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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (1 Viewer)

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Mr. Ham said:
Let's say Trump dropped out this weekend and Pence took top of the ticket.... I think he jumps to an immediate lead.  Hillary should be careful what she wishes for.
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That would be interesting to see even if it wasn't Pence but just one of the other clowns from primaries jumped back in where they would stand. 

 
squistion said:
Not going to happen, so don't get your hopes up.
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Republican Party knows it's going to lose and now hasn't to worry about bigger picture and it's long term positioning with women.  There will be definitive action and a coup to replace him.  

 
David Dodds said:
Reading this does not bother anyone?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/press-release

She brokered a deal involving 20% of our Uranium for profit through her Clinton Foundation and no one cares?  Screw the lesser of two evils argument.  She deserves to crash and burn soon.  
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If your accusation is true it would bother me a great deal. But I find myself very skeptical of the source, and in particular his interpretation of those emails which he has illegally leaked.

 
timschochet said:
If your accusation is true it would bother me a great deal. But I find myself very skeptical of the source, and in particular his interpretation of those emails which he has illegally leaked.
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Tim.  Come on.  And what does "it would bother me a great deal" mean.  Of course it's true and we have no choice in light of her corruption.  

 
David Dodds said:
Reading this does not bother anyone?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/press-release

She brokered a deal involving 20% of our Uranium for profit through her Clinton Foundation and no one cares?  Screw the lesser of two evils argument.  She deserves to crash and burn soon.  
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It bothers normal, logical thinking people.  However, we have some pretty hard-core HRC defenders in here that refuse to believe anything except the words that come out of her mouth alone.  Even video evidence of her brokering the deal herself wouldn't convince them.  They've set the bar at a conviction PLUS 3 years time served BEFORE any guilt can even be considered.

 
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Mr. Ham said:
Tim.  Come on.  And what does "it would bother me a great deal" mean.  Of course it's true and we have no choice in light of her corruption.  
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No we don't, and you're the last person to try to convince me that any accusation against Hillary is true. Maybe it was her body double?

 
David Dodds said:
Reading this does not bother anyone?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/press-release

She brokered a deal involving 20% of our Uranium for profit through her Clinton Foundation and no one cares?  Screw the lesser of two evils argument.  She deserves to crash and burn soon.  
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Show me a Secretary of State who would have blocked that deal and on what grounds.  :popcorn:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-inaccurately-suggests-clinton-got-pai/

 
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I totally get why people aren't voting for Trump.  That's easy to see.  What is mind-boggling is the level of stupidity people here will show to actually defend Clinton.  Is this the denial phase so you won't feel guilty about voting for that POS?

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
I totally get why people aren't voting for Trump.  That's easy to see.  What is mind-boggling is the level of stupidity people here will show to actually defend Clinton.  Is this the denial phase so you won't feel guilty about voting for that POS?
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This sums it up pretty well. 

 
cstu said:
Show me a Secretary of State who would have blocked that deal and on what grounds.  :popcorn:
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This is really the source of my skepticism. In addition, the State Department has long term employees, people who have worked as diplomats for decades under all types of administrations, who work on these deals. The assumption that the Secretary of State comes in and negotiates his or her own deals is really kind of silly.

 
No, most people in here rail on Hillary for a variety of reasons. Being resigned to a candidate like her isn't having anyone jumping up and down. But here's the reality. Trump says he can grab women by the ######. Sorry but it isn't just two terrible sides of the same coin.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
I totally get why people aren't voting for Trump.  That's easy to see.  What is mind-boggling is the level of stupidity people here will show to actually defend Clinton.  Is this the denial phase so you won't feel guilty about voting for that POS?
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I don't think I'm a stupid person. I defend Hillary because she is worth defending, and because I don't think she is guilty of any of the serious accusations you and others have thrown at her. I believe most or all of your charges are baseless, without real evidence, and are based on partisan dislike and nothing more.

 
timschochet said:
I don't think I'm a stupid person. I defend Hillary because she is worth defending, and because I don't think she is guilty of any of the serious accusations you and others have thrown at her. I believe most or all of your charges are baseless, without real evidence, and are based on partisan dislike and nothing more.
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:lmao:  

My charges?  Holy crap you're delusional.  Yeah, I'm the one with mounds and mounds of evidence of her corruption, lying, cheating, and criminal activities.  Partisan dislike?  I'm not one of the delusional right wingers man.  I'm voting Gary Johnson.  HTH.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:  

My charges?  Holy crap you're delusional.  Yeah, I'm the one with mounds and mounds of evidence of her corruption, lying, cheating, and criminal activities.  Partisan dislike?  I'm not one of the delusional right wingers man.  I'm voting Gary Johnson.  HTH.
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Criminal activities?

why don't they arrest her?

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:  

My charges?  Holy crap you're delusional.  Yeah, I'm the one with mounds and mounds of evidence of her corruption, lying, cheating, and criminal activities.  Partisan dislike?  I'm not one of the delusional right wingers man.  I'm voting Gary Johnson.  HTH.
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Leaving the responsibility of rebuking Trump to others in order to claim moral superiority isn't that impressive. Must be nice to say I told you so no matter what while others make sure that Trump doesn't happen for you. You don't think people want to say f Hillary but won't risk it?

