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To every little girl who dreams big- yes, you can be anything you want to be. Even President. Tonight is for you- 

Hillary Clinton. (just tweeted this out.) 

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
How disappointed are you going to be if the FBI releases in its report that these emails were outside the scope of its investigation?
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I don't think disappointed is the right word. I probably be a little confused considering the emails are pretty much directly related to their investigation. 

I don't really understand this question honestly. Are you sort of hoping this all just magically goes away?

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Absent of an indictment, Hillary is our next President.  It is what it is.
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Agreed, so long as Donald continues what he's been doing this week.  Who knows, damage may be done to the extent he can't recover.  And, for as much as I hate/loathe Hillary, this is a good thing--a really good thing--for the country, given the alternative.  Not that she is a good candidate or will make an effective president.  Quite the contrary.  But, she is not the dumpster fire that Trump is.  So, let's hope for no indictment.

 
I am sorry.  We found heroine, but we were only looking for pot.  Since it was outside our scope we are not pressing charges.  Yeah, that happens.  

 
Gopher State said:
Makes you proud to be an American
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Actually- while I'm proud to be an American already, on this issue- no. 

The fact is that we've waited much longer than most countries to have a woman leader. Margaret Thatcher was 35 years ago. Golda Meir and Indira Gandhi almost 50 years ago. Why have we taken so long? 

 
cobalt_27 said:
Agreed, so long as Donald continues what he's been doing this week.  Who knows, damage may be done to the extent he can't recover.  And, for as much as I hate/loathe Hillary, this is a good thing--a really good thing--for the country, given the alternative.  Not that she is a good candidate or will make an effective president.  Quite the contrary.  But, she is not the dumpster fire that Trump is.  So, let's hope for no indictment.
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NorvilleBarnes said:
I don't think disappointed is the right word. I probably be a little confused considering the emails are pretty much directly related to their investigation. 

I don't really understand this question honestly. Are you sort of hoping this all just magically goes away?
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I'm asking about the e-mails that Hillary did not turn over because she claimed them to be not work related.  If I understand you correctly, it is this cache of e-mails where you believe the real crimes exist.  But these e-mails are not part of those identified during the FOIA release as containing classified information.  So I'm asking if investigating other things such as fraud does not happen will you be disappointed?  Will you consider the investigation legitimate?  Other than noting that news reports a month ago stated that the investigation was limited in scope to "security" items (which I take with a grain of salt) this isn't a prediction, but a what if.

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
I'm asking about the e-mails that Hillary did not turn over because she claimed them to be not work related.  If I understand you correctly, it is this cache of e-mails where you believe the real crimes exist.  But these e-mails are not part of those identified during the FOIA release as containing classified information.  So I'm asking if investigating other things such as fraud does not happen will you be disappointed?  Will you consider the investigation legitimate?  Other than noting that news reports a month ago stated that the investigation was limited in scope to "security" items (which I take with a grain of salt) this isn't a prediction, but a what if.
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What would make it illegitimate?  The FBI does not limit their investigation if it leads to a different crime then initially investigated. 

 
cobalt_27 said:
Thought it was pretty bad, myself.
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He hit his 3 best issues: 

1. Trump represents change. 

2. He'll reverse our trade policy. 

3. Hillary represents the corporate establishment. 

This is, IMO, Trump's best chance at a winning election message. If he can stay away from the unforced errors, from his lack of foreign policy knowledge, and focus on this he's got a shot. 

 
cobalt_27 said:
Thought it was pretty bad, myself.
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I don't know why they put him on the prompter.  The prompter is a skill that takes time. His advantage is when he speaks off the cuff. Why have him do something he struggles at while taking away the weapon that got him to where he is?

 
Willie Neslon said:
I don't know why they put him on the prompter.  The prompter is a skill that takes time. His advantage is when he speaks off the cuff. Why have him do something he struggles at while taking away the weapon that got him to where he is?
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Because the GOP needs a 12' ladder and what they have is a 6' ladder with small rungs. 

 
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jon_mx said:
What would make it illegitimate?  The FBI does not limit their investigation if it leads to a different crime then initially investigated. 
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So hypothetically if the FBI stated that while they recovered these emails they did not actually go fishing through the 30000 personal emails because those emails were out of scope of their investigation would you be happy with their efforts?

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
I'm asking about the e-mails that Hillary did not turn over because she claimed them to be not work related.  If I understand you correctly, it is this cache of e-mails where you believe the real crimes exist.  But these e-mails are not part of those identified during the FOIA release as containing classified information.  So I'm asking if investigating other things such as fraud does not happen will you be disappointed?  Will you consider the investigation legitimate?  Other than noting that news reports a month ago stated that the investigation was limited in scope to "security" items (which I take with a grain of salt) this isn't a prediction, but a what if.
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Speaking personally, I'll be relieved.  I've been railing against Hillary for this, in part because I want honest politicians with integrity and don't believe Hillary to represent this at all, but even moreso because her shady practices put us in jeopardy of getting Trump by default.  If I am wrong and my anxiety over this is unwarranted, thank god.  I've said before I trust Comey, and if nothing comes from the FBI investigation, I fully trust nothing was there.

