know for sure if she is the one that died but I guess you have to assume it

Pretty obvious to all that watched the show that Eden was taken out. Might want to lay off the before you sit down to watch next time.

Sylar said you know that cannot hurt me, you saw the gun point towards Eden's head, you saw it go off. That is all I saw, sure it LOOKS like she died, but there was no proof, Sylar was not seen after the fact (unless he was in some preview that I missed).

In the graphic novel on the Heroes website HRG goes to Eden's dad to tell him she's dead.

 

[Buckychudd]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

Wasn't it just Eden and the Haitian who took down Sylar?

Yes, but he never had the chance to use his powers. Eden suggested that he didn't want to hurt her, then the Haitian took him down from behind.

 

[s_ezy]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.HRG also said that Sylar was special because he had more than one power, and he was the only one they found that displayed multiple power. That would mean either the Haitian does not have the negating power (leaving him with the single "hollowing" power), or that the Haitian’s negating power is an offshoot of the hollowing power.

HRG was not in the Bar where Matt's power was negatedin Ted's story he mentioned seeing a Hatian student, not a guy with rimmed glassesThe Hatian was in the room with HRG when Eden was using her persuasion power in the 6 months ago episode.Nathan Flew right in front of both the Hatian and HRG

 

[PaceSetter]

Mohinder does have a special power with his dreams as weak of a power as that may seem.

The dreams were the power of the little boy with the soccer ball, not Mohinder. There is no indication as of yet that Mohinder has any special abilities. Personally, I think he's a better character without powers.

 

[Gamblor]

Can we finally put to bed the issue about Nikki/Jessica and the tattoo? The tattoo appears when Jessica takes over.

Did anyone notice Jessica's tatoo is the same as the Hatian's necklace.

That symbol is all over the show. Computer screens, text books, phone booths, hiro's future sword etc...

 

[Buckychudd]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.HRG also said that Sylar was special because he had more than one power, and he was the only one they found that displayed multiple power. That would mean either the Haitian does not have the negating power (leaving him with the single "hollowing" power), or that the Haitian’s negating power is an offshoot of the hollowing power.

HRG was not in the Bar where Matt's power was negatedin Ted's story he mentioned seeing a Hatian student, not a guy with rimmed glassesThe Hatian was in the room with HRG when Eden was using her persuasion power in the 6 months ago episode.Nathan Flew right in front of both the Hatian and HRG

HRG may have been nearby when Matt & Ted's powers were negated, just not spotted/noticed.The Haitian was not in the cell area with Sylar (although he may have been close by).The Haitian was not in the interrogation room with HRG/Claire and Matt (although he was close by).Granted the evidence is inconclusive, I just have a suspicion that HRG has the negation power.

 

[shadyridr]

Perhaps Mohinder is responsible for the bomb that goes off in NYC

 

[shadyridr]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

HRG also said that Sylar was special because he had more than one power, and he was the only one they found that displayed multiple power. That would mean either the Haitian does not have the negating power (leaving him with the single "hollowing" power), or that the Haitian’s negating power is an offshoot of the hollowing power.

HRG was not in the Bar where Matt's power was negatedin Ted's story he mentioned seeing a Hatian student, not a guy with rimmed glasses

The Hatian was in the room with HRG when Eden was using her persuasion power in the 6 months ago episode.

Nathan Flew right in front of both the Hatian and HRG

HRG may have been nearby when Matt & Ted's powers were negated, just not spotted/noticed.The Haitian was not in the cell area with Sylar (although he may have been close by).

The Haitian was not in the interrogation room with HRG/Claire and Matt (although he was close by).

Granted the evidence is inconclusive, I just have a suspicion that HRG has the negation power.

According to a Q&A with the writers on comicresources.com:When Mr. Bennet was interviewing Eden with the Haitian after he captured her, was it the Haitian's powers that blocked her abilities? Or does Mr. Bennet have some secret abilities of his own?

