Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (13 Viewers)

[cobalt_27]

Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

I'm sure she deleted those emails.  But, one cannot possibly believe a candidate for POTUS did not also delete emails that would have caused political damage.  Especially Hillary.

 

[cobalt_27]

I want to dig into this, but I'm so fatigued by Hillary's lies, her entire whole ####### sham, I just can't.  

I will vote for her against Trump.  That's all I can do.  I hate this person and all she represents, and it's this country's terrible luck there's someone in this election--someone she will run against--who's even more despicable.

 

[Guest]

www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/03/potential_indictment_of_hillary_could_be_convention_wild_card

"This is not a security review"...  

What is it, Tim?

 

[timschochet]

www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/03/potential_indictment_of_hillary_could_be_convention_wild_card

"This is not a security review"...  

What is it, Tim?

Link to the FBI saying its a criminal investigation? 

 

[cobalt_27]

Link to the FBI saying its a criminal investigation? 

It depends on what your definition of 'is' is, isn't it, Tim?

 

[timschochet]

It depends on what your definition of 'is' is, isn't it, Tim?

Not really no. 

 

[cobalt_27]

As a general rule, the FBI doesn't say much in public statements.  When they do while in the midst of an investigation, they don't say a lot.  The federal bureau who investigates stuff usually take on serious cases, not theft of Aunt Betty's China.  They are currently investigating whether or not laws were broken when Hillary used a private, unsecured server.  

Im not sure if this answers your question, Tim, but I hope it helps.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I want to dig into this, but I'm so fatigued by Hillary's lies, her entire whole ####### sham, I just can't.

When Bernie said that Americans are sick of hearing about Hillary Clinton's damn emails -- just speaking for myself, he was definitely right.

It's not that I don't think the emails are important. It's just that they're really boring, and it should be somebody else's duty, not mine, to look into them and figure out in what ways and how badly Hillary messed up. I want no part of it. Way too boring.

 

[Guest]

When Bernie said that Americans are sick of hearing about Hillary Clinton's damn emails -- just speaking for myself, he was definitely right.

It's not that I don't think the emails are important. It's just that they're really boring, and it should be somebody else's duty, not mine, to look into them and figure out in what ways and how badly Hillary messed up. I want no part of it. Way too boring.

That's certainly going to be the game...  Hope it's nothing someone would light a torch over when it all gets negotiated away in a back room.  Though I think it's exciting -- precisely because there are so many, many rags doused in kerosine. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

When Bernie said that Americans are sick of hearing about Hillary Clinton's damn emails -- just speaking for myself, he was definitely right.

It's not that I don't think the emails are important. It's just that they're really boring, and it should be somebody else's duty, not mine, to look into them and figure out in what ways and how badly Hillary messed up. I want no part of it. Way too boring.

Well there's the American political system right there.

Say where did all the money go and why are we fighting this war in ..... oh look a squirrel is skateboarding that's hilarious Trump's on tv!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Link to the FBI saying its a criminal investigation? 

The letter they filed in federal court should suffice.

You can also see Lynch acknowledging such in live testimony.

Plus Pagliano accepting immunity, so that's three times at least.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Clinton Fatigue Part II has already started and she hasn't even won anything yet. Imagine 4+ more years, let alone 8. Just thinking about it is exhausting.

Oy vey!

That & this.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Link that it's a criminal investigation? 

See above.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

In case anyone is interested in reading what Secretary Clinton has to say about this, IN CONTEXT:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

...

HS he said a "balanced view" not a damned campaign published pulp fiction.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Thanks Tim.  That's a pretty good summary.

Is there anything her accusers have on her other than "we will never know what she deleted!!"?

Anyone got any good links to an exhaustive balanced view on what exactly happened?

Sorry wait - you think something put out by the Hillary campaign is  a balanced view?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Who wrote this again? I mean an actual name, what person with a name wrote this? TIA

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Another swing and a miss.    ETA:  Well I guess I am only assuming a miss for the wild, blind swing at nothing.  You might have got lucky.  At least you are swinging hard on the off chance you hit something.

No this has been backed up by technical sites.

