Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (12 Viewers)

[Boston]

Maybe Bill took one for the team and gave Loretta the Denise Rich treatment...

 

[cobalt_27]

The whole thing is so silly. Bill Clinton is the former Presidrnt of the United States. His wife is the presumptive Democratic nominee. There's no evidence whatsoever that she is suspected of any kind of criminal behavior. And he can't meet with the current Attorney General? 

Theres no impropriety here. None. 

Geezus Tim.  You should recuse yourself from all investigation discussion.  You are so out of your league.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Are you under the impression that they would actually need to meet face to face to conspire?

I don't think it's a conspiracy, it's politics. And politics is supposed to have no role in this.

But aside from that their not needing to meet was a given, which only highlights the fact that Bill Clinton sought this meeting in the first place.

 

[jon_mx]

 There's no evidence whatsoever that she is suspected of any kind of criminal behavior. 

Easily in the top 10 of the most stupid FFA quotes of all time.  I suppose you will next argue that water is not wet? 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The whole thing is so silly. Bill Clinton is the former Presidrnt of the United States. His wife is the presumptive Democratic nominee. There's no evidence whatsoever that she is suspected of any kind of criminal behavior. And he can't meet with the current Attorney General? 

Theres no impropriety here. None. 

And he was disbarred for improperly trying to influence legal proceedings with perjury.

 

[cobalt_27]

Easily in the top 10 of the most stupid FFA quotes of all time.  I suppose you will next argue that water is not wet? 

It does support his prior claim that he doesn't know what's going on with the criminal investigation.

 

[dparker713]

Ok now do this analysis where one of the two is a disbarred attorney who was caught at perjury and accused of suborning perjury.

Shockingly, prosecutors often meet with people with prior convictions.

 

[cstu]

Extremely lucky for Hillary that Bill set up this meeting, she was this close to being indicted.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Shockingly, prosecutors often meet with people with prior convictions.

Yes and then say they just talked about grandkids.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Extremely lucky for Hillary that Bill set up this meeting, she was this close to being indicted.

Bill's not a waster of time.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

There's no evidence whatsoever that she is suspected of any kind of criminal behavior.

Actual thing said by man living in a cave.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Maybe Bill took one for the team and gave Loretta the Denise Rich treatment...

I doubt Bubba left the charm at home.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

[SIZE=24pt]New analysis shows 160 emails missing from Clinton’s disclosure to State[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12pt]But disclosures over the past several weeks have revealed dozens of emails related to Clinton’s official duties that crossed her private server and were not included in the 55,000 pages of correspondence she turned over to the State Department when the agency sought her emails in 2014.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]At least 160 such emails have come to light so far, many of them through public-records lawsuits brought by the conservative group Judicial Watch.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12pt]In a report issued last month about Clinton’s email practices, the State Department inspector general’s office formally concluded that Clinton’s production of emails had been “incomplete.” Among the gaps, the IG found, were all emails Clinton sent and received between Jan. 21, 2009, when she took office, and March 17, 2009. The IG said emails were also missing that Clinton sent from the start of her term until April 12, 2009.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Among those the IG said she had not turned over were 19 emails exchanged with Gen. David H. Petraeus in January and February 2009. Approximately 15 additional emails that Clinton exchanged with informal adviser Sidney Blumenthal were turned over by Blumenthal to the House committee investigating the 2012 attacks on U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, but did not appear among the emails she had turned over. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]An additional 127 have emerged through Judicial Watch litigation, according to a new analysis by the group.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12pt]A steady stream of internal State Department documents released in response to public records requests promises new revelations until Election Day about Clinton’s leadership of the department.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]One series of documents requested by Citizens United and then published by ABC News and other news organizations appears to show that Clinton’s top staff intervened to appoint a Democratic donor to a sensitive arms control advisory panel even though the donor, a Chicago securities trader, had no experience in the field.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]The emails show that some State Department staffers were initially puzzled when they received questions regarding the appointment of Rajiv K. Fernando to the International Security Advisory Board in 2011. “The true answer,” one official wrote at the time, explaining the inclusion of Fernando on a list of candidates, is that Clinton’s chief of staff Cheryl Mills “added him.”[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Fernando had also been a major donor to the Clinton Foundation, the global charity started by former president Bill Clinton. He resigned the board position shortly after ABC News inquired about the appointment in 2011.[/SIZE]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/disclosures-of-new-clinton-emails-raise-questions-about-her-transparency/2016/06/28/5e78b0bc-3d3c-11e6-a66f-aa6c1883b6b1_story.html?postshare=2951467209999432&tid=ss_tw