Haitian. Same as he did with Matt in Episode 4. And we know what you’re going to say… “But, Matt heard HRG think the name, Claire, in episode 4.” And you’re right. Matt broke through the Haitian’s defenses and heard a word. The Haitian isn’t perfect. Geez. Give the man a break.

 

[Gamblor]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.HRG also said that Sylar was special because he had more than one power, and he was the only one they found that displayed multiple power. That would mean either the Haitian does not have the negating power (leaving him with the single "hollowing" power), or that the Haitian's negating power is an offshoot of the hollowing power.

HRG was not in the Bar where Matt's power was negatedin Ted's story he mentioned seeing a Hatian student, not a guy with rimmed glassesThe Hatian was in the room with HRG when Eden was using her persuasion power in the 6 months ago episode.Nathan Flew right in front of both the Hatian and HRG

The Haitian was not in the cell area with Sylar (although he may have been close by).

HRG said the security equipment negated Sylars powers.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

Wasn't it just Eden and the Haitian who took down Sylar?

Yes, but he never had the chance to use his powers. Eden suggested that he didn't want to hurt her, then the Haitian took him down from behind.

Wait a second. I think I am on to something...1. Eden used her powers of suggesting while WITH the Haitian. This would suggest that if the Haitian cancels out powers, that he has control over this power and can turn it on or off, to allow Eden to use her power of suggestion.BUT...2. When the cop was staking out the Haitian and HRG, they didn't know he was there, but when the cop tried to read their minds, he got the static that came from his power being blocked, except for one word (Sylar).So if the Haitian has the power, but he didn't know that the cop was nearby, why did he have his power 'turned on' ? This would lead me to believe he has it on all the time, which wouldn't appear to be the case in point #1 above.SO...3. HRG must have the power...

 

[Buckychudd]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

HRG also said that Sylar was special because he had more than one power, and he was the only one they found that displayed multiple power. That would mean either the Haitian does not have the negating power (leaving him with the single "hollowing" power), or that the Haitian’s negating power is an offshoot of the hollowing power.

HRG was not in the Bar where Matt's power was negatedin Ted's story he mentioned seeing a Hatian student, not a guy with rimmed glasses

The Hatian was in the room with HRG when Eden was using her persuasion power in the 6 months ago episode.

Nathan Flew right in front of both the Hatian and HRG

HRG may have been nearby when Matt & Ted's powers were negated, just not spotted/noticed.The Haitian was not in the cell area with Sylar (although he may have been close by).

The Haitian was not in the interrogation room with HRG/Claire and Matt (although he was close by).

Granted the evidence is inconclusive, I just have a suspicion that HRG has the negation power.

According to a Q&A with the writers on comicresources.com:When Mr. Bennet was interviewing Eden with the Haitian after he captured her, was it the Haitian's powers that blocked her abilities? Or does Mr. Bennet have some secret abilities of his own?

Haitian. Same as he did with Matt in Episode 4. And we know what you’re going to say… “But, Matt heard HRG think the name, Claire, in episode 4.” And you’re right. Matt broke through the Haitian’s defenses and heard a word. The Haitian isn’t perfect. Geez. Give the man a break.

 

[Gamblor]

I'm getting more and more convinced that HRG has the negating power and not the Haitian. They're trying too hard to convince us it's the Haitian without giving any definitive proof.

Wasn't it just Eden and the Haitian who took down Sylar?

Yes, but he never had the chance to use his powers. Eden suggested that he didn't want to hurt her, then the Haitian took him down from behind.

Wait a second. I think I am on to something...1. Eden used her powers of suggesting while WITH the Haitian. This would suggest that if the Haitian cancels out powers, that he has control over this power and can turn it on or off, to allow Eden to use her power of suggestion.BUT...2. When the cop was staking out the Haitian and HRG, they didn't know he was there, but when the cop tried to read their minds, he got the static that came from his power being blocked, except for one word (Sylar).So if the Haitian has the power, but he didn't know that the cop was nearby, why did he have his power 'turned on' ? This would lead me to believe he has it on all the time, which wouldn't appear to be the case in point #1 above.SO...3. HRG must have the power...

If you ignore the facts this makes perfect sense.