Given the NSA's refusal to give Clinton what she wanted, the secretary apparently decided to continue to use her personal e-mail server for State Department business, while her staff was fully aware of the security risks associated with using her BlackBerry.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/nsa-refused-clinton-a-secure-blackberry-like-obama-so-she-used-her-own/

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I did. How does that contradict what I wrote? It only confirms it: in all probability the foreigners who spied on us weren't aware that Hillary had a private server, which is why, so far as we know, they never tried to breach it. 

No it confirms they absolutely did.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

This is so funny in retrospect. Hillary spent half her SOS email time on wedding plans, funeral services, condolence notes, family vacations, yoga routines, offers from retailers, and spam, but not only that these are precisely the kind of innocuous things one does not delete. The State Department would have been happy to go through these and validate their innocuousness. Makes zero sense to delete them.

 

[jon_mx]

Tim not only missed the joke, but Tim is under this dilution that they are close friends.  Oh Hillary is likible enough.  No one would describe a close friend that way. 

 

[JuniorNB]

All these accusations against Hillary and the fact that so many people, both Republican and democrat,  can't stand her, just goes to show that she would normally have no shot at winning the general election. She just isn't well-liked. And with this golden opportunity, the GOP is brining as their nominee...DONALD TRUMP!!  LOL. One of the few people in this country who could possibly be more unlikable. 

 

[IvanKaramazov]

 at coming back to the "yoga routines" thing.  Tim is the person on the planet who buys this.

 

[timschochet]

 at coming back to the "yoga routines" thing.  Tim is the person on the planet who buys this.

Of course I buy it. It makes a whole lot more sense than her deleting some super secret criminal stuff or stuff that would be highly embarrassing to her. If stuff like that truly existed would she have trusted it to email in the first place? Of course not. 

 

[Guest]

Of course I buy it. It makes a whole lot more sense than her deleting some super secret criminal stuff or stuff that would be highly embarrassing to her. If stuff like that truly existed would she have trusted it to email in the first place? Of course not. 

Why'd she lie about most of her emails being to Bill?  Seems a strange thing to do if she's being honest about what was contained in those emails.  Just another of endless examples where if her lips are moving she lies.  And you seem surprised when there's an evident gap between her accounts of things and truth, that some are skeptical. (If you recall, in addition to yoga routines, she said most of the emails were to Bill.  Bill is on record after that time as saying he only sent one email ever.)  So which is it?  The problem is that Hillary spins everything.  She looks for the expedient way to what she wants, which you admire and think is effective.  I see it as a duplicitous nature.  I do not trust her, and I do not want a relationship with someone I don't trust.  I expect the same should be true of all of the American People.  If you can't trust for someone, do not vote for them.  Hillary is unworthy of public trust.  There's enough of a record suggesting it.

 

[The Commish]

And the most hilariously ironic part of this whole thing is the guy Saints quoted who frets over Hillary giving up all of that "cyber security"- ironic because while there is no record of Hillary's private server having ever been breached, there IS record that the State Department's server was breached and all their emails stolen. So much for all that cyber security: Hillary's server was very likely much safer! 

 

[shader]

Sorry wait - you think something put out by the Hillary campaign is  a balanced view?

No idea.  Seemed well written.  Is there anything else you can recommend?  Are we just criticizing her for what might have been deleted?  Probably best to wait for the investigation to conclude, not that it will change anyone's mind.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

No idea.  Seemed well written.  Is there anything else you can recommend?  Are we just criticizing her for what might have been deleted?  Probably best to wait for the investigation to conclude, not that it will change anyone's mind.

That's fair of course, I would just say look beyond her own campaign for an objective summary, that is the complete opposite.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Of course I buy it. It makes a whole lot more sense than her deleting some super secret criminal stuff or stuff that would be highly embarrassing to her. If stuff like that truly existed would she have trusted it to email in the first place? Of course not. 

Well Tim we have one objective repository for comparison, the Blumenthal emails produced by Blumenthal and hacked by Guccifer. The Hillary emails deleted there were intelligence reports from hired gun ex-CIA. That was an extremely narrow issue, Libyan policy, and 15 emails with just one person were missing on that issue alone.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/us/state-dept-gets-libya-emails-that-clinton-didnt-hand-over.html?_r=0&referer=

 

[JuniorNB]

No idea.  Seemed well written.  Is there anything else you can recommend?  Are we just criticizing her for what might have been deleted?  Probably best to wait for the investigation to conclude, not that it will change anyone's mind.