- WaPo

- Gosh, if only there was some "conspiratorial" motive that the 's of the world could dream up for Bill to meet with Lynch about at this particular moment.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Regardless of Lynch's downplaying of the conversation, CBS News Justice reporter Paul Reid called it "shocking, absolutely shocking."

"The most high-profile national security investigation under the attorney general is the investigation into whether or not classified information was mishandled in connection with Hillary Clinton's server," Reid told CBSN. "Now, President Clinton and his foundation are also tangentially involved in that investigation, so the appearance of impropriety is just stunning."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-meet-on-tarmac-in-phoenix/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=26061413

 

[cobalt_27]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-meet-on-tarmac-in-phoenix/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=26061413

She has to recuse herself.  There's no other option.

 

[The Kerminator]

The whole thing is so silly. Bill Clinton is the former Presidrnt of the United States. His wife is the presumptive Democratic nominee. There's no evidence whatsoever that she is suspected of any kind of criminal behavior. And he can't meet with the current Attorney General? 

Theres no impropriety here. None. 

You have got to be fishing Tim!!! Pull your head out of the sand or whatever Clinton orifice it is up.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Well today Huma Abedin said she did nothing to preserve official records on her clintonemail account.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Huma Abedin: "I always tried to do the right thing and tried to be on my state.gov blackberry."

- Apparently Abedin was pretty cooperative today.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

[SIZE=14.5pt]Q Okay. And what about Secretary Clinton;[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]did she have any discussions with anybody at the[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]State Department -- and this is again in the early[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]2008, two thousand -- late 2008, early 2009 time[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]frame -- about her use of her Clinton e-mail account[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]for State Department business?[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]MS. WOLVERTON: Objection.[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]MR. BRILLE: Objection.[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]MS. WOLVERTON: Lack of foundation, lack[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]of personal knowledge.[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]MR. BRILLE: Same.[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]Q If you know.[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]A I -- I -- I don't know. I -- I don't[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=14.5pt]know.[/SIZE]

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/JW-v-State-Abedin-Deposition-01363.pdf

This is what I think happens next:

- JW asks the federal court to depose Hillary Clinton based on this response, the pleading of the 5th by Pags and the constant foot stomping in the Mills and other depositions.

- And the DOJ intervenes and asks that that not be allowed based on bobblblolawbargarbarga reason.

[SIZE=16pt][/SIZE]

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Sorry, but I don't believe that Obama and his team subscribe to "trickle down economics".

Have you read "The ‘Anti-Business’ President Who’s Been Good for Business"  Bloomberg interview?  

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I'm already sorry I'm asking this, so please make the tinfoil entertaining.  TIA

If Bill Clinton wanted to have some sort of illicit conversation with Lynch why not just call?  Why would he meet with her somewhere in public where people are going to see it?

My take is that Bill wanted to see Lynch in person and study how she interacted with him.  Perhaps he felt there was plenty to learn from her body language or eye contact.  There is a lot that can be said by two intelligent people that know each other without coming right out and discussing it.  I doubt Bill directly broached the FBI investigation.

 

[jon_mx]

yeah, and usually when the Clintons make one of those offers you can't refuse, the telephone just is not as effective.  

