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Trump: Shark - Tiny brain, unpredictable, doesn't make sense, very dangerous.
Initially thought of a fox for Hillary, but I don't get a sense that her path was carved by her smarts rather handlers and public opinion along with candidates running against her.
You missed the parts where Tim got evicerated on cross-examination and conceded she was talking $. But, we all know you follow him around like a pup, so this comes as no surprise.
No I didn't, because there weren't any. You made a horse's patootie out of yourself with that comment and Tim called you on it.
If all Hillary spoke about was foreign policy why is she so reluctant to release the speech transcripts?
People are voting for Hillary because of Bill, not because of her. They want the 90's magic back that Bill brought. She's has none of that.
I don't care whether you read them or not. My point is that every time someone asks you a question about the specifics of one of these issues, you're unable to answer. You generally go with the "several years back I read a little about it, and the article saying she did nothing wrong made sense to me at the time" defense. If you're going to claim that specific accusations are untrue, you should at least know a little about them.
When I at first read this I thought 'we deserve better', maybe we don't, maybe this is exactly what we deserve. As a people we have been selfish and unserious, Cold War ended, we won and we threw a rave.
Yes. My disgust is with the process that was coming down the tracks and gave us this, and makes us feel lucky for a "partially honest" candidate.
What do you call it when DNC is stacked with Clinton campaigners and makes it clear to all comers that you're getting sabotaged if it's "not your turn?" That was a process.
Kristof is exactly right, as usual. The "Hillary is a dishonest liar" talking point created by Rove and parroted by many in the Bernie movement is horse####.
Hence the need to constantly inform people of what they haven't learned after 25 years on the national scene.
Such a weird article. It essentially says she's dishonest, but the narrative that she is so is bogus.
That was obvious from the first post you ever made in this thread and continuing with your daily over-the-top Hillary rants. The only shock would be if you said you were voting otherwise.
Foil? 
C'mon, Tim. Her reputation is well-deserved and is 100% her fault. Someone doesn't get the reputation of being a liar and dishonest because of something someone else said. This has been going on for 30+ years with her - this isn't some newbie on the scene where you might question that reputation. The American people have seen enough of her for YEARS to come to that conclusion.
There's exactly 3 guys in here- myself, Squis, and Tommy- who are Hillary supporters. There's about 20 people in this thread who hate her guts, from the right and the left- and you need a foil for US???
I like you Max, but in this thread you've been nothing but pathetic. If it wasn't for BeaverCleaver you'd be the worst critic of Hillary here, since all you've ever been able to do is call her names without one bit of substance to back you up. But thanks to Beaver you come off as reasonable.
If I'm not top five your rankings are a sham.timschochet said:
Anyone who thinks this is all a Karl Rove "narrative" is just kidding themselves.
Trump... a baboonMr. Ham said:
she should steer clear of this invective.... she did stand arm and arm with a giant smile at his wedding not so long agoSaintsInDome2006 said:
Yeah, it's lazy and honestly just a crappy grasp of basic history by tgunz there.
I disagree. As Kristof suggests, Hillary isn't any more "dishonest" than her contemporaries, despite her narrative. It's those who repeat the false narrative who are being lazy, IMO.
You and I will disagree on the validity of the narrative, but it most certainly didn't originate from Karl Rove.
I agree with this. Not because there is anything substantive, but b/c Hillary's camp knows that whatever the transcript says, her detractors will turn it into "OMG LOOK AT THE LIES".cobalt_27 said:
Sure. It started with the Rove before Rove, whichever Republican operative that was.
Nope. Won't happen. She needs a male VP. While she does well with women she struggles mightily with men. And I'm not sure Warren wants to be associated with her.
Why? I have never voted R (for President).squistion said:
Whatever, dude. You're such an apologist it's pathetic. If this were a republican you would calling for their heads.