Well to give you an idea, an investigative committee, LED BY  REPUBLICANS,  determined there was no wrongdoing on Hillary's part in the Benghazi incident.  Yet a day never goes by that conservatives aren't still desperately trying to use Benghazi as a negative against her. So it won't make a bit of difference what they determine regarding her emails. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Well to give you an idea, an investigative committee, LED BY  REPUBLICANS,  determined there was no wrongdoing on Hillary's part in the Benghazi incident.  Yet a day never goes by that conservatives aren't still desperately trying to use Benghazi as a negative against her. So it won't make a bit of difference what they determine regarding her emails. 

True anything by the GOP is no more objective than Hillary's campaign. We trust the ARB report, right?

In that vein you can look at the three letters issued by the two inspectors general so far, as well as the letter filed by the FBI and the affidavit filed by Hillary in federal court, that's a good start.

 

[Guest]

Well Tim we have one objective repository for comparison, the Blumenthal emails produced by Blumenthal and hacked by Guccifer. The Hillary emails deleted there were intelligence reports from hired gun ex-CIA. That was an extremely narrow issue, Libyan policy, and 15 emails with just one person were missing on that issue alone.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/us/state-dept-gets-libya-emails-that-clinton-didnt-hand-over.html?_r=0&referer=

Yoga.

 

[Poppa]

Of course I buy it. It makes a whole lot more sense than her deleting some super secret criminal stuff or stuff that would be highly embarrassing to her. If stuff like that truly existed would she have trusted it to email in the first place? Of course not. 

I long ago decided that, on this issue, Hillarychochet is simply obtuse. Completely incapable of seeing beyond his/her rose-colored lenses...

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Of course I buy it. It makes a whole lot more sense than her deleting some super secret criminal stuff or stuff that would be highly embarrassing to her. If stuff like that truly existed would she have trusted it to email in the first place? Of course not. 

 

[Henry Ford]

This is so funny in retrospect. Hillary spent half her SOS email time on wedding plans, funeral services, condolence notes, family vacations, yoga routines, offers from retailers, and spam, but not only that these are precisely the kind of innocuous things one does not delete. The State Department would have been happy to go through these and validate their innocuousness. Makes zero sense to delete them.

And if they were correspondence with her side piece, including naked pictures of Hillary Clinton? Do you think the State Department would have been happy to see that?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And if they were correspondence with her side piece, including naked pictures of Hillary Clinton? Do you think the State Department would have been happy to see that?

Ha what are you saying here, Henry, that Hillary had a porn sexting sideline with Bill? 

Interesting theory, I won't rule it out. I'm guessing Tim is a subscriber if this rumor is true.

 

[Henry Ford]

Ha what are you saying here, Henry, that Hillary had a porn sexting sideline with Bill? 

Interesting theory, I won't rule it out. I'm guessing Tim is a subscriber if this rumor is true.

Bill, or someone else.  Maybe she has weird "blue dress" cosplay stuff or she writes my little pony fanfic or something.

 

[skol asylum]

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Security professionals agree with the NSA's decision to deny Clinton her secured device.

“This frightens me that it would even be contemplated, and that reportedly the previous administration had a waiver!?” Nicholas Weaver, a senior researcher at the International Computer Science Institute, told the Daily Dot in an email.

“The U.S. government has to deal with VERY advanced adversaries, the kind who will bug typewriters that are used to type up classified information,” Weaver continued. “The whole point of a SCIF is it is effectively a safety belt, preventing a huge amount of potential problems. Having mobile computers, with wireless communication, which go in and out of a SCIF ... frightens me."

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-denied-clinton-secure-blackberry/

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

- So basically here Hillary and her staff were told that Blackberry use for documentation requiring SCIF was prohibited - and were told to "shut up and color" - but apparently they went ahead and did it anyway on their own.

Nothing you posted supports your conclusion.

One additional though on this.


