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Like I said I wonder if such transcripts exist - I doubt it.
Doesn't matter. Who was Romney speaking to when he made his 47% comment? I can't remember exactly, but besides speaking to a private friendly audience, it was what he said that killed him, not who specifically he said it too.
Although -- remember she's dirty but she's been doing this awhile.
When she's running against Trump, do you think there is anything he can release from a speech that will make things worse for him? He'll release whatever he's ever said.
Well, hold on, he might have said something nice about Rosie O'Donnell, that could destroy him.
She's done the political calculus. Whatever hit she takes from not releasing her transcripts is less than she'd take by releasing them. We're never seeing them. I'd bet money if Trump ever released transcripts from a speech he's given to private donors, Hillary's would suddenly and mysteriously disappear.
This election is horrible.
It really hasn't been ugly on the democrats side Tim. This is tame and there is very little that has been said that will be able to be used by Repubs in the fall.
I think this is probably exactly whats going on. It will be a narrative changing story when the email trail gets hot
Like how do we pragmatically make the country better? Here's a start:
I agree with a lot of this. But I don't want to make heroin legal. Too addictive, too dangerous.
Does your insistence on gravely mischaracterizing this indicate ignorance or self deceit? Because nobody is focused on that. You're the problem Tim, you and people like you refuse to see how bad the current trend in world economies are for 99% of the people on this planet, and 100% of everything else on this planet. And rest assured it is bad. Making adjustments to assure that everyone benefits more equally from prosperity is neither anti-business nor anti-trade - it's the opposite in fact.
I guess you're right. But this is not the only forum in which the Sanders people are being REALLY ugly about Hillary Clinton. Just read the comments section after any article about either of them; it makes the vitriol in here seem tame.
I feel that if the other drugs were legal and pure then there wouldn't be much demand for heroin, so I could be persuaded to keep it illegal.
Neither ignorance nor self-deceit, but accuracy. Let me be very clear: I am for the free trade agreements we have passed, like NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT. I am for the TPP. I think that overall these are necessary and good for us. I do not believe that big business is necessarily the enemy of the middle class. On these significant issues, I am opposed to Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, the contrast between Bernie and his FFA supporters is stark.
No doubt, she's run the numbers, but...I think her math is wrong. This issue is not going away. In fact, when Trump becomes the nominee, that's when this becomes a full-blown issue. He'll offer up his transcripts and the media will collectively look to Hillary and say, "So, Mr. Trump has agreed to release his transcripts, when will you make yours available." And, now we have Hillary who's already compromised by a narrative that she's untrustworthy refusing not just to release the transcripts, but is reneging on a promise she made several times on the campaign trail. It's bad news for her, as the media will take this up as a cornerstone campaign issue.
Online commentary always attracts trolls. Topics that we avoid discussing in person, except with close friends, are an open game on the Internet. Religion and politics, with their subforums abortion, taxes, and gun control, are suddenly fair game, where you can confront your opponents and argue with them. It's virtual crack for pinheads.
You know, if everyone is saying bad things about someone it just might actually be the fault of the one being criticized.
Jon, does this sound like a rational comment? It doesn't to me. It sounds like a rabid ####wad .
Dude, just running through the thread, and it looks like you and Ham are side by side. Think about it.
The lying and corrupt part were factual. The evil and witch part were more subjective and probably over the top. I am pretty sure if we threw Hillary in the water with a stone around her waist, she would sink.
years of practice. really see so much of it when people talk politics, just filter it out,
But you shouldn't. It's so detrimental. I'm not even a Hillary fan, but I cringe when I see the ridiculous comments aimed at her. Same with the rest of the candidates.
Nazi...homophobe...hate the poor...show me a Republican and I will show you left-wingers throwing these insults at them...it is 101 in their playbook...paint them as a right-wing extremists regardless of their policies...McCain and Romney who are as middle-of-the-road as there is in current-day politics got this directed at them...Paul Ryan was accused of pushing old people off a cliff...and please don't tell me Big Hill is getting it worse than Sara Palin did because she's not...both sides get dirty and if you don't think so you're nothing more than a political homer...
I have corrected, challenged, and dismissed points raised by Saints, Ham, and many others in this thread. If it appears that Ham and I are side by side, maybe you're taking my tongue-in-cheek comments as seriously as Ham's comments.
What would you call someone who knowingly looks at the family members standing over their dead loved ones coffins and lies to their face about how it happened? You want to ignore the facts that show this is exactly what happened then yeah, you probably think "evil witch" is harsh. You want to take the blinders off and take a look, then it's pretty spot on, perhaps not harsh enough.
And yet, oddly, you still think 90+% of Bernie supporters will support her in November.
Weren't you supposedly a republican when you first started posting? And actually still may have been 4 years ago?
Weren't you at the front of the line in 2008 equating Hillary to villainous cartoon characters?
You're taking this out of context. The lying, evil witch part was quoted. It did not originate with me.
Not everyone anti-corruption (ergo Hillary) is pro Bernie. The Party forced her as a choice, and she comes with the Indiana Jones warehouse full of baggage. The has to be someone named "Bush" or "Clinton" caused a whole lot of fatigue amongst those who don't appreciate big money and parties beholden to it to choose our candidates for us in a mock election.
Let's make no mistake about it... Trump is far worse. Although Hillary has proven she will serve her own interests before the nation's, often those issues overlap with those of the Democrat Party--which needs to at least pretend to do some public good. She'll more or less maintain a broken status quo (but probably make it a bit worse while leaving middle class victims in her wake).
