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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (16 Viewers)

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Mr. Ham said:
I don't know is the logistics of the event.  I don't think there were hundreds involved or the press Corp.  I saw press Corp photos and videos before and after the rally.  

What I do know is that those videos appear to be doctored and heavily CGI'ed. I don't know who shot them or when.

But video is a subject I know well.  I have never seen a live stream deinterlace in the foreground like that, and an object supposedly behind a person cannot be visible with perfect fidelity without compositing.  Notice the perfectly straight lines.

All I can speak to is what I can observe and draw a fact based conclusion about.

Amongst those is the fact that a 2D image doesn't disappear with parallax.

Most of what went on is a mystery to me.  I can only speak to the authenticity of the video.  It's not.
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Maybe it's alien technology.   :lmao:  Bill looked into Area 51 when he was POTUS.

 
squistion said:
Yeah, Donald is playing chess while Hillary is playing checkers. :lol:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/hillary-trump-debate-gennifer-flowers/26096/

Hillary Clinton just baited Donald Trump into sabotaging his debate chances with Gennifer Flowers

“If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row,” Donald Trump tweeted just two days before his first debate with Hillary Clinton, “perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!” And with that, Trump officially took the bait that Hillary had been dangling in front of him. Whether or not he actually hunts down Flowers, with whom Bill Clinton once had an affair, Trump has essentially already lost the debate by going there.

Clinton decided to not only put billionaire pro basketball team owner Mark Cuban in the front row of the debate, but to announce it in advance. If she had been hoping Trump would be rattled at the surprise sight of Cuban, she’d have kept it a secret. But when her camp announced it in advance, it seemed to be in the clear hope that Trump would take the bait by either saying something inappropriate in response or by putting someone inappropriate in the front row just to win the proverbial pissing contest.

But Hillary hit the jackpot when Trump publicly threatened to put a former Bill Clinton mistress in the front row of the debate. Sure, his base will love him for it. But no one wins a national election with just their base. And Trump’s decision to invoke Gennifer Flowers will play terribly with the moderate undecided voters who will decide this election, because they’re looking for someone who seems presidential – and taunting a female opponent with her husband’s former mistress looks decidedly un-presidential.
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I don't understand why Hillary is getting into this pro wrestling schtick with Trump.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I don't understand why Hillary is getting into this pro wrestling schtick with Trump.
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Hillary stated a couple months ago that Trump could be easily baited and not only did he take the bait, he jumped on the deck of the boat with a fish in his mouth. If his advisors have any influence on him at all, they will talk him out of having Flowers front-row-and-center to mock Hillary over Bill's infidelities. But I am pretty sure he thinks this is a deft move that will shame Hillary and somehow win over women voters. If so, aterrible miscalculation on his part. She is playing him like a $5 banjo.

 
squistion said:
Yeah, Donald is playing chess while Hillary is playing checkers. :lol:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/hillary-trump-debate-gennifer-flowers/26096/

Hillary Clinton just baited Donald Trump into sabotaging his debate chances with Gennifer Flowers

“If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row,” Donald Trump tweeted just two days before his first debate with Hillary Clinton, “perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!” And with that, Trump officially took the bait that Hillary had been dangling in front of him. Whether or not he actually hunts down Flowers, with whom Bill Clinton once had an affair, Trump has essentially already lost the debate by going there.

Clinton decided to not only put billionaire pro basketball team owner Mark Cuban in the front row of the debate, but to announce it in advance. If she had been hoping Trump would be rattled at the surprise sight of Cuban, she’d have kept it a secret. But when her camp announced it in advance, it seemed to be in the clear hope that Trump would take the bait by either saying something inappropriate in response or by putting someone inappropriate in the front row just to win the proverbial pissing contest.