 

Brian Fallon ‎@brianefallon


.@KenDilanianAP We always said the emails given to State dated back only to March 09. That was when she started using http://clintonemail.com

Something we talked about a while back was why Hillary's emails had not gone back before March 2009.

Well it's been confirmed now that Hillary finally took the NSA's final word on this (shut up and go color) on March 11, 2009. And she started her private emails use on March 18, 2009. So yeah, apparently that's exactly what happened, the timing certainly fits.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I haven't looked into the email server thing, but perhaps I should because a lot of you obviously have no idea what the seriousness of this may or may not be.

Anyone got any good links to an exhaustive balanced view on what exactly happened?  Not a right wing website that has her convicted already and not an article that is solely designed to exonerate her, but a balanced view of the situation?

Have to say this has been pretty tough considering the issues here are technical, security based, and legal.

This isn't bad, it's a fairly neutral run down of dates and events involved, though even here there are many holes and points to fill in.

Hillary Clinton’s Email: the Definitive Timeline



2008


December: President Obama nominates Hillary Clinton for secretary of state.


2009


Jan. 13: Reports say the clintonemail.com domain was established.

Jan. 21: Senate confirms Clinton as secretary of state.

March 18: Clinton will later name this as the date she began using a private server for government business.


2012


Sept. 11: Islamic extremists launch the terrorist attacks on U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya, killing Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

October: Clinton convenes Accountability Review Board (ARB) to investigate State Dept. actions surrounding Benghazi.

After the ARB and Congress call for Benghazi-related documents, top Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan are allegedly present at a document sorting session in the basement of the State Dept., according to Deputy Assistant Secretary Raymond Maxwell, who later told me he witnessed the operation. No law enforcement body contacted or interviewed Maxwell.

Nov. 7: Judicial Watch files Freedom of Information (FOI) Act request with State Dept. for Benghazi-related emails and other information.

December: I (then at CBS News) file a Freedom of Information Act request with the State Dept. for Benghazi-related emails and other information.

Dec. 10, 2012: Clinton cancels a trip due North Africa and the mideast to “illness” and a “bug.” State Dept. does not disclose she has fallen and received a head injury.

Dec. 13, 2012: State Dept. discloses that Clinton had “fallen” while suffering from a stomach virus sometime the previous week and gotten a “concussion” that was “not severe.” Bill Clinton would later say that her injury “required six months of very serious work to get over.”

Clinton postpones imminent Congressional testimony which had been scheduled.

Dec. 18-19: Clinton writes Congress promising to implement ARB recommendations and ARB officials provide briefing on their findings.

Judicial Watch files another FOI request with State Dept.

Dec. 30: State Dept. discloses discovery of “blood clot” in her head from the concussion.


2013


Jan. 7: Clinton returns to work after her concussion.

Jan. 23: Clinton testifies to Senate Foreign Relations Committee and House Foreign Affairs Committee where she utters her infamous “What difference, at this point, does it make?” comment.

Feb. 1: Clinton leaves State Dept.

Feb. 25: Judicial Watch files two lawsuits against State Dept. for failing to lawfully respond to FOI requests.

March 22: “Guccifer” hacks Clinton’s emails via aide’s account showing that Clinton had received confidential information from a public account.

August: Congress subpoenas Benghazi documents.

Nov. 26: State Dept. tells me (then at CBS News) that it has posted all documents responsive to my Benghazi FOI request from Dec. 2012.


2014


May 5: Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., is named head of the House Benghazi Committee to investigate the 2012 terrorist attacks.

May 8: House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, formally announces formation of House Benghazi Committee.

June 13: Judicial Watch files a FOI request with State Dept. seeking Benghazi information and Clinton notes.

August: State Dept. provides House Benghazi Committee with eight emails to or from Clinton that, for the first time, show her use of a private email account.

Sept. 4: Judicial Watch sues State Dept. for failure to respond to a June 13, 2014 FOI request seeking Benghazi records and Clinton notes.

Sept. 17: House Benghazi Committee holds its first public hearing. Topic: implementation of ARB recommendations.

October: State Dept. sends letters to Clinton and her three predecessors as secretary of state seeking work emails related to personal accounts.