 

[MaxThreshold]

anyone post the Quinnipiac poll?

June 29, 2016 - Hate Winning, As Clinton-Trump Race Too Close To Call, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Neither Candidate Would Be Good President, Voters Say

Democrat Hillary Clinton has 42 percent to Republican Donald Trump's 40 percent - too close to call - as American voters say neither candidate would be a good president and that the campaign has increased hatred and prejudice in the nation, according to a Quinnipiac University National poll released today. 

 

[Slapdash]

anyone post the Quinnipiac poll?

I'm hopeful that either will just be a 4 year president. 

 

[cobalt_27]

yeah, and usually when the Clintons make one of those offers you can't refuse, the telephone just is not as effective.  

Harder for the FBI to monitor, too.

 

[Guest]

I'm already sorry I'm asking this, so please make the tinfoil entertaining.  TIA

If Bill Clinton wanted to have some sort of illicit conversation with Lynch why not just call?  Why would he meet with her somewhere in public where people are going to see it?

Only way to make sure communication is not preserved. 

 

[cobalt_27]

Bad day for Hillary.  Now it looks like she conducted secret Clinton Foundation meetings with donors and expunged them from the official calendar.  

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437312/hillary-clinton-emails-secret-meetings-clinton-foundation-donors

 

[Guest]

My take is that Bill wanted to see Lynch in person and study how she interacted with him.  Perhaps he felt there was plenty to learn from her body language or eye contact.  There is a lot that can be said by two intelligent people that know each other without coming right out and discussing it.  I doubt Bill directly broached the FBI investigation.

Bull####. It was the one forum where he could discuss it openly.  To Saint's earlier point... He likely felt he needed to--so there's hope. 

 

[timschochet]

Lol at recuse. 

President Obama is campaigning with Hillary next week. THAT'S the reality. 

There's not going to be any indictment. There's not going to be any recommendation for an indictment. There isn't any criminal investigation. Time to give up this dream guys. It's nonsense. 

 

[cobalt_27]

Lol at recuse. 

President Obama is campaigning with Hillary next week. THAT'S the reality. 

There's not going to be any indictment. There's not going to be any recommendation for an indictment. There isn't any criminal investigation. Time to give up this dream guys. It's nonsense. 

Well, when you decide to understand what's being investigated, we might invite you to back to your own thread and contribute again.  Until then, you don't have a leg to stand on or an opinion worth squadoosh.

 

[Guest]

Lol at recuse. 

President Obama is campaigning with Hillary next week. THAT'S the reality. 

There's not going to be any indictment. There's not going to be any recommendation for an indictment. There isn't any criminal investigation. Time to give up this dream guys. It's nonsense. 

Do you nervously cackle as you type?

 

[IC FBGCav]

I need to read more carefully, I didn't see the big deal about Bubba meeting a country singer at the airport.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Bull####. It was the one forum where he could discuss it openly.  To Saint's earlier point... He likely felt he needed to--so there's hope. 

I'm beginning to think this is shtick.  You're far too smart to believe half of the nonsense you're posting.  

Must be a werewolf game or something.  

 

[timschochet]

Well, when you decide to understand what's being investigated, we might invite you to back to your own thread and contribute again.  Until then, you don't have a leg to stand on or an opinion worth squadoosh.

What is a squadoosh? 

 

[Guest]

I'm beginning to think this is shtick.  You're far too smart to believe half of the nonsense you're posting.  

Must be a ware wolf game or something.  

Tommy -- it's politics.  The most high profile criminal investigation in many years is taking place, Lynch is under a ton of scrutiny as the judge, there's a broad assumption of impropriety. Bill is implicated at the very least peripherally.  To meet in private while this is at the stage it's in, with new revelations released that contradict Hillary's story and clarify her intent, is at the very least so poltically tone deaf as to be shocking.  It highlights the incestouous relationship when the judge agrees to a friendly visit with the husband of the subject to talk golf and grandkids.  It's a massive conflict of interest.