But Hillary hit the jackpot when Trump publicly threatened to put a former Bill Clinton mistress in the front row of the debate. Sure, his base will love him for it. But no one wins a national election with just their base. And Trump’s decision to invoke Gennifer Flowers will play terribly with the moderate undecided voters who will decide this election, because they’re looking for someone who seems presidential – and taunting a female opponent with her husband’s former mistress looks decidedly un-presidential.
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Anyone who thinks putting Gennifed Flowers in the front row is going to turn more people off than it drops jaws with a smile isn't in tune with where this country has gone.  And I'm not saying that's a good thing.  But Flowers in the front row will dominate the water cooler and for as many who say how base it was, more will say it was great.  And making America great again is really the point here.

 
Mr. Ham said:
Anyone who thinks putting Gennifed Flowers in the front row is going to turn more people off than it drops jaws with a smile isn't in tune with where this country has gone.  And I'm not saying that's a good thing.  But Flowers in the front row will dominate the water cooler and for as many who say how base it was, more will say it was great.  And making America great again is really the point here.
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Having a ex-mistress of Bill's from over 25 years ago in the front row of the debate is making America great again? :lol:

 
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squistion said:
Having a ex-mistress of Bill's from over 25 years ago in the front row of the debate is making America great again? :lol:
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I don't want Trump to win.  I don't revile him.  I just have never seen him as a serious candidate and can't understand those who do.  But most of America has become spectacle based and the wow factor of sticking boldly to an adversary will play to the peanut gallery.  The idea it will lose points for something as egalitarian as not looking presidential is an archaic concept.

 
squistion said:
Hillary stated a couple months ago that Trump could be easily baited and not only did he take the bait, he jumped on the deck of the boat with a fish in his mouth. If his advisors have any influence on him at all, they will talk him out of having Flowers front-row-and-center to mock Hillary over Bill's infidelities. But I am pretty sure he thinks this is a deft move that will shame Hillary and somehow win over women voters. If so, aterrible miscalculation on his part. She is playing him like a $5 banjo.
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I have no problem with Trump showing respect to a woman by putting her in a front row seat.

 
squistion said:
Hillary stated a couple months ago that Trump could be easily baited and not only did he take the bait, he jumped on the deck of the boat with a fish in his mouth. If his advisors have any influence on him at all, they will talk him out of having Flowers front-row-and-center to mock Hillary over Bill's infidelities. But I am pretty sure he thinks this is a deft move that will shame Hillary and somehow win over women voters. If so, aterrible miscalculation on his part. She is playing him like a $5 banjo.
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IMO this is already taking the debate into the realm of unseriousness where he wants it to be.

 
so this week Hillary got endorsed from former republican president George W. Bush, the New York Times, top business leaders, and the Cincinnati Enquirer.

Meanwhile Trump got Jennifer Flowers.

ETA: Cruz, sorry. i forgot about him

 
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Trump is going to be more thrown off by Cuban smirking in the front row than cold, hard ##### Hillary will be by Flowers.

 
cstu said:
Trump is going to be more thrown off by Cuban smirking in the front row than cold, hard ##### Hillary will be by Flowers.
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every hours this election gets crazier. why not add cheerleaders, and WWE entrances to the debate? 

 
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cstu said:
Trump is going to be more thrown off by Cuban smirking in the front row than cold, hard ##### Hillary will be by Flowers.
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If Cliton were thrown off by a bimbo who sucked Bill off, she couldn't walk though down a street in Mahanttan, an avenue in Little Rock or a [thing that would get me banned].

 
[scooter] said:
Of course he may have invited her. And Mark Cuban may be lying about his invitation. And Trump's hair may be a weave. And monkeys may be flying out of my butt.
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All statements except the last one may be true (although my hair stylist doesn't believe Trump has a weave).

 
Super excited to see how Mrs. Bimbo Dicker does in the debate. 

Her husband has been dicking bimbos longer than her political career. Neat marriage.

 
squistion said:
It worked and he reacted in the worst way possible.
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It was a dumb move on Hillary's part.  Why play Trump's game even if she thinks she will win it? Her goal on Monday should be to have the debate be focused on the issues, not turn into a clown show. There is no doubt she has a much better handle on the issues. Perhaps she feels a clown show will expose Trump but seems risky to get down to his level, it didn't work out too well for Rubio.

