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Reading some news this morning and they were saying in various key battleground areas there around 30% of the voters that call themselves "undecided" 

WTF people :lol:

Are you seriously going to decide this on some ads or one debate where they talk for probably 30 minutes each, most of which is just memorized lines.

These same people are probably the first to complain about how bad the government sucks.
A lot of people don't trust Hillary.  They are looking for an excuse to not vote for her.  Looks like Hillary is doing a great job on this front.

 
So other than insults do you have a point?

He was criticized for not providing medical info. He went on a tv and provided it to a doctor (queue criticism of that) not a journalist. You can move the goalposts all you want, but there literally wouldn't have been anything he could have provided that would have satisfied you or your side.
Imagine Hillary presenting her medical info in a situation where the person was knowledgeable about the subject and had an opportunity to ask questions. 

Yeah, I can't either. 

 
So other than insults do you have a point?

He was criticized for not providing medical info. He went on a tv and provided it to a doctor (queue criticism of that) not a journalist. You can move the goalposts all you want, but there literally wouldn't have been anything he could have provided that would have satisfied you or your side.
Sorry, you claimed Trump was giving the people honesty...a concept which he struggles as much as Hillary does.  And tour example is that he gave vague info on the show if a guy who has a show that isnt the most honest thing out there either?

 
A lot of people don't trust Hillary.  They are looking for an excuse to not vote for her.  Looks like Hillary is doing a great job on this front.
Again how is this not decided already?

Is some ad or donald having people take away his Twitter account and have him read off a teleprompter for or a month going to make them think "yeah I'll roll with this guy" or "that Hillary is such a liar".

Baffling to me.

 
squistion said:
Indeed still waiting for him to answer the question he has been asked three times but has refused to answer:

How did the Obama win over Romney bring us Trump?


squistion said:
Please answer this question you keep avoiding or back to your own Hillary Haters Thread

How did the Obama win bring us Trump?




squistion said:
I don't keep an effing notebook. I just have a better memory than most here, including a philosophy professor.


squistion said:
You look worse for refusing to answer what you meant by this statement, so we can move on (and a joke YouTube clip is not an answer):


squistion said:
No, it wasn't answered. It has never been answered outside of a joke response. That is why I keep asking so we can move on to something else.


squistion said:
Not an answer. Still waiting and if you keep returning to this thread without answering what you meant by that statement, I will keep asking until you do.


squistion said:
Just asking him to answer a simple question, what did he mean by that statement? Not an unreasonable request.


squistion said:
Of course he doesn't.  No one has to answer to any other poster here.

He makes a statement on this forum and refuses to explain what he meant. Does he have that right? Absolutely? And it not unreasonable for me or anyone else to ask for an answer until he does, particularly since he keeps coming into this thread and trashing Hillary.

Deal for HT, stay out of this thread and I won't ask more embarrassing questions in any other thread, such as "Please explain what you meant by that statement".
This is just from 2 page worth of posting on here.

 
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Again how is this not decided already?

Is some ad or donald having people take away his Twitter account and have him read off a teleprompter for or a month going to make them think "yeah I'll roll with this guy" or "that Hillary is such a liar".

Baffling to me.
People who remain undecided will eventually let their gut tell them which one is worse.  Clearing something is not adding up with Hillary.

 
So you're ok with Steve Bannon then...got it
You guys aren't getting it - WE'RE not okay with ANY of it from EITHER candidates.  You guys not only carry Hillary's water, but you go out of your way to make lame, flimsy and pathetic excuses for the same behavior you criticize The Donald for.  All we're asking is that you recognize both candidates suck instead of defending Hillary until the end.  

Both of them long ago crossed that line where the shades or degrees of that behavior don't even matter anymore.

 
You guys aren't getting it - WE'RE not okay with ANY of it from EITHER candidates.  You guys not only carry Hillary's water, but you go out of your way to make lame, flimsy and pathetic excuses for the same behavior you criticize The Donald for.  All we're asking is that you recognize both candidates suck instead of defending Hillary until the end.  

Both of them long ago crossed that line where the shades or degrees of that behavior don't even matter anymore.
Why do you give up everything then expect them to do the same? If you think Trump sucks keep it to yourself until they admit Hillary sucks. The only thing you're doing when you go around saying you don't like Trump is helping Hillary get elected.

 
You guys aren't getting it - WE'RE not okay with ANY of it from EITHER candidates.  You guys not only carry Hillary's water, but you go out of your way to make lame, flimsy and pathetic excuses for the same behavior you criticize The Donald for.  All we're asking is that you recognize both candidates suck instead of defending Hillary until the end.  

Both of them long ago crossed that line where the shades or degrees of that behavior don't even matter anymore.
So having the leader of a racist, alt-right news website as your campaign manager is flimsy...got it

 
You guys aren't getting it - WE'RE not okay with ANY of it from EITHER candidates.  You guys not only carry Hillary's water, but you go out of your way to make lame, flimsy and pathetic excuses for the same behavior you criticize The Donald for.  All we're asking is that you recognize both candidates suck instead of defending Hillary until the end.  

Both of them long ago crossed that line where the shades or degrees of that behavior don't even matter anymore.
Degrees of behavior DO matter.  Hillary is obsessed with becoming President and does a lot of things that are shady to get there.  She's also very concerned that people are out to get her and it leads to her making stupid decisions like her email server.  I think she sucks in the sense that she's unlikable due to her shady behavior, but can overlook it because I think she wants to accomplish the things in the Democratic Platform. 