 

[timschochet]

Do you nervously cackle as you type?

Sometimes. I can't cackle like Hillary though. 

 

[cobalt_27]

What is a squadoosh? 

Something that, despite being pitiful, still has more merit than your proudly uninformed takes.

 

[Guest]

Sometimes. I can't cackle like Hillary though. 

'Tis a rare talent.  

 

[tommyGunZ]

Tommy -- it's politics.  The most high profile criminal investigation in many years is taking place, Lynch is under a ton of scrutiny as the judge, there's a broad assumption of impropriety. Bill is implicated at the very least peripherally.  To meet in private while this is at the stage it's in, with new revelations released that contradict Hillary's story and clarify her intent, is at the very least so poltically tone deaf as to be shocking.  It highlights the incestouous relationship when the judge agrees to a friendly visit with the husband of the subject to talk golf and grandkids.  It's a massive conflict of interest.

Lynch isn't a judge.  The rest of this sounds like it could have been cut and pasted from a Glenn Beck fan forum.  

I think my favorite part is where you suggest that there are "new revelations that clarify her intent".  As if Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch should be monitoring Drudge to keep up with the latest fake Republican scandal so that they can tip toe around it.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

J'accuse, recuse.

The deputy AG is one Sally Yates.

Right. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I'm already sorry I'm asking this, so please make the tinfoil entertaining.  TIA

If Bill Clinton wanted to have some sort of illicit conversation with Lynch why not just call?  Why would he meet with her somewhere in public where people are going to see it?

Because he didn't call. Personal meeting > phone > email.

I don't think Bill really expected to be seen, and the guy has been known to be impetuous and even reckless. He saw an opportunity, he took it. 

Lynch would never have said anything if she hadn't been asked by a reporter. As it was she used words like "mostly", "primarily", "mentioned." The US AG met with the next presidential spouse/consigliere and they talked about grandkids and golf. Ok. In real life, personal meetings and elite power encounters are the most substantial, it's the tin foil brigade who believe *anything*. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Sometimes. I can't cackle like Hillary though. 

Try bombing a country's leader to his death, then try it again.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Because he didn't call. Personal meeting > phone > email.

It's Facebook, then email, then Gchat, then text, then phone, then in person.

ETA: Oops, never mind, that was from lowest to highest.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Huma Abedin: "I always tried to do the right thing and tried to be on my state.gov blackberry."

- Apparently Abedin was pretty cooperative today.

Interesting she admits she knew that being on state,gov was the "right thing".

 

[dparker713]

Lol at recuse. 

President Obama is campaigning with Hillary next week. THAT'S the reality. 

There's not going to be any indictment. There's not going to be any recommendation for an indictment. There isn't any criminal investigation. Time to give up this dream guys. It's nonsense. 

JFC Tim.  Stop with this.  Its a bull#### argument.

 

[cstu]

What is a squadoosh? 

If you can't spot the doosh in your first half hour of meeting your team, then you ARE the squadoosh.

 

[jon_mx]

JFC Tim.  Stop with this.  Its a bull#### argument.

Thank you.  

 

[jon_mx]

Now we have a hack job by that radical right-wing tabloid known as NPR bringing up the appearance of impropriety that this meeting created.   Tim has already said there was none.  Can we all stop this already.  This email story has been dead for a year.  It is really boring me.  

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Well, when you decide to understand what's being investigated, we might invite you to back to your own thread and contribute again.  Until then, you don't have a leg to stand on or an opinion worth squadoosh.

The strongest public case for indictment seems to be Tim's comments that he wasn't all that interested in this boring nonsense.   Certainly stronger than the evidence that has been reported.  At least for those that lack the presumption of guilt.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

there's a broad assumption of impropriety.

And all of these worst case assumptions and idle speculation  are called the "facts" which "long ago" made the case "that we all should at least agree on".