Nov. 18: House Benghazi Committee makes additional request for Clinton emails from State Dept.

Nov. 26: President Obama signs into law an updated Federal Records Act requiring public officials to forward all work-related email to their government address.

December: House Benghazi Committee sends request to the White House for documents and communications pertaining to Benghazi.

Dec. 5: Clinton privately turns over copies of 30,490 “work-related” emails to the State Dept. totaling 55,000 printed pages. No date has been provided as to when she deleted her “private” emails, but it is presumed to be around this time frame.

Dec. 10: House Benghazi Committee holds second public hearing. Topic: implementation of ARB recommendations.


2015


Jan. 27: House Benghazi Committee holds third public hearing. Topic: federal agencies’ poor response to document requests and subpoenas.

February: White House and House Benghazi Committee meet to discuss Dec. 2014 document request. White House eventually produces 266 pages.

Feb. 13: State Dept. produces 300 emails to and from Clinton, but no other documents responsive to the House Benghazi Committee’s broader Nov. 18, 2014 request for all emails to and from Clinton and her senior staff.

Late Feb.: In discussions, the State Dept. informs the House Benghazi Committee that Clinton did not have a government email address, and that it had never had possession of her emails until her attorney first turned them over—in paper form—to the State Dept. in Dec. 2014.

March 2: New York Times reports Clinton may have violated federal regulations by using personal email account hdr22@clintonemail.com for public business as secretary of state.

March 4: Associated Press reports that Clinton’s personal email address traces to private email server at her Chappaqua, New York home registered under pseudonym.

House Benghazi Committee privately issues two subpoena: one for emails from Clinton’s personal account, the other for documents it requested in Nov. 2014 (but did not receive) relating to 10 senior State Dept. officials.

Clinton does not disclose the subpoena but tweets, “I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible.”

March 10: Clinton answers questions about her email practices for the first time. She tells reporters:
It was more convenient to use the private server.
“I wanted to use just one device for both personal and work emails instead of two.”
Last year, she deleted nearly 31,000+ emails that were “private.”
She will not turn over her personal email server.
She “fully complied” with the law.
She has turned over to the State Dept. 55,000 pages of work-related emails.
There were 62,320 emails in her account: 30,490 were public business; 31,830 were private.

March 11: Associated Press sues State Dept. for Clinton emails and documents not provided under FOI request.

April 12: Clinton announces she’s running for president.

April 15: Nearly two years after Congress first issues subpoena for ARB documents, the State Dept. produces 1,700+ pages.

April 23: State Dept. produces an additional 2,500 pages of ARB documents.

House Benghazi Committee writes Clinton’s personal attorney to reiterate its “request for her to turn over the server to a neutral, third party, such as an inspector general.”

April: White House produces 266 pages of documents including emails to and from National Security Staff. House Benghazi Committee sends White House another letter reiterating and refining its Dec. 2014 request for additional documents.

April 30: House Benghazi Committee announces the State Dept. has provided 4,000 more pages of documents, for the first time related to the ARB’s work.

Judicial Watch announces a lawsuit to release documents regarding Clinton’s use of iPhone or iPad for official business.

May 5-6, 2015: Judicial Watch files seven new FOI lawsuits related to Clinton’s use of private email server, seeking emails of her top aide Huma Abedin and records about Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation.

May 8: House Benghazi Committee releases interim report:
It has received 20,000+ pages of new emails and documents from State Dept. for the first time including emails to or from Clinton.
It has held 24+ classified and unclassified briefings with the Administration and Executive Branch agencies.

May 22: State Dept. releases 296 Benghazi-related emails from Clinton’s private email account.

Week of June 16: House Benghazi Committee deposes Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal behind closed doors in a deposition nearly nine hours long.

June 22: House Benghazi Committee releases 60 emails sent to Clinton by Blumenthal, including some regarding Libya.

June 25: State Dept. provides House Benghazi Committee with some subpoenaed Benghazi-related emails that that Clinton had not turned over previously.

July 7: House Benghazi Committee releases news of Clinton subpoena (from last March) for the first time.

July 23: The New York Times reports that two Inspectors General have asked the Department of Justice to investigate whether Clinton mishandled sensitive government information.