 
So you assume they won't vote for Hillary?
No. 

The whole point is who the is hell is undecided?

If you are waiting to vote on your gut well I don't really know what to say at this point other than WTH. Outside of one of these two murdering someone in the next month I don't see how you aren't decided.

 
People who remain undecided will eventually let their gut tell them which one is worse.  Clearing something is not adding up with Hillary.
One candidate lies occasionally and tries to cover it up and the other lies all the time and pretends that he's not lying.  Due to the way many people think the first one is more difficult to trust.

 
Florina campaigned on this number last year.  When it was fact-checked, the conclusion drawn was Florina was obfuscating the term "Foundation".  

A lot of Foundations started by individuals are pass-through organizations that do a wonderful job efficiently funding other charities but don't do much direct charity work themselves.   The Clinton Foundation is a bit of a misnomer from this perspective because it implements a lot of charity work itself.  So there's the 5-6% the Clinton Foundation sends on to other charities, but there's also the 75-85% the Clinton Foundation uses to implement the Clinton Health Access Initiative, Clinton Development Initiative, etc.  If you treated those implementation arms as their own separate organizations, the Clinton Foundation would grade out at around 80-90% of their budget going to charity depending on the year.  There are leaner charities, but 80% on a "bad" year is pretty damn good for as ambitious as the Clinton Foundation's goals are.  

I'm not going to say the Clinton Foundation is above reproach or that the Clintons themselves don't even indirectly benefit financially from it.  However, in terms of this election, criticizing the Clinton Foundation's efficiency is pretty damn brazen.  I suggest reading this Altantic piece about the Trump Foundation.
Can anything involving the Clinton and money be considered "pretty damn brazen"...read up on Haiti...is that your definition of efficiency?  If it involves the Clintons and it involves cash it is anything goes...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation

 
Maybe you should read what I wrote before you respond next time.  You've completely validated my point.  Thanks! :thumbup:
No I read what you wrote...your advocacy for false equivalence is now a non-starter.  They aren't equal when one pedals in birther racism and employs a hate-monger as his campaign manager.  They just aren't and anyone arguing they are doesn't appreciate the history of racism in this country.

 
IMO the woman that wrote "It takes a village" has dedicated her life to one of service. You're free to believe that guy that wrote (well, not really) the book "The art of the deal" has dedicated his life to one of service. I will respectfully disagree. 
Well....I never said anything about Trump, he certainly isn't an ideal candidate. However, Clinton has had plenty of time in public office to show that "best interest" stuff, haven't seen any action. Again, she will SAY whatever is necessary 

 
No I read what you wrote...your advocacy for false equivalence is now a non-starter.  They aren't equal when one pedals in birther racism and employs a hate-monger as his campaign manager.  They just aren't and anyone arguing they are doesn't appreciate the history of racism in this country.
It's not a false equivalency at all - both or liars and are as corrupt as the day is long.  The fact that you try to parse hairs with "Well, my candidates corruptness is better than yours" as a means for condoning her behavior speaks volumes.  

Both are liars.  Both are corrupt.  At this point, the degrees of both of those don't even matter any more even though you try to convince yourself they do.

 
IMO the woman that wrote "It takes a village" has dedicated her life to one of service. You're free to believe that guy that wrote (well, not really) the book "The art of the deal" has dedicated his life to one of service. I will respectfully disagree. 
List for me 3 things that she's done for the American people...

its a lot easier to list things she's done to enrich her various benefactors 

 
Max, please don't respond to Eligoesdeep/dfsguy anymore. I strongly disagree with many if not most of your political viewpoints, as you probably know. But you are not a troll, and that makes you worth having a discussion with. This is guy IS a troll, and his contribution is worthless.

 
Max, please don't respond to Eligoesdeep/dfsguy anymore. I strongly disagree with many if not most of your political viewpoints, as you probably know. But you are not a troll, and that makes you worth having a discussion with. This is guy IS a troll, and his contribution is worthless.
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squistion will engage in discussion, defend his point of view, partake in reasonable debate. Unlike some of you, I really enjoy his posting tweets; it provides me a good idea of what a lot of people are thinking.

There are some things that squistion does that I would never do (and I'm sure he thinks the same about me.) But he's not a troll.

 
squistion will engage in discussion, defend his point of view, partake in reasonable debate. Unlike some of you, I really enjoy his posting tweets; it provides me a good idea of what a lot of people are thinking.

There are some things that squistion does that I would never do (and I'm sure he thinks the same about me.) But he's not a troll.
Wrong again, Tim.

 
I'll take some info as well. Pepe the frog? One of those things where I said f it I just don't give a #### and didn't even bother to see what's up with it.
It was this funny meme that the geniuses on the alt-right and other racists took up as a wink-wink-nod-nod symbol for their movement.  

 
It was this funny meme that the geniuses on the alt-right and other racists took up as a wink-wink-nod-nod symbol for their movement.  
Seriously - do you check in daily to get your keywords from the DNC?  Never saw this term before until your liberal masters started using it a couple weeks ago and now YOU are using it in just about every post.

I get that as a member of the American left EVERYONE is a racist that doesn't vote Democrat which is why you're also using that term like a pronoun.  The DNC staffer emails exposed a lot of racism within the Democratic Party, however.

 
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