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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (3 Viewers)

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MattFancy said:
Yes he entitled to his opinion. But when he posts stuff like this, he has to realize it shows as a reflection of his business. And I'm entitled to not support it anymore. It's clear his priority isn't his paying customers anymore and that's fine. I'll look elsewhere from now on. 
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They'll miss your 27 bucks. Just the fact that you're still posting here shows what a good guy he is.  If it were me I'd drop the banhammer and PayPal you a refund with a note to do something specific with the money.

 
I was trying to point out that Dodds' inability to separate fact from insanity in this has nothing to do with his job, much like enjoying dinner with a crazy artist has nothing to do with Podesta's, but I guess lots of people really don't think that which probably explains this stupid election.

 
MattFancy said:
Yes he entitled to his opinion. But when he posts stuff like this, he has to realize it shows as a reflection of his business. And I'm entitled to not support it anymore. It's clear his priority isn't his paying customers anymore and that's fine. I'll look elsewhere from now on. 
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Back to the salt mines Dodds! 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Then it's the content you have a problem with. I might even have agreed with you in some FBG posts in TSP.

But don't punish people for their political views.
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First of all, most of us were kidding.  Mostly.

But even if not, it wouldn't be punishment, it would be capitalism.  Customers are free to spend or not spend their money for any reason they like. That includes politics  (although that's not really the issue here at all) or anything else.  

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
The Greens and Libertarians missed a big chance this term and EM got started too late unfortunately.
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Well, the good news is, I don't think we've hit rock bottom just yet.  Thought we might have with Clinton vs Trump, but based on the crazy out there, I still think there is room to dig.  So, if that's the case maybe the Greens and Libertarians can get it together for the next ####show in four years.

 
Autumn Wind said:
Haven't checked in much today, whatever happened with that new bombshell video Anonymous supposedly had?  :sleep:
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These are not the droids you're looking for.

On a unrelated note, KimDotcom says he has emails PROVING Clinton murdered Vince Foster and he will be releasing them tomorrow!!!!! This will DESTROY her campaign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
CBusAlex said:
These are not the droids you're looking for.

On a unrelated note, KimDotcom says he has emails PROVING Clinton murdered Vince Foster and he will be releasing them tomorrow!!!!! This will DESTROY her campaign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Smart.  Put them out on a Saturday during college football when they'll do the most damage.

 
TobiasFunke said:
First of all, most of us were kidding.  Mostly.

But even if not, it wouldn't be punishment, it would be capitalism.  Customers are free to spend or not spend their money for any reason they like. That includes politics  (although that's not really the issue here at all) or anything else.  
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Ok I'm gonna keep it light but seriously I need advice on Sammy Coates. TIA.

 
Henry Ford said:
I was trying to point out that Dodds' inability to separate fact from insanity in this has nothing to do with his job, much like enjoying dinner with a crazy artist has nothing to do with Podesta's, but I guess lots of people really don't think that which probably explains this stupid election.
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I don't think a business owner should put such views into the public without expecting it to adhere to the business itself.  He does not have the benefit of posting anonymously here and should be held to a higher standard.  My facebook, twitter, etc. is mostly void of political posts and certainly is not aggressive.  Dodds is posting crazy conspiracy theory stuff -- not just a political opinion -- to his company's public forum.  If an employee posted such things or racist things etc on their company's FB, they could be terminated. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I don't think a business owner should put such views into the public without expecting it to adhere to the business itself.  He does not have the benefit of posting anonymously here and should be held to a higher standard.  My facebook, twitter, etc. is mostly void of political posts and certainly is not aggressive.  Dodds is posting crazy conspiracy theory stuff -- not just a political opinion -- to his company's public forum.  If an employee posted such things or racist things etc on their company's FB, they could be terminated. 
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There's a big difference between racist things and crazy political views.

One might say it's similar to the difference between performance art and snuff films.

 
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Card Trader said:
So "his priority isn't his paying customers" because he doesn't agree with you?  It's a special special world you live in
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No, it's because he didn't address any issues customers were having. I'd say the same thing if he was posting in the Trump thread. Go read the MyFBGs threads in the Shark Pool to get an idea of how I'm not the only one that feels this way. 

 
Look, people are crazy.  They're weird.  They're into weird stuff.  That's why all this "IS THIS THE PERSON YOU WANT RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY????" stuff is so annoying.  I would guess that literally every person you know, I know, or who has been elected to any office has some thing that people would be weirded out by.  