July 28: Clinton revises her statement regarding classified email to say she is confident she never sent or received emails that were classified at the time.

July 31: The federal judge in a Judicial Watch FOI suit, Emmet Sullivan, orders State Dept. to request that Clinton and top aides Cheryl Mills and Human Abedin confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all government records in their possession, return any other government records immediately, and describe their use of Hillary Clinton’s email server to conduct government business.

Aug. 5: State Dept. sends letter to Clinton including Judge Sullivan’s order.

Aug. 6: Cheryl Mills’ attorney tells Judicial Watch it has instructed Mills to “delete any and all electronic copies [of potential federal records] in her possession” after her anticipated production of records on Aug. 10. Judicial Watch files an emergency request to block the destruction.

Aug. 11: Inspector General report to the Senate contradicts Clinton claims; some Clinton emails, says the IG, contained information that was classified at the time.

FBI takes custody of Clinton server and thumb drives.

Aug. 12: Clinton campaign strikes back as her poll numbers falter, including using the Media Matters blog to print her talking points attacking news reports on NBC and Fox. The blog uses other left-wing Astroturf outlets such as “Vox” as supposed support for its claims.

Aug. 15: In a campaign appearance at the Iowa State Fair, Clinton revises her statement about classified email a second time, stating that she never sent or received any that were “marked” classified.

Aug. 19: Clinton’s personal lawyer tells a Senate committee that all data, including emails, was erased from her server prior to it being turned over to the FBI.

Clinton tells reporters the investigation surrounding her server “has nothing to do with me.” She contradicts the Inspector General by reiterating that she never sent or received classified material.

Aug. 20: State Dept. tells Judge Sullivan Clinton did not use State Dept. issued or secure Blackberry device; Blackberries used by Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Human Abedin were likely destroyed.

Aug. 27: Appearing to read from notes, Clinton told an Iowa audience that using a personal email server “…clearly wasn’t the best choice..I take responsibility…” She repeated her modified statement, “I never sent nor received any e-mail that was marked classified. [emphasis added]”

Aug. 31: State Dept. publicly releases 7,000 pages of Clinton emails. Among other revelations, they show that Freedom of Information (FOI) law was violated since responsive emails had not been provided earlier under various FOI requests. Documents can be found by visiting the State Dept. FOI page and searching “Hillary Clinton.”

Sept. 3: Former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills testifies to House Benghazi Committee behind closed doors.

Former Clinton campaign staffer and State Dept. official Bryan Pagliano, who helped set up Clinton’s personal server, tells Congress he will plead the Fifth Amendment and refuse the Congressional subpoena to testify.

Sept. 4: Former top Clinton aide Jake Sullivan testifies to House Benghazi Committee behind closed doors.

Sept. 8: A day after saying she had nothing to apologize for, Clinton says she’s “sorry” in an interview with ABC News.

Sept. 10: Pagliano takes the Fifth in a private meeting before the House Benghazi Committee.

Sept. 25: AP reports Obama administration has found work emails between Clinton and Gen. David Petraeus that she did not turn over. The dates call into question Clinton’s claim that she turned over all work related emails from her home system.

The State Dept. says it’s sending the House Benghazi Committee 925 more Clinton Benghazi and/or Libya-related emails that were not previously turned over.

Oct. 22: Clinton testifies before House Benghazi Committee for approximately 11 hours.

Nov. 30: State Dept. releases 8,000 more Clinton emails; some of the emails received “classified” markings.


2016


Jan. 15: The Inspector General for the intelligence community Charles McCullough tells members of Congress that several dozen additional classified emails have been identified in Clinton’s stash, including some with a higher classification than top secret, regarding highly sensitive programs.

https://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-email-the-definitive-timeline/

- Main thing I would add is that there have been FOIA lawsuits in 50 cases by different news and citizens groups, including the AP - who really started this thing, Washington Post, DeSmogBlog (an environmentalist group), Vice News, and multiple others.

- I would also add that this month Hillary's IT guy Bryan Pagliano accepted immunity from prosecution from the FBI.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

More on how this could end up Watergate if back room deals are cut, and how NSA also has bad blood with Clinton and will be majorly tweaked if she is not prosecuted.