 
Maybe Gennifer will be there simply to try to remind us that Hillary could care less about women and was nothing but an enabler for her husband and she trashed anyone who her husband abused simply to protect her meal ticket at the time.  Maybe it is just payback for videos like this.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
It was a dumb move on Hillary's part.  Why play Trump's game even if she thinks she will win it? Her goal on Monday should be to have the debate be focused on the issues, not turn into a clown show. There is no doubt she has a much better handle on the issues. Perhaps she feels a clown show will expose Trump but seems risky to get down to his level, it didn't work out too well for Rubio.
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I agree with this.  This is kind of hard to wrap one's mind around, but Trump supporters just don't care that he's a clown.  The stunt with Gennifer Flowers doesn't weaken him at all -- this is no less clownish than countless other inanities that would have finished off a normal candidate many times over.  Trump seems sort of immune to the stigma that comes along with stuff like this because that's just who he is.  The guy takes ownership of being a clown.

Another way to put it is that anybody who cares about whether Trump is a clown probably crossed him off their list a year ago.

As usual, Hillary has a hard time getting out of her own way.  Theoretically, she's the adult in the room.  So of course she can't help herself but to undermine that narrative with about six weeks left to go.  

 
Rich Conway said:
All of a sudden this is your bar?  If so, we may as well just Hillary in jail for life.
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Except there is actually evidence that Hillary has committed numerous crimes.  The latest excuse for not punishing her is 'no one has ever been convicted of doing that before.'   

 
jon_mx said:
You do realize it was you who offered it up as evidence?  
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No I didn't. I stated that he may have invited her (see a few posts up) although Trump campaign now says that she was not "formally invited" - whatever that means (perhaps an informal invitation has been extended).

 
squistion said:
No I didn't. I stated that he may have invited her (see a few posts up) although Trump campaign now says that she was not "formally invited" - whatever that means (perhaps an informal invitation has been extended).
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Good night.  Someone said there was no evidence of that (which you quoted) at which time you stated, "I am not so sure of that" and provided that tweet.  You try to play these stupid games of semantics, then you backtrack, then you don't admit your error.  You make a perfect Hillary supporter.  This after you attack my intelligence because you failed to understand my statement.  Never once admitting your error.  You have issues.  

 
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jon_mx said:
Except there is actually evidence that Hillary has committed numerous crimes.  The latest excuse for not punishing her is 'no one has ever been convicted of doing that before.'   
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That's been my argument all along but due to her high-level position and unique quality of the crime she is not going to be prosecuted. 

People get away with crimes all the time - case in point is Trump, who committed fraud against average Americans with his Trump 'University'.  That's far worse on a moral level than building a server with poor security.

 
I'm as anti-Hillary as it comes but think she'll mop the floor with Trump because you can't go 90 minutes avoiding substance and that's where she'll keep taking things back.  This should be a blowout and the Trump nightmare behind us by Tuesday.  This is actually what I'm routing for; although I want him to leave as many claw marks as possible for the coming impeachment--which will come after the last of the documents are public and the Reddit smoking gun is cross-referenced with the timeline.  There will be a special prosecutor and since Hillary's staff ordered the destruction of evidence it will lead to a Watergate scale controversy that I hope she doesn't survive.

So thanks for that, Hillary supporter and I look forward to 1,000 more pages of denials that she did any of this and blame to anyone and everyone else but Hillary.

All that said, if Hillary can't take sheer control and lead a blowout debate, I'd seriously question her competence.  This is is an NFL team (although the worst in the league) playing a D2 that's won out solely on razzle dazzle and trick plays.  

 
jon_mx said:
:kicksrock:  
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So, what was that like?

"Hillary, you cannot invite Mark Cuban." 

"Donald, you cannot invite Gennifer Flowers, Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Sandra Allen James, Eileen Wellstone, Christy Zercher, Carolyn Moffet, Helen Dowdy, Becky Brown, Regina Blakely Hopper, Monica Lewinsky, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Connie Hamzy, Dolly Kyle Browning, Sally Miller (Sally Perdue), or Lencola Sullivan."

 
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