Maybe Hillary's a dominatrix lesbian, maybe she likes to dress up as a witch and re-enact the witch scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail, maybe she likes to eat buttered bread with the butter side down.  Maybe Trump likes to have sex while looking at an oil painting of himself, or eats steak three meals a day, or doesn't wear pants while his limo driver is driving him around.  I seriously don't care about these things and they have nothing to do with the job.  This is why private emails should stay private.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I don't think a business owner should put such views into the public without expecting it to adhere to the business itself.  He does not have the benefit of posting anonymously here and should be held to a higher standard.  My facebook, twitter, etc. is mostly void of political posts and certainly is not aggressive.  Dodds is posting crazy conspiracy theory stuff -- not just a political opinion -- to his company's public forum.  If an employee posted such things or racist things etc on their company's FB, they could be terminated. 
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Ah the old if you aren't a Clinton supporter you're a racist shtick.  Good stuff

 
Henry Ford said:
There's a big difference between racist things and crazy political views.

One might say it's similar to the difference between performance art and snuff films.
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Political views are one thing, these infowars, 4chan, breibart, and worse type conspiracy theories are something else entirely.  Free to express what you want, but I admittedly judge character (rightly or wrongly) based on buying into that type of stuff. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Political views are one thing, these infowars, 4chan, breibart, and worse type conspiracy theories are something else entirely.  Free to express what you want, but I admittedly judge character (rightly or wrongly) based on buying into that type of stuff. 
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We all do, but by the same token I don't care about that section of a person's character with respect to fantasy football.  I just don't.  He's the crazy old scout who still writes everything in pencil while watching the games.  If he's right about players, he can jerk off into a sock with a belt around his neck when he gets back to the hotel room for all I care, just as long as he keeps it loose enough to survive and get me more fantasy football info.

 
Henry Ford said:
Look, people are crazy.  They're weird.  They're into weird stuff.  That's why all this "IS THIS THE PERSON YOU WANT RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY????" stuff is so annoying.  I would guess that literally every person you know, I know, or who has been elected to any office has some thing that people would be weirded out by.  

Maybe Hillary's a dominatrix lesbian, maybe she likes to dress up as a witch and re-enact the witch scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail, maybe she likes to eat buttered bread with the butter side down.  Maybe Trump likes to have sex while looking at an oil painting of himself, or eats steak three meals a day, or doesn't wear pants while his limo driver is driving him around.  I seriously don't care about these things and they have nothing to do with the job.  This is why private emails should stay private.
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I don't disagree.

 
MattFancy said:
No, it's because he didn't address any issues customers were having. I'd say the same thing if he was posting in the Trump thread. Go read the MyFBGs threads in the Shark Pool to get an idea of how I'm not the only one that feels this way. 
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Then address your concerns in that thread because it's coming across like you don't agree with what he's posting in this thread so you're bringing up the site issues. 

It looks petty. 

 
Henry Ford said:
Look, people are crazy.  They're weird.  They're into weird stuff.  That's why all this "IS THIS THE PERSON YOU WANT RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY????" stuff is so annoying.  I would guess that literally every person you know, I know, or who has been elected to any office has some thing that people would be weirded out by.  

Maybe Hillary's a dominatrix lesbian, maybe she likes to dress up as a witch and re-enact the witch scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail, maybe she likes to eat buttered bread with the butter side down.  Maybe Trump likes to have sex while looking at an oil painting of himself, or eats steak three meals a day, or doesn't wear pants while his limo driver is driving him around.  I seriously don't care about these things and they have nothing to do with the job.  This is why private emails should stay private.




 
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I think this is fair, but you see how the world reacts if anyone just says they are an Atheist.  Performance Art or not, this has been trending on Twitter at #1 all morning and 95% of the posts are anti-Hillary

 
Henry Ford said:
We all do, but by the same token I don't care about that section of a person's character with respect to fantasy football.  I just don't.  He's the crazy old scout who still writes everything in pencil while watching the games.  If he's right about players, he can jerk off into a sock with a belt around his neck when he gets back to the hotel room for all I care, just as long as he keeps it loose enough to survive and get me more fantasy football info.
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I retired from fantasy anyway.

 
David Dodds said:
I think this is fair, but you see how the world reacts if anyone just says they are an Atheist.  Performance Art or not, this has been trending on Twitter at #1 all morning and 95% of the posts are anti-Hillary
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They're by you and people like you.  Seriously, you're the one who brought it into this thread and repeatedly posted about it. You're the one expressing concern.  You're welcome to that opinion, but I don't care about it at all, and it isn't costing her votes.

 
MattFancy said:
That's like my opinion man. Considering he has spent more time in here with crazy theories and less time addressing issues subscribers have had, seems pretty easy. 
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Joe addresses subscriber issues and usually pretty quickly.