From the Tim Alternate Universe file.

http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-has-an-nsa-problem/

The State Department has not released the full document trail here, so the complete story remains unknown to the public. However, one senior NSA official, now retired, recalled the kerfuffle with Team Clinton in early 2009 about Blackberrys. “It was the usual Clinton prima donna stuff,” he explained, “the whole ‘rules are for other people’ act that I remembered from the ’90s.” Why Ms. Clinton would not simply check her personal email on an office computer, like every other government employee less senior than the president, seems a germane question, given what a major scandal email-gate turned out to be. “What did she not want put on a government system, where security people might see it?” the former NSA official asked, adding, “I wonder now, and I sure wish I’d asked about it back in 2009.”

He’s not the only NSA affiliate with pointed questions about what Hillary Clinton and her staff at Foggy Bottom were really up to—and why they went to such trouble to circumvent federal laws about the use of IT systems and the handling of classified information. This has come to a head thanks to Team Clinton’s gross mishandling of highly classified NSA intelligence.

Heavy stuff. The interesting thing here is that, in addition to the desire to avoid Foia, this provides one more motive for Hillary's reliance on a private server.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Other warning signs were more ominous. The Clintons, for instance, had been late for their own inauguration. A case of jitters or understandable last-minute fussing?

No, not according to extremely reliable sources who have spoken to me and who, for obvious reasons, must remain anonymous. One of the reasons the Clintons were late was because Vice President Gore had just found out that the West Wing office usually reserved for the vice president was instead going to be occupied by the first lady.

Network news cameras, trained on Blair House the morning of the inauguration, recorded a glimpse of the president and first lady screaming at each other. Sources I consider very reliable affirm that Clinton told Hillary that if she didn't back off from her plans to unseat Gore, Gore would go public with his anger and perhaps resign. Hillary shouted at him that as far as she was concerned, they had a deal -- a deal that dated back to the campaign, when Lloyd Cutler had convinced her to stand by Clinton despite the allegations that he'd had an affair with Gennifer Flowers. The matter had already been decided, she said, and she had no intention of backing off; Gore was bluffing.

The Clintons arrived a half hour late at the White House Residence to join President and Barbara Bush. They also established an odd precedent. No first couple-elect had ever brought friends with them for the traditional tea with the retiring president and first lady in the Blue Room before the motorcade journey to the Capitol for the swearing-in ceremony. But for some indiscernible reason, the Clintons brought along their friends Harry Thomason and his wife.

After taking the oath, Bill and Hillary Clinton were taken to a holding room in the Capitol building. Minutes passed while everyone waited for Bill and Hillary to emerge to commence the inaugural festivities. A Capitol Hill police officer was ordered to inform the Clintons that everyone was ready and waiting.

The policeman knocked and opened the door of the holding room. He immediately shut it, beating a hasty retreat. Hillary Clinton was screaming at her husband in what was described as "uncontrolled and unbridled fury." Apparently, the matter of office space was not settled.

The Capitol Hill police and the Secret Service quickly conferred about intervening if it appeared the president's life might be threatened by the first lady! The question before them was, "How much physical abuse is too much physical abuse?"

I reached the intersection of 17th Street and F and angled my FBI car into the government parking area. A parking space near the White House was a major perk, and I knew it. I looked up at the west side of the Old Executive Office Building (OEOB). It looked the same as the last time I saw it, days ago, just before the Bush administration ended.

The same uniformed Secret Service guard was still standing in the same guard shack, and I watched a few permanent staff members hurrying in and out of the gate. Everything looked the same to me, but then, why would I expect anything to be different? Except for a change of political party and a new president, this was the White House.

I checked over the visor for my blue White House pass and slipped the chain with the pass around my neck. I needed the pass to get through the electronic gate, and although everyone knew me, wearing the pass at all times set a good example to those who were not so concerned about security.

Dennis looked agitated. "I tell you, Gary, this is going to be a challenge. I don't know about you, but I'm having a heck of a time getting these Clinton people to grant interviews. I call people up, tell them who I am and what I need to do, and they tell me they're too busy to talk to the FBI!"