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
No, most people in here rail on Hillary for a variety of reasons. Being resigned to a candidate like her isn't having anyone jumping up and down. But here's the reality. Trump says he can grab women by the ######. Sorry but it isn't just two terrible sides of the same coin.
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And this is where the delusion comes in.  You keep repeating this, not because it's true, but because you need an excuse to feel good about voting for a supreme POS.

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
Leaving the responsibility of rebuking Trump to others in order to claim moral superiority isn't that impressive. Must be nice to say I told you so no matter what while others make sure that Trump doesn't happen for you. You don't think people want to say f Hillary but won't risk it?
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I didn't say one word about not voting for Hillary.  I said it's embarrassing the level of defending her BS here.  But I get holding your nose and voting for that turd if you're 100% against a Trump presidency.  

 
MaxThreshold said:
And this is where the delusion comes in.  You keep repeating this, not because it's true, but because you need an excuse to feel good about voting for a supreme POS.
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And you like the comfort of claiming responsibility for neither. I have news for you. I actively voted against Hillary Clinton twice. I bet that's two more times than you voted against her. Barack in the primary in 2008, and Bernie this year. Name when you voted against her. 

 
NREC34 said:
Criminal activities?

why don't they arrest her?
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:lmao:

Because the guy that ran the investigations career is controlled by Hillary and he ordered evidence be destroyed.  But I'm sure you think everything was totally on the up and up and she did nothing wrong but make an honest mistake.

By the way, I used to work in the same environment as her so I'm pretty familiar with how NOT TO handle classified information.  For a normal person like one of us, claiming ignorance is going to get you fired at best and most likely prosecuted.  But she's special.

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
And you like the comfort of claiming responsibility for neither. I have news for you. I actively voted against Hillary Clinton twice. I bet that's two more times than you voted against her. Barack in the primary in 2008, and Bernie this year. Name when you voted against her. 
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Glad you asked.  I'll be doing it in about a month.

 
timschochet said:
Umm- OJ was arrested and charged with a crime. Hillary has never been charged with anything.
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It's the same standard your using for Hillary - no conviction then you refuse to believe anything else other than what comes out of her mouth.  You don't see the smoke, the history of shady deals and corruption or any of that BECAUSE "she wasn't convicted".  

IMO, It's a pretty low bar you HRC supporters have set to make yourself feel better about your vote.  Yet dollars to donuts you believe OJ killed Nicole Brown Simpson - even though he wasn't convicted of that.

 
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timschochet said:
Umm- OJ was arrested and charged with a crime. Hillary has never been charged with anything.
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His default position is always the Straw Man, "So because she is not sitting in jail you say she has never done anything wrong!" 

No Max. In almost 40 years, despite allegations of being a career criminal, Hillary has not been charged with any crime in any jurisdiction by any prosecutor - not even a misdemeanor. Try as you might you can never get around this.

 
MaxThreshold said:
It's the same standard your using for Hillary - no conviction then you refuse to believe anything else other than what comes out of her mouth.  You don't see the smoke, the history of shady deals and corruption or any of that BECAUSE "she wasn't convicted".  

IMO, It's a pretty low bar you HRC supporters have set to make yourself feel better about your vote.  Yet dollars to donuts you believe OJ killed Nicole Brown Simpson - even though he wasn't convicted of that.
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Why do you keep talking about a conviction? Forget a conviction, she's never been charged. 

If OJ had never been charged I wouldn't think he was a murderer. 

 
squistion said:
His default position is always the Straw Man, "So because she is not sitting in jail you say she has never done anything wrong!" 

No Max. In almost 40 years, despite allegations of being a career criminal, Hillary has not been charged with any crime in any jurisdiction by any prosecutor - not even a misdemeanor. Try as you might you can never get around this.
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And your post right here proves my point.  Glad you're able to set the bar so low that you're able to make it thru the day.

 
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MaxThreshold said:
And your post right here proves my point.  Glad you're able to set the bar so low that you're able to make it thru the day.
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Indeed by avoiding the point I made about your argument:

His default position is always the Straw Man, "So because she is not sitting in jail you say she has never done anything wrong!" 

No Max. In almost 40 years, despite allegations of being a career criminal, Hillary has not been charged with any crime in any jurisdiction by any prosecutor - not even a misdemeanor. Try as you might you can never get around this.

 
squistion said:
Indeed by avoiding the point I made about your argument:

His default position is always the Straw Man, "So because she is not sitting in jail you say she has never done anything wrong!" 

No Max. In almost 40 years, despite allegations of being a career criminal, Hillary has not been charged with any crime in any jurisdiction by any prosecutor - not even a misdemeanor. Try as you might you can never get around this.
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Big fail here.  Better luck next time.  Advanced Reading comprehension comes in 8th grade so another year and you'll be set.

 
timschochet said:
If your accusation is true it would bother me a great deal. But I find myself very skeptical of the source, and in particular his interpretation of those emails which he has illegally leaked.
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Tim just once look at the facts presented, analyze them and create a conclusion based on your own reason.

 
timschochet said:
Lost in the news about Trump is that, per MSNBC, Russian hackers have released notes from Hillary's speeches to Goldman Sachs. 

I have no idea what the details are, but the summary, per MSNBC, is that Hillary spoke in favor of open immigration and as free trade as possible. If that is true then I like her even more than before (though I recognize that others may not). 
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Maybe provide a link?

 
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