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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (8 Viewers)

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cobalt_27 said:
I suspect Sanders will make nice and suspend his campaign.  I suspect he will continue to express very strong sentiments against Trump.  But, I don't believe he's going to give Hillary much at all, not unless she cedes major concessions to the platform, which won't happen.

in sum, I don't think they will have a contentious relationship so much as they probably won't have much of one at all.
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I think he'll agree to be neutral, but think he views Hillary for what she is: the high water mark in American political corruption.  

 
I will be shocked if Hillary picks Warren as her VP.  Hillary has had her eye on being the first woman President for decades and I can't imagine she would take the chance on her VP pick stealing her gender thunder.  I think she goes with a geography or race pick and that is the smart move.  

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
I will be shocked if Hillary picks Warren as her VP.  Hillary has had her eye on being the first woman President for decades and I can't imagine she would take the chance on her VP pick stealing her gender thunder.  I think she goes with a geography or race pick and that is the smart move.  
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Booker - he's a pretty good speaker and would be effective.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
I will be shocked if Hillary picks Warren as her VP.  Hillary has had her eye on being the first woman President for decades and I can't imagine she would take the chance on her VP pick stealing her gender thunder.  I think she goes with a geography or race pick and that is the smart move.  
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Booker might be a smart pick as that will undoubtedly draw a huge black turnout.  I don't think a latino pick makes much of a difference as they already hate trump and will assuredly turnout big.  

 
dparker713 said:
You really need to crack open a history book.
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Mine says that we just had the most do nothing Congress in our history, and it's because of big money corrupting the system.  Our educational system is in tatters, our nation is in decline and we are sicker each year despite paying 10x on drugs.  Most major city water supplies have trace levels of anti-depressants and other chemicals, we lead the world only in obesity, violence and the only thing crumbling faster than our aging infrastructure is our environment.  

Enter Queen Hillary to do the bidding of the elite that have personally enriched her, and for whom she does back room deals.

Meanwhile in an ever connected world that a grandma who can't work email can't understand, huge pockets of the world in competition philosophically, economically and militarily have woken up and are prepared to dunk on us by working harder, learning better and dominating global resources.  

That's what my history book says.

 
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Mr. Ham said:
Mine says that we just had the most do nothing Congress in our history, and it's because of big money corrupting the system.  Our educational system is in tatters, our nation is in decline and we are sicker each year despite paying 10x on drugs.  Most major city water supplies have trace levels of anti-depressants and other chemicals, we lead the world only in obesity, violence and the only thing crumbling faster than our aging infrastructure is our environment.  

Enter Queen Hillary to do the bidding of the elite that have personally enriched her, and for whom she does back room deals.

Meanwhile in an ever connected world that a grandma who can't work email can't understand, huge pockets of the world in competition philosophically, economically and militarily have woken up and are prepared to dunk on us by working harder, learning better and dominating global resources.  

That's what my history book says.
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If this is what your history books say, this explains so much.

 
Mr. Ham said:
Mine says that we just had the most do nothing Congress in our history, and it's because of big money corrupting the system. Wrong - it's b/c most of the House (both parties) have effectively one party districts, where the biggest threat to their reelection comes from a challenger in the primaries.  This means that most of the House has no reason to compromise with the other party; instead, they pander to their parties ideological wing.  Our educational system is in tatters,It is? our nation is in decline and we are sicker each year despite paying 10x on drugs.   And yet the average life expectancy keeps going up.  Most major city water supplies have trace levels of anti-depressants and other chemicals, we lead the world only in obesity Wrong, violence Wrong and the only thing crumbling faster than our aging infrastructure is our environment. Our environment is doing fine compared to most of the rest of the world. Check out the data on global water and air pollution.  

Enter Queen Hillary to do the bidding of the elite that have personally enriched her, and for whom she does back room deals.

Meanwhile in an ever connected world that a grandma who can't work email can't understand, huge pockets of the world in competition philosophically, economically and militarily have woken up and are prepared to dunk on us by working harder, learning better and dominating global resources.  

That's what my history book says. Google is your friend.  Your history book is not.  
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Life expectancy isn't going up for all groups, and it certainly isnt continually going up anymore. White women generally and working class white people are dropping as recently as this year, and average was dropping a few years ago.

And yes, our education system is currently blowing goats.

 
Quint said:
didn't she sign a second NDA, with language specifically dealing with TS/SCI?

IIRC, there was TS/SCI data in her emails (i.e. on her server). that isn't "retroactively classified," right?
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Right she signed two NDAs, one for classified & one for TS/SCI, so yeah born classified and really she forgot x2 anyway.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
She's the only female Dem Senator to not support Hillary, please.
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And she has both a personal, professional and political relationship with both of them. Please.

And truthfully, she is about the only female Dem Senator whose opinion anyone really cares about.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
She's the only female Dem Senator to not support Hillary, please.
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She did sign a letter encouraging Clinton to run for POTUS however. I don't think it's clear who she was pulling for. Sanders supporters ravaged her on social media in the lead up to the MA primary due to the non endorsement.

 
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Her emails has atomic/nuclear secrets?
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Maybe check the declassification dates if you're in doubt, they're established from the moment something classified is communicated.

Ha, come on she's denying even remembering she signed the NDA. She showed no such compunction with her pal Georgie a few months before, what's changed?

 
timschochet said:
Speaking of Obama's endorsement, I believe it's time for Jon to pay up. 
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I agree. The original bet was that after any candidate clinches the nomination before Obama makes an endorsement. She has won a majority of pledged delegates. A majority. All of the news outlets are saying that it is over. And it is over - Obama said as much yesterday when he congratulated Hillary on being the presumptive nominee.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Hillary doesn't remember signing her NDA...

- Have to laugh thinking of her trying this #### with the FBI. 

Btw Hillary on Fox must mean she's chasing those disaffected Goppers...
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The NDA she signed references Executive Order 12958, which reads:

Sec. 1.4. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

  • (1) the President;
    (2) agency heads and officials designated by the President in the Federal Register; or
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Therefore, if none of the information was classified at the time when Hillary received it and Hillary didn't classify anything herself then none of the emails contained classified information.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Her emails has atomic/nuclear secrets?
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Maybe check the declassification dates if you're in doubt, they're established from the moment something classified is communicated.
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I have no doubts.  You are wrong!  

With a few exceptions what is classified is defined by executive order 13256.  Nothing is "born classified" under that executive order (or the one from the "W" years that governed the first portion of Hillary's term).   And the NDA explicitly states that nothing in the NDA changes this.  Finally, where the "born classified" concept does exist, The Atomic Energy Act it is widely believed to be unconstitutional with the government avoiding the only serous challenge in the Carter years,

 
squistion said:
I agree. The original bet was that after any candidate clinches the nomination before Obama makes an endorsement. She has won a majority of pledged delegates. A majority. It is over and Obama said as much yesterday when he congratulated Hillary on being the presumptive nominee.
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Presumptive <> Clinched

She is definitely the presumptive candidate, but she most definitely has not clinched it.  

 
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