Don't let your political differences of opinion start threatening the place that allows you to come here and act the way you do in the first place.  If you want to read opinions that only you agree with, there are plenty of left wing crazy type forums on the internet. 

 
David Dodds said:
I think this is fair, but you see how the world reacts if anyone just says they are an Atheist.  Performance Art or not, this has been trending on Twitter at #1 all morning and 95% of the posts are anti-Hillary
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Also, I'm acutely aware of how the world reacts when I say I'm an atheist.  I say it regularly and I live in rural Louisiana.  

 
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MattFancy said:
No, it's because he didn't address any issues customers were having. I'd say the same thing if he was posting in the Trump thread. Go read the MyFBGs threads in the Shark Pool to get an idea of how I'm not the only one that feels this way. 
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This is why we can't have nice things.

The owner of the FF site that you subscribe to, or at least use for the free forums, disagrees with you on your political views/specific debate points. Rather than think how nice it is that someone running the brand is interacting with the members of the forum and opening/continuing debate, you take it way past political discussion and attack his brand. What seriously ever happened to simple, open discourse between differing viewpoints? No need to make it personal and steer the car so to speak directly at the guy's brand because he's on the other side of the argument.

 
I get the sense that she has blown this - the leaks and the relentless smell of corruption are taking it's toll. Also I think Trump has hit upon the issue of constant investigations and it resonates with those that are on the fence or that were considering abandoning him. He indiscretions have burned out as issues as these leaks take center stage.

If you take Nate Silvers work and flip NH, Colorado and Nevada - all doable by the way. Trump eeks over the finish line. He's gaining momentum in the polls due to his strategy and I think he has more enthusiasm among supporters. She's a hot mess right now and they are running on fumes.As a lifelong Democrat, I hope it isn't true - but it sure smells that way. She's a loser and won't be getting my vote.

 
Don't a lot of the people who are making an issue of this spirit cooking stuff eat a wafer every Sunday morning and pretend it's the body of a guy who died 2000+ years ago?  Those wafers aren't raw.

 
ffldrew said:
I get the sense that she has blown this - the leaks and the relentless smell of corruption are taking it's toll. Also I think Trump has hit upon the issue of constant investigations and it resonates with those that are on the fence or that were considering abandoning him. He indiscretions have burned out as issues as these leaks take center stage.

If you take Nate Silvers work and flip NH, Colorado and Nevada - all doable by the way. Trump eeks over the finish line. He's gaining momentum in the polls due to his strategy and I think he has more enthusiasm among supporters. She's a hot mess right now and they are running on fumes.As a lifelong Democrat, I hope it isn't true - but it sure smells that way. She's a loser and won't be getting my vote.
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If you hope it isn't true, you should vote for her, given that you're in Colorado.

 
Willie Neslon said:
Don't a lot of the people who are making an issue of this spirit cooking stuff eat a wafer every Sunday morning and pretend it's the body of a guy who died 2000+ years ago?  Those wafers aren't raw.
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Yeah, but it's not the guy's body until after it's cooked - right before it goes on the tongue.  

 
Willie Neslon said:
Don't a lot of the people who are making an issue of this spirit cooking stuff eat a wafer every Sunday morning and pretend it's the body of a guy who died 2000+ years ago?  Those wafers aren't raw.
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I eat the wafer, but I don't drink the wine...thats just taking it a step too far...

 
This is definitely a big story.  It has been trending for a while.  That's unusual, even #cubswin was off faster than this.  

 
ffldrew said:
I get the sense that she has blown this - the leaks and the relentless smell of corruption are taking it's toll. Also I think Trump has hit upon the issue of constant investigations and it resonates with those that are on the fence or that were considering abandoning him. He indiscretions have burned out as issues as these leaks take center stage.

If you take Nate Silvers work and flip NH, Colorado and Nevada - all doable by the way. Trump eeks over the finish line. He's gaining momentum in the polls due to his strategy and I think he has more enthusiasm among supporters. She's a hot mess right now and they are running on fumes.As a lifelong Democrat, I hope it isn't true - but it sure smells that way. She's a loser and won't be getting my vote.
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In what tracking polls?  Rasmussen has swung from +3 Trump yesterday to even today.  ABC is back to her +3 with two good polling days for her in the last 2.  IBD is still flat.  Hell even that dopey USC poll is down a point for him?  

From everything it looks like his momentum has stopped

 
ffldrew said:
As a lifelong Democrat, I hope it isn't true - but it sure smells that way. She's a loser and won't be getting my vote.
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Do you mind saying who you voted for in 2008 & 2012? I'm just curious, not being personal or attacking. The Obama voter / non-Clinton voter margin is what could cost her this election.

 
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