My problem is I'm very concerned a full audit of her emails and practices gives her way too much legal exposure.  Nothing about that is good.  But, if she can clear this hurdle by the election, she should be able to dispense of Donald pretty easily they way he's running this campaign.  And, hey, if she's indicted after the election, all the better...we get her running mate as president, and that's best case scenario.

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
So hypothetically if the FBI stated that while they recovered these emails they did not actually go fishing through the 30000 personal emails because those emails were out of scope of their investigation would you be happy with their efforts?
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I'm not sure why the FBI wouldn't go thru those emails in the first place.  Why would they POSSIBLY ignore them?  Are you hoping that's what they're going to do?

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
So hypothetically if the FBI stated that while they recovered these emails they did not actually go fishing through the 30000 personal emails because those emails were out of scope of their investigation would you be happy with their efforts?
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I have no idea by what logic they would be considered out of scope.  Hillary co-mingled thousands of classified emails with personal email.  It would be gross negligence if the FBI did not check every email for additional spillage of secret information.  

 
cobalt_27 said:
Speaking personally, I'll be relieved.  I've been railing against Hillary for this, in part because I want honest politicians with integrity and don't believe Hillary to represent this at all, but even moreso because her shady practices put us in jeopardy of getting Trump by default.  If I am wrong and my anxiety over this is unwarranted, thank god.  I've said before I trust Comey, and if nothing comes from the FBI investigation, I fully trust nothing was there.

My problem is I'm very concerned a full audit of her emails and practices gives her way too much legal exposure.  Nothing about that is good.  But, if she can clear this hurdle by the election, she should be able to dispense of Donald pretty easily they way he's running this campaign.  And, hey, if she's indicted after the election, all the better...we get her running mate as president, and that's best case scenario.
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I absolutely hope that there really is nothing here.  It is too late for "we the people" to learn otherwise.  But I'd still want to know as much about what actually happened either way.  I keep getting accused of being on Hillary's defense team (opposite Saints the lead prosecutor) but I really am just a juror trying to figure it out.  Granted Saints would have used a preemptive challenge to kick me off a real jury, not to mention considering information "not in testimony"  (or whatever the legal term is).

 
I wish the Democrats were this excited about the possibility of Sarah Palin being elected VP.  As is, this excitement over Hillary being a woman is just typical partisan bs.   

 
timschochet said:
He hit his 3 best issues: 

1. Trump represents change. 

2. He'll reverse our trade policy. 

3. Hillary represents the corporate establishment. 

This is, IMO, Trump's best chance at a winning election message. If he can stay away from the unforced errors, from his lack of foreign policy knowledge, and focus on this he's got a shot. 
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In other words, he needs a speech writer, he needs a TelePrompter and he needs to layoff Twitter.  If he can do those things he has a shot.  The "off the cuff" stuff worked so far, now he has to turn into a professional.

 
Jackstraw said:
Keep it up. First woman nominee in the history of the country. No seriously keep talking. Best thing you can do with conservatives. Keep them talking. 
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Keep what up?  Saying that she's the worst possible woman to nominate?  Hey - I'm just pointing out what EVERYONE already knows.  You have a extremely sizable portion of Democrats that feel the same way.

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
I absolutely hope that there really is nothing here.  It is too late for "we the people" to learn otherwise.  But I'd still want to know as much about what actually happened either way.  I keep getting accused of being on Hillary's defense team (opposite Saints the lead prosecutor) but I really am just a juror trying to figure it out.  Granted Saints would have used a preemptive challenge to kick me off a real jury, not to mention considering information "not in testimony"  (or whatever the legal term is).
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Objectively, I want to know, as well.  I just wish we had this resolved earlier because either (a) we could have had full disclosure that she's a crook and inserted a stronger candidate or (b) we could have dispensed of this cloud and rallied full support behind her over a tyrant on the other side

 
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Willie Neslon said:
One look at your posting history and it's obvious.  Nobody really cares if you use an alias but when you stealthily use it to back up the views of your other username, that's kind of pathetic.  Save your breath, it's already been verified.
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I have now been accused of being like 4 different people here now.. I'm sorry I argued with you on the internet, but I am not an alias of a former member.  I have been active (or semi active) in the SP for years now.  Someone accused me of being Squistion, who I know I've argued football with in the SP.  

It's all quite entertaining and also humbling to know you care so much.

 
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