Too busy to talk to the FBI? How did they expect to get permanent passes to the White House or security clearances so they could read classified material? Even during the Gulf War, people in the Bush administration worked us into their schedule.

Our SPIN cases had short deadlines, and there were hundreds of cases to complete. The temporary passes that were issued by the Secret Service ran out in ninety days. By my calculations, we would have to complete several cases every day if we were to avoid a problem with the Secret Service and Counsel's Office. There wasn't any time to chase staff who considered themselves "too busy."

"Gary, I think we're in for some real trouble," Dennis warned. "With Bush, we were dealing with straight arrows. I don't think that's going to be the case here. Just look at Zoe Baird and her husband-two rich yuppies screwing over two ignorant illegal aliens, while she's making over $500,000 a year. And they wanted her to be the AG [attorney general] -- an AG who doesn't know or doesn't care that she's violating federal law. These are the sort of people we're dealing with, Gary. And if that's true for the AG, just think of the rest of the administration."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/unlimitedaccess.htm

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

No this has been backed up by technical sites.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/nsa-refused-clinton-a-secure-blackberry-like-obama-so-she-used-her-own/

They are making the same mistake you are,  And yes I see the author's credentials, he is still mixing apples (non secured email) and oranges (scif).  

 

[jon_mx]

 

[Guest]

They are making the same mistake you are,  And yes I see the author's credentials, he is still mixing apples (non secured email) and oranges (scif).  

I reluctantly agree with this.  Reveals a very troubling mindset, but no direct linkage.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

They are making the same mistake you are,  And yes I see the author's credentials, he is still mixing apples (non secured email) and oranges (scif).  

Ok I hear you but let me ask you about this: the timing is there, the NSA shoots down Hillary & Co. on 3/11/09 and her use of the email system per her own documentations begins on 3/18/09 (the Fallon quote I provided above said "March 09"). This is purely coincidental to you?

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

naked pictures of Hillary Clinton? Do you think the State Department would have been happy to see that?

No. No one would be happy to see that. Not even Christo.

 

[jon_mx]

No. No one would be happy to see that. Not even Christo.

How about Hillary in yoga pants.  Thank God she wiped the server of those e-mails.  Pity the FBI agent who recovered them though.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Why'd she lie about most of her emails being to Bill?  Seems a strange thing to do if she's being honest about what was contained in those emails.  Just another of endless examples where if her lips are moving she lies.  And you seem surprised when there's an evident gap between her accounts of things and truth, that some are skeptical. (If you recall, in addition to yoga routines, she said most of the emails were to Bill.  Bill is on record after that time as saying he only sent one email ever.)  So which is it?  The problem is that Hillary spins everything.  She looks for the expedient way to what she wants, which you admire and think is effective.  I see it as a duplicitous nature.  I do not trust her, and I do not want a relationship with someone I don't trust.  I expect the same should be true of all of the American People.  If you can't trust for someone, do not vote for them.  Hillary is unworthy of public trust.  There's enough of a record suggesting it.

Where is this ever said?  Certainly not here.  Was there another statement I'm forgetting?

I assume these are the statements that are the source of this claim about lying about Bill Clinton's usage of email-

• The server contains personal communications from my husband and me, and I believe I have met all of my responsibilities and the server will remain private and I think that the State Department will be able, over time, to release all of the records that were provided.
  
• Well, the system we used was set up for President Clinton’s office. 
  

I don't think that knowing he only sent two emails proves that these are lies. In fact I think both are rather likely to be true at least technically.  I can understand wanting better than "technically true" from our candidates, but I think this is actually more than we usually receive.   

 

[cstu]

"Gary, I think we're in for some real trouble," Dennis warned. "With Bush, we were dealing with straight arrows. I don't think that's going to be the case here. Just look at Zoe Baird and her husband-two rich yuppies screwing over two ignorant illegal aliens, while she's making over $500,000 a year. And they wanted her to be the AG [attorney general] -- an AG who doesn't know or doesn't care that she's violating federal law. These are the sort of people we're dealing with, Gary. And if that's true for the AG, just think of the rest of the administration."

First, 'straight arrows' is

Second, Baird was sponsoring the people she hired for citizenship and paying them as well as giving them room and board.